Also, considering how long STO's Foundry has been beta, I wouldn't be surprised if they released Crafting the same way. As a work-in-progress.
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the game is one giant beta anyways, even though official released back when however never left beta in that sense and its constantly changing, updating. the type of thing you would expect. so if crafting can end up the same way and become a bit more pliable after some trial and error. heres to hoping.
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Let's be optimistic, though, that S9.5 will just be the lock box and costume unlocks, as those at least have received little to no negative feedback while the crafting system and especially doffing/crafting UI have received a plethora. Besides, that is only half an hour to an hour and a half before we can go back to sharpening the pitchforks; perfect for rounding up the torches to go along with the pitchforks, as we don't want to do thing halfway.
Plus, since it's a Season x.5, it really doesn't have to share the same volume of "stuff" that the actual Seasons have, right? I know, probably overly optimistic, but I decided to be stubbornly optimistic until reality sets in :P
True, you can't say anything bad about the new outfits. Lockboxes, well can't exactly celebrate at those things, but the contents inside looked rather interesting. Though buying off the exchange will be troublesome now that they nerfed EC drops.
Abide by my conventions? Dude, give me a break, those are their conventions. They decided to have them. Pray tell, why are they maintaining a website and a forum if they're going to share the information via prviate accounts on a multitude of social sites? I mean, since using your own information venues is so last year and not hip anymore, why not cut down the losses, right?
Again they can choose whatever resources they have available. They aren't obligated to use the forums simply because they have them. That's simply your expectation, or to be a bit more elaborate your convention. Furthermore the issue here seems to be one of timing. 9.5 has not been released yet, we've simply passed beyond the point where blogs are customarily given. At the very least we can still expect a little blurb stating "9.5 is here!" when you log in following the patch tomorrow. Perhaps you wanted more anticipation, more chance to hype (lol), but again Cryptic doesn't have to engage in any in-anticipation PR schemes (ie. saying this is when to expect it) if they don't want to. You may have other preferences, but just keep it at that.
So asumming the best, you release a season and only 10% of your playerbase is aware of the release date. And they haven't failed their objectives? Well, I guess not, if their objective was noone knowing that there is a season update in STO. :rolleyes:
Yes, no one will know about the season update after tomorrow. They'll skip the inevitable announcement page on the launcher, waltz by the in-game prompt, and just flip when they see the new crafting system.
Assuming for the moment that anyone will make it all the way to crafting without being forwarned at every half-mile mark, what's the problem? If cryptic just lets this update slide in, as they shipped a few other updates in the past as well (I seem to recall S6 sneaking up on us), is it going to hurt anyone? Is it going to cause players to tip over their computer in rage and disgust because NO ONE TOLD THEM WHEN IT WAS COMING. Nope, at worst you might get "what the hell is this?" or more probably "huh..." A moment of confusion and they'll probably work it out for themselves.
Where's the drama? Where's the failure (taking your made-up numbers at face value)? Its in your imagination.
Nice. Classy. And you're acusing me of not reading your posts. This just keeps getting better and better.
I'm going to repeat myself, just for you. I have no issue with them using social sites or whatever other information venue they choose as long as that same information is provided via the official information venues of STO. I never said they should stop using tweeter of fb or whatever.
But if you don't understand the need and the professionalism to have important information (and a season release would count as important, wouldn't it?) for your business posted on your offical website and community, then you're beyond help. You're trying to defend the indefensible here.
Vice-versa.
Indefensible, unprofessional, you're throwing around quite a lot because the news isn't coming in as timely a fashion as you'd like. At the very least that's being anal but I'll just say you're projecting an unreasonably high standard onto cryptic (given again that much bigger things have come from even personal twitter accounts and still spread successfully) so you can have this minute or so of indignancy. Take a step back and consider what the practial effects of even a last minute, one sentence, "it's here!" update will be. Will it hurt the consumer? No, they'll simply get something they didn't expect. If that's pain to you, if that's even just an inconvenience, you need to live more.
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Wow. Shots are being fired in this thread over the lack of a blog entry? Do I hear the echoing cries of a thousand butts hurting?
Having said that, I ain't signing up for Twitter. I've avoided it this long for a reason, and I'm not about to let that 144-character monster swallow me whole.
True, you can't say anything bad about the new outfits. Lockboxes, well can't exactly celebrate at those things, but the contents inside looked rather interesting. Though buying off the exchange will be troublesome now that they nerfed EC drops.
Are EC drops really that much of a money maker for you guys? They're the basis of material wealth in this game but even working with the current supply of cash it isn't that hard to make a enough EC for the accessible lock box equipment from the academy doff assignments, let alone even a nerfed junk item income. You'll [practically] never make it to ship territory, but how much trouble are we really expecting at the low end with the equipment cost update (especially considering that other parts of the game [ie. crafting materials, which is certainly accessible] are probably going to see qutie a lot of inflation over the next few weeks at least)?
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Wow. Shots are being fired in this thread over the lack of a blog entry? Do I hear the echoing cries of a thousand butts hurting?
Having said that, I ain't signing up for Twitter. I've avoided it this long for a reason, and I'm not about to let that 144-character monster swallow me whole.
Pretty much. that and it's hard to say which Thursday...
Do I hear the echoing cries of a thousand butts hurting?
Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, considering that it doesn't come with the overwhelming smell usually associated with a thousand butts sounding off.
Are EC drops really that much of a money maker for you guys? They're the basis of material wealth in this game but even working with the current supply of cash it isn't that hard to make a enough EC for the accessible lock box equipment from the academy doff assignments. You'll [practically] never make it to ship territory, but how much trouble are we really expecting at the low end with the equipment cost update (especially considering that other parts of the game [ie. crafting materials] are probably going to see qutie a lot of inflation over the next few weeks)?
Look man, I'll speak for myself.
I don't go out farming for drops in Foundry farm missions nor out in Patrols. I depended on the Shield, Engine, and Deflector DOFF misisons for regular income to fund my having to spend millions of EC every day for Commodities for the Starbase Grind. So that someday my tier 3 fleet may get to Tier 5.
Now that income is gone and now I have to add EC grinding to Dilithum Grinding, Fleet Mark Grinding and now the Crafting grinding. And then repeat this for multiple characters. That turns STO is nothing but a job! And to boot, EC is likely going to now go to Crafting Materials sold on the Exchange for insane ammounts, because Cryptic thinks it's fun to go do Elite Queued events all the time.
This is one of the main reasons why 9.5 pisses me off. The other is them ruining the DOFF UI and turning Crafting into another Reputation grind.
Again they can choose whatever resources they have available. They aren't obligated to use the forums simply because they have them. That's simply your expectation, or to be a bit more elaborate your convention. Furthermore the issue here seems to be one of timing. 9.5 has not been released yet, we've simply passed beyond the point where blogs are customarily given. At the very least we can still expect a little blurb stating "9.5 is here!" when you log in following the patch tomorrow. Perhaps you wanted more anticipation, more chance to hype (lol), but again Cryptic doesn't have to engage in any in-anticipation PR schemes (ie. saying this is when to expect it) if they don't want to. You may have other preferences, but just keep it at that.
Yes, no one will know about the season update after tomorrow. They'll skip the inevitable announcement page on the launcher, waltz by the in-game prompt, and just flip when they see the new crafting system.
Assuming for the moment that anyone will make it all the way to crafting without being forwarned at every half-mile mark, what's the problem? If cryptic just lets this update slide in, as they shipped a few other updates in the past as well (I seem to recall S6 sneaking up on us), is it going to hurt anyone? Is it going to cause players to tip over their computer in rage and disgust because NO ONE TOLD THEM WHEN IT WAS COMING. Nope, at worst you might get "what the hell is this?" or more probably "huh..." A moment of confusion and they'll probably work it out for themselves.
Where's the drama? Where's the failure (taking your made-up numbers at face value)? Its in your imagination.
Indefensible, unprofessional, you're throwing around quite a lot because the news isn't coming in as timely a fashion as you'd like. At the very least that's being anal but I'll just say you're projecting an unreasonably high standard onto cryptic (given again that much bigger things have come from even personal twitter accounts and still spread successfully) so you can have this minute or so of indignancy. Take a step back and consider what the practial effects of even a last minute, one sentence, "it's here!" update will be. Will it hurt the consumer? No, they'll simply get something they didn't expect. If that's pain to you, if that's even just an inconvenience, you need to live more.
Look dude, what you fail, or better said don't want to understand on purpose is that my expectations in terms of this were formed by Cryptic themselves over a long time playing STO. They are stepping away from their usual, established and proven to be functional way of handling things like anouncements, releaseas, etc. I didn't make this up from thin air. Cryptic has changed the way they operate to the worse and I'm just calling them out on it.
If they wanted to slip updates below the radar, then why the hell did they decide to start making .5 Season releases in 2014. They could have just continued releasing seasons and put the ongoing updates to them in regular patches. The fact that they started hyping S8.5!, S9.5! doesn't go well with your assumption here. The cold hard fact is that someone or someones is/are not doing their job very well around here.
Maybe you're ok with the game's quality decreasing, but that doesn't mean others have to conform. I've seen you around in threads trying to justify and defend any and every stupid decision Cryptic has made lately, including the missing graphics of space weapons I mentioned before.
If you want to be a blind Crpytic fanboy, more power to you. See if I care. Just don't try to justify something that is obviously flawed. Say that you love it all you like, but don't try to convince people that they are wrong by not accepting sub-par service and similar TRIBBLE.
Anyway, I'm done with you here. You can reply if you want....or not, I'm stopping this because bluegeek asked us to.
I'm not really caring about what's in 9.5, that's not why I want the blogs. I want to know about what is in the new lock box and the states of the ships.
Pretty much this...it ticks my ocd not to have the dev blog schedule from pretty much every other lockbox followed. I may be the anomoly, but having a day or 2 to look over the stats and think about that shiny new console actually make me more tempted to try opening a few boxes (although I know that that reward mechanism in my brain is a fault in the human physiology) :rolleyes:
I love how the latest Tribble update was more about raising the cost of fleet and reputation weapons (so people will be more motivated to spend time in the game crafting) instead of fixing the many bugs and addressing complaints from the players who are testing the new crafting/doff system on Tribble.
:rolleyes:
It would be bad enough that the cost of good gear is going up, but combine the price hike for fleet/reputation gear with the messed up crafting/doff system (unless it is magically fixed in less than 24 hours) and you have a recipe for Trek nerd rage far worse than the typical nerd rage around here.
EDIT/UPDATE: It looks like the devs are already backtracking a bit on the pricing changes from what was initially posted in the Tribble update/patch notes
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
Look dude, what you fail, or better said don't want to understand on purpose is that my expectations in terms of this were formed by Cryptic themselves over a long time playing STO. They are stepping away from their usual, established and proven to be functional way of handling things like anouncements, releaseas, etc. I didn't make this up from thin air. Cryptic has changed the way they operate to the worse and I'm just calling them out on it.
If they wanted to slip updates below the radar, then why the hell did they decide to start making .5 Season releases in 2014. They could have just continued releasing seasons and put the ongoing updates to them in regular patches. The fact that they started hyping S8.5!, S9.5! doesn't go well with your assumption here. The cold hard fact is that someone or someones is/are not doing their job very well around here.
Maybe you're ok with the game's quality decreasing, but that doesn't mean others have to conform. I've seen you around in threads trying to justify and defend any and every stupid decision Cryptic has made lately, including the missing graphics of space weapons I mentioned before.
If you want to be a blind Crpytic fanboy, more power to you. See if I care. Just don't try to justify something that is obviously flawed. Say that you love it all you like, but don't try to convince people that they are wrong by not accepting sub-par service and similar TRIBBLE.
Anyway, I'm done with you here. You can reply if you want....or not, I'm stopping this because bluegeek asked us to.
What was the point in getting the last word in after someone asked you to stop? I don't think such a request offered room for childish mudslinging from the other side of the fence.
if crafting not coming tomorrow what point of season 9.5 if all its going to be is a uniform update sorry that not even half a season thats just a patch
Um, isn't every day STO complaints day? Its not as if people are merely providing feedback in direct response the to particular issues they encounter...:P
Indeed, but for those who do not likeSTO complaints day, we have set aside the fifth Tuesday in Juvember to be STO complaint-free day.
True, you can't say anything bad about the new outfits. Lockboxes, well can't exactly celebrate at those things, but the contents inside looked rather interesting. Though buying off the exchange will be troublesome now that they nerfed EC drops.
Contents? other than some images from a google search and the twitter posts in this thread? Quantifiable stuff?
If they wanted to slip updates below the radar, then why the hell did they decide to start making .5 Season releases in 2014. They could have just continued releasing seasons and put the ongoing updates to them in regular patches. The fact that they started hyping S8.5!, S9.5! doesn't go well with your assumption here. The cold hard fact is that someone or someones is/are not doing their job very well around here.
Am I the only one who remembers Season 1.2?
Minor releases are nothing new.
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This is for those of you asking for official word from cryptic... this is as official as it'll get...
There you go. It's official as official gets.
Lot of material there... it'll be interesting.
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Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Someone shot it with a photon torpedo.
True, you can't say anything bad about the new outfits. Lockboxes, well can't exactly celebrate at those things, but the contents inside looked rather interesting. Though buying off the exchange will be troublesome now that they nerfed EC drops.
Yeah the foundry has been in "Beta" for years. But that was in title, while crafting is literally new and still in testing.
Again they can choose whatever resources they have available. They aren't obligated to use the forums simply because they have them. That's simply your expectation, or to be a bit more elaborate your convention. Furthermore the issue here seems to be one of timing. 9.5 has not been released yet, we've simply passed beyond the point where blogs are customarily given. At the very least we can still expect a little blurb stating "9.5 is here!" when you log in following the patch tomorrow. Perhaps you wanted more anticipation, more chance to hype (lol), but again Cryptic doesn't have to engage in any in-anticipation PR schemes (ie. saying this is when to expect it) if they don't want to. You may have other preferences, but just keep it at that.
Yes, no one will know about the season update after tomorrow. They'll skip the inevitable announcement page on the launcher, waltz by the in-game prompt, and just flip when they see the new crafting system.
Assuming for the moment that anyone will make it all the way to crafting without being forwarned at every half-mile mark, what's the problem? If cryptic just lets this update slide in, as they shipped a few other updates in the past as well (I seem to recall S6 sneaking up on us), is it going to hurt anyone? Is it going to cause players to tip over their computer in rage and disgust because NO ONE TOLD THEM WHEN IT WAS COMING. Nope, at worst you might get "what the hell is this?" or more probably "huh..." A moment of confusion and they'll probably work it out for themselves.
Where's the drama? Where's the failure (taking your made-up numbers at face value)? Its in your imagination.
Indefensible, unprofessional, you're throwing around quite a lot because the news isn't coming in as timely a fashion as you'd like. At the very least that's being anal but I'll just say you're projecting an unreasonably high standard onto cryptic (given again that much bigger things have come from even personal twitter accounts and still spread successfully) so you can have this minute or so of indignancy. Take a step back and consider what the practial effects of even a last minute, one sentence, "it's here!" update will be. Will it hurt the consumer? No, they'll simply get something they didn't expect. If that's pain to you, if that's even just an inconvenience, you need to live more.
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Are EC drops really that much of a money maker for you guys? They're the basis of material wealth in this game but even working with the current supply of cash it isn't that hard to make a enough EC for the accessible lock box equipment from the academy doff assignments, let alone even a nerfed junk item income. You'll [practically] never make it to ship territory, but how much trouble are we really expecting at the low end with the equipment cost update (especially considering that other parts of the game [ie. crafting materials, which is certainly accessible] are probably going to see qutie a lot of inflation over the next few weeks at least)?
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Look man, I'll speak for myself.
I don't go out farming for drops in Foundry farm missions nor out in Patrols. I depended on the Shield, Engine, and Deflector DOFF misisons for regular income to fund my having to spend millions of EC every day for Commodities for the Starbase Grind. So that someday my tier 3 fleet may get to Tier 5.
Now that income is gone and now I have to add EC grinding to Dilithum Grinding, Fleet Mark Grinding and now the Crafting grinding. And then repeat this for multiple characters. That turns STO is nothing but a job! And to boot, EC is likely going to now go to Crafting Materials sold on the Exchange for insane ammounts, because Cryptic thinks it's fun to go do Elite Queued events all the time.
This is one of the main reasons why 9.5 pisses me off. The other is them ruining the DOFF UI and turning Crafting into another Reputation grind.
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
Modern civilization is in Beta.
I don't know if this should be trolled or if we should be mashing the report button...
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I'd have gone with modern civilization has been in maintenance mode and is waiting for the next release to come along to replace it.
Look dude, what you fail, or better said don't want to understand on purpose is that my expectations in terms of this were formed by Cryptic themselves over a long time playing STO. They are stepping away from their usual, established and proven to be functional way of handling things like anouncements, releaseas, etc. I didn't make this up from thin air. Cryptic has changed the way they operate to the worse and I'm just calling them out on it.
If they wanted to slip updates below the radar, then why the hell did they decide to start making .5 Season releases in 2014. They could have just continued releasing seasons and put the ongoing updates to them in regular patches. The fact that they started hyping S8.5!, S9.5! doesn't go well with your assumption here. The cold hard fact is that someone or someones is/are not doing their job very well around here.
Maybe you're ok with the game's quality decreasing, but that doesn't mean others have to conform. I've seen you around in threads trying to justify and defend any and every stupid decision Cryptic has made lately, including the missing graphics of space weapons I mentioned before.
If you want to be a blind Crpytic fanboy, more power to you. See if I care. Just don't try to justify something that is obviously flawed. Say that you love it all you like, but don't try to convince people that they are wrong by not accepting sub-par service and similar TRIBBLE.
Anyway, I'm done with you here. You can reply if you want....or not, I'm stopping this because bluegeek asked us to.
Pretty much this...it ticks my ocd not to have the dev blog schedule from pretty much every other lockbox followed. I may be the anomoly, but having a day or 2 to look over the stats and think about that shiny new console actually make me more tempted to try opening a few boxes (although I know that that reward mechanism in my brain is a fault in the human physiology) :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
It would be bad enough that the cost of good gear is going up, but combine the price hike for fleet/reputation gear with the messed up crafting/doff system (unless it is magically fixed in less than 24 hours) and you have a recipe for Trek nerd rage far worse than the typical nerd rage around here.
EDIT/UPDATE: It looks like the devs are already backtracking a bit on the pricing changes from what was initially posted in the Tribble update/patch notes
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
What was the point in getting the last word in after someone asked you to stop? I don't think such a request offered room for childish mudslinging from the other side of the fence.
Captaincy, Excelsior-Class U.S.S. Bianca Beauchamp NCC-99947-F
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
system Lord Baal is dead
Indeed, but for those who do not likeSTO complaints day, we have set aside the fifth Tuesday in Juvember to be STO complaint-free day.
Contents? other than some images from a google search and the twitter posts in this thread? Quantifiable stuff?
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1166951
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1166961
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/6004623-release-notes%3A-july-17%2C-2014
This is for those of you asking for official word from cryptic... this is as official as it'll get...
Am I the only one who remembers Season 1.2?
Minor releases are nothing new.
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http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=160617
system Lord Baal is dead
There you go. It's official as official gets.
Lot of material there... it'll be interesting.
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