i say they should take the saucer section from design Alpha the engineering hull from design Theta and the warp naceles from design delta as that would be a carrier that would truly stand apart from all others out there as most are just moveable bricks so that design i feel would give it some manouverabilty
@pwelaughingtrendy -- I would love a combi of the oddy and galaxy! I have no skill in drawing a model so I will leave it up to the artists imaginations
Definitely Omega for me, too. It reminds me of the Jupiter, but maybe in more aethetically pleasing. They should make the saucer higher, however, to resemble it more.
I never liked the Jupiter much. The 4 nacelle look is better for a carrier, so Omega works, but the Jupiter looks like it flew through a vice and always struck me as kind of bizzarre. I avoided it just because of the look.
Battlecarriers aren't particularily small, but I'd still choose Gamma over Omega.
The Original Jupiter is ugly, and I think objectively so, because some parts are really just badly modelled. Aside from that, the nacelle design and positioning is terrible, and I think those cylindric parts in the saucer section look nonsensical.
But there are parts that I liked and make me think a good designer with a reasonable amount of design time (instead what I imagine a last-minute-crunch-time-mad-dash-for-release design time) could make it look good.
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I'd like to see more drones, rather than flying coffins. The Iconians have basically set the example of using drones offensively during the Iconian War. And we already have the Obelisk Swarmers.
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I would rather they redesign the pets to be more useful instead introducing new ones that replace all the previously used.
I will vote for Sigma.
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Starfleet carrier. Yeah, I knew we'd go down the drain at some point
If any of these designs, Delta. It's round. I like round.
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"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Espilon and Omega are very close by their saucer. But i prefer Epsilon hull. If i could choose, i gather saucer and hull of Epsilon and nacells of Gamma.
it will be my version of the Jupiter class. I agree the orignal design need a revamp. ;)
how about instead of a fed ship we make a kdf or rom ship feds already have to many
Clearly, if this works, we would be able to extend it to the Romulans and KDF. Instead of complaining, you could help make sure it's successful, which would mean more KDF and Rom stuff down the line.
Far as the actual designs, Omega and Gamma are the most viable as a carrier to me, their large saucers meaning more hangar space. I would like to see them both act as variants of the same ship, allowing people to mix and match their parts, meaning more customisation, and more people are happy with what they get, no-one loses in that scenario.
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While my GF likes the Sigma overall, I prefer Omega.
And no, it's not because of the Jupiter similarities. To me, the overall feel of the Omega just seems right, save the nacelles. Now if the nacelle/pylon set-up of the Beta can be duplicated and used on the Omega, then I would find it just fine. But then again, none of the nacelles seem just right to be for some reason.
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Alpha is looking my favourite right now, and I hope it turns out tac oriented too, I've been yearning after a Jem'hadar dreadnought carrier, and a Fed ship similar to that would be absolutely perfect for me. Carriers are a great amount of fun for me, so I'll probably buy this ship regardless.
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"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Oh come on, the round things have a variety of uses, some are scanner monitors, some are access panels, some are scanners, some are storage lockers. I've no idea why 10 and 11 forgot what they used to use them for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
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So Finaly we will get a Starfleet Design FED Carrier ey? i was waiting and hoping for this to come....now i SO hope that you guys from Cryptic, do it the RIGHT WAY...PLEASE take your time and make a GOOD Ship, dont Rush it and PLEASE listen to your Customers to US, giving us this "Design your Ship" option is a nice thing, hopefully you will also listen when it comes to its layout and so on.
I always wanted a real Starfleet Designed Carrier for my Vulcan Engi Character Sarek, the Caitian Carrier was not an option mainly because of its way to heavy leaning on Science...i got the Jem Dread for him, not a SF Design but at least a not too bad Layout, but always hated the fact that a Federation Vulcan Admiral...flys a Dominion Ship...so if this new Fed Carrier will be any good, than SOLD!
for the Design....yea i see you have some Schematics...but there is this Design i bookmarked a long time ago, now i think its the right time to share it here, PLEASE have a look and consider this, its from a Private artist (TomXaros) on deviantart.com and i think looks FANTASTIC
Name: U.S.S. Torquemada
Registred number: NCC-105 366
Class: Inquisitor
Vessel type: battleship
Approx length: 1400 m
Crew: 2500 + 3000 troops
Weapons:
44 phaser banks, 52 quantum torpedo launchers, 2 dreadnought cannons
Defences:
Priamary and secondary shield, Voyager type ablative armor
Other:
cloaking device, 8 shuttle bay, 2 attack fighter lauch bay (mostly used for Peregrin class)
(those stats are from the Designer and of course not usable 1 to 1 in sto i know :P)
unlike the Caitian Carrier, this New Carrier should be more Balanced, enough Firepower, and at the same Time Tanky enough to hold itself? a LtComTac should be the least with atleast 3 or better 4 Tactical Consoles (maybe 4 on the Fleet Version?)a commander Eng Station, LtComUni, Lt Science? something like this would be sweetnes. Weapon Layout 4/4 maybe?
Also PLEASE give this Carrier FRIGATTE Pets, Fighters are ok and fine, but also having the option to launch Frigattes would be awesome unlike the "only Fighters" on the Caitian......for this i think the Defiant would be a great Idea? I mean we have Iconic Ships like Bird of Prays and Jem Hadard Bug Ships as Pets, so why not the Defiant for this new Carrier?
or a whole new Frigatte as pet?
If so here is another Ship i bookmarked long time ago, also from another Private artist on Deviantart.com ( DonMeiklejohn) that also looks friggin COOL, and would be Awesome as Frigatte Pet for this new Carrier (additionaly maybe even later as a New playable Escort?)
Name: U.S.S. Hammer
What do you guys think? You can Definately bet on the Fact that if you would come up with this or something very similar, that i would FIRE my Wallet with a CANNON at you, and i wouldnt be the only one, thats for sure
Whatever happened to the U.S.S. Typhon from the game Star Trek: Invasion? Is that a ship design available to STO through copyright control? Some of her fighters looked quite nice.
....The number of shuttles in a deployed wing is only 6, so a maximum of 12 per ship. Such a low number doesn't require the hangar space or support crew that a modern sea going carrier does...
Who's to say that the T6 carriers won't feature additional carrier bays? 3 or 4 carrier pets would be amazing!
Whatever happened to the U.S.S. Typhon from the game Star Trek: Invasion? Is that a ship design available to STO through copyright control? Some of her fighters looked quite nice.
Nope, the U.S.S. Typhons Design from the Game "Invasion" belongs to Activision, therefore not avaible for anything else, unless Activision gives green light.
Sadly I have to agree. At this point I am respectfully refusing to participate in this promotion for two reasons
1. Because of the LACK of equality. I don't see a "Build the Romulan Republic Carrier" promotion happening any time soon and you guys think the Feddos need a SECOND carrier? Puh-lease....
2. I'm not voting on something i'm not going to buy, it makes me feel falsely invested.
We don't want what the Feds have. We want the equivalent. We want fairer treatment. Concern, desire, greed to some extent, and passionate belief that the enough people would buy KDF items to make it worth Cryptic's while.
Hi there, I'm a Roleplayer and I don't normally weigh in on Ship Designs on the Forums I normally just complain about them to my fleetmates. That being said however I feel I should weigh in here so here goes, I Vote for the Omega Design, Below are my reasons;
1. First, from the picture posted by Cryptic it's the only one that has a Visible flight deck. (The long white looking Bar just forward of the Lower pair of engine Nacelles.) From the Top view it looks like that Large bay is a type of lateral Thru-Deck Bay. Which would make Logical sense for Rapid deployment and recovery of small craft.
2. The Omega Design also has the Primary "Bulk" of the vessel in the the most logical area around that long open bay area. If You look at Real world Aircraft Carrier Designs (Modern Super Carriers and large fleet Carrier Designs from WWII onward) You will notice that the bulk of the ship is for aircraft storage and maintenance. It would stand to reason that a Starfleet Carrier would have to follow very roughly the same Idea. Propulsion and Weapons would be secondary considerations, because as a Carrier it's first line of Defense and Offense are the Fighters it carries.
3. It's one of only two designs that look as if it's a purpose built vessel for being a Carrier ship the other being the Delta Design. The others seem to be Large cruisers that were modified to be carrier ships. When you attempt to make a large Capital ship (Battleships, Heavy Cruisers, Carriers, etc.) perform two different roles at the same time what You wind up with is a ship that's inefficient in performing either role. Case in point the Carrier/Cruiser Designs the Japanese tried to produce in the later part of the second world war.
Hopefully the Developers will also take into consideration that a true carrier vessel needs to have more Fighters and less of it's own heavy weapons, That will require more team work in STFs and other Multiplayer missions Big carriers can hit hard but in reality they all have glass jaws (Meaning for the offense potential they have they are weak on Defense when it comes to it's self) So If a new carrier is designed no matter what the Devs need to take that into consideration. In closing I think the Omega design is.. if I may borrow a a bit of phrasing from the Vulcans, the Logical choice.
To be perfectly honest, I like some of the designs that were on the draft paper that's part of the 'Design Your Ship' heading. Such as the top one, and the two at the bottom left. Something familiar, yet different.
Oh come on, the round things have a variety of uses, some are scanner monitors, some are access panels, some are scanners, some are storage lockers. I've no idea why 10 and 11 forgot what they used to use them for.
Partial memory loss? That always comes up when it's convenient
Beta would be my second choice. Delta or Beta ftw!
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Whatever happened to the U.S.S. Typhon from the game Star Trek: Invasion? Is that a ship design available to STO through copyright control? Some of her fighters looked quite nice.
Nope, the U.S.S. Typhons Design from the Game "Invasion" belongs to Activision, therefore not avaible for anything else, unless Activision gives green light.
That's a shame... the Typhon itself looked a bit like a cubist take on a beefburger, but some of the fighters were wuite nice.
Whatever happened to the U.S.S. Typhon from the game Star Trek: Invasion? Is that a ship design available to STO through copyright control? Some of her fighters looked quite nice.
Nope, the U.S.S. Typhons Design from the Game "Invasion" belongs to Activision, therefore not avaible for anything else, unless Activision gives green light.
That's a shame... the Typhon itself looked a bit like a cubist take on a beefburger, but some of the fighters were wuite nice.
you mean that thing??
(Valkyrie Class by admiral-horton @ Deviantart.com)
while iam not a Fan of the Typhon Class, i must admit the Valkyrie Fighter look nice.
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But there are parts that I liked and make me think a good designer with a reasonable amount of design time (instead what I imagine a last-minute-crunch-time-mad-dash-for-release design time) could make it look good.
I'd like to see more drones, rather than flying coffins. The Iconians have basically set the example of using drones offensively during the Iconian War. And we already have the Obelisk Swarmers.
I will vote for Sigma.
If any of these designs, Delta. It's round. I like round.
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If i could choose, i gather saucer and hull of Epsilon and nacells of Gamma.
it will be my version of the Jupiter class. I agree the orignal design need a revamp. ;)
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Clearly, if this works, we would be able to extend it to the Romulans and KDF. Instead of complaining, you could help make sure it's successful, which would mean more KDF and Rom stuff down the line.
Far as the actual designs, Omega and Gamma are the most viable as a carrier to me, their large saucers meaning more hangar space. I would like to see them both act as variants of the same ship, allowing people to mix and match their parts, meaning more customisation, and more people are happy with what they get, no-one loses in that scenario.
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And no, it's not because of the Jupiter similarities. To me, the overall feel of the Omega just seems right, save the nacelles. Now if the nacelle/pylon set-up of the Beta can be duplicated and used on the Omega, then I would find it just fine. But then again, none of the nacelles seem just right to be for some reason.
Thank you for the time...
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You love the round things...
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Oh come on, the round things have a variety of uses, some are scanner monitors, some are access panels, some are scanners, some are storage lockers. I've no idea why 10 and 11 forgot what they used to use them for.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I always wanted a real Starfleet Designed Carrier for my Vulcan Engi Character Sarek, the Caitian Carrier was not an option mainly because of its way to heavy leaning on Science...i got the Jem Dread for him, not a SF Design but at least a not too bad Layout, but always hated the fact that a Federation Vulcan Admiral...flys a Dominion Ship...so if this new Fed Carrier will be any good, than SOLD!
for the Design....yea i see you have some Schematics...but there is this Design i bookmarked a long time ago, now i think its the right time to share it here, PLEASE have a look and consider this, its from a Private artist (TomXaros) on deviantart.com and i think looks FANTASTIC
Name: U.S.S. Torquemada
Registred number: NCC-105 366
Class: Inquisitor
Vessel type: battleship
Approx length: 1400 m
Crew: 2500 + 3000 troops
Weapons:
44 phaser banks, 52 quantum torpedo launchers, 2 dreadnought cannons
Defences:
Priamary and secondary shield, Voyager type ablative armor
Other:
cloaking device, 8 shuttle bay, 2 attack fighter lauch bay (mostly used for Peregrin class)
(those stats are from the Designer and of course not usable 1 to 1 in sto i know :P)
unlike the Caitian Carrier, this New Carrier should be more Balanced, enough Firepower, and at the same Time Tanky enough to hold itself? a LtComTac should be the least with atleast 3 or better 4 Tactical Consoles (maybe 4 on the Fleet Version?)a commander Eng Station, LtComUni, Lt Science? something like this would be sweetnes. Weapon Layout 4/4 maybe?
Also PLEASE give this Carrier FRIGATTE Pets, Fighters are ok and fine, but also having the option to launch Frigattes would be awesome unlike the "only Fighters" on the Caitian......for this i think the Defiant would be a great Idea? I mean we have Iconic Ships like Bird of Prays and Jem Hadard Bug Ships as Pets, so why not the Defiant for this new Carrier?
or a whole new Frigatte as pet?
If so here is another Ship i bookmarked long time ago, also from another Private artist on Deviantart.com ( DonMeiklejohn) that also looks friggin COOL, and would be Awesome as Frigatte Pet for this new Carrier (additionaly maybe even later as a New playable Escort?)
Name: U.S.S. Hammer
What do you guys think? You can Definately bet on the Fact that if you would come up with this or something very similar, that i would FIRE my Wallet with a CANNON at you, and i wouldnt be the only one, thats for sure
Who's to say that the T6 carriers won't feature additional carrier bays? 3 or 4 carrier pets would be amazing!
Nope, the U.S.S. Typhons Design from the Game "Invasion" belongs to Activision, therefore not avaible for anything else, unless Activision gives green light.
Sadly I have to agree. At this point I am respectfully refusing to participate in this promotion for two reasons
1. Because of the LACK of equality. I don't see a "Build the Romulan Republic Carrier" promotion happening any time soon and you guys think the Feddos need a SECOND carrier? Puh-lease....
2. I'm not voting on something i'm not going to buy, it makes me feel falsely invested.
1. First, from the picture posted by Cryptic it's the only one that has a Visible flight deck. (The long white looking Bar just forward of the Lower pair of engine Nacelles.) From the Top view it looks like that Large bay is a type of lateral Thru-Deck Bay. Which would make Logical sense for Rapid deployment and recovery of small craft.
2. The Omega Design also has the Primary "Bulk" of the vessel in the the most logical area around that long open bay area. If You look at Real world Aircraft Carrier Designs (Modern Super Carriers and large fleet Carrier Designs from WWII onward) You will notice that the bulk of the ship is for aircraft storage and maintenance. It would stand to reason that a Starfleet Carrier would have to follow very roughly the same Idea. Propulsion and Weapons would be secondary considerations, because as a Carrier it's first line of Defense and Offense are the Fighters it carries.
3. It's one of only two designs that look as if it's a purpose built vessel for being a Carrier ship the other being the Delta Design. The others seem to be Large cruisers that were modified to be carrier ships. When you attempt to make a large Capital ship (Battleships, Heavy Cruisers, Carriers, etc.) perform two different roles at the same time what You wind up with is a ship that's inefficient in performing either role. Case in point the Carrier/Cruiser Designs the Japanese tried to produce in the later part of the second world war.
Hopefully the Developers will also take into consideration that a true carrier vessel needs to have more Fighters and less of it's own heavy weapons, That will require more team work in STFs and other Multiplayer missions Big carriers can hit hard but in reality they all have glass jaws (Meaning for the offense potential they have they are weak on Defense when it comes to it's self) So If a new carrier is designed no matter what the Devs need to take that into consideration. In closing I think the Omega design is.. if I may borrow a a bit of phrasing from the Vulcans, the Logical choice.
Gamma is my second choice. It is both interesting and substantial.
Omega's Jupiter class look is a bit of an illusion. Its top view looks like Jupiter's side view. Side by side, they are nothing alike.
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Partial memory loss? That always comes up when it's convenient
Beta would be my second choice. Delta or Beta ftw!
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That's a shame... the Typhon itself looked a bit like a cubist take on a beefburger, but some of the fighters were wuite nice.
you mean that thing??
(Valkyrie Class by admiral-horton @ Deviantart.com)
while iam not a Fan of the Typhon Class, i must admit the Valkyrie Fighter look nice.