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  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    You can "no you" me all you want, the fact is there are people here who are so socially stunted they think what happens in game is tantamount to ****. That is disturbing, and they really should look into getting some treatment, or at least going outside once a day for ten minutes. The vitamin D from the sunshine can only help.

    How disappointing, you're getting too serious now :C

    My dear you still have a lot to learn about trolling,

    One important lesson is that when your trolling efforts are failing it's best to make a tactical retreat.

    Don't make a desperate attempt to continue.

    It's alright you shouldn't feel bad by being beaten by me, I have much more experience.

    But please continue and I can help you by pointing out any "rookie" mistakes you make. :rolleyes:
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    How disappointing, you're getting too serious now :C

    My dear you still have a lot to learn about trolling,

    One important lesson is that when your trolling efforts are failing it's best to make a tactical retreat.

    Don't make a desperate attempt to continue.

    It's alright you shouldn't feel bad by being beaten by me, I have much more experience.

    But please continue and I can help you by pointing out any "rookie" mistakes you make. :rolleyes:

    The fact you think that I'm trolling when I bring up the disturbing people who can't separate reality from a video game is pretty telling. You should look into some of that help too if that is the kind of response you think is appropriate for this situation. :(
    When you sound like you're reading from a cult pamphlet, folks are going to think you're reading from a cult pamphlet...

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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    The fact you think that I'm trolling when I bring up the disturbing people who can't separate reality from a video game is pretty telling. You should look into some of that help too if that is the kind of response you think is appropriate for this situation. :(



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    Another lesson in trolling...

    Simply telling people "I'm not trolling" doesn't work, once you've been discovered it's over but it's alright we all make mistakes.
  • tontokowalski22tontokowalski22 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Another lesson in trolling...

    Simply telling people "I'm not trolling" doesn't work, once you've been discovered it's over but it's alright we all make mistakes.

    Wow. You were awfully quick with that response. You must be furiously slamming on the refresh key. But obviously none of this discussion bothers a professional troll such as yourself.
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  • riyottsariyottsa Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    If you think grimrak1 is just trolling and not just giving decent, sound advice for helping people to act like a normal human being/adult there is something wrong. He's giving legit, sound advice and so that must just mean he has an evil master plan of giving you skin cancer.

    Go outside, act like an adult, stop acting like a prepubescent man-child about something that children would know how to handle.

    This coming from a non-Dental so no evil master plan, promise.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Yes, I am quite aware that certain fleets frequently accused of griefing/harrassment do free giveaways..... The National Socialist German Workers Party also had the National Socialist People's Welfare organization for charity drive and public face giveaways too. Real clever trolls put on public face drives for support..... sucessful trolls know how to put on a public face to placate the small minded and gullible.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Wow. You were awfully quick with that response. You must be furiously slamming on the refresh key. But obviously none of this discussion bothers a professional troll such as yourself.

    That's a good attempt but you're making it too obvious they you're searching for any possible insult to attack with.
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tekehd wrote: »
    Yes, I am quite aware that certain fleets frequently accused of griefing/harrassment do free giveaways..... The National Socialist German Workers Party also had the National Socialist People's Welfare organization for charity drive and public face giveaways too. Real clever trolls put on public face drives for support..... sucessful trolls know how to put on a public face to placate the small minded and gullible.

    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse. What part of "this is a game, not real life" do you not understand? Please, please, please seek help. :(
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse. What part of "this is a game, not real life" do you not understand? Please, please, please seek help. :(

    Only a jerk can control a jerk character. The way a person acts ingame towards other people is just a reflection of the person they actually are. Probably some issues with being too scared to be a jerk in public, fear of having a real confrontation.
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse. What part of "this is a game, not real life" do you not understand? Please, please, please seek help. :(

    Middle finger in the sig, what nice upstanding fleet you represent.

    The higher res version helped removed any useful ambiguity, it was kind of you to link that as well.
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  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Middle finger in the sig, what nice upstanding fleet you represent.

    The higher res version helped removed any useful ambiguity, it was kind of you to link that as well.

    Try wearing your glasses, you'll see it's clearly the index finger. Nice derail attempt by the way.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • induperatorinduperator Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse. What part of "this is a game, not real life" do you not understand? Please, please, please seek help. :(

    Next rule of trolling,

    Using the same attack too many times will fail, It's like Habituation, if you keep exposing someone to the same Stimulus they will eventually stop responding.
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    Try wearing your glasses, you'll see it's clearly the index finger. Nice derail attempt by the way.

    The index finger is curled and touching the thumb.
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  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    The index finger is curled and touching the thumb.

    No it's not, it's pointing forwards. Make the same shape with your hand, you'll see it.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse. What part of "this is a game, not real life" do you not understand? Please, please, please seek help. :(

    I understand the game is not real liife. My point being, if someone can do free giveaway to people for public face and still gas people and throw them into ovens...... using the fact one does free giveaways does not dismiss griefing and trolling activities also in game.... one does not negate the happening of the other, nor excuse it.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    First ****, now TRIBBLE. You guys are getting worse.

    Actually I just wanted to congratulate you guys for keeping up with the times .
    Going from a TRIBBLE inspired sig to one with many jihadi elements scattered across it, to the very latest combo of jihadi elements + Jesus groping shows quite an effort to shoot everywhere at once in hopes of hitting something (or someone's nerve) .





    ... I'm guessing that the Dear Leader must have switched medications again, so that explains the changes in direction, both with instead of "fighting ERP" to doing ERP with unwilling participants , and from TRIBBLE to jihad . So this is all in all ... progress ??
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tekehd wrote: »
    I understand the game is not real liife. My point being, if someone can do free giveaway to people for public face and still gas people and throw them into ovens...... using the fact one does free giveaways does not dismiss griefing and trolling activities also in game.... one does not negate the happening of the other, nor excuse it.

    It can help certain people look the other way though.
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  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tekehd wrote: »
    I understand the game is not real liife. My point being, if someone can do free giveaway to people for public face and still gas people and throw them into ovens...... using the fact one does free giveaways does not dismiss griefing and trolling activities also in game.... one does not negate the happening of the other, nor excuse it.

    The fact you think what we do in game is anywhere close to being the same as "gas people and throw them into ovens" is disturbing.
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    shazia9191 wrote: »
    Oh boy. Tekhd jumping in with a TRIBBLE comparison. You accuse us of mental gymnastics? There are some seriously broken people in this game, and while Mr. Blue beard may be a jerk for getting people riled up, it certainly isn't him needing the help, but the players that live with a blurred and uncertain understanding of what's real. R*** and TRIBBLE -- what charmed lives you all have that you can make these comparisons, having never experienced anything even close to the scale and seriousness of what you're alluding to.

    It was an example, not a comparison.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    All I know is that the player in question is part of a fleet that put videos on Youtube of their exploits and admits to the griefing of players. Self destructing thier ships outside of ESD to purposefully destroy unwilling participants ships (before the bug was fixed), inviting unkwoing members of the other faction on their bridges so the fleet members in waiting could kill them and wouldn't allow them the time to leave the bridge. It might be all fun and games for the fleet in question, but its always at the expense of unwilling participants.
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tekehd wrote: »
    It was an example, not a comparison.

    Why on Earth would you pick the holocaust as an appropriate example to demonstrate what we do in a video game?
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    The fact you think what we do in game is anywhere close to being the same as "gas people and throw them into ovens" is disturbing.

    Your read in opinion into something I did not say does not constitute a "fact". The further context shows that I consider what you are doing lesser..... That is what a "fact" looks like.
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    tekehd wrote: »
    Your read in opinion into something I did not say does not constitute a "fact". The further context shows that I consider what you are doing lesser..... That is what a "fact" looks like.
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    Why on Earth would you pick the holocaust as an appropriate example to demonstrate what we do in a video game?

    /10characters
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    /10characters

    I did not pick the holocaust as an example of what you do in the video game, I picked an example showing how an evil awful organization can engage in public face charity work in answer to people pulling out charity work as a counter to claims of griefing activity.... .IOW that you can be doing good stuff on the side does not negate you doing ****ty stuff too. If something as horrendous as the TRIBBLE can do it, why can't a lesser group do it? NOP and giveaways does not negate griefing activity..... not to people who are capable of seeing the bigger picture.
  • alethkiraenalethkiraen Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Please give Trendy's liver a rest.
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  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Huh.

    A little banter about TRIBBLE. Slamming the cis-gender scum. Lighthearted pokes at heteros and their silly western 'religion'. Oh wait make that plural on religions.

    And, I haven't even TOUCHED on what the actual customers are posting.

    Fire away boys! Give me a SAD!
  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    suzanna3 wrote: »
    ...due to a certain troll who stalked me across 3 instances trying to stop us - report sent of course, as stalking and harrassment are against the rules on the sto site :rolleyes:

    This is pretty straight forward and I'm not sure what the confusion is.

    Based on what the OP has said happen is that she tried to do something(in this case dancing) that was being interfered with in a manner that prevented from occurring or doing so in a enjoyable manner...so moved away at least once, was followed, moved to different instances THREE TIMES and was followed in all cases.

    This is stalking & harassment and is a volition of the TOS.

    You can claim "it's just a game" all you want. The 'game' has rules however, and by playing the game, you agree to the said terms and conditions laid out by both Cryptic and PWE. Playing the game is a privilege not a right.

    If you don't follow their rules here or any other game, you 'can' get canned. Simple.


    Edit: Just as a disclaimer, I'm going solely based on what the OP said happened or occurred. I have no evidence to support or claim that is what actually happened and falls in voliation of the TOS.
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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    thissler wrote: »
    Huh.

    A little banter about TRIBBLE. Slamming the cis-gender scum. Lighthearted pokes at heteros and their silly western 'religion'. Oh wait make that plural on religions.

    And, I haven't even TOUCHED on what the actual customers are posting.

    Fire away boys! Give me a SAD!

    What are actual customers?
  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Meanwhile on the SA forum:

    Druk sheds a tear as Nabreeki plots his forum ban revenge.

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  • scarlingscarling Member Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Weep for the griefers. They are just flawed humans that need help.

    the anti-social behavior of griefers could be indicative of a larger problem or disorder--such as antisocial personality disorder, impulse control problems, depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, psychotic disorders, and substance abuse.
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