@marcusdkane: I got the 7 of 9 suit for my liberated Borg eng boff, and made her outfit into a darker variation on the 7 of 9 theme. I made her Borg suit black all over and I like the way it turned out. In my Trek story (that I've been writing off and on) she's a former Borg queen who was rescued and now works as a researcher with the Borg Cooperative. She's my Borg specialist who "rides shotgun" on missions involving the Borg.
I like your concept, did you try and make her look like Alice Krige/Susanah Thompson? My first Borg BOFF, Sarina, I based off the appearance of Gemma Atkinson (as with Jeri Ryan, strangely hard features to replicate with the character tailor) She was gradually de-assimilated as Cara levelled up, before being restored to fully Human appearance. Following a botched mission aboard a Borg cube where the entire away team went unconscious, I made them all look like drones, while then gradually de-assimilating them over the course of a few days. In Sarina's case, as a Borg weapon was the reward from the mission, she's the one who uses it, on the headcanon that she weaponized her own Borg prosthesis into something she could carry...
My next Borg BOFF recieved, Seven of Seven, well, as mentioned, I have Seven as a character in Trexels, and as I recreated that crew, well, I had to recreate her too... So she was named Annika Hanson (damn game not allowing the proper spelling >_< ) and modelled accordingly (I think she looks more like Natasha Henstridge than Jeri Ryan, but as mentioned above, the character tailor is simply too limited in range...) My notion is that as Trexels involves multiple convergent timelines, this is simply a quantum-displaced version of Seven from another quantum reality. Not This Universe's Annika Hansen/Seven of Nine, but still Annika Hansen/Seven of Nine... I put her in her silver suit for the photographic purpose (I'll post it when photobucket sorts itself out) but in terms of normal play, she simply wears a sciences uniform...
^ I just put my opposing faction female Orion tac/intel boff in the intel short jacket, basic tight pants, and boots (all in black). For story/headcanon purposes I just had her be a Starfleet Intelligence operative assigned to my ship.
I've done the exact same thing, with the rational that the KDF storyline is taking place behind the Fed storyline... In the KDF (her originating point, as a true Orion science BOFF) Sihna is undercover for Starfleet Intelligence, in the Fed timeline, she's been recalled to Starfleet ship duty, and wears a regular Odyssey uniform with the black intelligence devision stripe and a sciences combadge... (copying the exact outfit file over onto an aliengen science BOFF) I had originally tried to recreate her facial features as closely as possible, but when I realized I could simply copy the outfit file, I figured I might as well do so, as it's supposed to be the same person
Easiest solution to this whole 'prettier' issue is to unlock a uniform set that has a closed helmet, now if we only had a paper sack item to drop on ugly BOs heads in the tailor shop...
Fair enough, you've made a fair point that Starfleet didn't have any hard and fast rules on hairstyling. I'd counter that with the point made by myself and others; that Elisa is placed into a position of responsibility. Human vanity would suggest someone would want to present the best possible appearance, and would likely want to 'look the part'
I don't think that jives with Flores' character as we see in the tutorial though, she certainly dosn't come across as a career officer, she comes off as a bit quirky.
Performance reviews and a series of airlock drills soon made her buck her ideas up
Easiest solution to this whole 'prettier' issue is to unlock a uniform set that has a closed helmet, now if we only had a paper sack item to drop on ugly BOs heads in the tailor shop...
Easiest solution to this whole 'prettier' issue is to unlock a uniform set that has a closed helmet, now if we only had a paper sack item to drop on ugly BOs heads in the tailor shop...
Oppressors! "Prettiness" is a tool of the patriarchy!
/sarcasm
Pretty funny!
Qapla!
A bit rude ... but funny!
Also, you could walk Mr. Flores over to the KDF in Skirts thread. Maybe she could compare notes on fashion with the fierce and uncompromising ladies of the Klingon Defense Force, and those most liberated of the unliberated, the Orions?
No need to get rid of a free Bridge Officef that is one of the best for ground combat. She even beats the Jem'Hadar BOff. By the time the Jem'Hadar has activated it's shroud, Elisa Flores has killed the target.
I think the only better tac ground boffs are Pakleds (dumb luck trait), Klingons (the good ones are expensive) and Aliens (since they can have some pretty good traits, though they're usually very expensive.)
No need to get rid of a free Bridge Officef that is one of the best for ground combat. She even beats the Jem'Hadar BOff. By the time the Jem'Hadar has activated it's shroud, Elisa Flores has killed the target.
I think the only better tac ground boffs are Pakleds (dumb luck trait), Klingons (the good ones are expensive) and Aliens (since they can have some pretty good traits, though they're usually very expensive.)
I didn't realize that when I started playing and dismissed her because I wanted my own officers I resurrected Elisa as a re-skin of a Rare engineering BOFF I bought off the exchange. I'd never actually used her on anything till tonight, where she turned out to be pretty useful, with Engineering Team I, Reverse Shield Polarity I, Eject Warp Plasma I, and Aceton Beam III, so better ship capabilities than my liberated Borg... Her ground traits are Quick Fix I, Reroute Power to Shields I, Shield Generator Fabrication II and Quantum Mortar Fabrication II...
My current assassination squadaway team, comprises an Orion aliengen (skinned with KDF Orion, so legit, not just someone with green skin) a Bajoran, a Klingon, and an Argentinian Human, and damn, they are efficient...
Wow, that's an awesome outfit (not one I've yet encountered in the game) it reminds me a bit of the Lost in Space(movie) crysuits, and Maria's robot form in Metropolis You've done a great job on her face too! Much softer
@sabreracer#4622: That's the exact same hairstyle I used for my Elisa. Mine just wears the command variant of the Odyssey uniform with the white shoulders. And I left her face more or less "stock" and didn't change it much (just a couple minor, subtle adjustments).
That looks like the Iconian reputation uniform... my but it is skintight... too much so, really... looks like the graphics devs need to get out more. Like, seriously...
I really don't think you read much of what some of us have said in regards to getting rid of Elisa. I don't really care what she brings to the table, it's what I can't do with her that matters. I can't change her name, she's human so all I can do is change how human she is, and her unique space skills are wasted on my ships (all one of them) because of a low level tactical crew station. I'd rather clear the bridge officer slot for my little hobby than pretend I'll have a use for her in some unknown future. But hey, keep yelling at that brick wall about how awesome she is, I'm sure it'll appreciate your efforts some day.
Append - Just to affirm that it really is no loss to kick her back to the Academy I recently went back, took her back on as crew... then dismissed her again. This is my second time doing it so, again, no real loss, she's always back at the Academy. Waiting. Forever.
^ "Append - Just to affirm that it really is no loss to kick her back to the Academy I recently went back, took her back on as crew... then dismissed her again. This is my second time doing it so, again, no real loss, she's always back at the Academy. Waiting. Forever."
Sounds like we have people here who don't populate their crew in accordance with IDIC.
The Federation is beyond all that you know. Colonel Green was defeated.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I consider the haircut as being more fitting from someone who has gone from being a cadet (not a student, but a military cadet) to a commissioned officer in a position of responsibility, and thus with a certain professional image to maintain...
But Flores is in Starfleet not a military, she's gone from a student (a cadet, yes, but not a military one) to an officer in Starfleet.
I know the idea is for us to be able to customize our characters as we want, but at the end of the day, these are supposed to be Officers, and thus, to paraphrase Captain Jellico, maintain a certailevel of professionalism. I'm sure that modern militaries have a guideline against 'eccentric haircuts', and the Punk style, definitely qualifies as thus
I don't know if you've seen Star Trek or not but please point to a single character who's hair is military grade? I can think of Sisko and The Doctor but only because they're both bald, maybe Kira a bit later on when her hair was less poofy. Even Kirk's TOS hair is too long, his film hair might not be though and possibly Seven.
The punk style is no different from the idiotic crossweave thing that Rand wore in TOS. Starfleet has a uniform code, it dosn't have a appearance code.
I'm not telling you to use the punk hair (I don't because it dosn't fit my aesthetic), I'm just saying the reason you give for not doing so is spurious.
He does have a point, though. That haircut does not look like that of a mature, professional individual whose actions may or may not be responsible for the lives or deaths of countless people. She looks more like a kid trying to pretend she's in Starfleet.
Starfleet's not the army, you know.
Thank goodness.
I don't know, I like Elisa's whole personality and quirkiness. Just not the ugly "punk" hairdo (or should I say "hair-don't"). Hence the hairstyle change on my Elisa and not much else.
But if she wasn't, I can always fix that by having more Romulan Ale.
Qapla!
P.S. The I.D.I.C should be considered. How many ways can you change Mr. Flores? I have about 30 Starfleet toons, and it does get boring if all the crews look exactly alike. So I guess that is a good reason to fiddle with what is otherwise just fine.
Well, you can't do that anymore. The four "first boffs" cannot be dismissed anymore, since quite a while already (It was a result of Tovan Khev being made "essential").
Last I checked, all the first four BOFFs can be dismissed...
I believe he was referring to the initial purple BOFF for each of the four factions: Fed, KDF, Romulan, 23C Starfleet.
Last I knew, you couldn't delete any of them but it's not like I've experimented with it lately.
wait now were stuck with flores liike were stuck with khev? O.o
Sounds like we have people here who don't populate their crew in accordance with IDIC.
The Federation is beyond all that you know. Colonel Green was defeated.
Are you both trying to say, that you think this:
is as well-finalized a toon as this:
It's quite clear that Miral has had either more time/effort or skill used in her latest appearance, and the delicacy of Miral's features, is an example that Elisa's could be improved upon (in terms of aesthetic presentation)
I consider the haircut as being more fitting from someone who has gone from being a cadet (not a student, but a military cadet) to a commissioned officer in a position of responsibility, and thus with a certain professional image to maintain...
But Flores is in Starfleet not a military, she's gone from a student (a cadet, yes, but not a military one) to an officer in Starfleet.
I know the idea is for us to be able to customize our characters as we want, but at the end of the day, these are supposed to be Officers, and thus, to paraphrase Captain Jellico, maintain a certailevel of professionalism. I'm sure that modern militaries have a guideline against 'eccentric haircuts', and the Punk style, definitely qualifies as thus
I don't know if you've seen Star Trek or not but please point to a single character who's hair is military grade? I can think of Sisko and The Doctor but only because they're both bald, maybe Kira a bit later on when her hair was less poofy. Even Kirk's TOS hair is too long, his film hair might not be though and possibly Seven.
The punk style is no different from the idiotic crossweave thing that Rand wore in TOS. Starfleet has a uniform code, it dosn't have a appearance code.
I'm not telling you to use the punk hair (I don't because it dosn't fit my aesthetic), I'm just saying the reason you give for not doing so is spurious.
He does have a point, though. That haircut does not look like that of a mature, professional individual whose actions may or may not be responsible for the lives or deaths of countless people. She looks more like a kid trying to pretend she's in Starfleet.
Starfleet's not the army, you know.
Thank goodness.
As I said to artan, I'd rather not drag my thread off-topic with the debate of is Starfleet a military. Thanks.
As promised upthread, my attempt at Seven of Nine for my transition of my Trexels crew... As mentioned, she looks more like Natasha Henstridge... In terms of recreating a set of features, I consider this one a failure...The eyes should be half again as large (height) and have more green in them... The forehead should be a completely different shape... The lips should be a totally different shape... The hairstyle is wrong... But given the limitations of what the sliders will actually facilitate, I'm prepared to suspend disbelief and accept her as a representation of Seven...
Precisely... The options which we as players have, doesn't have the range needed to actually make things look correct... The eyes, for example, are as large as the sliders will allow, but they are still way too narrow... Still, crew manifest mandated her presence...
I consider the haircut as being more fitting from someone who has gone from being a cadet (not a student, but a military cadet) to a commissioned officer in a position of responsibility, and thus with a certain professional image to maintain...
But Flores is in Starfleet not a military, she's gone from a student (a cadet, yes, but not a military one) to an officer in Starfleet.
I know the idea is for us to be able to customize our characters as we want, but at the end of the day, these are supposed to be Officers, and thus, to paraphrase Captain Jellico, maintain a certailevel of professionalism. I'm sure that modern militaries have a guideline against 'eccentric haircuts', and the Punk style, definitely qualifies as thus
I don't know if you've seen Star Trek or not but please point to a single character who's hair is military grade? I can think of Sisko and The Doctor but only because they're both bald, maybe Kira a bit later on when her hair was less poofy. Even Kirk's TOS hair is too long, his film hair might not be though and possibly Seven.
The punk style is no different from the idiotic crossweave thing that Rand wore in TOS. Starfleet has a uniform code, it dosn't have a appearance code.
I'm not telling you to use the punk hair (I don't because it dosn't fit my aesthetic), I'm just saying the reason you give for not doing so is spurious.
He does have a point, though. That haircut does not look like that of a mature, professional individual whose actions may or may not be responsible for the lives or deaths of countless people. She looks more like a kid trying to pretend she's in Starfleet.
Starfleet's not the army, you know.
Thank goodness.
I deliberately avoided saying 'military officer' for a reason. There's still the issue of "whose actions may or may not be responsible for the lives or deaths of countless people", regardless of whether you define Starfleet as a military organization or not (I couldn't care less). You need look no farther than the tutorial to get plenty of evidence to support that.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
My first Fed Bridge Officer has to be an Andorian. That's how it used to be for me, since I always picked the Andorian. At least as TOS Agent I can get my Andorian back.
Not that I have anything against Flores.
Still have my Andorian First officer from when I did the original tutorial WAAAYYY back in the day. Never got rid of her, and never will.
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Sounds like we have people here who don't populate their crew in accordance with IDIC.
Since when does a Vulcan philosophy, dictate how the rest of the Federation behaves? How dare you insinuate that people must follow such doctrine, or leave themself open to high-handed moral condemnations from self-righteous scolds...
The Federation is beyond all that you know. Colonel Green was defeated.
And replaced with what? Enforced Vulcan philosophy? You're missing the point of what's wrong with the implications of that statement so badly, it's not even funny...
To touch back on this point, now with a more personal response:
*Notably different in regional background, and also includes a C Store liberated Borg (which by very nature, precludes anything other than Human female)
The ship stations are:
Pentaxian
Ferengi
Vulcan
Human (Elisa)
Orion
The away team has:
Pentaxian
Orion (or Jem'Hadar, depending how I feel at the time)
Klingon
Human (Argentinian, meaning noticeably 'not white')
Bajoran
How's that for embracing IDIC and diversity? Have I passed the diversity test?
If you want to actually contribute something worthwhile which is on the topic of my thread, rather than just passing snarky judgements and thinking you're being clever, please feel free. If not, please keep your opinions to yourself...
I don't see how my crew isn't under that IDIC blanket, either. Sure, they're almost all aliens, but they're all DIFFERENT aliens. There's my Kaminoan First Officer who likes to keep suggesting I replace my crew with clones. A Zabrak Chief of Security who's somehow talked my Drac Chief Engineer into moving the tactical console into the darkest part of the bridge... I've got a new Chief Medical Officer who keeps raising the ambient humidity, a Mon Calamari if you can believe it. I do have a human crewman, a spunky thing named Laveta who's quite the over achiever, but she sees the writing on the wall. And me, I'm a Elvaan from Vana'diel who tripped the Void to the world of Hydaelyn where I was mistaken for an Elezen and now, as a captain in Starfleet, am constantly seen as a Vulcan with a long neck. And I'm the racist one...
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My next Borg BOFF recieved, Seven of Seven, well, as mentioned, I have Seven as a character in Trexels, and as I recreated that crew, well, I had to recreate her too... So she was named Annika Hanson (damn game not allowing the proper spelling >_< ) and modelled accordingly (I think she looks more like Natasha Henstridge than Jeri Ryan, but as mentioned above, the character tailor is simply too limited in range...) My notion is that as Trexels involves multiple convergent timelines, this is simply a quantum-displaced version of Seven from another quantum reality. Not This Universe's Annika Hansen/Seven of Nine, but still Annika Hansen/Seven of Nine... I put her in her silver suit for the photographic purpose (I'll post it when photobucket sorts itself out) but in terms of normal play, she simply wears a sciences uniform...
I've done the exact same thing, with the rational that the KDF storyline is taking place behind the Fed storyline... In the KDF (her originating point, as a true Orion science BOFF) Sihna is undercover for Starfleet Intelligence, in the Fed timeline, she's been recalled to Starfleet ship duty, and wears a regular Odyssey uniform with the black intelligence devision stripe and a sciences combadge... (copying the exact outfit file over onto an aliengen science BOFF) I had originally tried to recreate her facial features as closely as possible, but when I realized I could simply copy the outfit file, I figured I might as well do so, as it's supposed to be the same person
Pretty funny!
Qapla!
A bit rude ... but funny!
Also, you could walk Mr. Flores over to the KDF in Skirts thread. Maybe she could compare notes on fashion with the fierce and uncompromising ladies of the Klingon Defense Force, and those most liberated of the unliberated, the Orions?
Qapla! Again!
No need to get rid of a free Bridge Officef that is one of the best for ground combat. She even beats the Jem'Hadar BOff. By the time the Jem'Hadar has activated it's shroud, Elisa Flores has killed the target.
I think the only better tac ground boffs are Pakleds (dumb luck trait), Klingons (the good ones are expensive) and Aliens (since they can have some pretty good traits, though they're usually very expensive.)
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
I didn't realize that when I started playing and dismissed her because I wanted my own officers
My current assassination squadaway team, comprises an Orion aliengen (skinned with KDF Orion, so legit, not just someone with green skin) a Bajoran, a Klingon, and an Argentinian Human, and damn, they are efficient...
Append - Just to affirm that it really is no loss to kick her back to the Academy I recently went back, took her back on as crew... then dismissed her again. This is my second time doing it so, again, no real loss, she's always back at the Academy. Waiting. Forever.
Aww...
That's OK, I'll take her on my ship.
The Federation is beyond all that you know. Colonel Green was defeated.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Starfleet's not the army, you know.
Thank goodness.
Yepperoni.
But if she wasn't, I can always fix that by having more Romulan Ale.
Qapla!
P.S. The I.D.I.C should be considered. How many ways can you change Mr. Flores? I have about 30 Starfleet toons, and it does get boring if all the crews look exactly alike. So I guess that is a good reason to fiddle with what is otherwise just fine.
wait now were stuck with flores liike were stuck with khev? O.o
Are you both trying to say, that you think this:
is as well-finalized a toon as this:
It's quite clear that Miral has had either more time/effort or skill used in her latest appearance, and the delicacy of Miral's features, is an example that Elisa's could be improved upon (in terms of aesthetic presentation)
As I said to artan, I'd rather not drag my thread off-topic with the debate of is Starfleet a military. Thanks.
I deliberately avoided saying 'military officer' for a reason. There's still the issue of "whose actions may or may not be responsible for the lives or deaths of countless people", regardless of whether you define Starfleet as a military organization or not (I couldn't care less). You need look no farther than the tutorial to get plenty of evidence to support that.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Still have my Andorian First officer from when I did the original tutorial WAAAYYY back in the day. Never got rid of her, and never will.
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Since when does a Vulcan philosophy, dictate how the rest of the Federation behaves? How dare you insinuate that people must follow such doctrine, or leave themself open to high-handed moral condemnations from self-righteous scolds...
And replaced with what? Enforced Vulcan philosophy? You're missing the point of what's wrong with the implications of that statement so badly, it's not even funny...
To touch back on this point, now with a more personal response: Don't assume that you know how I populate my crew(s), and then display the arrogance to make such a snide insinuation... How f*cking dare you...
My primary crew, is populated thusly:
1 Aenar
1 Andorian
4 Bajorans
1 Betazoid
1 Bolian
1 Ferengi
5 Humans*
1 Jem'Hadar
2 Klingons
2 Orions
2 Pentaxians
1 Romulan
2 Saurians
2 Trill
1 Vulcan
*Notably different in regional background, and also includes a C Store liberated Borg (which by very nature, precludes anything other than Human female)
The ship stations are:
Pentaxian
Ferengi
Vulcan
Human (Elisa)
Orion
The away team has:
Pentaxian
Orion (or Jem'Hadar, depending how I feel at the time)
Klingon
Human (Argentinian, meaning noticeably 'not white')
Bajoran
How's that for embracing IDIC and diversity? Have I passed the diversity test?
If you want to actually contribute something worthwhile which is on the topic of my thread, rather than just passing snarky judgements and thinking you're being clever, please feel free. If not, please keep your opinions to yourself...