Well, regardless of what anyone here thinks of it, Discovery took third place in this Top 10 most wanted shows in the US.
Link?
Star Trek:Discovery has not trended on social media for several weeks. I'm curious to know what methods they used to determine "most wanted" if most people are not talking about it.
Well, if it's Rotten Tomatoes...
Honestly if it's any type of Entertainment Journalism it's methods must be called into question.
The creators behind Star Trek: Discovery have made significant efforts to remake Trek into something "fresh and modern". Ketwolski has an impartial and indepth analysis of the differences in camera shots, editing and even direction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGi8j_slU_E
However, it seems ST:D is moving away from "traditional Trek" and into "generic action". Many viewers and posters have noted similarities between the current season of Star Trek: Discovery and the Terminator movies. The issue is not just concepts and story beats being used; it is also camera shots and editing. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt56W-FSWS8
I recall watching a Red Letter Media episode of Half in the Bag where the hosts, Mike and Jay, comment on how "all Hollywood trailers are cut and edited to be nearly identical in presentation". This kind of laziness and inability to rise above other media is bringing down not only Star Trek: Discovery, but many shows and movies.
The creators behind Star Trek: Discovery have made significant efforts to remake Trek into something "fresh and modern". Ketwolski has an impartial and indepth analysis of the differences in camera shots, editing and even direction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGi8j_slU_E
However, it seems ST:D is moving away from "traditional Trek" and into "generic action". Many viewers and posters have noted similarities between the current season of Star Trek: Discovery and the Terminator movies. The issue is not just concepts and story beats being used; it is also camera shots and editing. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt56W-FSWS8
I recall watching a Red Letter Media episode of Half in the Bag where the hosts, Mike and Jay, comment on how "all Hollywood trailers are cut and edited to be nearly identical in presentation". This kind of laziness and inability to rise above other media is bringing down not only Star Trek: Discovery, but many shows and movies.
Hollywood in general is like this, now....they look at fans as liabilities and go "TRIBBLE 'em!" rather than than respect them.
I remember Mark Hamill talking about this, that they seem to not give a damn about the fans anymore.
A theory that season 3 of Discovery is going to be in the future. It's a really solid arguement and interesting. Makes me look forward to the final episodes even more.
> @reyan01 said: > Read a mildly interesting theory on FB regarding Season 3. > > Again - it was only a theory, but the site that posted it speculated that at least some of S3 could take place in the future, probably via spore drive + time crystal. > > I guess it isn't impossible. Interestingly they didn't make reference to 'Calypso', which is ironic since it would probably support their theory.
Discovery would work so well as being Star Trek: Sliders since the Spore Drive is not limited to their own universe. If the Spore Drive was capable of time travel like it indicated in that Season 1 episode where they returned from the Mirror Universe, then there is no need for a time crystal. Just have Stamets plot a course for the future or a parallel universe and leave the sphere data there. Personally, I think that Discovery didn't return to their original universe, but a parallel universe that is 9 months ahead of their own since there is no indication that the Mycellial Network has anything to do with time travel.
They're not scared to introduce new stuff while still keeping previous canon in mind. That's good.
Some stuff is a little too over-the-top but that's simply the current state of "television". Not everything is for the fans, but that's okay if it doesn't go completely overboard.
At first mention of that red-angel I raised an eye-brow too. However, it turned out to be actually cool. Over-the-top, but fine.
Section-31 is basically the only thing I found to be the wrong choice for a "villain". Sure they would exist by that time, but they would not openly show themselves like that. But well, general audiences might not get it and are used to that "intrigues and conspiracies are everywhere" from other modern shows.
Timeline was never broken. DSC had nothing to fix.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Everything is alright now, because all involved swore a pinky promise to not tell anyone 😂
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Timeline was never broken. DSC had nothing to fix.
So Discovery didn't need to stop Control from grabbing the sphere data to stop a timeline where all or almost all life in the galaxy was destroyed?
Except that timeline was the aberration not DSCs actual timeline.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Discovery would work so well as being Star Trek: Sliders since the Spore Drive is not limited to their own universe. If the Spore Drive was capable of time travel like it indicated in that Season 1 episode where they returned from the Mirror Universe, then there is no need for a time crystal. Just have Stamets plot a course for the future or a parallel universe and leave the sphere data there. Personally, I think that Discovery didn't return to their original universe, but a parallel universe that is 9 months ahead of their own since there is no indication that the Mycellial Network has anything to do with time travel.
There's no indication that a slingshot maneuver around a star has anything to do with time travel either. As for "plotting a course for the future or parallel universe". You need coordinates and data for that. The time jump coming back from the Mirror Universe was accidental. Not intentional. Jumping to the Mirror Universe was intentional on Lorca's part, but it looked like a set of incomplete coordinates.
Discovery would work so well as being Star Trek: Sliders since the Spore Drive is not limited to their own universe. If the Spore Drive was capable of time travel like it indicated in that Season 1 episode where they returned from the Mirror Universe, then there is no need for a time crystal. Just have Stamets plot a course for the future or a parallel universe and leave the sphere data there. Personally, I think that Discovery didn't return to their original universe, but a parallel universe that is 9 months ahead of their own since there is no indication that the Mycellial Network has anything to do with time travel.
There's no indication that a slingshot maneuver around a star has anything to do with time travel either. As for "plotting a course for the future or parallel universe". You need coordinates and data for that. The time jump coming back from the Mirror Universe was accidental. Not intentional. Jumping to the Mirror Universe was intentional on Lorca's part, but it looked like a set of incomplete coordinates.
The whole point of using a Tardigrade or Tardigrade DNA is that Discovery doesn't need coordinates and data to accomplish their jumps. Just intuitively feel out the proper course through the mycellial network.
According to the writer of the episode — award-winning novelist Michael Chabon — the word “V’draysh” is a transmogrification of the word “Federation.” On Instagram last year, Chabon confirmed that “V’draysh” is a syncope of “Federation.”
A. Nothing about Calypo suggested the Federation was evil, so the link is wrong from the get go
B. That has nothing to do with Kurtzman anyways
The Federation assimilates cultures into their own with its benefits and set of rules. So in order for a world that eats their dead as a form of respect to join the Federation, then they have to betray their culture. So the future Federation might not be evil, but there are good reasons to fear the Federation.
Then there is the possibility that the future Federation has become evil for some reason.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
The Federation assimilates cultures into their own with its benefits and set of rules. So in order for a world that eats their dead as a form of respect to join the Federation, then they have to betray their culture. So the future Federation might not be evil, but there are good reasons to fear the Federation.
Then there is the possibility that the future Federation has become evil for some reason.
This is completely untrue.
We have seen as far back as TOS that the Federation allows its member cultures to keep practicing even ritualistic duels to the death(such as the Vulcan's Kal-if-fee ritual), after joining. Same with the Andorians and their Ushaan death-fight ritual.
If a member culture ate their dead as a form of respect, the Federation would allow it so long as it was organized and done so legally by the laws of the culture it stemmed from.
Hell, if the Klingons were to join the Federation they could still keep doing all of their pain stick rituals and, and their challenges to the death as well. The only thing they would have to stop is randomly walking up to someone and stabbing them because they insulted their honor or w/e. The challenge would have to be made officially, and overseen in a standard manner.
The Federation doesn't care.
Exactly. Contrary to what Garak, Quark or Eddington might philosophize, the Federation is not like the Borg, that turns everyone into a Feddie drone. The planets that join retain their unique cultural aspects, even rituals that might be strange or dumb or dangerous to humans.
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Exactly. Contrary to what Garak, Quark or Eddington might philosophize, the Federation is not like the Borg, that turns everyone into a Feddie drone. The planets that join retain their unique cultural aspects, even rituals that might be strange or dumb or dangerous to humans.
It's become popular for a while now though. Around DS9 parts of the fandom (including producers) reinforced the believe that the presumed utopia of Roddenberry was nonsense and "unrealistic" and everything needs to be grey or black. Which they don't realize was already the case, as Turkana IV was a thing during TNGs first "Reddenberry'd" season even. Now that isolationist and nationalist policy became en vogue again it also became more popular to actually vilify the Federation in parts of the fandom methinks.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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How much less?
But there needs to be 2 Kirks or 3 Picards for that joke to work in their case.
However, it seems ST:D is moving away from "traditional Trek" and into "generic action". Many viewers and posters have noted similarities between the current season of Star Trek: Discovery and the Terminator movies. The issue is not just concepts and story beats being used; it is also camera shots and editing. You can see it here:
I recall watching a Red Letter Media episode of Half in the Bag where the hosts, Mike and Jay, comment on how "all Hollywood trailers are cut and edited to be nearly identical in presentation". This kind of laziness and inability to rise above other media is bringing down not only Star Trek: Discovery, but many shows and movies.
Hollywood in general is like this, now....they look at fans as liabilities and go "TRIBBLE 'em!" rather than than respect them.
I remember Mark Hamill talking about this, that they seem to not give a damn about the fans anymore.
A theory that season 3 of Discovery is going to be in the future. It's a really solid arguement and interesting. Makes me look forward to the final episodes even more.
> Read a mildly interesting theory on FB regarding Season 3.
>
> Again - it was only a theory, but the site that posted it speculated that at least some of S3 could take place in the future, probably via spore drive + time crystal.
>
> I guess it isn't impossible. Interestingly they didn't make reference to 'Calypso', which is ironic since it would probably support their theory.
You ninja'd me.
They're not scared to introduce new stuff while still keeping previous canon in mind. That's good.
Some stuff is a little too over-the-top but that's simply the current state of "television". Not everything is for the fans, but that's okay if it doesn't go completely overboard.
At first mention of that red-angel I raised an eye-brow too. However, it turned out to be actually cool. Over-the-top, but fine.
Section-31 is basically the only thing I found to be the wrong choice for a "villain". Sure they would exist by that time, but they would not openly show themselves like that. But well, general audiences might not get it and are used to that "intrigues and conspiracies are everywhere" from other modern shows.
Timeline was never broken. DSC had nothing to fix.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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So Discovery didn't need to stop Control from grabbing the sphere data to stop a timeline where all or almost all life in the galaxy was destroyed?
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That's his idea of everything alright now.
*slow clap*
Sorry, in my opinion, the guy's a bean counter who think he has talent.
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-season-3-32-century-cameos/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0ecnVDZN2-x6ruLRczBdZmVIp2v0jiNMCKyvC0rbMJKtJFXwiXx5zzZ4I
Except that timeline was the aberration not DSCs actual timeline.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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There's no indication that a slingshot maneuver around a star has anything to do with time travel either. As for "plotting a course for the future or parallel universe". You need coordinates and data for that. The time jump coming back from the Mirror Universe was accidental. Not intentional. Jumping to the Mirror Universe was intentional on Lorca's part, but it looked like a set of incomplete coordinates.
The whole point of using a Tardigrade or Tardigrade DNA is that Discovery doesn't need coordinates and data to accomplish their jumps. Just intuitively feel out the proper course through the mycellial network.
https://www.tor.com/2019/05/14/star-trek-discovery-season-3-easter-egg-could-suggest-the-future-federation-is-evil/
Kurtzman on the rampage, again
Me still cheering for Abdin, more so, now. *shakes her pom-poms*
The Federation assimilates cultures into their own with its benefits and set of rules. So in order for a world that eats their dead as a form of respect to join the Federation, then they have to betray their culture. So the future Federation might not be evil, but there are good reasons to fear the Federation.
Then there is the possibility that the future Federation has become evil for some reason.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Exactly. Contrary to what Garak, Quark or Eddington might philosophize, the Federation is not like the Borg, that turns everyone into a Feddie drone. The planets that join retain their unique cultural aspects, even rituals that might be strange or dumb or dangerous to humans.
It's become popular for a while now though. Around DS9 parts of the fandom (including producers) reinforced the believe that the presumed utopia of Roddenberry was nonsense and "unrealistic" and everything needs to be grey or black. Which they don't realize was already the case, as Turkana IV was a thing during TNGs first "Reddenberry'd" season even. Now that isolationist and nationalist policy became en vogue again it also became more popular to actually vilify the Federation in parts of the fandom methinks.
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