T-Mats use Time Corridors that negate the time taken to travel the distance.
Where did you get these ideas from, I only ask because I want to avoid it, it's obviously a bad source, transmats don't use Time Corridors http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Transmat and Doctor Who IS Sci-fi, though it also has elements of fairy tale and fantasy as well
T-Mats use Time Corridors that negate the time taken to travel the distance.
Where did you get these ideas from, I only ask because I want to avoid it, it's obviously a bad source, transmats don't use Time Corridors http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Transmat and Doctor Who IS Sci-fi, though it also has elements of fairy tale and fantasy as well
In both Bad Wolf and the Five Doctors, T-Mats are used to time travel suggesting they are capable of it generally. As they clearly don't have any sort of time drive, I'm assuming Time Corridor. I'm fairly certain the same happened in Asylum of the Daleks as well. They seem to work in the same way as Vortex Manipulators.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
In both Bad Wolf and the Five Doctors, T-Mats are used to time travel suggesting they are capable of it generally. As they clearly don't have any sort of time drive, I'm assuming Time Corridor. I'm fairly certain the same happened in Asylum of the Daleks as well. They seem to work in the same way as Vortex Manipulators.
You just seem to be guessing, I prefer facts, they're much less annoying.
Getting back to convergent concepts, we have the similar ways of both series to change out actors when they get tired of their parts while not killing their characters, Symbiosis for Trills in Star Trek (the host lives on in memory as long as the Symbiont lives, for all you pedants out there) and Regeneration for the Time Lords in Doctor Who.
Regeneration seems to be the one that would give a show the longer lifespan, while Time Lords as a rule can only regenerate 12 times, their regeneration cycles can be manipulated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AxCoMbiZfk
Since there hasn't been any info on the lifespan of Trill symbionts that I could find I won't even venture a guess on whether or not their lifespan is finite but at least it's proven itself to be an interesting way to inject new life into a character or show
Intergalactic communications and intergalactic travel follow different rules.
Because a transmission has no physical mass, it can be accelerated to FTL velocities much easier then physical matter.
A Luminan datastream could reach their homeworld instantly, but you'd still have to wait hours for the ship you requested to make the journey to come to the destination planet specified. Ancient communication stones also sent information instantly, but their ships still take time to travel between galaxies.
Now that it is mentioned, it seems that Trill symbiotes are analagous to the Tok'Ra symbiotes from Stargate.
They are sentient beings that carry the memories of one partner to the next when the prior partner dies of old age.
And yes, it is possible for Trill symbiotes to transfer their memories to another being without being physically bonded to them, although it's never been specified if they can do this to another symbiote.
Also, there is a personal problem in doing so, by transferring the memories, it's like loosing a part of themselves and they need to get the memories back or experience mental trauma from the missing part of their mind.
So transferring all the memories out would basically result in brain death, possibly even physical death of the symbiote.
Therefore they'd only do this if they were about to die, since it would most likely kill them anyway.
I'm not sure what would happen next, if the memories could be extracted from the temporary host to another symbiote or not.
But it was shown that unbonded symbiotes can connect to bonded symbiotes, so they might be able to take the memories away from a temporary host.
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Intergalactic communications and intergalactic travel follow different rules.
Because a transmission has no physical mass, it can be accelerated to FTL velocities much easier then physical matter.
A Luminan datastream could reach their homeworld instantly, but you'd still have to wait hours for the ship you requested to make the journey to come to the destination planet specified. Ancient communication stones also sent information instantly, but their ships still take time to travel between galaxies.
You're missing the point. The Empires span multiple galaxies. In order to continue to be empires they need to be able to travel between them quickly.
They replaced the Eye energy receiver with a sun? That is one of the reasons I am hesitant to watch any more episodes of NuWho, it's like they're just not acknowledging their pre-2005 canon history.
An analogy, it would be like TNG suddenly declaring Warp Cores no longer exist.
Gallifrey was destroyed. Where the hell do you think the receiver would be drawing power from?
Oh, it's also called 'technology marches on'. If TNG suddenly decided there was a better drive than warp, what do you think would happen? Starfleet Command would say 'get your damn Quantum Slipstream outa here, we're going back to Warp Cores to wallow in our nostalgia instead of moving on.
Oh, and you know what the Hand of Omega is right? What it's for?
It did happen once in Classic Who though, when they brought the Silurians back, nobody could remember what the third eye in their forehead was for, so they just made it flash when they spoke.
But I knew what it did, so why didn't they?
The third eye was to focus their psychic energies on their enemies, to either control, make them insane or kill them depending on
what they wanted.
A secondary function was that it enabled them to see in the dark.
They forgot what the eye was for? That is one of the reasons I am hesitant to watch any more episodes of OldWho, it's like they're just not acknowledging their pre-1970s canon history.
How many Loch Ness Monsters again?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Well TNG DID have an episode where they discussed how Warp Drive was slowly destroying the galaxy.... a plot point that was never directly referenced ever again.
because they solved the issue, first with variable geometry warp nacelles *cough*voyager*cough*, then just redesigning nacelles outright; why reference a problem that's already been solved?
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1. Gallifrey was destroyed. Where the hell do you think the receiver would be drawing power from?
2. They forgot what the eye was for? That is one of the reasons I am hesitant to watch any more episodes of OldWho, it's like they're just not acknowledging their pre-1970s canon history.
How many Loch Ness Monsters again?
1 Gallifrey was never destroyed, the Doctor's moved it to a pocket universe, it's just that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations were out of sync with the timeline so had no memory of it. WHAT CONCLUSION I DRAW FROM THIS is that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations saw that Gallifrey was gone and thought that they destroyed it.
2. That is one of the daftest reasons not to watch a show that I have ever heard in my life. You've been told Christ knows how many times before that canon means nothing in a time travel show, where most of history can be rewritten.
1. Gallifrey was destroyed. Where the hell do you think the receiver would be drawing power from?
2. They forgot what the eye was for? That is one of the reasons I am hesitant to watch any more episodes of OldWho, it's like they're just not acknowledging their pre-1970s canon history.
How many Loch Ness Monsters again?
1 Gallifrey was never destroyed, the Doctor's moved it to a pocket universe, it's just that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations were out of sync with the timeline so had no memory of it. WHAT CONCLUSION I DRAW FROM THIS is that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations saw that Gallifrey was gone and thought that they destroyed it.
2. That is one of the daftest reasons not to watch a show that I have ever heard in my life. You've been told Christ knows how many times before that canon means nothing in a time travel show, where most of history can be rewritten.
I was destroyed. It was only moved when the Doctor changed the past. If it wasn't, his Eye would still have worked and he wouldn't need the rift energy.
The second was sarcasm. A direct word swap of the spurious reason tilarta gave for not watching any post 2005 episodes.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I was destroyed. It was only moved when the Doctor changed the past. If it wasn't, his Eye would still have worked and he wouldn't need the rift energy.
The second was sarcasm. A direct word swap of the spurious reason tilarta gave for not watching any post 2005 episodes.
As for the second thing, if you'd bothered to check you'd find that I was responding to what Tilarta was saying, it wasn't even directed at you, that's why I numbered them, to make it easier for people to understand who I was talking to.
Anyway, getting back to regeneration/symbiosis, what I want to see from the future of regeneration are more changes from male to female and vice versa, it's only happened three times to my knowledge
I was destroyed. It was only moved when the Doctor changed the past. If it wasn't, his Eye would still have worked and he wouldn't need the rift energy.
The second was sarcasm. A direct word swap of the spurious reason tilarta gave for not watching any post 2005 episodes.
As for the second thing, if you'd bothered to check you'd find that I was responding to what Tilarta was saying, it wasn't even directed at you, that's why I numbered them, to make it easier for people to understand who I was talking to.
Anyway, getting back to regeneration/symbiosis, what I want to see from the future of regeneration are more changes from male to female and vice versa, it's only happened three times to my knowledge
I've already read it. It's a wiki written by people who didn't understand the episode. The Doctor changed the end of the War, however there was a time before where the planet was gone.
How does the numbering help? All you've done is put a number in front of my quote, not tilarta's. It has my bit about the Loch Ness Monster in it. Though if you've edited it out of my multiquote then it's understandable why it's mixed up.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I've already read it. It's a wiki written by people who didn't understand the episode. The Doctor changed the end of the War, however there was a time before where the planet was gone.
How does the numbering help? All you've done is put a number in front of my quote, not tilarta's. It has my bit about the Loch Ness Monster in it. Though if you've edited it out of my multiquote then it's understandable why it's mixed up.
i would try to make you understand how wrong you are but in your TOTAL ARROGANCE you'd never understand, you're just not worth it. It's people like you and whoever changed the name of this thread that are making this forum a cesspit, I'm glad to be rid of it AND you
Thyme, you need to go relax for a little while. Oh, and remember three key facts:
1) This is a discussion forum. If you want to have a private conversation, use private messaging or emails.
2) Doctor Who was created as a children's show, and has little if anything in the way of continuity. Digging for it will net you nothing but headaches.
3) The MST3K mantra. "Repeat to yourself, 'It's just a show,/I should really just relax'..."
I've already read it. It's a wiki written by people who didn't understand the episode. The Doctor changed the end of the War, however there was a time before where the planet was gone.
How does the numbering help? All you've done is put a number in front of my quote, not tilarta's. It has my bit about the Loch Ness Monster in it. Though if you've edited it out of my multiquote then it's understandable why it's mixed up.
i would try to make you understand how wrong you are but in your TOTAL ARROGANCE you'd never understand, you're just not worth it. It's people like you and whoever changed the name of this thread that are making this forum a cesspit, I'm glad to be rid of it AND you
Fair doos.
If you fancy growing up and discussing why you think the end of that episode was different, you know how to get hold of me. If not then, goodbye.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Where did you get these ideas from, I only ask because I want to avoid it, it's obviously a bad source, transmats don't use Time Corridors http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Transmat and Doctor Who IS Sci-fi, though it also has elements of fairy tale and fantasy as well
In both Bad Wolf and the Five Doctors, T-Mats are used to time travel suggesting they are capable of it generally. As they clearly don't have any sort of time drive, I'm assuming Time Corridor. I'm fairly certain the same happened in Asylum of the Daleks as well. They seem to work in the same way as Vortex Manipulators.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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You just seem to be guessing, I prefer facts, they're much less annoying.
Getting back to convergent concepts, we have the similar ways of both series to change out actors when they get tired of their parts while not killing their characters, Symbiosis for Trills in Star Trek (the host lives on in memory as long as the Symbiont lives, for all you pedants out there) and Regeneration for the Time Lords in Doctor Who.
Regeneration seems to be the one that would give a show the longer lifespan, while Time Lords as a rule can only regenerate 12 times, their regeneration cycles can be manipulated
Since there hasn't been any info on the lifespan of Trill symbionts that I could find I won't even venture a guess on whether or not their lifespan is finite but at least it's proven itself to be an interesting way to inject new life into a character or show
My character Tsin'xing
Because a transmission has no physical mass, it can be accelerated to FTL velocities much easier then physical matter.
A Luminan datastream could reach their homeworld instantly, but you'd still have to wait hours for the ship you requested to make the journey to come to the destination planet specified.
Ancient communication stones also sent information instantly, but their ships still take time to travel between galaxies.
Now that it is mentioned, it seems that Trill symbiotes are analagous to the Tok'Ra symbiotes from Stargate.
They are sentient beings that carry the memories of one partner to the next when the prior partner dies of old age.
And yes, it is possible for Trill symbiotes to transfer their memories to another being without being physically bonded to them, although it's never been specified if they can do this to another symbiote.
Also, there is a personal problem in doing so, by transferring the memories, it's like loosing a part of themselves and they need to get the memories back or experience mental trauma from the missing part of their mind.
So transferring all the memories out would basically result in brain death, possibly even physical death of the symbiote.
Therefore they'd only do this if they were about to die, since it would most likely kill them anyway.
I'm not sure what would happen next, if the memories could be extracted from the temporary host to another symbiote or not.
But it was shown that unbonded symbiotes can connect to bonded symbiotes, so they might be able to take the memories away from a temporary host.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
It's usually called 'drawing conclusions'.
You're missing the point. The Empires span multiple galaxies. In order to continue to be empires they need to be able to travel between them quickly.
Gallifrey was destroyed. Where the hell do you think the receiver would be drawing power from?
Oh, it's also called 'technology marches on'. If TNG suddenly decided there was a better drive than warp, what do you think would happen? Starfleet Command would say 'get your damn Quantum Slipstream outa here, we're going back to Warp Cores to wallow in our nostalgia instead of moving on.
Oh, and you know what the Hand of Omega is right? What it's for?
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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1 Gallifrey was never destroyed, the Doctor's moved it to a pocket universe, it's just that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations were out of sync with the timeline so had no memory of it. WHAT CONCLUSION I DRAW FROM THIS is that the John Hurt and David Tennant incarnations saw that Gallifrey was gone and thought that they destroyed it.
2. That is one of the daftest reasons not to watch a show that I have ever heard in my life. You've been told Christ knows how many times before that canon means nothing in a time travel show, where most of history can be rewritten.
For more info on the Eye of Harmony, take a read http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Eye_of_Harmony
I was destroyed. It was only moved when the Doctor changed the past. If it wasn't, his Eye would still have worked and he wouldn't need the rift energy.
The second was sarcasm. A direct word swap of the spurious reason tilarta gave for not watching any post 2005 episodes.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Gallifrey Read and comprehend for yourself
As for the second thing, if you'd bothered to check you'd find that I was responding to what Tilarta was saying, it wasn't even directed at you, that's why I numbered them, to make it easier for people to understand who I was talking to.
Anyway, getting back to regeneration/symbiosis, what I want to see from the future of regeneration are more changes from male to female and vice versa, it's only happened three times to my knowledge
Here's a bit of background on regeneration for you http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Regeneration
I've already read it. It's a wiki written by people who didn't understand the episode. The Doctor changed the end of the War, however there was a time before where the planet was gone.
How does the numbering help? All you've done is put a number in front of my quote, not tilarta's. It has my bit about the Loch Ness Monster in it. Though if you've edited it out of my multiquote then it's understandable why it's mixed up.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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i would try to make you understand how wrong you are but in your TOTAL ARROGANCE you'd never understand, you're just not worth it. It's people like you and whoever changed the name of this thread that are making this forum a cesspit, I'm glad to be rid of it AND you
1) This is a discussion forum. If you want to have a private conversation, use private messaging or emails.
2) Doctor Who was created as a children's show, and has little if anything in the way of continuity. Digging for it will net you nothing but headaches.
3) The MST3K mantra. "Repeat to yourself, 'It's just a show,/I should really just relax'..."
Fair doos.
If you fancy growing up and discussing why you think the end of that episode was different, you know how to get hold of me. If not then, goodbye.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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