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Time to increase the refining of Dilithium 8000 per day cap
lobstercat
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I think it is about time the refining of Dilithium 8000 per day cap is increased.
Over the years the ways of grinding Dilithium has increased and it far outstrips the refining. You can grind far more dilithium than you can refine it. We have the Admiralty, doff tasks and special events etc all giving a good quantity of dilithium.
On one of my toons I have 4,000,000 unrefined dilithium which will take 500 days to refine. I average 9-10,000 per day in grinding and some days in Admiralty I can get 100K.
The ability to refine it has not kept up with the way to grind it.
It is time to change the daily cap for refining.
Over the years the ways of grinding Dilithium has increased and it far outstrips the refining. You can grind far more dilithium than you can refine it. We have the Admiralty, doff tasks and special events etc all giving a good quantity of dilithium.
On one of my toons I have 4,000,000 unrefined dilithium which will take 500 days to refine. I average 9-10,000 per day in grinding and some days in Admiralty I can get 100K.
The ability to refine it has not kept up with the way to grind it.
It is time to change the daily cap for refining.
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Create a new toon and give that toon some of the spare Dil....there's your Dil Cap raised without any reprogramming.
As for your problem, you can refine 8k dilithium per toon per day and transfer that between toons. I have 28 toons that could refine dilithium if I chose to, which means I can rake in 224k dilithium per day if I went hog ham. however I don't always do this. in a week's time I could rake in 1,568,000 dilithium if I refined all 28 toons per day. quite frankly your dilithium generation ability at the moment is only limited by number of toons you have, and how many toons you're willing to grind out. believe me when I say the last thing you want is for them to raise the refinement limit, just look at Neverwinter as a prime example.
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Too true. Right now the prices for Neverwinter are about 750 Astral Diamonds (their version of Dillithium) per Zen while there are some items that cost 15 million Astral Diamonds. The only reason why Astral Diamonds are at 750 is due to it being the cap.
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Yeah, no, LOL. You can't transfer unrefined Dilithium between toons.
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you can't but you can spread your play time between toons, so you can refine more than 8k per account. that 8k limit is per toon.
Building more 'pylons' is the usual way to do it, yes. But 'Create a new toon and give that toon some of the spare Dil' is certainly NOT going to accomplish anything, cap/yield-wise, was my point. Parallelism is the only way to go.
Oops...you're right... lol. But as mentioned, they could spread their activities.
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Fleet Holdings were once great sinks. But all the major fleets are now finished with their holdings. Upgrades and rerolling mods isn't having much of an effect.
Rather than answer with a higher refine cap and not change anything else (resulting in nothing more than higher conversion rates of DL>Zen), we need another sink that is actually WORTH something. Something people are willing to put something into.
the willing part is the problem, I'm not sure cryptic can make anything people will not find some problem with and deciding cryptic is somehow trying to "steal" their dil.
I mean I would say a new fleet holding but I don't think that'll work after the colony holding apparently being bad.
the only other things I can think of are personal holding/housing but cryptic just not willing to do it, or adding/modify boff traits. but the price they would feel the need to do it at to make a dent in the exchange, would probably end up out of reach of most players and high enough the players who can would decide it's too high therefore not "worth" it.
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Of course, I've also never been a super grinder. If I only had 1-2 characters, I still wouldn't go over cap - I don't do thing like a bunch of TFOs a day. /shrug
Better hope the cap never raises because it would only lead to runaway inflation.
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Cause even if it isn't in the FCT yet, it should be in there. There are few, if any, new arguments to be brought into the discussion.
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To be honest he really should consider the LTS and the Fleet Dil Mine refining assignment. But to increase the base cap by 25% is going to push the Dil-Ex to 500 in a matter of hours if this change happened. This won't benefit the players one bit either, because they'll beg for a higher cap with-in months stating 'they've done it before so why not now'.
Going to strongly disagree with this for a few very big reasons. First off it doesn't address the actual problem which is an overabundance of dilithium supply in the market with nothing to keep excess dilithium out of the game. demand has largely stayed the same, but the supply hasn't. phoenix packs being permanent have helped by giving something folks can invest in full time, however that's not enough on its own. There needs to be another meaningful way to remove excess, and that doesn't exist. Currently the amount of dilithium is only limited by the number of toons a person is willing to run. I have the ability to generate 224k per day, however I typically don't run the full 28 toons. The point however is that I can. If I am able to run more toons and play more than someone else, why should I not be allowed to have more dilithium than they do? For people like me a limit like the one you named is actually a huge nerf. Overall it doesn't address the actual problem which is overabundant supply of dilithium
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Hence why I mentioned needing a meaningful sink people are willing to use earlier in the thread.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Its not the CAP its the refining.
How about then that the unrefined dilithium is able to be transferred to you account other toons to share the load?
That will also increase the dil over-supply and loss of value.
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Meaningful being the operative word. And by that, I mean no dumb 1 mil+ Dilithium MACO umiforms that are qualitatively hardly better than the rest (and are basically just the 'monocles' of STO), but something useful. My Dilithium is on player housing.