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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    vampeiyre wrote: »
    Rare? Yes. But is this something that is actually going to be in demand? I wonder.

    I wonder too, and for the same reasons you do. But it's hard to judge what people will do.

    I for one will ignore them, except for flying my connie up next to one. I already look tiny in ESD orbit, I'll be a like a shuttle compared to one of these.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    It's easy to predict. Promo Ships are always expensive. They will be even more so if you're looking to buy it day 1 or 2, or something like that. That's when you sell it for the highest possible profit when the madness is the strongest.
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  • vampeiyrevampeiyre Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    It's easy to predict. Promo Ships are always expensive. They will be even more so if you're looking to buy it day 1 or 2, or something like that. That's when you sell it for the highest possible profit when the madness is the strongest.

    This much is obvious and not in question.

    I wonder if there is going to be a demand beyond collectors of rarities. I'm not interested personally, but I am curious what "the people" will think of this class of ships.
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  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    I want to get excited about these, but pet AI is still terrible. Depending on how prices go, I might get the Klingon version for my Ferasan.
  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Carriers have their fans so I have no doubt they will be popular. This isn't just a carrier, it's a full temporal ship, partial cruiser, as well.

    Mobility is literally it's only weakness.

    And no it does have a strong tactical focus, that the join of the fleet that backs it up.
  • daeridanii#0793 daeridanii Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    I'm not a huge fan of how the dreadnoughts look, but the Cestus frigate...
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    That thing is gorgeous.
  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    I'm not a huge fan of how the dreadnoughts look, but the Cestus frigate...
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    That thing is gorgeous.

    Right? I hope we're gonna get it as a playable starship soon.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,282 Arc User
    I'm not a huge fan of how the dreadnoughts look, but the Cestus frigate...
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    That thing is gorgeous.

    it looks like a boomerang with pointy things on it​​
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    They are part of the CBGC©® (Comic Book Guy Consortium).
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  • lynce1975lynce1975 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    As much as i like the ships (and the fact they have 2 hangar bays) i loathe how they are introducing them. Would much rather pay directly for them, then the stupid rng. I'm out on this one, can't justify the money for it.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    Would 26th Century Dreadnoughts even fit in The Breach?
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    Would 26th Century Dreadnoughts even fit in The Breach?

    We'll find out tomorrow!
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Well now there is no way I will ever get a Tier IV reward from the Terran Counterattack Phase in the Badlands if these get on there. Bad enough when Scimitars or Vengeances are in there. :)
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    Would 26th Century Dreadnoughts even fit in The Breach?

    One of the ship designers swears they've been tested on maps like that at full size.

    However, I'll kindly point out that it may be able to physically fit itself into the trenches and corridors.....
    ..... but maneuvering around them with any kind of efficiency may be another matter entirely, haha.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    Would 26th Century Dreadnoughts even fit in The Breach?

    One of the ship designers swears they've been tested on maps like that at full size.

    However, I'll kindly point out that it may be able to physically fit itself into the trenches and corridors.....
    ..... but maneuvering around them with any kind of efficiency may be another matter entirely, haha.

    I will have a good chuckle when I see them set stuck on everything.

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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Don't ever say some Ship is great publicly on the Forums. The Ferengi will just jack up the price on the Exchange. :)

    Quiet, yous! ~slips off one of her red stilettos and chases Ltminns with it~

    Don't get the wheels in their heads turning! :#

    Too late I guess. There are only two on the Exchange right now, one is about 200 Million more than it had been (555 Million) and the other was posted by some jerk-wad at 750 Million

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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    redvenge wrote: »
    I want to get excited about these, but pet AI is still terrible. Depending on how prices go, I might get the Klingon version for my Ferasan.

    While Hangar Unit AI is TRIBBLE, the thing that works for these frigates are that they are beam oriented and use BFAW. This isn't like the other Frigates that are sluggish and cannot present the DHCs / DCs / Torpedoes that many of them feature as primary weapons. The KDF BOP, Fed Calistos are very front weapon heavy units, but can't swing their weapons the right direction to save their lives. Too much reliance on narrow arc weapons and they don't maneuver like Fighters.

    Here's the layout for the basic version of these ships' frigates:

    Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Fore)
    1x Phaser Dual Beam Bank (Fore)
    1x Quantum Torpedo Launcher (Fore)
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Aft)

    Abilities:
    Fire At Will 1 (R5)
    Scratch the Paint
    Channeled Deconstruction
    Torpedo: High Yield I (R5)

    The KDF & Rom versions are identical, minus the disruptor and plasma variances. These frigates don't need to be highly maneuverable to present weapons. They feature wide weapon arcs and a good tactical ability, BFAW, that actually makes them useful.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    I'm not a huge fan of how the dreadnoughts look, but the Cestus frigate...
    dca2623801f08dede6ec9c9e0b659bfd1488845628.png
    That thing is gorgeous.

    Right? I hope we're gonna get it as a playable starship soon.

    If these "pets" (all 3 types) are as big to their motherships as other shuttles/fighters are to regular dread/carriers they most likely are already as big as a small cruiser/big escort and only need a console/boff/weapon layout done.
  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    In commemoration of "J" Day, let me offer this middling quality, unlimited edition poster of Starfleet's own "Spruce Goose" the Enterprise J:

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    Long may she spindle!

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  • wylonuswylonus Member Posts: 471 Arc User
    is the designer running out of styles? they are getting flat.
  • merlinofliramerlinoflira Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    Is this a very early April Fools joke? The E-J is huge. . . They finally jumped the shark.

    No, this is not an April fools Joke.

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  • merlinofliramerlinoflira Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    No thanks, I rather stick to my Paladin Temporal Battlecruiser. She is much nicer and smaller than the Enterprise-J is. In fact the Temporal Battlecruiser can pass off as the Enterprise-J if it weren't for a few design issues.
  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
    wylonus wrote: »
    is the designer running out of styles? they are getting flat.

    Flat is the new triangular saucer.

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  • borgified007borgified007 Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    Game has jumped the shark period. It's just gone stupid ridiculous now. Thanks to the random ship warp out bug and universe class ships its time to shelve it possibly permanently.
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    While Hangar Unit AI is ****, the thing that works for these frigates are that they are beam oriented and use BFAW. This isn't like the other Frigates that are sluggish and cannot present the DHCs / DCs / Torpedoes that many of them feature as primary weapons. The KDF BOP, Fed Calistos are very front weapon heavy units, but can't swing their weapons the right direction to save their lives. Too much reliance on narrow arc weapons and they don't maneuver like Fighters.

    Here's the layout for the basic version of these ships' frigates:

    Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Fore)
    1x Phaser Dual Beam Bank (Fore)
    1x Quantum Torpedo Launcher (Fore)
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Aft)

    Abilities:
    Fire At Will 1 (R5)
    Scratch the Paint
    Channeled Deconstruction
    Torpedo: High Yield I (R5)

    The KDF & Rom versions are identical, minus the disruptor and plasma variances. These frigates don't need to be highly maneuverable to present weapons. They feature wide weapon arcs and a good tactical ability, BFAW, that actually makes them useful.

    Yeah, until now the Recluse was the only real worthwhile Carrier if for some reason you wanted to focus on pets. The Mesh Weavers use 2xDBB and a torp fore with a rear array, and FAW, APB, and Evasive Maneuvers for abilities but I'd say these are a close second.
  • nephitisnephitis Member Posts: 456 Arc User
    Just sad that you need to use the trade channel to acquire promo ships. I prefer to use the solid exchange.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    nephitis wrote: »
    Just sad that you need to use the trade channel to acquire promo ships. I prefer to use the solid exchange.

    There's a lot of sad stuff about STO between bugs and lack of support for players greed in selling ships apparently.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    nephitis wrote: »
    Just sad that you need to use the trade channel to acquire promo ships. I prefer to use the solid exchange.

    I agree, which is why I won't use those channels. You have to be very careful to protect yourself from getting ripped off and I don't like that. If I can't get it from the C-Store or from the Exchange or other in game store, I consider the item to be something I simply don't need.

    Trading with people you don't know is an 'at your own risk' proposition. If you get taken, you have no recourse.
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  • peachpest04peachpest04 Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    While I like the design of both the KDF and Romulan versions I was never really a big fan of the look of the Enterprise-J in the 1st place so really im not all that bothered about these ships and being a R&D Promo will make this ships way too expensive so that further kills my interest in them.



  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    talien wrote: »
    While Hangar Unit AI is ****, the thing that works for these frigates are that they are beam oriented and use BFAW. This isn't like the other Frigates that are sluggish and cannot present the DHCs / DCs / Torpedoes that many of them feature as primary weapons. The KDF BOP, Fed Calistos are very front weapon heavy units, but can't swing their weapons the right direction to save their lives. Too much reliance on narrow arc weapons and they don't maneuver like Fighters.

    Here's the layout for the basic version of these ships' frigates:

    Weapons:
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Fore)
    1x Phaser Dual Beam Bank (Fore)
    1x Quantum Torpedo Launcher (Fore)
    1x Phaser Beam Array (Aft)

    Abilities:
    Fire At Will 1 (R5)
    Scratch the Paint
    Channeled Deconstruction
    Torpedo: High Yield I (R5)

    The KDF & Rom versions are identical, minus the disruptor and plasma variances. These frigates don't need to be highly maneuverable to present weapons. They feature wide weapon arcs and a good tactical ability, BFAW, that actually makes them useful.

    Yeah, until now the Recluse was the only real worthwhile Carrier if for some reason you wanted to focus on pets. The Mesh Weavers use 2xDBB and a torp fore with a rear array, and FAW, APB, and Evasive Maneuvers for abilities but I'd say these are a close second.

    The T'Laru Warbird Carrier can use 2x Elite Romulan Drone ships which have FAW III, and BO III, along with EPtS III and Sensor Scramble. I think that makes it a bit more competitive with the Recluse.
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