Not exactly holding my breath, for this one. And certainly not paying for a 1337 extra-special channel, for it. After the last two series and three movies, my faith in Trek creators is dismal, at best.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Interesting knife. I wonder how they explain the Knight's Cross in the house-and-station mark on its blade? Sure, any halfway-competant Klingon logo designer could have and probably did come up with a t-like symbol, but here was a chance to create a design in a triangular shape which would scream Klingon!
That blade just looks Goth to me, and if the new Klingons turn out to be nu-Goths, well, I'd be disappointed. Here's hoping it was just a prop-forger's choice rather than a purposeful design element.
Heh, I find that my opinion of the Discovery changes with every other picture and angle I see it. Sometimes I think it isn't half bad, other days I completely despise it...
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I think I like the "Goth Klingons" concept - that this isn't some kind of weird "ancient Klingons" cult, but in fact the alien equivalent of a bunch of postadolescents who get ear gauges and nose rings, dress in all black, and sit around angsting about the futility of existence while dreaming of ancient monsters...
Pity I doubt the showrunners thought of that one, but I like it anyway.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Okay, aesthetically speaking, the ship's saucer section looks nice, but looking at it in a military and engineering mindset, it's a horrific design. You've got one enormously long hallway connecting the secondary hull to the primary and four connection points between the outer and inner ring. The command center is only accessible via the long hallway.
Sounds good? Nope.
Militarily, it's a good design... if you're the defenders. That long hallway is a giant chokepoint murderzone, kind of like Thermopylae. However, should a boarding party take the bridge, say via beaming in or through brute force effort, that advantage belongs to them now.
Furthermore, you can take and hold the inner ring or even the outer ring as well using the same tactics.
Engineering-wise it's a nightmare because if you blow those four support pylons between the rings, your entire inner ring will be subject to shearing off. You're holding the entire mass of that inner ring on six points normally, and two points when the supports are gone.
The engineer and the military guy in me wants to find the designer and slap them into some semblance of intelligence and then keep going until I collapse from exhaustion.
Apebrain. They are able to make very powerful hulls, despite the shape. The TOS Enterprise took a nuclear bomb, point blank, and took the full brunt.
Yeah? The TOS era stuff was stupidly powerful to the point that it was subsequently taken down several notches. Truth be told, if you took some of the claims made in TOS regarding power levels and abilities as truth, then the TOS Connie could take on the entire TNG-era Borg Collective and not even scratch the paint job.
The original Enterprise had it's primary power sources on the end of skinny poles, critical sections of the ship (including the aforementioned) dangling below it's skinny throat and the command centre exposed on top of the hull :P
Yeah, and I hate the design from an engineering aspect as well (even if you're wrong about the primary power source). Need to fix something in a nacelle? Let's not make it easily accessible, but only accessible by climbing up this long tube. Hope you can carry all your gear in one shot, because multiple trips suuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Don't like it? Go watch Starwars and Aliens....all the clunky shoe boxes you can find.
At the tip of the blade in the center of what should be a mark that shows the owner's house and his role and rank. The affiliation and rank of any warrior should be identifiable by the design on his blade.
I think I like the "Goth Klingons" concept - that this isn't some kind of weird "ancient Klingons" cult, but in fact the alien equivalent of a bunch of postadolescents who get ear gauges and nose rings, dress in all black, and sit around angsting about the futility of existence while dreaming of ancient monsters...
Pity I doubt the showrunners thought of that one, but I like it anyway.
TKumva's costume is something I really like. It's very reminiscent of both Gorkon and Changs costumes as well as the basic layout of the TNG uniform. A padded undershirt and gauntlets topped with a heavy sleeveless tunic length jacket.
The Mekleth is also great, very ancestral. The D'ktahg on the other hand is too human like. All those curves on the hilt, and to be honest all I can see is the HYDRA logo there.
The disruptors however look like sh|te. Absolute bollocks. Worse even that Cryptics stupid Honour Guard rifles.
Other than the mouthpiece I love this. So little have we seen actual armour on ST and to do it in a way that creates a consistent look with the masks from 09 and ID is great.
It's okay. It's reminiscent of the ENT and TMP EV suits and the ID EV suit but it's too over designed to me. In fact if you coloured it brown and green it would look just like Cryptics KDF Lifetime Vet EV suit.
I don't just see the ENT rifle or the Cage lasers but also the WNMHGB rifle here. Those three cylinders at the back of the rifle and a nice call back there.
Whilst it's nice to have a medical uniform and the white is a nice call back to the Kelvin era and TMP/TWoK eras I don't like the fact it's just a standard division uniform. The smocks on the Kelvin, McCoys sleeveless top in TOS and ID and the blue coats in TNG are not just to show there's a medical division but for actual use in surgery. Everywhere else they just wear a Science division uniform.
The tactical uniform is an actual separate excursion uniform now. It's made of a leather material and not just the armoured jacket worn over the duty uniform. Very sensible. Even the MACO didn't wear armour.
Massive and gigantic misstep! Wrong decision here completely. Those oversized Tricorders are a part of TOS that should be left far in the past along with the oversized PADDs, lasers, and Warp 14.
Both ENT and the KT showed a Tricorder far more in line with what we're actually developing nowadays, and as the Cage era Communicator with it's 60s transistors was ignored, so to should the TOS Tricorder with it's three buttons and a calculator sized screen.
Nope. This is clearly a 24th century ship. It's like a DS( version of the Centaur.
Yup. This clearly follows the Klingon design philosophy we're familiar with. A very Negh'Var like silhouette.
YUP! Bloody lovely ship here. The single thing I'm unsure on is the purple deflector.
I am very excited for this show now and I hope the next trailer is out soon. Maybe with a tad more than content from the first two episodes.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
the upper part of that costume reminds me a bit of an ancient egyptian neckpiece - like below, only not made of beads but with a weblike pattern that makes me think of something a priestess of Lolth might wear - a very interesting design overall
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I really have to give props to the designers for their attention to detail in the Klingon armor. Reminds me of the level of craftsmanship WETA put into their armor for the LoTRO films.
So much so, yes. It's shame it looks like they're ancestral Klingons after all this as they won't be reusing these costumes beyond this show at most and the first series at least.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
It's shame it looks like they're ancestral Klingons after all this as they won't be reusing these costumes beyond this show at most and the first series at least.
this is the same franchise that reuses assets to an excess that makes those old 50s shows like hogan's heroes look subdued
i have no worries that the basic design at least will continue to see use beyond discovery
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
I must disagree with your assessment of the ship designs, Artan. While the Shenzhou does somewhat resemble a Dervish-class, I can also see design callbacks to the NX-class in it (then again, the same is true of many of STO's Escorts). And that Klingon thing looks like someone found a half-decayed bird and covered it in cloisonne. I'm given hope in that some materials have implied it may be some sort of ceremonial craft, and that the regular Klingon fleet will bear a closer resemblance to their businesslike designs elsewhere, but this... this is not a warship.
The d'k tagh and disruptors look like they may have been designed by H.R. Giger; I hope these are specialized designs, like the uniform that's apparently House-specific, not a Klingon constant.
Also still not a fan of that colored steel rim around the Starfleet boot soles.
That ship looks like two Kar'fi bows welded on the ends of the nacelles.
Which would be a good fit to the idea that Klingons reverse engineered their first ships from the hulls of the Hur'q. This ship might have an interesting history.
@artan42 I won't full quote, but I personally have to disagree on a lot what you said.
I do acknowledge the ancient Klingon designs looking good by themselves, it's fine craftsmanship and very detailed. It is a theme and what the deal with it is will be revealed in the show. However I have to disagree that any of the props or the ship resembles any kind of traditional Klingon visual. Seeing the "basic layout" of the TNG uniform in the first costume borders to trolling in my opinion Same with the ship - not only is there a huge temporal difference between them, it's like looking at a Ford model T and saying "Yes, that's clearly Porsche design" because it's a car with four wheels and a steering wheel. I do concur with your general assesment though, the disruptor and the blades are overkill and sorta out-of-place, even in the ancient design line, however I do like the STO adapted HG rifle with the axe bayonett
The Starfleet gear is too ENT for my taste. It looks like a logical evolution of it but it's simply not down my alley, but that's a matter of taste. I'd have loved to see the excursion gear be an actual vest over the default uniform as that's exactly what I have in my head regarding necessary Starfleet equipment of that era. I agree with the medical uniform issue but I strongly disagree with your tricorder statement - I love it. I also love the communicator, it is like doing what I said all along - taking classic designs and updating their looks. For the show it should be irrelevant what we develop today, it's the prime universe timeline and the tech looked as it did even when visited from the future. You know I am a hard "no" for retcons, so I am thrilled they at least try with some of the designs.
Starfleet ships, I gotta agree. The Shenzou looks like something from STOs launch, a weird temporal anomaly. I also agree on the Discovery, in this shot I like her okay especially since I discovered the Daedalus homage in the bridge module. The purple glow is also more accurate, a recent episode of Trekyards revealed that the glows on the TMP refit connie were always supposed to be purple - the camera filter made them blue. So this is actually more accurate, however contradicts what we actually saw I grant that (it's like green command uniform on TOS that looked gold in the finished shot).
Well, I didn't disagree that much I guess...
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I must disagree with your assessment of the ship designs, Artan. While the Shenzhou does somewhat resemble a Dervish-class, I can also see design callbacks to the NX-class in it (then again, the same is true of many of STO's Escorts).
How dare you disagree...
Yes there's a callback in shape, it's just the shaping of the nacelles, pylons, deflector, and bridge that look too advanced. ENT, Kelvin, and TOS era ships have very basic shapes. Pylons are straight lines, nacelles are cylindrical and only slightly tapered and deflectors are flat not angled.
I suppose it's like saying the Akira would work as a TOS era ship as it's reminiscent of the NX.
And that Klingon thing looks like someone found a half-decayed bird and covered it in cloisonne. I'm given hope in that some materials have implied it may be some sort of ceremonial craft, and that the regular Klingon fleet will bear a closer resemblance to their businesslike designs elsewhere, but this... this is not a warship.
I don't like the frilly look of the ship or the costumes, but they all seem to point to a ceremonial role not a combat one. It's mainly the fact they got the swept look correct that I liked.
However I have to disagree that any of the props or the ship resembles any kind of traditional Klingon visual.
It's not that they represent what we've seen before, it's more that they resemble a logical ancestor of what we've seen before. And not in a ENT stuff is like DS9 stuff way, like what we'd expect if ancient cultures built spaceships.
Seeing the "basic layout" of the TNG uniform in the first costume borders to trolling in my opinion
Really? It's an armoured looking tunic over a padded undershirt with gauntlets and an elaborate belt buckle, with a spiky motif. The fact that that description could be applied to either costume shows linked ascetics.
Same with the ship - not only is there a huge temporal difference between them, it's like looking at a Ford model T and saying "Yes, that's clearly Porsche design" because it's a car with four wheels and a steering wheel.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's a Klingon styled ship. Bulbous head, long neck, bulky aft, and wings (only here hunched up like a vulture and not spread like modern ships). It's clearly Klingon.
I'd have loved to see the excursion gear be an actual vest over the default uniform as that's exactly what I have in my head regarding necessary Starfleet equipment of that era.
Well you're in luck because I was wrong. The leather shoulders are on all the uniforms so I was probably mistaken about it being separate uniform style.
I agree with the medical uniform issue but I strongly disagree with your tricorder statement - I love it. I also love the communicator, it is like doing what I said all along - taking classic designs and updating their looks. For the show it should be irrelevant what we develop today, it's the prime universe timeline and the tech looked as it did even when visited from the future. You know I am a hard "no" for retcons, so I am thrilled they at least try with some of the designs.
All I can say here is 'we have automatic doors and iPads now'.
When we have a show in the 2000s or 2010s and it's showing technology we don't yet have (like warp drive or transporters) they can make the tech look like whatever they want. When it's something we have (like automatic doors and iPads) then the future shown has to show that too or it then runs the risk of not showing our future making the morality and social commentary meaningless as it's happening to fictional characters and not us.
True we don't have Tricorders yet but they're an active development and not a pipe dream like transporters and when they arrive they're going to resemble the NEM or ENT ones and not a small suitcase with no screen.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
I think the ship being destroyed there is in fact USS Europa - given that we saw something ripping through a hull labeled Europa as if it were made of an inferior grade of tissue paper.
I see the CGI for the USS Discovery still looks subpar in motion. It looked like the ship was sliding sideways right before going to warp... I guess that must be what the trailer meant about creating a new way to travel. I wonder if it would look better if they used physical models for glamour shots again.
The USS Shenzou is still very much an oddity for the time period. It clearly doesn't mesh with the TOS aesthetic, doesn't really work as a next step after ST:Enterprise, and doesn't even work in the Kelvinverse either. I really wonder what they were thinking when they made this ship model.
So the Klingon ship isn't just some old one off relic, but is part of a larger fleet of similar ships... I guess that undermines the theory of them being some random religious breakaway group that was forgotten about. We know from both TOS and TNG that Klingons traditionally don't tolerate the idea of colonial independence, so I fail to see how they would just let a fleet like this cruise around as a separate entity.
The biggest WTF moment I had though was seeing the Shenzou graffiti tagging a planet. What would compel a captain to even consider doing something that stupid.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Judging by the thumbnail, SMG has taken style tips from STO's latest addition to the roster of female hairstyles.
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Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
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I love it. Still bronze as well.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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That blade just looks Goth to me, and if the new Klingons turn out to be nu-Goths, well, I'd be disappointed. Here's hoping it was just a prop-forger's choice rather than a purposeful design element.
Heh, I find that my opinion of the Discovery changes with every other picture and angle I see it. Sometimes I think it isn't half bad, other days I completely despise it...
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Pity I doubt the showrunners thought of that one, but I like it anyway.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Don't like it? Go watch Starwars and Aliens....all the clunky shoe boxes you can find.
At the tip of the blade in the center of what should be a mark that shows the owner's house and his role and rank. The affiliation and rank of any warrior should be identifiable by the design on his blade.
Okay, on that basis I withdraw my complaint.
Both ENT and the KT showed a Tricorder far more in line with what we're actually developing nowadays, and as the Cage era Communicator with it's 60s transistors was ignored, so to should the TOS Tricorder with it's three buttons and a calculator sized screen.
I am very excited for this show now and I hope the next trailer is out soon. Maybe with a tad more than content from the first two episodes.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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the upper part of that costume reminds me a bit of an ancient egyptian neckpiece - like below, only not made of beads but with a weblike pattern that makes me think of something a priestess of Lolth might wear - a very interesting design overall
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
So much so, yes. It's shame it looks like they're ancestral Klingons after all this as they won't be reusing these costumes beyond this show at most and the first series at least.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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this is the same franchise that reuses assets to an excess that makes those old 50s shows like hogan's heroes look subdued
i have no worries that the basic design at least will continue to see use beyond discovery
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
The d'k tagh and disruptors look like they may have been designed by H.R. Giger; I hope these are specialized designs, like the uniform that's apparently House-specific, not a Klingon constant.
Also still not a fan of that colored steel rim around the Starfleet boot soles.
Which would be a good fit to the idea that Klingons reverse engineered their first ships from the hulls of the Hur'q. This ship might have an interesting history.
I do acknowledge the ancient Klingon designs looking good by themselves, it's fine craftsmanship and very detailed. It is a theme and what the deal with it is will be revealed in the show. However I have to disagree that any of the props or the ship resembles any kind of traditional Klingon visual. Seeing the "basic layout" of the TNG uniform in the first costume borders to trolling in my opinion
The Starfleet gear is too ENT for my taste. It looks like a logical evolution of it but it's simply not down my alley, but that's a matter of taste. I'd have loved to see the excursion gear be an actual vest over the default uniform as that's exactly what I have in my head regarding necessary Starfleet equipment of that era. I agree with the medical uniform issue but I strongly disagree with your tricorder statement - I love it. I also love the communicator, it is like doing what I said all along - taking classic designs and updating their looks. For the show it should be irrelevant what we develop today, it's the prime universe timeline and the tech looked as it did even when visited from the future. You know I am a hard "no" for retcons, so I am thrilled they at least try with some of the designs.
Starfleet ships, I gotta agree. The Shenzou looks like something from STOs launch, a weird temporal anomaly. I also agree on the Discovery, in this shot I like her okay especially since I discovered the Daedalus homage in the bridge module. The purple glow is also more accurate, a recent episode of Trekyards revealed that the glows on the TMP refit connie were always supposed to be purple - the camera filter made them blue. So this is actually more accurate, however contradicts what we actually saw I grant that (it's like green command uniform on TOS that looked gold in the finished shot).
Well, I didn't disagree that much I guess...
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How dare you disagree...
Yes there's a callback in shape, it's just the shaping of the nacelles, pylons, deflector, and bridge that look too advanced. ENT, Kelvin, and TOS era ships have very basic shapes. Pylons are straight lines, nacelles are cylindrical and only slightly tapered and deflectors are flat not angled.
I suppose it's like saying the Akira would work as a TOS era ship as it's reminiscent of the NX.
I don't like the frilly look of the ship or the costumes, but they all seem to point to a ceremonial role not a combat one. It's mainly the fact they got the swept look correct that I liked.
@angrytarg I don't know where people keep getting the idea they're allowed to disagree with me. My word is final and gospel...
It's not that they represent what we've seen before, it's more that they resemble a logical ancestor of what we've seen before. And not in a ENT stuff is like DS9 stuff way, like what we'd expect if ancient cultures built spaceships.
Really? It's an armoured looking tunic over a padded undershirt with gauntlets and an elaborate belt buckle, with a spiky motif. The fact that that description could be applied to either costume shows linked ascetics.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's a Klingon styled ship. Bulbous head, long neck, bulky aft, and wings (only here hunched up like a vulture and not spread like modern ships). It's clearly Klingon.
Well you're in luck because I was wrong. The leather shoulders are on all the uniforms so I was probably mistaken about it being separate uniform style.
All I can say here is 'we have automatic doors and iPads now'.
When we have a show in the 2000s or 2010s and it's showing technology we don't yet have (like warp drive or transporters) they can make the tech look like whatever they want. When it's something we have (like automatic doors and iPads) then the future shown has to show that too or it then runs the risk of not showing our future making the morality and social commentary meaningless as it's happening to fictional characters and not us.
True we don't have Tricorders yet but they're an active development and not a pipe dream like transporters and when they arrive they're going to resemble the NEM or ENT ones and not a small suitcase with no screen.
What about now
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I see the CGI for the USS Discovery still looks subpar in motion. It looked like the ship was sliding sideways right before going to warp... I guess that must be what the trailer meant about creating a new way to travel. I wonder if it would look better if they used physical models for glamour shots again.
The USS Shenzou is still very much an oddity for the time period. It clearly doesn't mesh with the TOS aesthetic, doesn't really work as a next step after ST:Enterprise, and doesn't even work in the Kelvinverse either. I really wonder what they were thinking when they made this ship model.
So the Klingon ship isn't just some old one off relic, but is part of a larger fleet of similar ships... I guess that undermines the theory of them being some random religious breakaway group that was forgotten about. We know from both TOS and TNG that Klingons traditionally don't tolerate the idea of colonial independence, so I fail to see how they would just let a fleet like this cruise around as a separate entity.
The biggest WTF moment I had though was seeing the Shenzou graffiti tagging a planet. What would compel a captain to even consider doing something that stupid.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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It's the USS Europa who rams the Klingon ship, not the Discovery. Pity, that ship looks great.
BTW Here's the trailer for everybody who doesn't live in the US (CBS had the trailer region locked
Judging by the thumbnail, SMG has taken style tips from STO's latest addition to the roster of female hairstyles.
Things I want in STO:
1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!