Do you think he just has a switch on his desk that says, "Destroy Game." and "Fix Game." and we're just angry because he doesn't want to pull the switch from one direction to the other?
I think it goes without saying that the EP of STO has 'fixing the game' as part of his day-to-day job agenda.
Pfff, if the Goat Simulator guys can do it, D'Angelo can do it, too!
In all earnesty, I'd probably be upset if he told me to STAY. :P Nobody tells me what to do.
And my ego, unlike those spanning a few galaxies, does not extend to me wanting to hear a Dev say he wants me to stay: companies not wanting to lose customers is simply a given.
And he never said that if you don't like it, GET OUT. That's just you hyperboling. What he did say, however, is that they're trying to accommodate people, as far as is possible; but that if you really, really can't live with how they do things, that you don't have to.
Sigh. What a bizarre turn this thread has taken.
Well, he did respond, he stated exactly word for word what I wanted to hear. He didnt have to by any means. But now you can say for sure you were right. You couldnt really speak for him. He knew that. But he came in here and replied knowing it might not put an end to all of it. But he did come in here anyway. Brave.... And i see why you were so eager to defend him. Takes a big man to do that. Trully does.
I want to hear DIRECTLY from Stephen D'Angelo that HE IS GOING TO FIX THIS GAME AND FAST.
Dont mess this up... It took a lot for him to do that. He could have just stubburnly said nothing to not dignify it with a response... But he did.. which is a GREAT thing. Took Guts and a something very precious, time.
I want to hear DIRECTLY from Stephen D'Angelo that HE IS GOING TO FIX THIS GAME AND FAST.
That... might cause more problems than it's worth XD Many people would look at 'fix game' and think either 'wait, what is he fixing exactly?' or go 'oh good! finally they're fixing the game!'... the latter based on what they're assuming he's gonna fix, when it might not be what they think
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
That... might cause more problems than it's worth XD Many people would look at 'fix game' and think either 'wait, what is he fixing exactly?' or go 'oh good! finally they're fixing the game!'... the latter based on what they're assuming he's gonna fix, when it might not be what they think
That's a becareful what you wish for if I ever heard it!
That... might cause more problems than it's worth XD Many people would look at 'fix game' and think either 'wait, what is he fixing exactly?' or go 'oh good! finally they're fixing the game!'... the latter based on what they're assuming he's gonna fix, when it might not be what they think
Reassuring lies are much easier to swallow than uncomfortable truths.
Players do matter. I do not want Players to leave.
So ou say. So what if I was hating this game so much that I was literally* hurt by playing the game. Or if I had epilepsy and was getting seizures playing it? YOu'D still want me to play the game, right? I thought only a big meanie would say something heartless like that!
Mustrum "I hope people understand this sarcasm thingy" Ridcully
*) Literally apparently can mean figuratively now. I meant the literal sense, not the non-literal one.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Do you really believe any of us had trouble realizing that we could leave? Do you believe he did? Come on.
My whole post, was in response to you quoting a previous post I'd made about the same topic. I thought I would clarify, and reiterate my stance. That is all I was doing. It has nothing to do with my believe about your knowledge. You brought it up, and I attempted (and clearly failed) to clarify.
"We listen to your feedback, we record it, and we send it to the appropriate people. It is not always acted upon, but that is the industry. But, if you don't like the product, you are free to stop using it."
What he provides is a simple reality check. He isn't telling anybody to leave. He's saying that we can provide suggestions and constructive criticism to make a better game for everybody, and that they do make an effort to cater to the playerbase, but they must also be free to create their own game.
If people feel that strongly about their feedback not being acted upon, they can always just leave, but it does no help to inject venom into the forums when you can just as easily keep providing feedback.
This is a very good assessment of my intent in the first post.
This is not company policy I'm stating, it is simple facts of business transactions.
We are a business. We want you to buy our products. We want to hear about what you want from us. If you don't like what we sell, don't buy it. That doesn't mean we don't want your business.
No insult was intended or implied. I am not telling you to "STFU or GTFO" as you so eloquently put it. We want you here. We want you to play. We want you to like our game. AND we want to know what you want to play.
Taco has nothing to with being a dev for the game. Taco goes ahead and adds himself to a menu and takes all of the bullets. I must ask, why are the devs hiding behind something (in this case someone) that doesn't belong on the menu? The devs are the ones that need to respond to this thread. Taco just threw himself in the middle of something that has nothing to do with him. This company is TRIBBLE-backwards.
I was going to go with a different Stewie pic, one of him as a leather cop...
But since D.R. hit, I've felt more like Cryptic on the whole, is treating me as a bottom, rather than a Top.
TacoFang you can tell me to STFU and GTFO anytime you want, I occasionally like to be ordered around by my food.
:cool:
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Taco has nothing to with being a dev for the game. Taco goes ahead and adds himself to a menu and takes all of the bullets. I must ask, why are the devs hiding behind something (in this case someone) that doesn't belong on the menu? The devs are the ones that need to respond to this thread. Taco just threw himself in the middle of something that has nothing to do with him. This company is TRIBBLE-backwards.
Taco IS a developer. It's just that he develops environmental interiors. He doesn't develop programming.
Actually, being here since Open Beta, the forums were always volatile - sure, some said their concerns reasonably, but most were just entitled and demanding (which is what drove the devs away). Many still are
And besides, the reality is that they're a business. It's their job to decide how the game goes. We pay, and we can suggest what to do, and it's up to them to decide. But we can't expect that what we say is set in stone, then get mad that they didn't do it and demand that it be changed just because we want it this way; it doesn't work like that.
Listening to suggestions/feedback is not the same thing as doing them.
And besides, lied to is subjective, and statements can be generally directed, or at the vocal minority, etc etc... it's not a clear-cut process, and by no means will that change. We can't assume anything is easy to do, must be done above all else, anything is set in stone, or assume anything at all really.
So yes, part of the problem is with us. I don't claim all of it (never has been), but we must work with the reality of things and be reasonable about it, because it's better than hate and flaming imo
And edit, I haven't said this yet, but I should: Thank you Taco, for saying what you have
I am totally aware that its impossible to please everyone. As developing game content aswell I know this better than anyone else.
But based on what suggestions do we receive a new nerf EVERY week meanwhile?
Which suggestion or feedback is responsible for all the broken content?
IF the developers would be listening to any feedback then this game would look much different.
Bugs wouldnt exist anymore and the balance wouldnt be totally destroyed.
And yes... ive clearly used the word "lie"... for the fact that much has been promised by the devs and these promises were instantly broken.
It was announced that there is going to be a dilithium reward after maxing out the spec points. Where is that?
It was said that the new adv. games would just as hard as the old elites. That is not true.
It was said that ALL the old game content can easily be played by a level 50 captain with a normal t5 ship. Thats simply not true.
It was said last few patches would improve the xp situation on the server. The opposite is the case.
It was said that lots of fixes were done... but for some reason we can not find them on the server.
It was said that players made 17x faster progress in Japori than in other maps. Really? Well, i seriously doubt that.
Nearly every public announcement contains claims and promises which are not true.
You dont have to be a genious to see that.
At the moment Cryptic finally sticks to their promises I will change my mind but as long they keep going this way they are just untrustworthy.
I am sure that there are some good devs out there which take the blame without being actually responsible for the massive design and balancing failures of the game. I am sorry if they feel offended... I just have a big problem with that company as I absolutely dont know who is doing such is doing such idiotic and ignorant decisions there.
Taco IS a developer. It's just that he develops environmental interiors. He doesn't develop programming.
^Exactly
And as for throwing himself into the middle of something that has nothing to do with him, that's proof that he's a human being, not a robot trying to take our money - simply because he's concerned/cares enough to respond to our issues
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
My whole post, was in response to you quoting a previous post I'd made about the same topic. I thought I would clarify, and reiterate my stance. That is all I was doing. It has nothing to do with my believe about your knowledge. You brought it up, and I attempted (and clearly failed) to clarify.
This is a very good assessment of my intent in the first post.
This is not company policy I'm stating, it is simple facts of business transactions.
We are a business. We want you to buy our products. We want to hear about what you want from us. If you don't like what we sell, don't buy it. That doesn't mean we don't want your business.
No insult was intended or implied. I am not telling you to "STFU or GTFO" as you so eloquently put it. We want you here. We want you to play. We want you to like our game. AND we want to know what you want to play.
Not me, another was quoted in your origional body of work. Although I see how you could get us confused. The body of work as it stood was starteling. But clarifying it now is more then enough to quiet me. Granted some will still not believe it. Some will say it is just done to stop the complaining. But I am glad you took the time. Dont think I do not appreciate it. I take it as sincere in your desire to have a game you want us to enjoy. Thank You. I hope you dont think I am trolling, as I think if you responded you could see how some might see it a bit harsh. I hope...
But communication is a 2 way street, first the idea you have is encoded and made into a boradcastable message. (Language)
Then I have decode that message and visualize your idea. (Reading) there is a lot of room for error here.
Please see I was sincere in my acceptance of the way you intended it. If you did not intend for it to be a "GTFO" message then it wasnt. I simply did not decode the message properly.
Thank you,
from a somewhat hopeful vegetable/tribble/fat cat thing...
I am currently at work. I have lots of work to do. I check the forums maybe two or three times a day. I'm not on the forums constantly.
SO . . . when I post at 6AM, and then go off to work. The fact that I have not posted by 7:17, does not mean I am avoiding a topic, or fuming with rage. It means I'm busy. I will likely come back to that topic later.
However, even when I do, if that topic has erupted into a volcano of 47 pages of TRIBBLE and vinegar, it will take me a while to get through it all.
In the future, if there is a dispute about something I (or any dev) say, can we please leave it at the question, and wait for a response? Please?
This is a very good assessment of my intent in the first post.
This is not company policy I'm stating, it is simple facts of business transactions.
We are a business. We want you to buy our products. We want to hear about what you want from us. If you don't like what we sell, don't buy it. That doesn't mean we don't want your business.
No insult was intended or implied. I am not telling you to "STFU or GTFO" as you so eloquently put it. We want you here. We want you to play. We want you to like our game. AND we want to know what you want to play.
And this is what we all wanted to hear, this has been a huge question on peoples minds and again it has been answered and I thank you Taco for again taking the time.
They want our business, can they make everyone happy and give us all free T6 Connies or Rainbow beams that fire unicorn horns? Hell no, but they are listening and weighing what we are telling them. No one here has any problem with a company making money, I hope STO is so successful that CBS continues to give the rights so we can not only have more of this game, but another in the future.
We all want a good experience, they are wanting to give us a good experience, I will be here wether they make great changes or little ones, that's my choice.
Taco has nothing to with being a dev for the game. Taco goes ahead and adds himself to a menu and takes all of the bullets. I must ask, why are the devs hiding behind something (in this case someone) that doesn't belong on the menu? The devs are the ones that need to respond to this thread. Taco just threw himself in the middle of something that has nothing to do with him. This company is TRIBBLE-backwards.
Incorrect point #1 - Taco IS a Dev. He is an environmental developer. He can't fix the bug with layouts but he can look into why there is no handle on the coffee mug in the Voyager ready room.
Incorrect point #2 - No one is "hiding". Posting on the forums IS NOT part of their job. This has been stated since launch.
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I am currently at work. I have lots of work to do. I check the forums maybe two or three times a day. I'm not on the forums constantly.
SO . . . when I post at 6AM, and then go off to work. The fact that I have not posted by 7:17, does not mean I am avoiding a topic, or fuming with rage. It means I'm busy. I will likely come back to that topic later.
However, even when I do, if that topic has erupted into a volcano of 47 pages of TRIBBLE and vinegar, it will take me a while to get through it all.
In the future, if there is a dispute about something I (or any dev) say, can we please leave it at the question, and wait for a response? Please?
Oh damn... there ya went and destroyed my whole image of you as the Domineering type.
STO Member since February 2009. I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born! Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I am currently at work. I have lots of work to do. I check the forums maybe two or three times a day. I'm not on the forums constantly.
SO . . . when I post at 6AM, and then go off to work. The fact that I have not posted by 7:17, does not mean I am avoiding a topic, or fuming with rage. It means I'm busy. I will likely come back to that topic later.
However, even when I do, if that topic has erupted into a volcano of 47 pages of TRIBBLE and vinegar, it will take me a while to get through it all.
In the future, if there is a dispute about something I (or any dev) say, can we please leave it at the question, and wait for a response? Please?
This is something that would work in theory... But we are a community of Pitchfork carrying Witch burners... we demand Justice
And those that came to defend unfortunately make it worse in this instance as to just flaming it away before you can see it. Yeah... Mob driven justice doesnt work.. But you did respond. So we really have no where to go with it now...
I am totally aware that its impossible to please everyone. As developing game content aswell I know this better than anyone else.
But based on what suggestions do we receive a new nerf EVERY week meanwhile?
Which suggestion or feedback is responsible for all the broken content?
IF the developers would be listening to any feedback then this game would look much different.
Bugs wouldnt exist anymore and the balance wouldnt be totally destroyed.
And yes... ive clearly used the word "lie"... for the fact that much has been promised by the devs and these promises were instantly broken.
It was announced that there is going to be a dilithium reward after maxing out the spec points. Where is that?
It was said that the new adv. games would just as hard as the old elites. That is not true.
It was said that ALL the old game content can easily be played by a level 50 captain with a normal t5 ship. Thats simply not true.
It was said last few patches would improve the xp situation on the server. The opposite is the case.
It was said that lots of fixes were done... but for some reason we can not find them on the server.
It was said that players made 17x faster progress in Japori than in other maps. Really? Well, i seriously doubt that.
Nearly every public announcement contains claims and promises which are not true.
You dont have to be a genious to see that.
At the moment Cryptic finally sticks to their promises I will change my mind but as long they keep going this way they are just untrustworthy.
I am sure that there are some good devs out there which take the blame without being actually responsible for the massive design and balancing failures of the game. I am sorry if they feel offended... I just have a big problem with that company as I absolutely dont know who is doing such is doing such idiotic and ignorant decisions there.
That's just the point though; what they tell is what they INTEND to happen at the time; they're not promises, and they're not set in stone. Taking them as such as the source of many issues this forum has had with the devs
They say there's the new adv. is going to be as hard as the old elite? Intention to be so, but maybe needs to be worked on to be true
They say there's going to be a Dil reward for maxing out spec points? What they intended at the time, but was clearly changed later, as is their right.
I understand that's what they intend to happen, and what they push to happen, but I also know things can change down the line. I know that new ship I just bought can have it's stats changed, for better or worse, and it is their right to do so. I've accepted that since the game was launched, but many seem to confuse that with what they see their words as.
It's the same thing with movie trailers; they can lie, give the wrong impressions, show scenes that aren't in the final cut, etc - you must keep an open mind and not expect anything is fully set in stone
So the issue is not that they lied (as I see things), but simply a lack of communication, which is not a new issue
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Incorrect point #1 - Taco IS a Dev. He is an environmental developer. He can't fix the bug with layouts but he can look into why there is no handle on the coffee mug in the Voyager ready room.
Incorrect point #2 - No one is "hiding". Posting on the forums IS NOT part of their job. This has been stated since launch.
Granted. It just seems very odd that Taco is taking in most of the bullets and his comrades sit back and do nothing. It says a lot for Taco (willing to take the bullet) and not a lot for others behind the stage. I actually feel bad for Taco.:(
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LOL. That was totally unnecessary, as I understood it anyway.
Pfff, if the Goat Simulator guys can do it, D'Angelo can do it, too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpPxnpInNTc
Well, he did respond, he stated exactly word for word what I wanted to hear. He didnt have to by any means. But now you can say for sure you were right. You couldnt really speak for him. He knew that. But he came in here and replied knowing it might not put an end to all of it. But he did come in here anyway. Brave.... And i see why you were so eager to defend him. Takes a big man to do that. Trully does.
Dont mess this up... It took a lot for him to do that. He could have just stubburnly said nothing to not dignify it with a response... But he did.. which is a GREAT thing. Took Guts and a something very precious, time.
Please tell me what I have to look forward to.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I think They would prefer it sunnyside up...
Personally, I like mine scrambled.
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
That's a becareful what you wish for if I ever heard it!
Reassuring lies are much easier to swallow than uncomfortable truths.
Mustrum "I hope people understand this sarcasm thingy" Ridcully
*) Literally apparently can mean figuratively now. I meant the literal sense, not the non-literal one.
Love the minions quote in your sig bro!
Tacofangs,
Thank you for clarifying. It is good to see that you are concerned enough to reply back.
Can we please have an open discussion with you and the devs soon?
I really think this is something that would help the current state of affairs between the STO team and us, your customers.
Again thank you,
Zeus
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I agree entirely.
My whole post, was in response to you quoting a previous post I'd made about the same topic. I thought I would clarify, and reiterate my stance. That is all I was doing. It has nothing to do with my believe about your knowledge. You brought it up, and I attempted (and clearly failed) to clarify.
This is a very good assessment of my intent in the first post.
This is not company policy I'm stating, it is simple facts of business transactions.
We are a business. We want you to buy our products. We want to hear about what you want from us. If you don't like what we sell, don't buy it. That doesn't mean we don't want your business.
No insult was intended or implied. I am not telling you to "STFU or GTFO" as you so eloquently put it. We want you here. We want you to play. We want you to like our game. AND we want to know what you want to play.
Taco has nothing to with being a dev for the game. Taco goes ahead and adds himself to a menu and takes all of the bullets. I must ask, why are the devs hiding behind something (in this case someone) that doesn't belong on the menu? The devs are the ones that need to respond to this thread. Taco just threw himself in the middle of something that has nothing to do with him. This company is TRIBBLE-backwards.
Heh...
I was going to go with a different Stewie pic, one of him as a leather cop...
But since D.R. hit, I've felt more like Cryptic on the whole, is treating me as a bottom, rather than a Top.
TacoFang you can tell me to STFU and GTFO anytime you want, I occasionally like to be ordered around by my food.
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Taco IS a developer. It's just that he develops environmental interiors. He doesn't develop programming.
I am totally aware that its impossible to please everyone. As developing game content aswell I know this better than anyone else.
But based on what suggestions do we receive a new nerf EVERY week meanwhile?
Which suggestion or feedback is responsible for all the broken content?
IF the developers would be listening to any feedback then this game would look much different.
Bugs wouldnt exist anymore and the balance wouldnt be totally destroyed.
And yes... ive clearly used the word "lie"... for the fact that much has been promised by the devs and these promises were instantly broken.
It was announced that there is going to be a dilithium reward after maxing out the spec points. Where is that?
It was said that the new adv. games would just as hard as the old elites. That is not true.
It was said that ALL the old game content can easily be played by a level 50 captain with a normal t5 ship. Thats simply not true.
It was said last few patches would improve the xp situation on the server. The opposite is the case.
It was said that lots of fixes were done... but for some reason we can not find them on the server.
It was said that players made 17x faster progress in Japori than in other maps. Really? Well, i seriously doubt that.
Nearly every public announcement contains claims and promises which are not true.
You dont have to be a genious to see that.
At the moment Cryptic finally sticks to their promises I will change my mind but as long they keep going this way they are just untrustworthy.
I am sure that there are some good devs out there which take the blame without being actually responsible for the massive design and balancing failures of the game. I am sorry if they feel offended... I just have a big problem with that company as I absolutely dont know who is doing such is doing such idiotic and ignorant decisions there.
And as for throwing himself into the middle of something that has nothing to do with him, that's proof that he's a human being, not a robot trying to take our money - simply because he's concerned/cares enough to respond to our issues
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Not me, another was quoted in your origional body of work. Although I see how you could get us confused. The body of work as it stood was starteling. But clarifying it now is more then enough to quiet me. Granted some will still not believe it. Some will say it is just done to stop the complaining. But I am glad you took the time. Dont think I do not appreciate it. I take it as sincere in your desire to have a game you want us to enjoy. Thank You. I hope you dont think I am trolling, as I think if you responded you could see how some might see it a bit harsh. I hope...
But communication is a 2 way street, first the idea you have is encoded and made into a boradcastable message. (Language)
Then I have decode that message and visualize your idea. (Reading) there is a lot of room for error here.
Please see I was sincere in my acceptance of the way you intended it. If you did not intend for it to be a "GTFO" message then it wasnt. I simply did not decode the message properly.
Thank you,
from a somewhat hopeful vegetable/tribble/fat cat thing...
SO . . . when I post at 6AM, and then go off to work. The fact that I have not posted by 7:17, does not mean I am avoiding a topic, or fuming with rage. It means I'm busy. I will likely come back to that topic later.
However, even when I do, if that topic has erupted into a volcano of 47 pages of TRIBBLE and vinegar, it will take me a while to get through it all.
In the future, if there is a dispute about something I (or any dev) say, can we please leave it at the question, and wait for a response? Please?
And this is what we all wanted to hear, this has been a huge question on peoples minds and again it has been answered and I thank you Taco for again taking the time.
They want our business, can they make everyone happy and give us all free T6 Connies or Rainbow beams that fire unicorn horns? Hell no, but they are listening and weighing what we are telling them. No one here has any problem with a company making money, I hope STO is so successful that CBS continues to give the rights so we can not only have more of this game, but another in the future.
We all want a good experience, they are wanting to give us a good experience, I will be here wether they make great changes or little ones, that's my choice.
Incorrect point #1 - Taco IS a Dev. He is an environmental developer. He can't fix the bug with layouts but he can look into why there is no handle on the coffee mug in the Voyager ready room.
Incorrect point #2 - No one is "hiding". Posting on the forums IS NOT part of their job. This has been stated since launch.
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Oh damn... there ya went and destroyed my whole image of you as the Domineering type.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
This is something that would work in theory... But we are a community of Pitchfork carrying Witch burners... we demand Justice
And those that came to defend unfortunately make it worse in this instance as to just flaming it away before you can see it. Yeah... Mob driven justice doesnt work.. But you did respond. So we really have no where to go with it now...
Need a new Witch to hunt >.>
This is a rational and reasonable expectation to have.
They say there's the new adv. is going to be as hard as the old elite? Intention to be so, but maybe needs to be worked on to be true
They say there's going to be a Dil reward for maxing out spec points? What they intended at the time, but was clearly changed later, as is their right.
I understand that's what they intend to happen, and what they push to happen, but I also know things can change down the line. I know that new ship I just bought can have it's stats changed, for better or worse, and it is their right to do so. I've accepted that since the game was launched, but many seem to confuse that with what they see their words as.
It's the same thing with movie trailers; they can lie, give the wrong impressions, show scenes that aren't in the final cut, etc - you must keep an open mind and not expect anything is fully set in stone
So the issue is not that they lied (as I see things), but simply a lack of communication, which is not a new issue
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
You're right. . . it'll never work. . .
Granted. It just seems very odd that Taco is taking in most of the bullets and his comrades sit back and do nothing. It says a lot for Taco (willing to take the bullet) and not a lot for others behind the stage. I actually feel bad for Taco.:(
It's cynicism like this that makes the devs not want to post on the forums.