No pilot mechanics or even a battle cloak with a 4/3 weapon layout? I was completely looking forward to dropping cash on this ship and now it's another swing and a miss from Cryptic. You guys are wasting Thomas's time designing new ship models.
None of the iconic ships have the T6 abilities of the Cryptic in-house designs nor as good of BOFF layouts. This is just the way they decided it should be, the ships from the shows are flatly inferior by design.
I'm not buying them as a result (although I may or may not use my monthly feebie Zen to get them- the starbase comes first).
Note: This at least is better than the poor T6 Excelsior. Not giving it a ENG Ensign instead of Universal was insult added to injury.
Is it not obvious yet that the spec specific ships get special abilities that are not shared with any other ships? I thought it was.
So because pilot ships came out before the Defiant then that is some law that says it must remain separate? Do you really think that the Defiant is not a pilot ship? It was THE pilot ship of Star Trek.
The stats for all 3 ships came out like I thought they would. They'll be good ships. I also had realistic expectations and not some of the high-fantasy dreams people had for the Defiant. I told you guys you were setting yourselves up for disappointment by expecting all these fancy, magical expectations for Defiant. You guys set yourselves up for that fall.
I'm not debating killing potential. I'm saying the pilot ship's are superior based on their pilot abilities, which can make the ship's invincible. If you believe that assessment is incorrect then please correct me with some facts as to why the defiant is superior.
That's a false dichotomy. Neither needs to be superior. They have different strengths. If you prefer one playstyle including piloting skills, then it would be superior to you (well, and to me, too, we're in the same boat here). That doesn't mean that others can't have a different approach. And yes, giving the Defiant basically the same build as the pilot escorts would not really broaden the possibilities of gameplay.
Apart from that, the question of buying a ship for performance alone - why should I do that actually? Yes, when I want to be top tier I robably have no choice. But then again, a ship can be a lot of fun even if it is not built to perfection. My Orion switched to the Marauder thanks to the giveaway. Does it even compare to the Samsar which is now sitting in dock? Not at all. Do I like the boff seating? Not really as much. Do I get the job done? Yes. Am I having fun? Yes. (Would I have paid for it? No - was thinking about it but decided against it)
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I don't see why people are ranting about the lack of "Pilot" abilities. Its not a Pilot Escort. Its a standard Escort. Just because one set of ships has a different mechanic doesn't mean suddenly that all ships of that type MUST have the shiny mechanic. Its like saying the Eclipse is superior to the Guardian because the Eclipse has the Gather Intel mechanic. The Pilot Escorts are like the Command Cruisers and Intel ships. They are a seperate branch of their respective ship family trees.
This doesn't mean that by default every ship must have the same mechanics. That defeats the purpose of having the ability to choose what we want to fly. Why make choices if something is SOOOOOOOOOO obviously superior that they should just cookie cutter it, slap a new look on it and say "Here you go! Something new" when in fact, its just the same ship you already own?
Makes no sense because you'd basically be forcing everyone to fly the exact same thing as everyone else, when STO is just SWIMMING in choices and diversity.
BTW... to the person who said Canon ships are inferior... We STILL have Scimitars running around that can pump out ridiculus DPS, and the Scimitar class is Canon. I'm pretty sure we still have some Aux2Batt Excelsiors out there too.
Hybrid Pilot seating would be enough for Escorts because they tend to be smaller. Doesn't mean they are absolutely required to have the maneuver mechanics.
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I don't see why people are ranting about the lack of "Pilot" abilities. Its not a Pilot Escort. Its a standard Escort. Just because one set of ships has a different mechanic doesn't mean suddenly that all ships of that type MUST have the shiny mechanic. Its like saying the Eclipse is superior to the Guardian because the Eclipse has the Gather Intel mechanic. The Pilot Escorts are like the Command Cruisers and Intel ships. They are a seperate branch of their respective ship family trees.
This doesn't mean that by default every ship must have the same mechanics. That defeats the purpose of having the ability to choose what we want to fly. Why make choices if something is SOOOOOOOOOO obviously superior that they should just cookie cutter it, slap a new look on it and say "Here you go! Something new" when in fact, its just the same ship you already own?
Makes no sense because you'd basically be forcing everyone to fly the exact same thing as everyone else, when STO is just SWIMMING in choices and diversity.
BTW... to the person who said Canon ships are inferior... We STILL have Scimitars running around that can pump out ridiculus DPS, and the Scimitar class is Canon. I'm pretty sure we still have some Aux2Batt Excelsiors out there too.
Hybrid Pilot seating would be enough for Escorts because they tend to be smaller. Doesn't mean they are absolutely required to have the maneuver mechanics.
I would have preferred Intel way over Pilot or Command for these ships. Coming out of cloaks with the damage bonus and having something like OSS+EPTW running? I say hell yes to that any day over the other Specs. But that's just me.
Cryptic wanted to move past outdated hero ships but people bitched so they gave us viable but not game breaking T6 versions. I applaud their restraint even if I find this particular one underwhelming considering the BOFF layout.
I might consider getting these if cryptic would allow people who purchased the old defiant be able to claim the quad cannons 4x and equip them. Don't over think it. It would be the right move.
Is it not obvious yet that the spec specific ships get special abilities that are not shared with any other ships? I thought it was.
So because pilot ships came out before the Defiant then that is some law that says it must remain separate? Do you really think that the Defiant is not a pilot ship? It was THE pilot ship of Star Trek.
It has nothing do with it coming out before. It has everything to do with that Intel, Pilot and Command ships all have abilities that no other ships has. That is the gimmick. The defiant is not a pilot ship in the way that STO categorizes ships. Its been a year of this, get used to it.
Is it not obvious yet that the spec specific ships get special abilities that are not shared with any other ships? I thought it was.
So because pilot ships came out before the Defiant then that is some law that says it must remain separate? Do you really think that the Defiant is not a pilot ship? It was THE pilot ship of Star Trek.
And exactly who was the "ace pilot officer" on that Defiant???
Meanwhile, as I look to the Delta Quadrant with a helmsman selected because of his "pilot" credentials...
Retrorefit T6 Pathfinder, please?
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I think it would have made sense once the pilot-scorts came out to give all following escorts access to those thrusters and maybe sometime in the future make them standard on T5+ escorts, afterall, the pilot-scorts are capable of standing on their stats.
Honestly though, they do need to give escorts their own thing now, cruisers have their auras which are unique, science ships have their secondary deflectors which are likewise unique, while it's true that escorts have DHCs, they're hardly unique now, most new cruisers and sci ships can mount them. Seems to me that with retro-thrusters already being a thing in game, it makes sense to enable them for all T5+ escorts, though perhaps not lower if only for continuity, if not then because up to T5 DHCs are still unique to escorts.
As for a battlecloak, it would have been nice for the Defiant 2 piece and it makes more sense than reducing the cooldown on the existing one but is it really worth it?
The stats for all 3 ships came out like I thought they would. They'll be good ships. I also had realistic expectations and not some of the high-fantasy dreams people had for the Defiant. I told you guys you were setting yourselves up for disappointment by expecting all these fancy, magical expectations for Defiant. You guys set yourselves up for that fall.
Having realistic expectations is a lost art on the internet I'm afraid Warmaker.
I think that they are fine. I love my torp bomber T'varo and look forward to using this one. That said, I feel that Intel would have been a better choice from the Romulan ship. Defiants and B'rels are quick and nimble, but T'varos are more methodical and sneaky. That is a minor thing though and not a complaint.
I don't see why people are ranting about the lack of "Pilot" abilities. Its not a Pilot Escort. Its a standard Escort. Just because one set of ships has a different mechanic doesn't mean suddenly that all ships of that type MUST have the shiny mechanic. Its like saying the Eclipse is superior to the Guardian because the Eclipse has the Gather Intel mechanic. The Pilot Escorts are like the Command Cruisers and Intel ships. They are a seperate branch of their respective ship family trees.
This doesn't mean that by default every ship must have the same mechanics. That defeats the purpose of having the ability to choose what we want to fly. Why make choices if something is SOOOOOOOOOO obviously superior that they should just cookie cutter it, slap a new look on it and say "Here you go! Something new" when in fact, its just the same ship you already own?
Makes no sense because you'd basically be forcing everyone to fly the exact same thing as everyone else, when STO is just SWIMMING in choices and diversity.
BTW... to the person who said Canon ships are inferior... We STILL have Scimitars running around that can pump out ridiculus DPS, and the Scimitar class is Canon. I'm pretty sure we still have some Aux2Batt Excelsiors out there too.
Hybrid Pilot seating would be enough for Escorts because they tend to be smaller. Doesn't mean they are absolutely required to have the maneuver mechanics.
I would have preferred Intel way over Pilot or Command for these ships. Coming out of cloaks with the damage bonus and having something like OSS+EPTW running? I say hell yes to that any day over the other Specs. But that's just me.
I would have liked Intel too for a more science-y b'rel.
I think it would have made sense once the pilot-scorts came out to give all following escorts access to those thrusters and maybe sometime in the future make them standard on T5+ escorts, afterall, the pilot-scorts are capable of standing on their stats.
Honestly though, they do need to give escorts their own thing now, cruisers have their auras which are unique, science ships have their secondary deflectors which are likewise unique, while it's true that escorts have DHCs, they're hardly unique now, most new cruisers and sci ships can mount them. Seems to me that with retro-thrusters already being a thing in game, it makes sense to enable them for all T5+ escorts, though perhaps not lower if only for continuity, if not then because up to T5 DHCs are still unique to escorts.
As for a battlecloak, it would have been nice for the Defiant 2 piece and it makes more sense than reducing the cooldown on the existing one but is it really worth it?
Escorts have +10% defence. They were actually the first ships to get something "special."
While I always hope Cryptic would rethink its decision I understand from a business point of view that the C-Store ships that are Cryptic designs get the better traits, Ship abilities and consoles. Most canon ships will get the base upgrade to T6 with some ok traits and consoles. You buy their stuff for the additional ship abilities and you buy canon because you really want the look of a classic Star Trek ship. I find myself torn as I do like to get ships because they are effective but I also like having a classic Star Trek Design.
Now as for the Valiant I am not surprised one bit at the boff layout, and now confirmed, it has no special ship abilities. It follows the above rule I mentioned. It would hurt the sales of the Pilot Ships if it had those ship powers. But I am also disappointed as I am sure a lot of players are. The Defiant is THE canon tactical ship that would have been amazing flying around using the Pilot Maneuvers. So right now I can honestly say that the Valiant does not have enough to persuade me to put 3000 zen on a T6 version of the Defiant when I have the Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit T5U which will be getting a nice visual update with this release.
I find all Romulan ships to be squishy so the Malem at this point is not very appealing. The Kor on the other hand is the one ship I have nothing like for my KDF character (I do not own any Pilot KDF ships). So maybe in the future this may be a purchase I would consider making but for now after purchasing the Dreadnought bundle and buying and selling Keys to get the Herald Quas I am running a bit flat on funds. In addition I am now trying to grind for the Herald Baltim so these ships may have to wait a long while.
The T6 Defiant is exactly what people should have expected it to be. T6 variants are not overpowered compared to their T5 counterparts, so the boff, weapon, console, etc layout is rarely - if ever - that different from the originals. It's an incremental stats update paired with a visual overhaul to the original, as well as chance to play with the design.
Feds don't have intergrated cloak, with the exception of the one-off Intel ships. And any ships with specialization seats that aren't the specifically-designed specialization ships don't get the unique abilities. Complaining that the T6 Defiant doesn't have either of those is ridiculous. At no point was there ever any indication that the Defiant was going to get the kind of things that no other T6 refit has received.
The T6 Defiant isn't a fail. It's only a fail if you unrealistically expected it to be an 'everything' ship that eclipses the game mechanics and ignored the ship stat trends.
Certainly for top end performance I wouldn't buy this but I will be, it's comparable to my existing FPER, I'm only really considering it because it follows a similar design principle to that of the FPER, although for the sake of completeness I might give serious consideration to the DS9 pack.
I think the Trait sounds like a potential home run, it could make this ship the new standard for Cannon Escort pilots.
I do however, agree that Pilot Mechanics should be standard on all escorts. The Pilot Maneuvers are a great idea and they really serve to set Escorts apart as a class. I understand why they're not on the Defiant, I just personally disagree with the idea. I think they should be on every Escort as a standard practice.. but that's just me.
Ultimately, if I were a Cannon Escort Captain, I would buy the Defiant, level it up and get the trait then jump in a Pilot Escort with 5 front facing cannons and pilot maneuvers. Ultimately, between the number of people that want the Defiant, and those that want the trait, I predict this ship will be a big seller.
I would have preferred Intel way over Pilot or Command for these ships. Coming out of cloaks with the damage bonus and having something like OSS+EPTW running? I say hell yes to that any day over the other Specs. But that's just me.
All of them are really torpedo boats under the guise of cannon boats (2 of which can fire while cloaked). I love the irony. Now here's hoping that the console torps also proc with Kemocite.
Unrelated, but my tank of schadenfreude is overflowing. Expecting anything drastically different from what they've done in the past with Iconic ships since the Pathfinder was delusional at best.
T6 versions of existing T5s are not going to break any new grounds compared to Specialist ships or new and original but unspecialized ships. You get 1 more Boff seat, 1 Hybrid station, and in some cases, better HP than specialized or original ships.
The only ships that might be the lone exception are the Flagships; but that's only if they do it right (they should be the only ships to feature a true Hybrid Universal/Universal Spec seating on their existing Universals; also upping the LtCmdr Universals to full Cmdr just to round it out as befitting a Flagship). Of course, I don't actually expect Cryptic to do it right at all for the T6 Flagships.
Some people must not have ever watched DS9. The Defiant and the BOP was MADE for Pilot maneuvers. In practically every battle episode the defiant/BOP was doing barrel rolls and other fancy piloting maneuvers.
Its mind boggling people can be so dense as to thinking the defiant didnt need pilot maneuvers. The Battle cloak i can live without, stock defiants in canon don't have cloaks, but the lack of pilot stuff makes it a epic fail.
My (tongue-in-cheek) impression of the majority of the above posts: "Waah! I can't blow up more stuff faster than before without taking risks. I wanna kill things and steal loot and not get hurt! Gimme, gimme, gimme, I want, I want, I want."
Maybe it's my background, being raised on old-school pen-and-paper RPGs... maybe it's because I never really got hooked on MMOs (STO being the sole exception)... or maybe, I'm in the minority being that I prefer story, immersion, and suspension-of-disbelief over mix-maxxing, stat counting, and DPS parsing. IMO, if that's where your interest lies, you should probably be playing an FPS instead.
In a perfect world (meaning that imaginary place where I got everything I ever wanted exactly how I wanted it, not the company) all the numbers would be hidden from the player... You'd get a percentage for shield strength and hull integrity, but wouldn't know 70% of 4400 or 5600. You'd know that High Yield Torpedo gives you a "medium-to-large damage increase" but wouldn't know that it's +108%x1 for HYT1 and +55.5%x4 for HYT3. You'd know that the slower, targetable torps do more damage than the faster ones... but wouldn't know the number of HPs dealt per hit. That way, you (the player) can just play the game, enjoy the story, and immerse yourself in the imaginary world of Star Trek instead of sweating the small stuff.
But... if you REALLY want to fix all those nit-picky little things you just don't like because you're cranky, update your resume', send it to Cryptic, and pray that they have a spot open on the Dev team. Until then, chill out. You like the T6 Defiant? Great, tell the Dev's "thanks". Don't like it? Don't get it and keep running your pilot ships. It's that simple.
My (tongue-in-cheek) impression of the majority of the above posts: "Waah! I can't blow up more stuff faster than before without taking risks. I wanna kill things and steal loot and not get hurt! Gimme, gimme, gimme, I want, I want, I want."
Maybe it's my background, being raised on old-school pen-and-paper RPGs... maybe it's because I never really got hooked on MMOs (STO being the sole exception)... or maybe, I'm in the minority being that I prefer story, immersion, and suspension-of-disbelief over mix-maxxing, stat counting, and DPS parsing. IMO, if that's where your interest lies, you should probably be playing an FPS instead.
In a perfect world (meaning that imaginary place where I got everything I ever wanted exactly how I wanted it, not the company) all the numbers would be hidden from the player... You'd get a percentage for shield strength and hull integrity, but wouldn't know 70% of 4400 or 5600. You'd know that High Yield Torpedo gives you a "medium-to-large damage increase" but wouldn't know that it's +108%x1 for HYT1 and +55.5%x4 for HYT3. You'd know that the slower, targetable torps do more damage than the faster ones... but wouldn't know the number of HPs dealt per hit. That way, you (the player) can just play the game, enjoy the story, and immerse yourself in the imaginary world of Star Trek instead of sweating the small stuff.
But... if you REALLY want to fix all those nit-picky little things you just don't like because you're cranky, update your resume', send it to Cryptic, and pray that they have a spot open on the Dev team. Until then, chill out. You like the T6 Defiant? Great, tell the Dev's "thanks". Don't like it? Don't get it and keep running your pilot ships. It's that simple.
Cheers,
--RG
lets face it. there are people out there who if you made Defiant Integrated battle cloak, 6 tac 4 eng and 4 sci console, universal CDR/pilot universal CDR/intel universal CDR/command and 1 Eng,tac sci LCDR each, , 6/3 weapons 60,000 hull 400,000 shield HP 3.3 shield mod and a turn rate of 60 and they would still whine that it's not powerful enough
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None of the iconic ships have the T6 abilities of the Cryptic in-house designs nor as good of BOFF layouts. This is just the way they decided it should be, the ships from the shows are flatly inferior by design.
I'm not buying them as a result (although I may or may not use my monthly feebie Zen to get them- the starbase comes first).
Note: This at least is better than the poor T6 Excelsior. Not giving it a ENG Ensign instead of Universal was insult added to injury.
That's a false dichotomy. Neither needs to be superior. They have different strengths. If you prefer one playstyle including piloting skills, then it would be superior to you (well, and to me, too, we're in the same boat here). That doesn't mean that others can't have a different approach. And yes, giving the Defiant basically the same build as the pilot escorts would not really broaden the possibilities of gameplay.
Apart from that, the question of buying a ship for performance alone - why should I do that actually? Yes, when I want to be top tier I robably have no choice. But then again, a ship can be a lot of fun even if it is not built to perfection. My Orion switched to the Marauder thanks to the giveaway. Does it even compare to the Samsar which is now sitting in dock? Not at all. Do I like the boff seating? Not really as much. Do I get the job done? Yes. Am I having fun? Yes. (Would I have paid for it? No - was thinking about it but decided against it)
This doesn't mean that by default every ship must have the same mechanics. That defeats the purpose of having the ability to choose what we want to fly. Why make choices if something is SOOOOOOOOOO obviously superior that they should just cookie cutter it, slap a new look on it and say "Here you go! Something new" when in fact, its just the same ship you already own?
Makes no sense because you'd basically be forcing everyone to fly the exact same thing as everyone else, when STO is just SWIMMING in choices and diversity.
BTW... to the person who said Canon ships are inferior... We STILL have Scimitars running around that can pump out ridiculus DPS, and the Scimitar class is Canon. I'm pretty sure we still have some Aux2Batt Excelsiors out there too.
Hybrid Pilot seating would be enough for Escorts because they tend to be smaller. Doesn't mean they are absolutely required to have the maneuver mechanics.
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I would have preferred Intel way over Pilot or Command for these ships. Coming out of cloaks with the damage bonus and having something like OSS+EPTW running? I say hell yes to that any day over the other Specs. But that's just me.
It has nothing do with it coming out before. It has everything to do with that Intel, Pilot and Command ships all have abilities that no other ships has. That is the gimmick. The defiant is not a pilot ship in the way that STO categorizes ships. Its been a year of this, get used to it.
And exactly who was the "ace pilot officer" on that Defiant???
Meanwhile, as I look to the Delta Quadrant with a helmsman selected because of his "pilot" credentials...
Retrorefit T6 Pathfinder, please?
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Honestly though, they do need to give escorts their own thing now, cruisers have their auras which are unique, science ships have their secondary deflectors which are likewise unique, while it's true that escorts have DHCs, they're hardly unique now, most new cruisers and sci ships can mount them. Seems to me that with retro-thrusters already being a thing in game, it makes sense to enable them for all T5+ escorts, though perhaps not lower if only for continuity, if not then because up to T5 DHCs are still unique to escorts.
As for a battlecloak, it would have been nice for the Defiant 2 piece and it makes more sense than reducing the cooldown on the existing one but is it really worth it?
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Having realistic expectations is a lost art on the internet I'm afraid Warmaker.
I would have liked Intel too for a more science-y b'rel.
Escorts have +10% defence. They were actually the first ships to get something "special."
Now as for the Valiant I am not surprised one bit at the boff layout, and now confirmed, it has no special ship abilities. It follows the above rule I mentioned. It would hurt the sales of the Pilot Ships if it had those ship powers. But I am also disappointed as I am sure a lot of players are. The Defiant is THE canon tactical ship that would have been amazing flying around using the Pilot Maneuvers. So right now I can honestly say that the Valiant does not have enough to persuade me to put 3000 zen on a T6 version of the Defiant when I have the Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit T5U which will be getting a nice visual update with this release.
I find all Romulan ships to be squishy so the Malem at this point is not very appealing. The Kor on the other hand is the one ship I have nothing like for my KDF character (I do not own any Pilot KDF ships). So maybe in the future this may be a purchase I would consider making but for now after purchasing the Dreadnought bundle and buying and selling Keys to get the Herald Quas I am running a bit flat on funds. In addition I am now trying to grind for the Herald Baltim so these ships may have to wait a long while.
I hope anyone who buys them enjoys them greatly!
Feds don't have intergrated cloak, with the exception of the one-off Intel ships. And any ships with specialization seats that aren't the specifically-designed specialization ships don't get the unique abilities. Complaining that the T6 Defiant doesn't have either of those is ridiculous. At no point was there ever any indication that the Defiant was going to get the kind of things that no other T6 refit has received.
The T6 Defiant isn't a fail. It's only a fail if you unrealistically expected it to be an 'everything' ship that eclipses the game mechanics and ignored the ship stat trends.
I think the Trait sounds like a potential home run, it could make this ship the new standard for Cannon Escort pilots.
I do however, agree that Pilot Mechanics should be standard on all escorts. The Pilot Maneuvers are a great idea and they really serve to set Escorts apart as a class. I understand why they're not on the Defiant, I just personally disagree with the idea. I think they should be on every Escort as a standard practice.. but that's just me.
Ultimately, if I were a Cannon Escort Captain, I would buy the Defiant, level it up and get the trait then jump in a Pilot Escort with 5 front facing cannons and pilot maneuvers. Ultimately, between the number of people that want the Defiant, and those that want the trait, I predict this ship will be a big seller.
Yes, 100% this.
It should have been an Intel Ship.
Unrelated, but my tank of schadenfreude is overflowing. Expecting anything drastically different from what they've done in the past with Iconic ships since the Pathfinder was delusional at best.
T6 versions of existing T5s are not going to break any new grounds compared to Specialist ships or new and original but unspecialized ships. You get 1 more Boff seat, 1 Hybrid station, and in some cases, better HP than specialized or original ships.
The only ships that might be the lone exception are the Flagships; but that's only if they do it right (they should be the only ships to feature a true Hybrid Universal/Universal Spec seating on their existing Universals; also upping the LtCmdr Universals to full Cmdr just to round it out as befitting a Flagship). Of course, I don't actually expect Cryptic to do it right at all for the T6 Flagships.
Its mind boggling people can be so dense as to thinking the defiant didnt need pilot maneuvers. The Battle cloak i can live without, stock defiants in canon don't have cloaks, but the lack of pilot stuff makes it a epic fail.
Maybe it's my background, being raised on old-school pen-and-paper RPGs... maybe it's because I never really got hooked on MMOs (STO being the sole exception)... or maybe, I'm in the minority being that I prefer story, immersion, and suspension-of-disbelief over mix-maxxing, stat counting, and DPS parsing. IMO, if that's where your interest lies, you should probably be playing an FPS instead.
In a perfect world (meaning that imaginary place where I got everything I ever wanted exactly how I wanted it, not the company) all the numbers would be hidden from the player... You'd get a percentage for shield strength and hull integrity, but wouldn't know 70% of 4400 or 5600. You'd know that High Yield Torpedo gives you a "medium-to-large damage increase" but wouldn't know that it's +108%x1 for HYT1 and +55.5%x4 for HYT3. You'd know that the slower, targetable torps do more damage than the faster ones... but wouldn't know the number of HPs dealt per hit. That way, you (the player) can just play the game, enjoy the story, and immerse yourself in the imaginary world of Star Trek instead of sweating the small stuff.
But... if you REALLY want to fix all those nit-picky little things you just don't like because you're cranky, update your resume', send it to Cryptic, and pray that they have a spot open on the Dev team. Until then, chill out. You like the T6 Defiant? Great, tell the Dev's "thanks". Don't like it? Don't get it and keep running your pilot ships. It's that simple.
Cheers,
--RG
lets face it. there are people out there who if you made Defiant Integrated battle cloak, 6 tac 4 eng and 4 sci console, universal CDR/pilot universal CDR/intel universal CDR/command and 1 Eng,tac sci LCDR each, , 6/3 weapons 60,000 hull 400,000 shield HP 3.3 shield mod and a turn rate of 60 and they would still whine that it's not powerful enough