See, I still maintain (and will until we are directly told otherwise) that the Kobali "reproduction" method is in fact an ancient biological warfare device gone horribly awry, and the "Kobali" are in fact extinct, replaced by the sapient viral colonies they themselves developed (probably in an attempt to combine defeating and subverting their enemies - a virus to kill them and then resurrect them to fight on the Kobali side. Elegant, if deeply disturbing). And any attempt to treat the Kobali question as if they were nothing more than another humanoid race will be flawed, and unlikely to succeed. Under this hypothesis, you see, you can't just "re-engineer" the Kobali so they can go back to having babies the normal way, because there aren't any Kobali to fix. The best you can do, if you're not going to commit genocide yourself, is to secure them a source of corpses to reanimate that won't cause a whole new Vaadwaur thing to start up. And the only way that's going to work is if the Kobali start being honest about who and what they are.
See, I still maintain (and will until we are directly told otherwise) that the Kobali "reproduction" method is in fact an ancient biological warfare device gone horribly awry, and the "Kobali" are in fact extinct, replaced by the sapient viral colonies they themselves developed (probably in an attempt to combine defeating and subverting their enemies - a virus to kill them and then resurrect them to fight on the Kobali side. Elegant, if deeply disturbing). And any attempt to treat the Kobali question as if they were nothing more than another humanoid race will be flawed, and unlikely to succeed. Under this hypothesis, you see, you can't just "re-engineer" the Kobali so they can go back to having babies the normal way, because there aren't any Kobali to fix. The best you can do, if you're not going to commit genocide yourself, is to secure them a source of corpses to reanimate that won't cause a whole new Vaadwaur thing to start up. And the only way that's going to work is if the Kobali start being honest about who and what they are.
That is an interesting viewpoint and presents some story possibilities I'd not previously considered. For example: if the original Kobali are no more, would it not be good to stress ethical honor to the viral Kobali to acknowledge this, cease their "reproduction" and instead adopt the orphans and outcasts of the Delta Quadrant, replicating Kobali culture as heir, rather than DNA mutations?
That is an interesting viewpoint and presents some story possibilities I'd not previously considered. For example: if the original Kobali are no more, would it not be good to stress ethical honor to the viral Kobali to acknowledge this, cease their "reproduction" and instead adopt the orphans and outcasts of the Delta Quadrant, replicating Kobali culture as heir, rather than DNA mutations?
I remember Riker killing the clones of himself and that old doctor when they found them. There was also the time when those bugs infected all of those officers and they had to kill them too.
Would that now mean Star Fleet would seek to destroy all of the Kobali, since they go against their ethical beliefs? Or work on a way to restore them, like they had for some of the detached Borg. I think you may be correct, this story could get really deep and interesting.
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"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
I had an idea. What if the Kobali and Vaadwaur are both Iconian puppets and the whole situation is a ruse to distract us from the Iconians' real sinister plot?
To build an intergalactic highway bypass! Diabolical!
I remember Riker killing the clones of himself and that old doctor when they found them.
I don't remember Riker ever killing his clone. I don't even remember Riker having a clone, unless you mean the result of his transporter accident - and he didn't kill his double; in fact, Thomas Riker went on to join the Maquis. (You run into Thomas' son Joshua in-game.)
I don't remember Riker ever killing his clone. I don't even remember Riker having a clone, unless you mean the result of his transporter accident - and he didn't kill his double; in fact, Thomas Riker went on to join the Maquis. (You run into Thomas' son Joshua in-game.)
That was Season 6 or 7 episode you are thinking of. Try back tracking to when Pulaski was around.
well, i think anything older than 200-300 years is going to be safe, as there would be very few alive now that were personally affected by such a thing
i just think that any ISIS references might not be the best of ideas since they're still an active terror group so people will be touchy about mention of them - hell we've already had two threads that i know of in the past 6 months complaining about supposed references between said group and the computer core in facility in 4028 (which i personally think was rather ridiculous, but that's neither here nor there)
Except the group isn't actually named Isis, or ISIS.... that's just something you see in the news.
Except the group isn't actually named Isis, or ISIS.... that's just something you see in the news.
As I mentioned when some nitwit brought that up a couple days ago, ISIS is an acronym of a translation. For some reason they call Da'ish ISIS but they don't call al-Qa'ida "the Base".
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Reporter: What is the purpose of the US military presence in Afghanistan?
Officer: We're all aboutThe Base.
Reporter: What was your reply when Saudi Arabia requested the release of an individual with suspected links to al-Qu'ida?
Officer: "All your Base are belong to us."
Reporter: What are your long-term plans for the War on Terror?
Officer: We plan to start at The Base and work our way up.
Reporter: What do you believe is the most effective way of neutralizing the al-Qu'ida?
Officer: Acid.
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That is an interesting viewpoint and presents some story possibilities I'd not previously considered. For example: if the original Kobali are no more, would it not be good to stress ethical honor to the viral Kobali to acknowledge this, cease their "reproduction" and instead adopt the orphans and outcasts of the Delta Quadrant, replicating Kobali culture as heir, rather than DNA mutations?
I remember Riker killing the clones of himself and that old doctor when they found them. There was also the time when those bugs infected all of those officers and they had to kill them too.
Would that now mean Star Fleet would seek to destroy all of the Kobali, since they go against their ethical beliefs? Or work on a way to restore them, like they had for some of the detached Borg. I think you may be correct, this story could get really deep and interesting.
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
To build an intergalactic highway bypass! Diabolical!
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That was Season 6 or 7 episode you are thinking of. Try back tracking to when Pulaski was around.
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As I mentioned when some nitwit brought that up a couple days ago, ISIS is an acronym of a translation. For some reason they call Da'ish ISIS but they don't call al-Qa'ida "the Base".
— Sabaton, "Great War"
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Reporter: What is the purpose of the US military presence in Afghanistan?
Officer: We're all aboutThe Base.
Reporter: What was your reply when Saudi Arabia requested the release of an individual with suspected links to al-Qu'ida?
Officer: "All your Base are belong to us."
Reporter: What are your long-term plans for the War on Terror?
Officer: We plan to start at The Base and work our way up.
Reporter: What do you believe is the most effective way of neutralizing the al-Qu'ida?
Officer: Acid.