'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
So tribble has a randomly spawning NPC on ESD wearing the JJ certain of the TOS uniform, with the name 0718.
There are other threads discussing the possibility of JJ content being added, but hypothetically if a T6 JJ-prise was added, how likely do you think it would be that such a ship would also have TOS, Refit, and Excalibur kitbash options?
You think this can be kitbashed? I know we are actually talking about the Excalibur/Exeter here, but they aren't that much larger than the TOS Connie, which means that a kitbash with JJprise parts will look... I'll be tactful and say odd.
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
So tribble has a randomly spawning NPC on ESD wearing the JJ certain of the TOS uniform, with the name 0718.
There are other threads discussing the possibility of JJ content being added, but hypothetically if a T6 JJ-prise was added, how likely do you think it would be that such a ship would also have TOS, Refit, and Excalibur kitbash options?
Something tells me we'll be hearing about both t6 constitutions and gambler's remorse featuring jjtrek... Im stocking up on pitchforks, torches and popcorn now... Imma be right rich if that goes down... and the fires will be visible from space
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
An even better source. The film itself. Scale a person from the bridge window and you get a ship slightly longer than the refit Conni. There is only one scene where it is scaled out of all proportion and that's the shuttle scene.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Are we really going to make this thread about whose a size queen and who isn't?
The Folks who made the JJ-Trek movies have spoken..., like it or not, Their ENTERPRISE is a Really BIG B*I*T*C*H of a S*H*I*P!
<chuckle>
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You think this can be kitbashed? I know we are actually talking about the Excalibur/Exeter here, but they aren't that much larger than the TOS Connie, which means that a kitbash with JJprise parts will look... I'll be tactful and say odd.
It's so weird, since it's obviously scaled from the exterior to be the same basic size.
An even better source. The film itself. Scale a person from the bridge window and you get a ship slightly longer than the refit Conni. There is only one scene where it is scaled out of all proportion and that's the shuttle scene.
True. Every bridge scene refutes the official numbers.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch." "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Passion and Serenity are one.
I gain power by understanding both.
In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
The Force is united within me.
BIG or small, it'll still be really cool to fly her in the game.
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
There are other threads discussing the possibility of JJ content being added, but hypothetically if a T6 JJ-prise was added, how likely do you think it would be that such a ship would also have TOS, Refit, and Excalibur kitbash options?
There's two big hurdles to overcome other than size mismatch (which might nix the idea on the spot...). First a new AR Enterprise might not be built on the same rig - it's quite similar, but the placement of the pylons might be incompatible with the current rig.
Second there's the very real possibility that Paramount would not want to see their version's image adulterated or altered in any way. They might be ok with it, but often licensed "guest" characters are locked tight even in games with rich character editors. Being able to play as it wouldn't automatically mean being able to break it down for parts.
You think this can be kitbashed? I know we are actually talking about the Excalibur/Exeter here, but they aren't that much larger than the TOS Connie, which means that a kitbash with JJprise parts will look... I'll be tactful and say odd.
Even if that is accurate, it could easily be done with a little scaling, it's not like we don't already have ships that are the wrong size ...
At what point did I mention shuttle bays? I spent a few seconds on google to find a size comparison image and it came up with that one.
Yeah. The bridge, windows, torpedo launchers, and deck layout says around 300 meters. The shuttle bay says, 725m.
"Rise like Lions after slumber, In unvanquishable number, Shake your chains to earth like dew, Which in sleep had fallen on you-Ye are many they are few"
It's so weird, since it's obviously scaled from the exterior to be the same basic size.
Yes, it is, because the model maker MADE A MISTAKE in assuming it would be the same size as the prime universe version and then was told otherwise too late to completely re-skin it.
And a boneheaded creator decision it was.
Call it what you like. The people that rule canon put the decision into the author's hands.
I'm not against it - I looked on google, found that ex adastra aspera or whatever it is site and they said that image is what is featured with the blu-ray. I'm not motivated to check any deeper than that really, if it said they were near enough the same size I'd support kitbashing...
I'm not against it - I looked on google, found that ex adastra aspera or whatever it is site and they said that image is what is featured with the blu-ray. I'm not motivated to check any deeper than that really, if it said they were near enough the same size I'd support kitbashing...
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No, he just got banned
You didn't have a grin prior? That's not how I pictured things in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Bite your tongue.
^this
There are other threads discussing the possibility of JJ content being added, but hypothetically if a T6 JJ-prise was added, how likely do you think it would be that such a ship would also have TOS, Refit, and Excalibur kitbash options?
You think this can be kitbashed? I know we are actually talking about the Excalibur/Exeter here, but they aren't that much larger than the TOS Connie, which means that a kitbash with JJprise parts will look... I'll be tactful and say odd.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Something tells me we'll be hearing about both t6 constitutions and gambler's remorse featuring jjtrek... Im stocking up on pitchforks, torches and popcorn now... Imma be right rich if that goes down... and the fires will be visible from space
A fan, even a respected one armed with all manner of logic, doesn't get to trump the express will of the author.
Got a source better than the thing that comes with the blu-ray?
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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<chuckle>
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It's so weird, since it's obviously scaled from the exterior to be the same basic size.
If only that was the creator's intention.
And a boneheaded creator decision it was. It'd still get merked by anything in the 24th century. Except in a race.
True. Every bridge scene refutes the official numbers.
onscreen is canon except when it grossly contradicts itself, producer comments are not
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
There's two big hurdles to overcome other than size mismatch (which might nix the idea on the spot...). First a new AR Enterprise might not be built on the same rig - it's quite similar, but the placement of the pylons might be incompatible with the current rig.
Second there's the very real possibility that Paramount would not want to see their version's image adulterated or altered in any way. They might be ok with it, but often licensed "guest" characters are locked tight even in games with rich character editors. Being able to play as it wouldn't automatically mean being able to break it down for parts.
Even if that is accurate, it could easily be done with a little scaling, it's not like we don't already have ships that are the wrong size ...
Yeah. The bridge, windows, torpedo launchers, and deck layout says around 300 meters. The shuttle bay says, 725m.
Yes, it is, because the model maker MADE A MISTAKE in assuming it would be the same size as the prime universe version and then was told otherwise too late to completely re-skin it.
Call it what you like. The people that rule canon put the decision into the author's hands.
TAKE YOUR TRIBBLE WAR OVER SIZE QUEENS ELSEWHERE
:P Hell my own response a few minutes ago was off topic...
THIS IS NOT A T6 CONNIE THREAD.
off topic this isn't about connies
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