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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Like them (as they are)
    valoreah wrote: »
    nepsthen wrote: »
    Just be glad you haven't seen mid to late 90's forums with the <blink> tag enabled. It could be done better, though. Having a ton of unused space is horrid these days. If a couple users can bang out a better version in a couple days, it makes me wonder how the current format ever got approved. It's like an echo chamber with Cryptic/PWE and certain things. vBulletin should be put to better use than this. I do agree with some earlier posts that state how it's not our job to send out fixes for this. It's fine temporarily, but it shouldn't become a standard.

    I've been using computers since before there was an internet as you know it, and yes I do remember the <blink> tag. Even that is a vast improvement over how this site is laid out.

    To call whomever designed these forums an amateur with zero basic knowledge of usability and readability is being kind. But as others have said, this is the quality we've come to expect from PWE. Relying on players to fix this TRIBBLE poor excuse of a design is laziness and incompetence on PWE's part I'm sad to say.
    that's just it..... I don't think they actually designed anything. My best guess is that they configured only what needed to be done for functionality, and didn't bother to even think about aesthetics.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    that's just it..... I don't think they actually designed anything. My best guess is that they configured only what needed to be done for functionality, and didn't bother to even think about aesthetics.
    yeah, it certainly feels like something 'right of the shelf and just out the box' and part of me would like to think that it wasn't anticipated or planned for it to be this.. poor.. on migration. but assumptions and generalisations aside, we never really know what's going on behind the scenes lol.

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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    I like it well enough with the enhancements provided, without them it's just awful. Navigation is by far the most unintuitive I have ever seen on a forum.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,481 Arc User
    themarie wrote: »
    These forums suck and the person who made the decision to migrate sucks.

    Sounds like this forum is a regular brothel. Wait, isn't the forum supposed to be all ages?

    All fun aside, with the PWE vanilla enhancement and the pro blue theme it's pretty decent.
    Things like layout, mark all forums as read and actually having sections of the forum you've hidden be hidden would be nice.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    questerius wrote: »
    themarie wrote: »
    These forums suck and the person who made the decision to migrate sucks.

    Sounds like this forum is a regular brothel. Wait, isn't the forum supposed to be all ages?

    All fun aside, with the PWE vanilla enhancement and the pro blue theme it's pretty decent.
    Things like layout, mark all forums as read and actually having sections of the forum you've hidden be hidden would be nice.

    Agreed, I just discovered the enhancements and they're a significant improvement. Still plenty of room for improvement, but at least the the Enchantments make the forum useable.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    questerius wrote: »
    themarie wrote: »
    These forums suck and the person who made the decision to migrate sucks.

    Sounds like this forum is a regular brothel. Wait, isn't the forum supposed to be all ages?

    All fun aside, with the PWE vanilla enhancement and the pro blue theme it's pretty decent.
    Things like layout, mark all forums as read and actually having sections of the forum you've hidden be hidden would be nice.
    i think i saw a mention of the 'not hidden' hidden issue, apparently they changed the 'handle' or 'definition' or 'labels' of some of the sections (that may not be the right terminology lol) so to fix it al you need to do is unhide them all (select the url below that fits your entry point) and then go through the hide process again.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/categories/?ShowAllCategories=true
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/categories/?ShowAllCategories=true
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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I still can't leave a comment from my phone....well holy TRIBBLE never mind it worked. Alright I guess I can live with the new ones.
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  • adarus77adarus77 Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    I didn't install any plug in or another external solution to this forum because IMHO, the original plataform should give you those solutions, if it doesn't then is not as good as they said, maybe they can fix things, so i will wait to see what else they do with this Vanilla....
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    I use it primarily on my tablet, mobile experience is improving, but page formats for landscape mode, acute problem which isn't a huge problem, but still needs a bit of polish.

    I've been away from home for a few days so I really can't speak to the desktop experience, because I was having to use ARC, to stay logged in, I don't know where that issue has been addressed or not yet.
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  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Don't like them (as they are)
    I keep using the Quote button instead of the edit button for some reason. Sigh. The need to go to the upper icon and then click on "edit" is really annoying.
  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    Only problem with these fixes is that they don't install on my work computer. I normally only view these boards when at work. And the security implemented on the work environment wont allow these extensions to be installed. SO unless there is some way to bypass the security without getting in trouble, I can't use these "fixes". I need the server side to be changed.
    And I still can't use any of my other badges I have paid for.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    sisteric wrote: »
    Only problem with these fixes is that they don't install on my work computer. I normally only view these boards when at work. And the security implemented on the work environment wont allow these extensions to be installed. SO unless there is some way to bypass the security without getting in trouble, I can't use these "fixes". I need the server side to be changed.
    And I still can't use any of my other badges I have paid for.
    they are working on some server side fixes, what exactly.. i do not know!? and the last i heard about our titles was something mentioned last week, saying they were working on them :disappointed:

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  • kozar2kozar2 Member Posts: 602 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Why exactly am I supposed to do their job for them? Am I suddenly on the payroll? If so they sent my last check to someone else's account.
  • kristaswiftkristaswift Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    sisteric wrote: »
    Only problem with these fixes is that they don't install on my work computer. I normally only view these boards when at work. And the security implemented on the work environment wont allow these extensions to be installed. SO unless there is some way to bypass the security without getting in trouble, I can't use these "fixes". I need the server side to be changed.
    And I still can't use any of my other badges I have paid for.


    Or you could use the computer at your job for work instead of non-work related internet browsing. normal-3.gif

    Or I can look at this stuff during my two 15 minutes breaks, 1 hour lunch and any down time I have in which I would just fall asleep anyways. :o

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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    sisteric wrote: »
    Or I can look at this stuff during my two 15 minutes breaks, 1 hour lunch and any down time I have in which I would just fall asleep anyways. :o


    You could do that on a phone or tablet without suffering any work security software. normal-1.gif

    Works wireless is not open to employees. And my iPad doesn't have it's own data access. So I need wireless to connect to. And my phone shares the data with my wife and and my two girls. So data is not always as available to me.

    Besides, I am not supposed to have those things out at my desk, and I can't really leave my desk for to long. ( I eat at my desk. ) So this is just convenient, doesn't break the rules, and is allowed by my boss to best serve the business needs.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    sisteric wrote: »
    sisteric wrote: »
    Or I can look at this stuff during my two 15 minutes breaks, 1 hour lunch and any down time I have in which I would just fall asleep anyways. :o


    You could do that on a phone or tablet without suffering any work security software. normal-1.gif

    Works wireless is not open to employees. And my iPad doesn't have it's own data access. So I need wireless to connect to. And my phone shares the data with my wife and and my two girls. So data is not always as available to me.

    Besides, I am not supposed to have those things out at my desk, and I can't really leave my desk for to long. ( I eat at my desk. ) So this is just convenient, doesn't break the rules, and is allowed by my boss to best serve the business needs.
    sorry to hear you are somewhat restricted.. but serious qudos to your work ethic and putting the ladies in your life 1st.. i totally understand and respect that.

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  • cyther77cyther77 Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    Pretty one sided, 88% disapproval.
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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    sisteric wrote: »
    Works wireless is not open to employees. And my iPad doesn't have it's own data access. So I need wireless to connect to. And my phone shares the data with my wife and and my two girls. So data is not always as available to me.

    Besides, I am not supposed to have those things out at my desk, and I can't really leave my desk for to long. ( I eat at my desk. ) So this is just convenient, doesn't break the rules, and is allowed by my boss to best serve the business needs.


    Okay that socks. You've got no other options, and I'm out of alternatives. jellyfish-20.gif

    Yeah, And it wasn't that big a deal till these new forums. But it's manageable still.
    qziqza wrote: »
    sisteric wrote: »
    sisteric wrote: »
    Or I can look at this stuff during my two 15 minutes breaks, 1 hour lunch and any down time I have in which I would just fall asleep anyways. :o


    You could do that on a phone or tablet without suffering any work security software. normal-1.gif

    Works wireless is not open to employees. And my iPad doesn't have it's own data access. So I need wireless to connect to. And my phone shares the data with my wife and and my two girls. So data is not always as available to me.

    Besides, I am not supposed to have those things out at my desk, and I can't really leave my desk for to long. ( I eat at my desk. ) So this is just convenient, doesn't break the rules, and is allowed by my boss to best serve the business needs.
    sorry to hear you are somewhat restricted.. but serious qudos to your work ethic and putting the ladies in your life 1st.. i totally understand and respect that.


    Thanks. It means alot. Even if they don't always appreciate it, it's something I am still happy to do for them.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    One thing i'm really missing is faction specific shipyard sub-forums. They were good places to seek advice about specific ships for your faction and with them gone new build topics tend to get lost in the forums quite fast.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Still needs a better CSS.
    And a Dev Tracker. (I know that's in the works.)
    And a better Search would probably be nice, but I haven't had to use Search much yet.
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    One thing i'm really missing is faction specific shipyard sub-forums. They were good places to seek advice about specific ships for your faction and with them gone new build topics tend to get lost in the forums quite fast.
    They still exist, look here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/categories/sto-feedback
    They are child categories of the respective faction boards. Suboptimal organization IMO, but they are still around.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    The censor is bloody childish (hehe, you said d.amn, I'm telling). I also miss the 'next page' button at the bottom of the page. Other than those, I'm fine.
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  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    artan42 wrote: »
    The censor is bloody childish (hehe, you said d.amn, I'm telling). I also miss the 'next page' button at the bottom of the page. Other than those, I'm fine.
    i really hope 'un-hiding' those page buttons along the bottom is 1 of the 1st batch of fixes they give the forum.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Arc User
    Don't like them (even with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Broke half my fanfic threads and broke my ability to fix them. F*ck Vanilla.
  • kittyflofykittyflofy Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)

    I don't recall anyone asking you to do anything. We've been told that Cryptic/PWE isn't finished setting up the forum yet, [/color]

    Hmm, cryptic is not the ones doing the forum migration (im pretty sure of it) and it doesnt take that long to accomodate a vanilla forum. In my humble opinion, this is what we get.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    There are still a lot of things needing addressed. But I've started to warm to them now that they don't look like a big bland grey wall.
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  • vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    Don't like them (as they are)
    This has to be one of the worst Forum changes like ever!
  • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
    Like them (with the fixes from asterelle and nrglg)
    Broke half my fanfic threads and broke my ability to fix them. F*ck Vanilla.
    :disappointed: when i read about the character limitation on posts i knew that was going to be problematic, especially with you fanfic writers, didn't expect it to totally break them though.. that really sucks big time.
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