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  • zobovorzobovor Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    I'm still trying to figure out who stayed and who left . I'm also seeing a number of unknown names whom could be some of those who left and / or just new account's created 4 trolling .
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    There are still a lot of things needing addressed. But I've started to warm to them now that they don't look like a big bland grey wall.

    I'm liking the new Romulan theme that got added, but I still have to toggle Grayscale off then on to get the theme to repeat all the way to the bottom of the page.

    Glad you like it. Like the other STO themes, it includes edited parts of the code from grayscale so you shouldn't actually need to run that at the same time anyway. It's designed to be a standalone theme. :)
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Glad you like it. Like the other STO themes, it includes edited parts of the code from grayscale so you shouldn't actually need to run that at the same time anyway. It's designed to be a standalone theme. :)


    Well here's the thing (and this may be because I use Opera) with grayscale off I only get the theme picture once at the top of the page and everything below is a solid color [green, red, or blue].

    However using grayscale in Opera the theme picture repeats itself all the way down the page, and I like seeing the picture repeated as opposed to the plain single color background.

    It's just a personal preference.

    Ahh ok I see what you mean. Do you browse on arcgames.com or perfectworld.vanillaforums.com? On the latter the image is supposed to remain fixed in place for the background, but I know the iFrame embedding via arcgames is pretty rubbish and doesn't work very well for it.
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    One thing i'm really missing is faction specific shipyard sub-forums. They were good places to seek advice about specific ships for your faction and with them gone new build topics tend to get lost in the forums quite fast.
    They still exist, look here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/categories/sto-feedback
    They are child categories of the respective faction boards. Suboptimal organization IMO, but they are still around.

    They were pretty much experiencing all sorts of suboptimal and redundancies beforehand; would be nifty if some of that could get straightened out over here, eh? Cause if we look at the tree, so to speak...

    Star Trek Online

    ...Information and Discussion (For news and announcements, release notes, dev tracker and general discussions.)
    ......Galactic News Network (This section is for the discussion of announcements, news and events related to Star Trek Online.)
    ......Release Notes (This section is where we post the release notes for the latest version of Star Trek Online. Posting is not allowed.)
    ......The Academy (New and confused still? Got questions about Star Trek Online and how things work? Come on in and ask here! The Player Guides sub-forum can also be found here.)
    .........Player Guides (Player guides that would normally be stickied now have their own sub-forum! New threads can not be posted here. Guides created in The Academy will be considered for inclusion here.)
    ......Star Trek Online General Discussion (This forum is for general discussion and feedback related to Star Trek Online.)
    ......Ten Forward (Introduce yourself, share fan art, fan fiction, and make friends here! Romulan Ale is still prohibited. The Captain's Table (RP) sub-forum can also be found here.)
    .........Captain's Table (RP) (This sub-forum can be used for role playing on the forums. All forum rules apply.)
    ...Feedback (For general gameplay, powers and bridge officers, combat, missions, PvP and UI discussions.)
    ......Federation Gameplay (This is where you post your feedback on Federation-exclusive content.)
    .........Federation Shipyards (Here is where officers of the Federation meet to discuss their ships, equipment and layouts.)
    ......Klingon Gameplay (This is where you post your feedback on Klingon-exclusive content.)
    .........Klingon Fleetyards (Here is where Klingon warriors meet to discuss their Birds of Prey and Raptors, as well as Battle Cruisers and Carriers.)
    ......Romulan Gameplay (This is where you post your feedback on Romulan-exclusive content.)
    .........Romulan Flotilla (Here is where members of the Romulan Republic meet to discuss their Warbirds.)
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    ...Test Servers (The test servers are where we'll be testing out new content and upcoming changes to STO before they are pushed to Holodeck.)
    ......Tribble
    .........Tribble - Announcements and Release Notes (This section is for the discussion of announcements, news and release notes for the latest version of Star Trek Online on Tribble. Posting is not allowed.)
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    .........Tribble - Bug Reports (This forum is for discussion of bugs found on the Tribble test server. Please file a support ticket in-game to provide us with additional information.)
    .........Tribble - Feedback (Feedback for changes on the Tribble Test Server may be discussed here.)
    ............C-Store Feedback (Feedback related to C-Store Changes should go in this forum.)
    ............Economy Feedback (Feedback related to changes to Star Trek Online's economy should go in this forum.)
    ............Duty Officer System Feedback (Feedback related to the new Duty Officer System should go in this forum.)
    ............Content Feedback (Feedback related to new Content should go in this forum.)
    ............UI Feedback (Feedback related to C-Store Changes should go in this forum.)
    ......Redshirt
    .........Redshirt - Announcements and Release Notes (This section is for the discussion of announcements, news and release notes for the latest version of Star Trek Online on Redshirt. Posting is not allowed.)
    .........Redshirt - Bug Reports (This forum is for discussion of bugs found on the Redshirt test server. Please file a support ticket in-game to provide us with additional information.)
    .........Redshirt - General Discussion and Feedback (This forum is for general discussion about the Redshirt test server. You may also post feedback here about upcoming changes.)
    ...Support (For gameplay bugs, peer-to-peer technical support and graphical issues.)
    ......C-Store, ZEN, and Promotions (This is where you post your feedback on the C-Store and special promotions, as well as post questions and find information about ZEN.)
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    ......Technical Helpers Forum (Users who are part of the helpful users, tech support group can discuss issues that other players are having here in order to pool their resources!)

    And well, yeah, it's been a mess and will continue to be a mess until it is not a mess.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Ahh ok I see what you mean. Do you browse on arcgames.com or perfectworld.vanillaforums.com? On the latter the image is supposed to remain fixed in place for the background, but I know the iFrame embedding via arcgames is pretty rubbish and doesn't work very well for it.


    arcgames.com/en/forums#

    Checking out perfectworld.vanillaforums.com now... Oh wow that's much nicer! Thanks for the heads up. I'm bookmarking the vanilla and deleting the Arc off my browser.
    Haha, yeah the direct forum view is much better. It looks better without all the ARC banners and it's more responsive than the embedded version too. After I figured that out I did the same and got rid of the other bookmark. :)
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • battykoda0battykoda0 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    This brings back much nostalgia for me. Remember way back in 1990 and dial-up BBS forums? Yeah... well, at least the ASCII art there lined up because the font was Fixed System...

    Seriously? This is an upgrade from the old forums? It took me forever to get out of the PWI mothership and into here only to find I need to look more to even find the new posts I'm interested in. Star Trek Online: Back to the Future where forums of the future are 1992.
    Wow. There is a new KDF Science ship. I'll be!
  • smeeinn1tsmeeinn1t Member Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Well I now have Greasemonkey and have the enhancements running, much better, now hopefully the PWE team can implement something similar into Vanilla so that I can remove 3rd party stuff.

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    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." — Lazarus Long --->Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    so why the hell do we now HAVE to go through the arcgames.com site I wonder? try going through perfectworld.vanillaforums.com and you get bounced >.<
    was trying to figure out why the forums were acting screwy, no click to scroll, not going to the newest post in a thread, etc then noticed the url.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Like them (as they are)
    so why the hell do we now HAVE to go through the arcgames.com site I wonder? try going through perfectworld.vanillaforums.com and you get bounced >.<
    was trying to figure out why the forums were acting screwy, no click to scroll, not going to the newest post in a thread, etc then noticed the url.
    Yeah it worked a lot smoother without the added page. try using back/forward... I dare you... :p
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    My character Tsin'xing
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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    found this lovely gem in another thread complaining about the forums, works great!
    bejaymac wrote: »
    Already been complained about, if you have an adblocker on your browser then you should be able to tell it to block
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/js/embed_local.js
    
    that will stop you from being redirected.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    Yeah, I have no clue as how to install that mod (on IE), so I'm just gonna comment on the forum itself: it sucks 'as is.' Most egregious things wrong with it:

    * You can't unsubscribe from a thread; so I'm daily bombarded with updates on every thread I ever replied in.

    * Buttons like 'Preferences' (under your Profile) are hardly legible.

    * There are no 'next/previous' page markers at the bottom of the page.

    Otherwise, the forum has potential, but it needs a lot of upgrading and/or fixing.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    flash525 wrote: »
    I can't be arsed to download a bunch of fixed from users (as great as they no doubt are) in order for the forums to look better. It should be PWE's job to provide us with something better.

    Pretty much this.

    I don't understand how to do it anyway; and by the time I got it figured out and installed, PWE will have changed something, and I will wind up with a(n even more borked) forum.

    It's PWE who should fix their forums.
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  • strous1strous1 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)

    They lost my picture for Star Trek and Put in the one from Neverwinter Forum. Lost my sigpic and made the quote from Neverwinter my quote for Star Trek. Tell me how that is fixing things!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    PnP Red Box DM & Player (74 - ?). NWN + SoU + HotU (4-03),
    NWN Diamond Edition, Neverwinter Nights Complete (NWN + NWN2).
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Like them (as they are)
    strous1 wrote: »
    They lost my picture for Star Trek and Put in the one from Neverwinter Forum. Lost my sigpic and made the quote from Neverwinter my quote for Star Trek. Tell me how that is fixing things!
    Hehe, I think it went with whichever sig/avatar was updated most recently, I ended up with the one I use on the CO forum.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    My character Tsin'xing
    Costume_marhawkman_Tsin%27xing_CC_Comic_Page_Blue_488916968.jpg
  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    The new forums suck. Not only was it a completely unnecessary change, it was a waste of time and effort, and it isn't even an improvement. Sure it looks fancy and new, but its pointless. I'd prefer to have the old forums back, but since that isn't gonna happen, its just less time I'll spend here, and even less time I'll spend in the game in protest.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Congratulations! You've been promoted to BugBunker Guy.
    lol wtf? got this notification an hour or so ago
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    7 days into Vanilla.. How do you like the Forum now..?
    Still hate it and only occasional log in, because it's totally annoying and posts are much less readable then on any other forum i know.
    New forum: 100% fail imo.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    You know you can edit Thread Subjects now. Perhaps it's time to update the number of days since Vanilla implemented in the Subject.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • kristaswiftkristaswift Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    I missed the old forums...it's so much quieter here. Looks like it has been NERFED and most of the former contributors to forum posting have moved on. Not much to see except for the entertaining polls :)

    Sadly, mobile and search functions have been left behind and not user friendly at all.
  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Edit: eh, looks like my reply is now out-of-context, so I'm removing it.
    Post edited by stobg2015 on
    (The Guy Formerly And Still Known As Bluegeek)
  • Captain AmahinoCaptain Amahino Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    I haven't tried either CSS fixes - although if anyone would post a link, I'll give them a shot. But in all honesty, I've all but given up on these forums.


    Here's a link to the thread. You'll have to scroll down to nrglg's post in the thread because the links they've been updating are in his signature.

    First thanks Nrglg, I really haven't played around with the forums enough to know what I'm missing, but I'll go through your plugins and see what's useful.

    But one thing that is pissing me off royally on these new forums is illustrated right here. I clicked on the link you've given and it's taken me to a blank page. What the hell? Other links I had bookmarked like Havelock's tailor thread are also blanking out instead of taking me anywhere. Did they reset the forums or something????
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    I haven't tried either CSS fixes - although if anyone would post a link, I'll give them a shot. But in all honesty, I've all but given up on these forums.


    Here's a link to the thread. You'll have to scroll down to nrglg's post in the thread because the links they've been updating are in his signature.

    First thanks Nrglg, I really haven't played around with the forums enough to know what I'm missing, but I'll go through your plugins and see what's useful.

    But one thing that is pissing me off royally on these new forums is illustrated right here. I clicked on the link you've given and it's taken me to a blank page. What the hell? Other links I had bookmarked like Havelock's tailor thread are also blanking out instead of taking me anywhere. Did they reset the forums or something????

    they recently started hijacking browser tabs and forcing them into an iframe. the above was an iframe link
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/7895/testing-bug-hunting-and-finding-exploits
    thats a direct link. it will get hijacked anyway... the iframe thing is yet another issue addressed in the enhancement. your best bet is just to go directly to the enhancement download page and follow the instuctions there: https://github.com/asterpw/pwevanillaenhance​​
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    they recently started hijacking browser tabs and forcing them into an iframe. the above was an iframe link
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/7895/testing-bug-hunting-and-finding-exploits
    thats a direct link. it will get hijacked anyway... the iframe thing is yet another issue addressed in the enhancement. your best bet is just to go directly to the enhancement download page and follow the instuctions there: https://github.com/asterpw/pwevanillaenhance​​

    OR read back a page and see where it was posted a way to block the redirect w/o using the enhancements
    bejaymac wrote: »
    Already been complained about, if you have an adblocker on your browser then you should be able to tell it to block
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/js/embed_local.js
    
    that will stop you from being redirected.
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    they recently started hijacking browser tabs and forcing them into an iframe. the above was an iframe link
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/7895/testing-bug-hunting-and-finding-exploits
    thats a direct link. it will get hijacked anyway... the iframe thing is yet another issue addressed in the enhancement. your best bet is just to go directly to the enhancement download page and follow the instuctions there: https://github.com/asterpw/pwevanillaenhance

    OR read back a page and see where it was posted a way to block the redirect w/o using the enhancements
    bejaymac wrote: »
    Already been complained about, if you have an adblocker on your browser then you should be able to tell it to block
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/js/embed_local.js
    
    that will stop you from being redirected.

    If you take the time to read his quotes it looks like he's most likely already using the adblock workaround (which was originally posted by nrglg) but it actually causes issues when manually trying to browse the embedded version of the forums which is why a lot of links he's clicking are going to blank pages. Whereas the version included with the enhancement tools just prevents the redirect but still allows you to open links to the embedded version without any issues if you so choose to do so.

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    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    Well whatever it was they did this evening screwed it up even more. The site logged me out for some reason, and when trying to log back in I instantly get the error message "Page expired! Please refresh and try again!" and right now can only log in to post this via the basic Chrome on my phone. But my desktop running Firefox (Seamonkey, technically) with AdBlock Plus and NoScript is no go, even if I disable bejaymac's aforementioned redirect workaround. Thing fails more every day.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    weird, Im on chrome and have had no issues... try deleting your cookies and cache? something mighta corrupted?
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    i use firefox + adblock plus; i have no problems. these forums are not perfect, but they do the job. And i like the tool which allows me to disable the signatures
  • stobg2015stobg2015 Member Posts: 800 Arc User
    I will say that it has never been easier to read the forums on a smartphone. I understand Askray is really happy about that! :)
    (The Guy Formerly And Still Known As Bluegeek)
  • kristaswiftkristaswift Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    The "turn the page" functionality on my smartphone does not work at all...anyone with ideas on what to use on IOS smartphone to circumvent that?
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