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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    I swear, the more I read here and see the slavish impulse to apply the minimum amount of imagination possible on parade, the happier I am that it's in the hands of someone who doesn't typically pander to the lowest common denominator.
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  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    This is the ship he wants to compare:
    jonsills wrote: »
    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg​​

    ANd this is the ship he's comparing it to:

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    See the problem with this comparison?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    only when you use the old concept art :p
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  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I can never remember the name of this Tier 6 ship class - but seriously, am I the only one who can see the resemblance here?

    I certainly see the resemblance, but maybe because a thing doesn't have to be 98% identical before I pick up on individual elements matching up quite a bit. Sure, wildly different secondary hulls, but the dish and boxy engines and their relative placement are certainly similar.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,766 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    This is the ship he wants to compare:
    jonsills wrote: »
    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg

    ANd this is the ship he's comparing it to:

    9793024_orig.jpg

    See the problem with this comparison?
    Yes, the problem with this comparison is that your exemplar is not one of the proposed designs for the Discovery. It's one of the proposed designs for the Enterprise refit for the scrapped "Phase II" series.

    Take the ship I showed. Flatten the hull a bit, shorten the neck, shrink the primary hull by about 25%, and paint it bronze. If you still don't see a resemblance, this may be because you don't want to see one.​​
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  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    move up one post and watch the teaser. It's the same ship as the illustration, with slight mod.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    This is the ship he wants to compare:
    jonsills wrote: »
    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg

    ANd this is the ship he's comparing it to:

    9793024_orig.jpg

    See the problem with this comparison?
    Yes, the problem with this comparison is that your exemplar is not one of the proposed designs for the Discovery. It's one of the proposed designs for the Enterprise refit for the scrapped "Phase II" series.

    Take the ship I showed. Flatten the hull a bit, shorten the neck, shrink the primary hull by about 25%, and paint it bronze. If you still don't see a resemblance, this may be because you don't want to see one.​​
    Not everyone sees the same things the same way... The detailing on the primary hull is similar, the boxiness of the nacelles, also similar, but the primary hull... sorry, but I'm not really seeing that similarity...
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    The hull is probably the main issue. Add in a saucer that is too small for that size hull and too far away from the hull to be practical, and you've mostly summed up the main problems people have with the ship. The hull isn't a standard Fed design - it's a klingon/Romulan one. Even the Defiant kept in line with Fed ships by including the saucer-shape 'style' incorporated into the center of the ship itself.
  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    I'll repost it so you don't have to hunt for them:
    wendysue53 wrote: »

    9793024_orig.jpg

    wendysue53 wrote: »

    wendysue53 wrote: »
    (...)watch the teaser. It's the same ship as the illustration, with slight mod.

  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    wendysue53 wrote: »
    I'll repost it so you don't have to hunt for them:
    wendysue53 wrote: »

    9793024_orig.jpg

    wendysue53 wrote: »

    wendysue53 wrote: »
    (...)watch the teaser. It's the same ship as the illustration, with slight mod.
    Yes, absolutely so. The picture I was refering to, that jonsills had posted, was of an STO ship of some sort, which ai really couldn't see any major similarity to either the McQuarrie art, or the Discovery, hense my confusion B)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,231 Arc User
    I like it. It's recognizable as Fed tech, yet very distinctly new.
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  • wendysue53wendysue53 Member Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    *deleted corny image* :P
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Nichelle Nichols is willing to do a role in Star Trek Discovery...

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-09-30/will-nichelle-nichols-be-in-star-trek-discovery


    And...

    A speculative article about Trek Timelines and what the new show could entail and/or create.

    https://www.inverse.com/article/21550-star-trek-discovery-timeline-issues

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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,951 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I can never remember the name of this Tier 6 ship class - but seriously, am I the only one who can see the resemblance here?

    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg​​

    When did they start making miniatures of STO ships?
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,766 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I can never remember the name of this Tier 6 ship class - but seriously, am I the only one who can see the resemblance here?

    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg

    When did they start making miniatures of STO ships?
    Cryptic and the 3D printing company are still finalizing details, but it was announced at the con in NY that they were working on a service that would let you get your ship (that is, the one you fixed up in the shipyard, with your ship's name and registry number proudly emblazoned on the hull) printed and sent to you. I'm guessing the fee would be something in the hundreds, at least.

    There's a thread about it somewhere in the news subforum.​​
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  • antonine3258antonine3258 Member Posts: 2,391 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    I can never remember the name of this Tier 6 ship class - but seriously, am I the only one who can see the resemblance here?

    Modern%20STO%20ship_zpsenhvvlmj.jpg

    When did they start making miniatures of STO ships?
    Cryptic and the 3D printing company are still finalizing details, but it was announced at the con in NY that they were working on a service that would let you get your ship (that is, the one you fixed up in the shipyard, with your ship's name and registry number proudly emblazoned on the hull) printed and sent to you. I'm guessing the fee would be something in the hundreds, at least.

    There's a thread about it somewhere in the news subforum.​​


    Here's the link: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10142383-new-shipyards-are-coming-online
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    George Takei pipes in on his thoughts about Star Trek: Discovery...
    (among other things)

    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-trek-discovery/news/a810515/george-takei-on-new-star-trek-films-discovery/

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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I have to agree, there was really no Roddenberry element in the new flicks.

    New KT Enterprise is from Beyond is seriously fugly too. Yeah, I said it. SD99D97.png​​

    There was none in DS9 either and that was awesome.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,005 Arc User
    Fuller stepped down as showrunner
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,964 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    that means the networks are TRIBBLE it up and he doesn't want his name attached to it anymore

    well, so much for the show being good

    (just getting all the gun-jumping and doom-glooming out of the way for everyone - i personally will probably still find it good...after all, i liked STV and the star wars holiday special, so they'd have to TRIBBLE it up SIGNIFICANTLY to get me to dislike it)​​
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    This is HUGE news...

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/bryan-fuller-showrunner-star-trek-discovery-cbs-1201901398/


    Too many things on Fuller's plate...

    He won't be active in day-to-day production now...

    Main Character not cast yet...

    While most other characters have been cast...

    CBS nervous about another possible delay...

    Episodes will be in the 6-7 million dollar range.



    Seems CBS hasn't got as much trust in Fuller as most of the rest of us do.

    IMO, CBS is pushing to get the thing done, and Fuller wanted to take it slow, to get it right.
    Also sounds like CBS isn't thrilled with Fuller's idea/creation for the main character being a Female and NOT the Captain.

    This could be the sticking point since they haven't agreed on an actor to fill the roll yet, while it's being reported that most of the rest of the cast is in place.

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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,766 Arc User
    that means the networks are **** it up and he doesn't want his name attached to it anymore
    No, it means that he's got five other projects under way simultaneously. He's still going to be working with the show, too - he's just not going to be running the show.​​
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 620 Arc User
    This series is becoming more and more of a trainwreck with every announcement. I'm starting to wonder if its even going to get produced at this point. Even if it does I wouldn't be surprised if it flops like an 80 year old without viagra. Its never a good thing when a showrunner jumps ship half a year before the series is set to air. Other commitments? Nothing he didn't already know about when he took the job, so thats a bs excuse. As for getting the request for ANOTHER release delay refused...well that should say quite a bit right there.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    that means the networks are **** it up and he doesn't want his name attached to it anymore
    No, it means that he's got five other projects under way simultaneously. He's still going to be working with the show, too - he's just not going to be running the show.​​

    Sounds to me, like someone who can see that the project is going to suck, doesn't want his name at the top of the 'who to blame' list, and is essentially using the old "I've got other things to do..." excuse, which is plausible enough to get swallowed by the rubes...
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,766 Arc User
    Did you read the article, Marcus? At the moment, Fuller is a) still working on ST:D, where he will continue in the writers' room (that's what "breaking stories" means), and will also remain as an executive producer; b) finishing work on production of an adaptation of Neil Gaiman's American Gods for the Starz cable network; and c) working on a reboot of Amazing Stories for NBC. That's three projects for three different networks - even without sleep, there's just not enough time to handle day-to-day duties on all three jobs. (And make no mistake, those would be three full-time jobs.)​​
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