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  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    Nope. Nope. Nope.

    I'm sorry, but step between stars makes me have nightmares about that ship. Especially now with the level 65 scaling.

    lol, oh boy yep. :(
    Heh, yeah, that ship got the worst marketing mission. The only painless way to beat that mission is basically just to cloak and go AFK, because there's jack all you can do in that fight and it amounts to watching the NPCs carry you. IF they don't ALSO decide to go AFK themselves!

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    It wasn't THAT bad the first time, though as I mentioned above I haven't played it since they increased the level cap. I can accept that it stinks now but at the time I found it quite enjoyable.
    ~Shia~

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    S'aana ir'Virinat t'Charvon, Lvl 65, Rom Eng
    T'Lyra, LvL 65, Fed, Vul Sci
    Ta'el, Lvl 63, Rom Tac
    Sukima, Lvl 65, Fed Vul Sci

    House Miliskeera in exile (NW)
    Sereska Miliskeera, Lvl 70 OP - Devotion (Just.)/Protection (Just.)
    Shizlee Miliskeera, Lvl 70 DC - Divine Oracle (Right.)/Anointed Champion (Faith.)
    Finithey Miliskeera, Lvl 70 HR - Stormwarden (Combat)/Pathfinder (Trapper)
    Maya Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 CW - Spellstorm
    Irae Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 TR - Master Inflitrator
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    all i know is that the stats look freaking AMAZING. a sci oriented Cdr Tac ship with Lcdr Sci AND a lcdr uni slot??
    ihave to check to see if i have an engineer with intel abilities
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  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    > @majorcharvenak said:
    More on topic, I don't really mind the Romulans getting less ships now. I never thought it was fair that they could use their ally faction's endgame ships but the rest of us couldn't use theirs, and this seems a bit more of a balanced move. I do feel a bit bad for people who actually do like Warbirds and prefer them to other ships, but I believe the Romulans should either have access to their allied ships and give up their own ships to everyone else, or only have their own ships, with no access to their allies'. There's already too much the Romulans keep over the other factions (SRO, Singularities, unique items, maps, etc), and I'm happy that they finally get to see the first semblance of actual fairness (Not really though, they still have access to all of our stuff without giving up any of theirs,sand they literally get the same stuff as everyone else here so...)

    I get that people like having Romulan ships, some of them do like nice, but they can't keep getting special treatment.

    My Romulan will always be in a Warbird, the only real thing having access to Fed ships gives me is the Admiralty cards. And Romulans were woefully bad in Admiralty, especially with Science, compared to my Fed toons.

    My Romulans always fly their warbirds with some exceptions for either RP or availability purposes (Lack of Rom Sci vessels at Tiers I thru IV). My intention wrt T6 fed or KDF usage is to pick up ships I normally wouldn't buy for my Fed and KDF toons if there wasn't Romulan ship included in the bundle. Now that my mains (all Rom) have also have access to T6 Fed and KDF ships, my lessers (Fed and KDF) can now reap the benefits. B)
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    Ta'el, Lvl 63, Rom Tac
    Sukima, Lvl 65, Fed Vul Sci

    House Miliskeera in exile (NW)
    Sereska Miliskeera, Lvl 70 OP - Devotion (Just.)/Protection (Just.)
    Shizlee Miliskeera, Lvl 70 DC - Divine Oracle (Right.)/Anointed Champion (Faith.)
    Finithey Miliskeera, Lvl 70 HR - Stormwarden (Combat)/Pathfinder (Trapper)
    Maya Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 CW - Spellstorm
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,825 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    (Flaming/Trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
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  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    nixie50 wrote: »
    all i know is that the stats look freaking AMAZING. a sci oriented Cdr Tac ship with Lcdr Sci AND a lcdr uni slot??
    This Nixie of yours only goes up to 9. Where's the rest of the 10 through 50?

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  • majorcharvenakmajorcharvenak Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    ruinthefun wrote: »
    It wasn't THAT bad the first time, though as I mentioned above I haven't played it since they increased the level cap.
    No, it was pretty awful the first time around, too. If you actually knew how to make a functional ship, just trying to fly that thing was nails-on-chalkboard bad. Perhaps back then, you didn't.

    Lets just agree to disagree on that point and move on. As I said, I don't care if they make a T6 version of Dysons and with regards to any other romulan ships, I'm used to waiting forever for ones I want to come out. This is no different.
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    Shiarrael e'Tal'Aura t'Charvon, LvL 65, Rom Sci
    S'aana ir'Virinat t'Charvon, Lvl 65, Rom Eng
    T'Lyra, LvL 65, Fed, Vul Sci
    Ta'el, Lvl 63, Rom Tac
    Sukima, Lvl 65, Fed Vul Sci

    House Miliskeera in exile (NW)
    Sereska Miliskeera, Lvl 70 OP - Devotion (Just.)/Protection (Just.)
    Shizlee Miliskeera, Lvl 70 DC - Divine Oracle (Right.)/Anointed Champion (Faith.)
    Finithey Miliskeera, Lvl 70 HR - Stormwarden (Combat)/Pathfinder (Trapper)
    Maya Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 CW - Spellstorm
    Irae Sik-Miliskeera, Lvl 70 TR - Master Inflitrator
  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    I would be fine with them alternating the Kdf, Jem'hadar, and Romulan factions getting ships with the federation. Though i would hope that they would put out at least afew multi-packs that have a variant of the ship for each faction in the year, even seeing a tos era take on it would be interesting.

    I would not mind seeing the Dyson ships come back and updated, as by concept they are not a terrible idea, and actually have alot of potential in them. Though they were implemented quite oddly, and haphazardly.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    a ferengi escort for my new ferengi character

  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    If you want a Ferengi escort then you can try to get a epic token from phoenix boxes and buy a Nandi with one.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    I have already the nandi from the event. this ship is too sci oriented for me. Ihate sci mechanics
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    If they cleaned up that fixed weapon on the Dysons so players could replace it with a weapon of their own choosing at the T6 level that'd go a long way to making them nicer to fly. I loved the look of the Romulan variants.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    nimbull wrote: »
    If they cleaned up that fixed weapon on the Dysons so players could replace it with a weapon of their own choosing at the T6 level that'd go a long way to making them nicer to fly. I loved the look of the Romulan variants.

    Hell... convert that fused weapon into an Experimental.
    Problem is though... its kinda tied into the transformation mechanic of the Dyson.
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nimbull wrote: »
    If they cleaned up that fixed weapon on the Dysons so players could replace it with a weapon of their own choosing at the T6 level that'd go a long way to making them nicer to fly. I loved the look of the Romulan variants.

    Hell... convert that fused weapon into an Experimental.
    Problem is though... its kinda tied into the transformation mechanic of the Dyson.

    That doesn't matter, the transformation mechanic doesn't depend on the weapon type, just the slot being active. Long as something is in there it should in theory work unless they hard coded so bad they'd have to build from the ground up again. You'd think that wouldn't be the case though.
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nimbull wrote: »
    If they cleaned up that fixed weapon on the Dysons so players could replace it with a weapon of their own choosing at the T6 level that'd go a long way to making them nicer to fly. I loved the look of the Romulan variants.

    Hell... convert that fused weapon into an Experimental.
    Problem is though... its kinda tied into the transformation mechanic of the Dyson.

    Well if you had it that the converted fused weapon/experimental weapon slot was deactivated when you changed modes, and maybe something like a secondary deflector slot was activated or versa with the mode change, than that could work quite well for a mode change ship concept.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    nimbull wrote: »
    That doesn't matter, the transformation mechanic doesn't depend on the weapon type, just the slot being active. Long as something is in there it should in theory work unless they hard coded so bad they'd have to build from the ground up again. You'd think that wouldn't be the case though.

    As I'm not a coder... I have no clue.
    asuran14 wrote: »
    Well if you had it that the converted fused weapon/experimental weapon slot was deactivated when you changed modes, and maybe something like a secondary deflector slot was activated or versa with the mode change, than that could work quite well for a mode change ship concept.

    I THINK it partially works like that already. Just switches them as you don't do as much science in Tac Mode, and vice versa.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    1st and foremost, I aaaam > @rattler2 said:
    > nimbull wrote: »
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    > If they cleaned up that fixed weapon on the Dysons so players could replace it with a weapon of their own choosing at the T6 level that'd go a long way to making them nicer to fly. I loved the look of the Romulan variants.
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    > Hell... convert that fused weapon into an Experimental.
    > Problem is though... its kinda tied into the transformation mechanic of the Dyson.

    That is exactly amy thoughs on the matter. Convert it to an experimental and have the transformation alter whether the secondary deflector of experimental weapon is online, while the other is offline.

    Then unbind the damn proton quad cannons, or dual cannons or whatever they are. To balance out the advantage of this transformation restrict what type of weapons the ship can use in that slot to the Proton Cannons, Quad Cannons, Dual Cannons, or Beam Arrays. So it is does not have access to full array of experimental weapons.

    Make the Ltc an intel Hybrid slot.

    The Romulan Dyson ships are so pretty, still good as Sci Ships, have my T5U Harpia. I'd be all over that 3pk.

    I bought the T5 KDF 3pk, and Rom Tactical Dyson ship. But now much prefer the Gorn MMSV for my KDF and Ferasan, and the Nebula for my Fed.

    My T6 Romulan Dyson Ships fixed would be an easy sell to me.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    The fused weapon would be... less bad if it functioned on par with a Mk15 gold weapon
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  • asuran14asuran14 Member Posts: 2,335 Arc User
    Well I think most of the fused weapon slots should be switched over to being experimental weapon slots, like with the tempest patrol escort. Than modify the fused weapons that occupy those slots in question to suit the change, I mean altering the quad-proton cannon into a forward narrow arc experimental weapon type would make for an interesting addition to the experimental weapon line up that fits a escort playstyle and is not another 360 degree arc weapon.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    > @asuran14 said:
    > Well I think most of the fused weapon slots should be switched over to being experimental weapon slots, like with the tempest patrol escort. Than modify the fused weapons that occupy those slots in question to suit the change, I mean altering the quad-proton cannon into a forward narrow arc experimental weapon type would make for an interesting addition to the experimental weapon line up that fits a escort playstyle and is not another 360 degree arc weapon.

    I forgot about the Tempest, but yes I like both these ideas greatly.
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  • disqord#9557 disqord Member Posts: 567 Arc User
    I dunno, I kinda like the weapon being a regular weapon over experimental. I agree that it's really really weak, but I'd prefer if they just buffed it up into working like an epic level gun. I like how it currently works, as I can easily incorporate it into the rest of the weapons on the ship.

    Also, I wouldn't mind if they took a page from the Galor and Allied Pilots and gave us some fancy proton weapons to slot alongside the main special cannons it has. I know there's the protonic polaron from the Dyson reputation, but it's just polaron with a weak proc tacked on. Then there's the "Proton Weapon", but that's kinda weak and you can only use one of them. I doubt a full spread of proton weapons would be too bad, most damage resistances are to all energy damage, and there's no real sources of proton specific damage buffs (Well there are, but none are as strong/as abundant as normal damage type buffs). If not weapons, then they could add some special shield/engine/deflector, like the original having a special secondary deflector, or how many ships have their own fused weapons and such.

    But hey, that's just wishful thinking from one of the 5 fans of the ships...
  • avfp101avfp101 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    I would like to see a mirror universe (T5) Consitution Refit
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
    The Tempest does need a T6 update.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    The Tempest does need a T6 update.

    Yes, it does! :smile:
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    Hell... I'm still one of the few with an unupgraded, VINTAGE Fleet Patrol Escort on one of my alts. As in no tailgun. As long as I don't T5U her, she will not switch.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Hell... I'm still one of the few with an unupgraded, VINTAGE Fleet Patrol Escort on one of my alts. As in no tailgun. As long as I don't T5U her, she will not switch.
    Ah yes, back when it was a freebie ship. :p
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    Actually... it was a full on fleet variant that I have. It used to be known as a Fleet Escort, but then Fleet ships were introduced, and they changed it to Patrol Escort.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Actually... it was a full on fleet variant that I have. It used to be known as a Fleet Escort, but then Fleet ships were introduced, and they changed it to Patrol Escort.
    Yeah, the initial set of fleet ships had fleet variants of the old freebie T5 ships.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,008 Community Moderator
    We've had ship classes renamed in the past too. BEFORE we had Fleet quality ships, we had the Advanced Escort (Prometheus) and the Fleet Escort. Then the Fleet Starbase came out with Fleet quality ships. The Fleet Escort got renamed to Patrol Escort to not confuse players, and also to not have a Fleet Fleet Escort.

    Another example of a rename is the old Avenger class Star Cruiser being renamed to Sentinel because of the release of the Avenger Battlecruiser.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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