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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    A T6 Olympic with the correct skin would be very nice as well as a T6 Saber
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      "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      We've had ship classes renamed in the past too. BEFORE we had Fleet quality ships, we had the Advanced Escort (Prometheus) and the Fleet Escort. Then the Fleet Starbase came out with Fleet quality ships. The Fleet Escort got renamed to Patrol Escort to not confuse players, and also to not have a Fleet Fleet Escort.

      Another example of a rename is the old Avenger class Star Cruiser being renamed to Sentinel because of the release of the Avenger Battlecruiser.
      The most recent class renaming was in ViL. The Crossfield class was called the "Science Vanguard" then got changed in ViL to "Science Spearhead".
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    • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,942 Arc User
      still waiting patiently for a K'Vort battlecruiser
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      I don't see a K'Vort honestly. Its literally just an upscared B'rel. Kind of a waste of time to just copy/paste the model and upscale it.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      I don't see a K'Vort honestly. Its literally just an upscared B'rel. Kind of a waste of time to just copy/paste the model and upscale it.
      And yet... it's canon.
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    • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
      still waiting patiently for a K'Vort battlecruiser

      How to get a K'vort:
      1. Get a B'rel
      2. Zoom in really close
      3. Enjoy your new K'vort
    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      And yet... it's canon.

      I don't deny that its canon. I just honestly don't see them spending any money or development time on the K'Vort. Not only that... its a Bird of Prey Battlecruiser. How do you work that stat wise? Heavy tac and Universal seating on a battlecruiser? Kinda OP. And then there might be the occasional code issue with two different ships using the same model but one with wings that don't animate. While we do have different ships that share models (T5 vs T6), I don't know of any where one animates and the other doesn't. With how spegetti like the code is... it might muck up something with the B'rel, and vice versa.

      Now if they could alter the model to make it look more cruiser like... I'd be all for it. But the fact that it is literally a 1:1 copy of the B'rel other than size and locked wings... seems a bit tricky to me.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      I don't see a K'Vort honestly. Its literally just an upscared B'rel. Kind of a waste of time to just copy/paste the model and upscale it.

      Sounds like easy money for Cryptic if that's all they have to do.
    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      Sounds like easy money for Cryptic if that's all they have to do.

      Its not that simple though. Bigger model means new textures to fit the size. The smaller textures would show they don't fit.
      Then we have stats and consoles and BOffs...
      In short... just a straight copy/paste would make a very OP battlecruiser.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
      colored text = mod mode
    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      Enh it could happen. :p Actually it doesn't need to keep the full universal seating. I'm sure it'd have some though.
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    • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
      Ha'nom, Ha'Feh, Nova, Hegh'ta, Ch'Tang/Kitang, HoHsus, Norgh/Ning'tao, Voquv, Kar'fi, Kamarag, Suqob, Puyjaq. I'd like to see all of these get brought up to T6.
    • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
      I was watching The Orville again, last night. What a delight, in terms of ship designs! (Both Union and alien). All *we* seem to get these days, are 'just another saucer' ships. Make something imaginative, Cryptic!
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      Starfleet ship design revolves around the saucer design in some form or another, dating back to the original Connie.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
      colored text = mod mode
    • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Starfleet ship design revolves around the saucer design in some form or another, dating back to the original Connie.


      I know. But as a fave Captain of mine once said about his own boat, "Try and see past what she is, and onto what she can be." :)
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    • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
      meimeitoo wrote: »
      I was watching The Orville again, last night. What a delight, in terms of ship designs! (Both Union and alien). All *we* seem to get these days, are 'just another saucer' ships. Make something imaginative, Cryptic!
      Really? Because the Orville looks like it was designed by eldritch abominations using the sort of geometry that drive men mad to me.
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    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
      colored text = mod mode
    • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
      I'd like to see a modified Intrepid class ship that's configured like a destroyer, rather than science ship. Same for the Akira, set up as a destroyer rather than a carrier.
    • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
      reyan01 wrote: »
      I'd like to see a modified Intrepid class ship that's configured like a destroyer, rather than science ship. Same for the Akira, set up as a destroyer rather than a carrier.
      To be honest, what you describe is a Scout ship - much like this: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Lukari_Dranuur_Scout_Ship

      I think that profile would suit the Nova class better (not that it's going to happen - just saying).

      Oh, I know other ships are available that fit that functionality. I just like the Intrepid and Akira class ships and wish I could use them.

      What I really wish is that the ship tailor were much more build-a-ship. You pay for a class, then configure boff seating, console layout, and such as you want. Shield modifiers, weapon configuration (5/2 or 3, 3/3, 4/4), hull, turn rate, etc. are tied to class. Also, provide TAC/SCI/ENG variants like they have for Odyssey. So you get a shell that you customize.
    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      Bad idea. VERY bad idea. We'd have even WORSE power creep from player made setups in that system than we have now.
      We'd have DPS numbers that make the highest ones we get now look like a T1 ship!

      In short... you give players the ability to customize every aspect of a ship... you will have GOD ships in two seconds. And you can bury the rotting corpse of PvP even farther down because unless you too have a God Ship, you're nothing more than a target that vaporizes the milisecond someone looks at you rather than the second they look at you now. And STFs? Can you say 10 second Infected run?
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
      colored text = mod mode
    • wideningxgyrewideningxgyre Member Posts: 710 Arc User
      rattler2 wrote: »
      Bad idea. VERY bad idea. We'd have even WORSE power creep from player made setups in that system than we have now.
      We'd have DPS numbers that make the highest ones we get now look like a T1 ship!

      In short... you give players the ability to customize every aspect of a ship... you will have GOD ships in two seconds. And you can bury the rotting corpse of PvP even farther down because unless you too have a God Ship, you're nothing more than a target that vaporizes the milisecond someone looks at you rather than the second they look at you now. And STFs? Can you say 10 second Infected run?

      Well, I wasn't suggesting a free for all. Of course, there would have to be limits on the what you could do. But, there isn't any reason why one could not have a ship that looks like an Intrepid that had the same setup as say the T6 Breen Chel Boalg ship. Or a ship that looks like the Nova, but has the same setup as the T6 Verne Temporal Science ship.
    • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,687 Community Moderator
      Or a T1 Connie with the setup of a Vengeance.

      It would greatly cut into their profits, which in turn would affect the quality and quantity of new content.

      Its a double edged sword in all honesty.
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      I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
      The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
      normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
      colored text = mod mode
    • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,942 Arc User
      reyan01 wrote: »
      I'd like to see a modified Intrepid class ship that's configured like a destroyer, rather than science ship. Same for the Akira, set up as a destroyer rather than a carrier.
      To be honest, what you describe is a Scout ship - much like this: https://sto.gamepedia.com/Lukari_Dranuur_Scout_Ship

      I think that profile would suit the Nova class better (not that it's going to happen - just saying).

      Oh, I know other ships are available that fit that functionality. I just like the Intrepid and Akira class ships and wish I could use them.

      What I really wish is that the ship tailor were much more build-a-ship. You pay for a class, then configure boff seating, console layout, and such as you want. Shield modifiers, weapon configuration (5/2 or 3, 3/3, 4/4), hull, turn rate, etc. are tied to class. Also, provide TAC/SCI/ENG variants like they have for Odyssey. So you get a shell that you customize.

      it would be the end of the game. why buy any other ship if you can configure your Defiant as a science escort from hell?
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