...cycle ad nauseum with C-Store and Event ships in order to fill their lineup... especially with KDF and Rom players trying to find a decent SciShip lineup. By ensuring a single class grants a single Admiralty Card, it prevents this strategy.
It is important to note that Mirror, standard, Refit, Retrofit, Fleet, etc. variants are considered distinct ships, so you could have an Assault Cruiser ("Freebie"/Dil Sink = Common), Mirror Star Cruiser (Sovereign skin, irc) (Mirror = Uncommon), Assault Cruiser Refit (C-Store = Rare), and Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit (Fleet = Very Rare) for an array of "Sovereigns". Admiralty Cards show the default skins, though, so the Assault Cruiser Refit will likely be a Regent instead... and the Fleet is, well, something.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
IIRC the "Mirror Sovereign" is actually called a "Mirror Star Cruiser", while the "Mirror Assault Cruiser" has the Sentinel/Vanguard/Emissary skin. Not sure if that's a typo there.
But I get the point. Thx for clearing it up!
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Makes one think why not just increase the cap on ship-slots or something? Then again, slap on it some unlockable account-wide drydock slots, and I'll throw zen at you ;-)
Edit: Oh, I see now. Turning a ship into a ship-claim token will certainly take less space in the database, than storing a ship + costume options + equip + loadouts and stuff. Carry on then ;-)
Can ships stored be used in admiral system? or that be just sloted ships.
Normally, as long as ships are registered once in the admirality list, you can discard, store, throw into a star, blow them up if you wish, they'll still be in the list.
Makes one think why not just increase the cap on ship-slots or something? Then again, slap on it some unlockable account-wide drydock slots, and I'll throw zen at you ;-)
I'm wondering if you read the thre-oh wait. That rarely happens. Short version. Drydock means less lag than more ship slots
"Exciting" is a bit of a stretch, but it's nice. QUESTION: Will we have access to Admiralty versions of ships in Dry Dock? I know we'll be granted Admiralty cards when we first open the DOff menu, but assuming we have Dry Dockd a ship BEFORE that, will we have access to it?
Can ships stored be used in admiral system? or that be just sloted ships.
The admiralty system is completely separate from the main game. If you have a ship in a slot, and go to the admiralty screen, you get an Admiralty "card" for that ship permanently. It doesn't matter what you do with the ship after you claim the card for it (drydock, delete, leave it in a slot forever), the Admiralty system will never be affected.
IIRC the "Mirror Sovereign" is actually called a "Mirror Star Cruiser", while the "Mirror Assault Cruiser" has the Sentinel/Vanguard/Emissary skin. Not sure if that's a typo there.
But I get the point. Thx for clearing it up!
It's intentional... I was hinging my references off of the "Sovereign" part of your post rather than the "assault cruiser" part. The ships I listed are the ones capable of using the Sovereign skin.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
Now this is a nice addition to the game. Wish they came up with this ages ago.
Though I'm curious:
1) Will there be ship storage limits? Or is it unlimited?
2) Can you return a ship to Dry Dock immediately after bringing it back to service?
3) Will they add an card claim for stored ships? Or it's simpler to call it back to action then restore it after you get the card?
Also, why "Dry Docking"? Why not call it a "Reserve Fleet"? Since this what the Navy does when they decommission ships, they effectively put it into storage where it could be called back into action or scraped. And then all you have to do is rename the current decommissioning in the ship dismissal process and change it to - scrapping.
Am I the only who saw the Drydock picture with the subject and thought, "Finally, a docking mechanic...to visually dock and launch my active starship in Star Trek film fashion!" ?
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Also, why "Dry Docking"? Why not call it "decommissioning"? Since this what the Navy does when they decomission ships, they effectively put it into storage where it could be called back into action or scraped. And then all you have to do is rename the current decommissioning in the ship dismissal process and change it to - scrapping.
Because not everyone knows proper naval terminology, and it's a very good idea to make "put it away for a while, the gear is in your inventory" and "destroy forever, with all the gear, no refunds" options as distinctive as possible?
Nice feature, but having to re-customize will keep me from using it. Come on, if you can store loadouts and earned ship mastery, store ship customization too.
I don't get it .. what is the difference between dry-docked and ship selector?
Dry Dock is a new system where you can "bank" ships. It allows you to store ships you'd otherwise need to ditch in order to free up a Ship Slot, hopefully convincing you to buy more Dry Dock space and ships to keep in your actual Ship Slots. The idea, from the company's perspective, is to give you something new to spend money on if you were someone that wouldn't buy Ship Slots and/or wouldn't buy ships if you didn't have an available Ship Slot or an old ship you were willing to throw away.
Ships on your current Ship Selector list can also be swapped in/out in Sector Space, and will remain capable of this after Dry Dock is added.
Ships in Dry Dock, however, will be inaccessible from Sector Space, etc. until you pull them out of Dry Dock via the Ship Selector NPC contact.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
I don't get it .. what is the difference between dry-docked and ship selector?
Ship selector means the ship remains in an operational readiness state, whereas Dry-docked means the ship is mothballed so work needs to be done to restore operational status.
so basically its a way to monetize the reclaim system we already have . cuz you know there is going to be slots for zen attached to this , the only thing the current reclaim system cant do that this can is keep track of lockbox and fleet ships , so basically the devs rather made up a whole system to monetize it rather than add them to the reclaim system they just implemented for event ships HMM
I am in full support of this especially if implemented as suggested by dirlwttia, allowing us to move ships as account bound items through the drydock system!
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@szim The purpose of the Drydock feature is to allow you to keep your ships owned, and you can't reclaim discharged ships WITHOUT having to pay for it again. The main focus of the Drydock Feature is for long-term storage of ships you aren't using on a long-term basis. For example, if you stopped using a ship that is no longer applicable, you can store it drydock for long-term or to await loadout refits. And when you drydock a ship, it frees up a ship selection slot for you to buy another ship for use. That's the purpose.
Does that mean that the C-ships are not reclaimable anymore?
@szim The purpose of the Drydock feature is to allow you to keep your ships owned, and you can't reclaim discharged ships WITHOUT having to pay for it again. The main focus of the Drydock Feature is for long-term storage of ships you aren't using on a long-term basis. For example, if you stopped using a ship that is no longer applicable, you can store it drydock for long-term or to await loadout refits. And when you drydock a ship, it frees up a ship selection slot for you to buy another ship for use. That's the purpose.
Also does that mean that the event ships no longer will be reclaimable?
Dry Docking is an exciting new feature which allows you to store your hard-earned ships for the long term with the convenience of a few clicks, opening up Ship Slots!
Dry Docking is an exciting new feature which allows you to store your hard-earned ships for the long term with the convenience of a few clicks, opening up Ship Slots!
I think flyingtarg said that it will actually be a little after Season 11 comes out...
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Also, why "Dry Docking"? Why not call it "decommissioning"? Since this what the Navy does when they decomission ships, they effectively put it into storage where it could be called back into action or scraped. And then all you have to do is rename the current decommissioning in the ship dismissal process and change it to - scrapping.
Because not everyone knows proper naval terminology, and it's a very good idea to make "put it away for a while, the gear is in your inventory" and "destroy forever, with all the gear, no refunds" options as distinctive as possible?
I think people are more intelligent than you believe they are. People easily know what the difference is between decomissioning and scrapping. Especially for Star Trek fans.
That is why I ask for Cryptic to think about changing the terminology to fit it's more canonical standpoint.
Am I the only who saw the Drydock picture with the subject and thought, "Finally, a docking mechanic...to visually dock and launch my active starship in Star Trek film fashion!" ?
No you are not the only one. I had the same thought,..
Hey! I just want to keep my ships safe, not have zealous engineers ruin the paintjob and overexcited mechanics touch the nacelles in inappropriate places!
Can I execute/dismiss them if they change my ship while I'm not watching? Careful, as a fleet admiral, I have friends in the highest ranks, I'm not just any captain!
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You get one Admrialty Card per ship class. Had they not done this, an ungodly amount of server space would have been taken up by players using a...
claim->get Admiralty Card->dismiss->claim->get Admiralty Card->dismiss->claim->get Admiralty Card->dismiss
...cycle ad nauseum with C-Store and Event ships in order to fill their lineup... especially with KDF and Rom players trying to find a decent SciShip lineup. By ensuring a single class grants a single Admiralty Card, it prevents this strategy.It is important to note that Mirror, standard, Refit, Retrofit, Fleet, etc. variants are considered distinct ships, so you could have an Assault Cruiser ("Freebie"/Dil Sink = Common), Mirror Star Cruiser (Sovereign skin, irc) (Mirror = Uncommon), Assault Cruiser Refit (C-Store = Rare), and Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit (Fleet = Very Rare) for an array of "Sovereigns". Admiralty Cards show the default skins, though, so the Assault Cruiser Refit will likely be a Regent instead... and the Fleet is, well, something.
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But I get the point. Thx for clearing it up!
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"To boldly go to the stars on the wings of the faithful."
Edit: Oh, I see now. Turning a ship into a ship-claim token will certainly take less space in the database, than storing a ship + costume options + equip + loadouts and stuff. Carry on then ;-)
I'm wondering if you read the thre-oh wait. That rarely happens. Short version. Drydock means less lag than more ship slots
The admiralty system is completely separate from the main game. If you have a ship in a slot, and go to the admiralty screen, you get an Admiralty "card" for that ship permanently. It doesn't matter what you do with the ship after you claim the card for it (drydock, delete, leave it in a slot forever), the Admiralty system will never be affected.
It's intentional... I was hinging my references off of the "Sovereign" part of your post rather than the "assault cruiser" part. The ships I listed are the ones capable of using the Sovereign skin.
Though I'm curious:
1) Will there be ship storage limits? Or is it unlimited?
2) Can you return a ship to Dry Dock immediately after bringing it back to service?
3) Will they add an card claim for stored ships? Or it's simpler to call it back to action then restore it after you get the card?
Also, why "Dry Docking"? Why not call it a "Reserve Fleet"? Since this what the Navy does when they decommission ships, they effectively put it into storage where it could be called back into action or scraped. And then all you have to do is rename the current decommissioning in the ship dismissal process and change it to - scrapping.
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Dry Dock is a new system where you can "bank" ships. It allows you to store ships you'd otherwise need to ditch in order to free up a Ship Slot, hopefully convincing you to buy more Dry Dock space and ships to keep in your actual Ship Slots. The idea, from the company's perspective, is to give you something new to spend money on if you were someone that wouldn't buy Ship Slots and/or wouldn't buy ships if you didn't have an available Ship Slot or an old ship you were willing to throw away.
Ships on your current Ship Selector list can also be swapped in/out in Sector Space, and will remain capable of this after Dry Dock is added.
Ships in Dry Dock, however, will be inaccessible from Sector Space, etc. until you pull them out of Dry Dock via the Ship Selector NPC contact.
Ship selector means the ship remains in an operational readiness state, whereas Dry-docked means the ship is mothballed so work needs to be done to restore operational status.
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Does that mean that the C-ships are not reclaimable anymore?
Also does that mean that the event ships no longer will be reclaimable?
Will this be part of the Season 11 update?
I think flyingtarg said that it will actually be a little after Season 11 comes out...
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
I think people are more intelligent than you believe they are. People easily know what the difference is between decomissioning and scrapping. Especially for Star Trek fans.
That is why I ask for Cryptic to think about changing the terminology to fit it's more canonical standpoint.
No you are not the only one. I had the same thought,..
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