I don't even have the amount of vocabulary required to correctly relate the feelings of disbelief and disgust at how completely overpowered this thing is going to be.
Hmm. The luxury tub actually looks less powerful than I was expecting, given the pattern set by the Undine ships and then the Tempest.
It kind of reminds me of the Fleet Vor'Cha, but with a more Eng heavy slant - somewhere between the Vor'Cha and Negh'Var, actually. Interesting that Cryptic didn't just make it a battlecruiser and let it use dual cannons, given how well it fits in with those ships rather than the traditional cruisers.
On the whole I don't think I'll bother with it - there are already plenty of similar ships that are just a bit better focused on their role, like the Vor'Cha and Excelsior.
Sounds like a fun Risian ship with exterior features limits on the animated interior holo-deck to create indoor/outdoor pools, island an etc. I guess developers could put the time and efforts into this if network engineers / technicians would need to roll in another advance server to handle the balance load of the nodes (devices) with current technology limits? Like everyone wants the new ESD interior features on this new Risian ship and not just the standard default ones you get. Bridge and Duty Officers just beam in when your move around your ship interior and few of the duty officers you can interact with. Day will come when you can do more right now your limited to what they have to offer you.
I don't even have the amount of vocabulary required to correctly relate the feelings of disbelief and disgust at how completely overpowered this thing is going to be.
29 pages and still NO INFO on what the discount will be, even though the event starts in few hours.. Dev posted 2 replies (I think there were 2), thats not much for so many questions written in this thread...
Something went very, very wrong with the STO universe, when the luxury liner has more HPs and better specs than battle cruisers, designed specifically for armed conflicts.
Are we to expect that every single new promo/event will pop up with more potent and powerful warships than all previous ones? There's no trace of logic (other that Cryptic marketing logic) in that.
29 pages and still NO INFO on what the discount will be, even though the event starts in few hours.. Dev posted 2 replies (I think there were 2), thats not much for so many questions written in this thread...
This was answered by someone that linked to a dev post in a different thread. The discount reduces the cost of the ship for your alts to 40 pearls. Or just 1 run. Do the 1k run on your main and do ONE run on each alt to get the ship on them.
This was found by people that had the Risia ship from last time still slotted when s9 went live. The cost for them to complete the project dropped to 40 pearls and a dev said that that is correct.
No... that can't be it. That would make far too much sense....
Actually, the vendor is still on Risa, has been since last year. He just doesn't have the new inventory in yet.
prierin, when you beam down to the Risa Resort, take a right along the boardwalk from where you beam in, then take the next right. That round platform should have both the taylor and the vendor.
Yay I expected something more funny and original than "another standard cruiser"
My tip:
Hull : 38k
Shield: 1.3
Weapons: 3 fore 4 aft- fused defensive energy ball launcher creates 3 mines, 30 sec reload
significantly reduce Flight Speed and Turn rate for 15 sec per mine and chance to confuse , this mines can not be destroyed by energy attacks (something against FAW spammers ). That "mines" look like discoballs.
Device: 4
Bridge: cmdr. Eng , lt.cmrd Sci , 2x lt. Uni , ens. Eng
Console: 2 Tac , 5 Eng , 3 Sci
Base turn : 8
Impulse: 0.25
Inertia: 30
+10 shield and +10 engine power
Cruiser Communications Array
bank , exchange , mail , dabo and tailor on board
Console - universal - Deceleration field transmitter
To all enemies within 3 km
-30% flight speed , turn rate , power recharge speed and energy damage
This was answered by someone that linked to a dev post in a different thread. The discount reduces the cost of the ship for your alts to 40 pearls. Or just 1 run. Do the 1k run on your main and do ONE run on each alt to get the ship on them.
This was found by people that had the Risia ship from last time still slotted when s9 went live. The cost for them to complete the project dropped to 40 pearls and a dev said that that is correct.
This was, however, not confirmed that it will be like that when it goes live. They can still change the amount of pearls we need for the other toons.
But, if it really is only 40 pearls/1 run for other toons, its really great as I didnt expect such a huge discount, and cryptic did well at least on this part. :-)
This was answered by someone that linked to a dev post in a different thread. The discount reduces the cost of the ship for your alts to 40 pearls. Or just 1 run. Do the 1k run on your main and do ONE run on each alt to get the ship on them.
This was found by people that had the Risia ship from last time still slotted when s9 went live. The cost for them to complete the project dropped to 40 pearls and a dev said that that is correct.
This was, however, not confirmed that it will be like that when it goes live. They can still change the amount of pearls we need for the other toons.
But, if it really is only 40 pearls/1 run for other toons, its really great as I didnt expect such a huge discount, and cryptic did well at least on this part. :-)
Given how easy is to switch a single nuber and the fact we were still not told means the eventual discount when it goes live could be anything.
And I really hope the GMs have a very good reason not to be on this forum and not trying to answer questions.
Both blogs are woefully incomplete and the event is supposed to start within hours. If it weren't for Crypticquack (thanks again for showing up here), we'd still have no idea about the bridge.
And heck, I sure would think 'all the amenities' means at least mail, exchange, bank on the bridge.
Btw, to those arguing the Chel Grett also didn't get a custom interior: It was the first Breen winter ship, it got a bridge when the second Breen winter ship (Plesh Brek) came. The Risian corvette was the first Risian summer ship. It didn't have a bridge. I was expecting them to retroactively add Risian bridges to the corvette when the new bridge comes with the cruiser. And well, you know the rest...
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Given how easy is to switch a single nuber and the fact we were still not told means the eventual discount when it goes live could be anything.
And I really hope the GMs have a very good reason not to be on this forum and not trying to answer questions.
Both blogs are woefully incomplete and the event is supposed to start within hours. If it weren't for Crypticquack (thanks again for showing up here), we'd still have no idea about the bridge.
And heck, I sure would think 'all the amenities' means at least mail, exchange, bank on the bridge.
Btw, to those arguing the Chel Grett also didn't get a custom interior: It was the first Breen winter ship, it got a bridge when the second Breen winter ship (Plesh Brek) came. The Risian corvette was the first Risian summer ship. It didn't have a bridge. I was expecting them to retroactively add Risian bridges to the corvette when the new bridge comes with the cruiser. And well, you know the rest...
First rule of STO : Never get optimistic with Cryptic.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Well, to be honest expecting a response from Trendy that doesn't involve overuse of the word 'bacon' might be wishful thinking.
At this point I'd take even a post about bacon.
The only thing the GMs posted after the reported fire in the PWE centrale was the last blog. Not a single other post, despite all the great opportunities, despite all the raised questions, nothing...
We still lack details about the ship discounts, about most of the events on Risa.
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Something went very, very wrong with the STO universe, when the luxury liner has more HPs and better specs than battle cruisers, designed specifically for armed conflicts.
Are we to expect that every single new promo/event will pop up with more potent and powerful warships than all previous ones? There's no trace of logic (other that Cryptic marketing logic) in that.
It's a converted luxury cruiser, and now pretty much the Risian Fleet equivalent of a Galaxy-class, I guess... Hence the RXS prefix instead of just SS or something. (Speaking of which, what's RXS stand for?)
I couldn't help but laugh when a lot of players actually thought there was gonna be a custom bridge...really? After the epic fail design of the interior...wait I mean the two rooms...inside the Scimitar Warbirds, people actually think they will work on more interiors? /facepalm Don't get ya hopes up because it seems those features are overrated and gone for any future updates. I would love to see Rom ships and the new ships get custom upgraded interiors but not gonna happen it seems. For those who blah blah about "bridge interiors" aren't important lol save ya breath that's your opinion and there's a helluva a lot more players like me that enjoy our custom interiors and use them quite often whether it's important or not...:rolleyes:
( During the mission: "A Step Between Stars", aboard the R.R.W. Fallenstar )
Tovan Khev - Captain the shields can't hold much longer, the sun's heat has already shutdown our turbolifts!"
Kira - We don't even have any turbolifts...now let's get to Admiral Tuvok.
Tovan Khev - Oh um, right...ready to beam you down on your order, oh wait do we even have a transporter room?
I was curious, so I looked it up. The Luxury Cruiser is only the second cross-faction ship to have a full comm array.... the first was the Galor. Every other cross faction ship with a comm array has only a partial comm array.
For Romulans and Klingons this is pretty cool since they don't have many options there. Romulan faction ships don't have comm arrays at all, and Klingons don't have any with a full array.
This isn't really noteworthy, or even exceptional. The Risa Barge is a standard Cruiser: It does not have the ability to use cannons or have a hangar bay, so isn't a Battlecruiser, and thus receives the Cruiser 4-command set. In comparison, the other crossfactional cruisers have the extra frills, either being "Battlecruisers" and being able to use cannons, or being Flight Deck or Dreadnought Cruisers and thus having the command sets of those.
Technically speaking this is a resort area, so really needs some sort of Visitor Welcome Center on Risa when you beam in or have the choice to go to such a place. More about how to get the swim wear or Risa Sunglasses which I did find that on the exchange for outrageous amount of EC. So Event(task) needs to be done. Like one night walking on the beach there was guy (NPC) telling me there was dance event. But again either post signs or some sort of messaging system about event. Like they do at in real world. Even have sky writer displaying the message.
Wait, wait wait - the Galaxy "dreadnaught" can't have a LTC tactical, but this random luxury liner can? Once again a cruiser that puts the former flagship of Starfleet to shame - and it's a cruise liner. Buck that "Lobi consortium magic" dung, this is just stupid.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Well, at least we now know where the Galaxy Class improvement ideas went.
IKR?? I'm willing to bet that if they revamped the Galaxy with this layout and gave this Risian ship the current Galaxy layout but make leisure interiors and amenities within - you'd have both groups of players satisfied.
But nooooo why give people what they want when we can have a half-arsed revamp and a half-arsed luxury liner? :rolleyes:
I like the ship, but... it's just another ship. I am quite content with my ships I have now, as far as battle-capabilities go. I am REALLY disappointed that there is no unique interior, although I kind of saw that one coming.
The atrium on the exterior view almost fooled me into thinking it was a place you could actually go. I love the look, actually, and the exterior customizabilty seems good.
But the interior... that was what I was looking forward to.
You have 3 ship Atrium selections, Forest, Islands, or Blast Doors
We were unable create a custom bridge for the summer ships, much to the dismay of the entire team. Things happen.
You have two alternate part options for many parts of the ship, missionpod/smokestack, 1 bottom ring/2 bottom rings, 2 engines/3 engines, double stanchion/regular stanchion, etc.
The ship shares all of the crazy custom color choices of the Corvette created by Adam, you can fly around in your own hot pink ship if you want! I even divided the ship up into many different parts so that you can have even more customization.
The Atrium forcefield is tied to your glowy bits color choices(thank Jamz for that), there are 8 unique forcefield patterns.
There is no playable custom interior space for the forest/islands. That would be an incredible amount of work, and this ship was already tons of work to begin with.
The ship's sails animate when in sector space, they open up to reveal sails along with the rear 'rudder'.
Any other questions, within reason, and I will try to answer.
Thanks, and I hope you guys enjoy your time on Risa, I'll see you there!
-Nick
If, for the next summer event, there is still no custom bridge, the Alpha Quadrant-Undine-Iconian war will be nothing compared to what the players with laser torchs and pitchforks will prepare for you.:D
You have 3 ship Atrium selections, Forest, Islands, or Blast Doors
We were unable create a custom bridge for the summer ships, much to the dismay of the entire team. Things happen.
You have two alternate part options for many parts of the ship, missionpod/smokestack, 1 bottom ring/2 bottom rings, 2 engines/3 engines, double stanchion/regular stanchion, etc.
The ship shares all of the crazy custom color choices of the Corvette created by Adam, you can fly around in your own hot pink ship if you want! I even divided the ship up into many different parts so that you can have even more customization.
The Atrium forcefield is tied to your glowy bits color choices(thank Jamz for that), there are 8 unique forcefield patterns.
There is no playable custom interior space for the forest/islands. That would be an incredible amount of work, and this ship was already tons of work to begin with.
The ship's sails animate when in sector space, they open up to reveal sails along with the rear 'rudder'.
Any other questions, within reason, and I will try to answer.
Thanks, and I hope you guys enjoy your time on Risa, I'll see you there!
-Nick
Well.... well.... well... DAMIT JIM I"M A STARSHIP ENGINEER NOT A... oh wait, I am a.. oh never mind!
Next year maybe? Special event project.. something from Q? ((A Q mini winter wonderland interior.. with ice skating!)) and open up the interior to be usable by the players.. and tie a bridge into it! ...The captain of course has a lift to the bridge level for himself and.. guests of course.. The Captain is STILL the Captain.. And a higher then 20 ship instance population cap..
You could do it by the winter event... Get excited.. this IS something totally different.
Over a year ago (I think) I suggested on these forums months back adding as a "faction" Civilian's with Work a day type starships, capable of self defense. Everything from "Liners" to Privately owned research and exploration ship, colony ships, Bulk freighters, and the list goes on. Government war ships make up only a fraction of the star ships plying the stars.. the majority of the hulls and tonnage out there in engaged in commerce. You think a modern wet navy American super carrier is big.. There's far more super tankers on the worlds oceans then there are super carriers, And more container ships LNG Carriers, Bulk ore and grain carriers, and passenger ships then in all the worlds navies.. And that's not even touching fishing fleets.
Hopefully there will be a bridge, for these ships and a usable atrium that's more then literally "window dressing" eventually. You do have players that want to have fun play in the Trek universe that does not involve constant combat.
I wish that the team had been able to finish it. And I'm asking for an assurance that the team will continue to work on it please. I'm sure you got very close! And now that its stand and deliver time, you've got what you've got. Maybe it'll allow you to do even more with it now that the "OMG Freaking Dead Line" time is out of the way.
Make it pretty when you get to it.. Have options for the player (slip in a bridge for the Risian Corvette while your at it...) as far as layout and color. And for crying out loud.. allow more then 20 players in the ship interior instance at a time.. (Go for 50 or 60) The demand, the desire is there. Don't let the nay sayers convince you otherwise.
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It kind of reminds me of the Fleet Vor'Cha, but with a more Eng heavy slant - somewhere between the Vor'Cha and Negh'Var, actually. Interesting that Cryptic didn't just make it a battlecruiser and let it use dual cannons, given how well it fits in with those ships rather than the traditional cruisers.
On the whole I don't think I'll bother with it - there are already plenty of similar ships that are just a bit better focused on their role, like the Vor'Cha and Excelsior.
Time will only tell!
Watch that thing outperform the Galaxy Ds
What about the modern day cruise ships that had those incidents with broken internal sewage systems & the norovirus handling?
lol, cryptic quality, right there.
Are we to expect that every single new promo/event will pop up with more potent and powerful warships than all previous ones? There's no trace of logic (other that Cryptic marketing logic) in that.
This was answered by someone that linked to a dev post in a different thread. The discount reduces the cost of the ship for your alts to 40 pearls. Or just 1 run. Do the 1k run on your main and do ONE run on each alt to get the ship on them.
This was found by people that had the Risia ship from last time still slotted when s9 went live. The cost for them to complete the project dropped to 40 pearls and a dev said that that is correct.
Actually, the vendor is still on Risa, has been since last year. He just doesn't have the new inventory in yet.
prierin, when you beam down to the Risa Resort, take a right along the boardwalk from where you beam in, then take the next right. That round platform should have both the taylor and the vendor.
My tip:
Hull : 38k
Shield: 1.3
Weapons: 3 fore 4 aft- fused defensive energy ball launcher creates 3 mines, 30 sec reload
significantly reduce Flight Speed and Turn rate for 15 sec per mine and chance to confuse , this mines can not be destroyed by energy attacks (something against FAW spammers
Device: 4
Bridge: cmdr. Eng , lt.cmrd Sci , 2x lt. Uni , ens. Eng
Console: 2 Tac , 5 Eng , 3 Sci
Base turn : 8
Impulse: 0.25
Inertia: 30
+10 shield and +10 engine power
Cruiser Communications Array
bank , exchange , mail , dabo and tailor on board
Console - universal - Deceleration field transmitter
To all enemies within 3 km
-30% flight speed , turn rate , power recharge speed and energy damage
It's working as intended.^^
This was, however, not confirmed that it will be like that when it goes live. They can still change the amount of pearls we need for the other toons.
But, if it really is only 40 pearls/1 run for other toons, its really great as I didnt expect such a huge discount, and cryptic did well at least on this part. :-)
Risian Luxury Cruiser
Yes, I fly a Dreadnought cruiser. Deal with it.
Given how easy is to switch a single nuber and the fact we were still not told means the eventual discount when it goes live could be anything.
And I really hope the GMs have a very good reason not to be on this forum and not trying to answer questions.
Both blogs are woefully incomplete and the event is supposed to start within hours. If it weren't for Crypticquack (thanks again for showing up here), we'd still have no idea about the bridge.
And heck, I sure would think 'all the amenities' means at least mail, exchange, bank on the bridge.
Btw, to those arguing the Chel Grett also didn't get a custom interior: It was the first Breen winter ship, it got a bridge when the second Breen winter ship (Plesh Brek) came. The Risian corvette was the first Risian summer ship. It didn't have a bridge. I was expecting them to retroactively add Risian bridges to the corvette when the new bridge comes with the cruiser. And well, you know the rest...
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
First rule of STO : Never get optimistic with Cryptic.
At this point I'd take even a post about bacon.
The only thing the GMs posted after the reported fire in the PWE centrale was the last blog. Not a single other post, despite all the great opportunities, despite all the raised questions, nothing...
We still lack details about the ship discounts, about most of the events on Risa.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
It's a converted luxury cruiser, and now pretty much the Risian Fleet equivalent of a Galaxy-class, I guess... Hence the RXS prefix instead of just SS or something. (Speaking of which, what's RXS stand for?)
Heh, yeah.
Time will only tell!
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IKR?? I'm willing to bet that if they revamped the Galaxy with this layout and gave this Risian ship the current Galaxy layout but make leisure interiors and amenities within - you'd have both groups of players satisfied.
But nooooo why give people what they want when we can have a half-arsed revamp and a half-arsed luxury liner? :rolleyes:
Cryptic - the masters of half-arsedness.
The atrium on the exterior view almost fooled me into thinking it was a place you could actually go. I love the look, actually, and the exterior customizabilty seems good.
But the interior... that was what I was looking forward to.
Well.... well.... well... DAMIT JIM I"M A STARSHIP ENGINEER NOT A... oh wait, I am a.. oh never mind!
Next year maybe? Special event project.. something from Q? ((A Q mini winter wonderland interior.. with ice skating!)) and open up the interior to be usable by the players.. and tie a bridge into it! ...The captain of course has a lift to the bridge level for himself and.. guests of course.. The Captain is STILL the Captain.. And a higher then 20 ship instance population cap..
You could do it by the winter event... Get excited.. this IS something totally different.
Over a year ago (I think) I suggested on these forums months back adding as a "faction" Civilian's with Work a day type starships, capable of self defense. Everything from "Liners" to Privately owned research and exploration ship, colony ships, Bulk freighters, and the list goes on. Government war ships make up only a fraction of the star ships plying the stars.. the majority of the hulls and tonnage out there in engaged in commerce. You think a modern wet navy American super carrier is big.. There's far more super tankers on the worlds oceans then there are super carriers, And more container ships LNG Carriers, Bulk ore and grain carriers, and passenger ships then in all the worlds navies.. And that's not even touching fishing fleets.
Hopefully there will be a bridge, for these ships and a usable atrium that's more then literally "window dressing" eventually. You do have players that want to have fun play in the Trek universe that does not involve constant combat.
I wish that the team had been able to finish it. And I'm asking for an assurance that the team will continue to work on it please. I'm sure you got very close! And now that its stand and deliver time, you've got what you've got. Maybe it'll allow you to do even more with it now that the "OMG Freaking Dead Line" time is out of the way.
Make it pretty when you get to it.. Have options for the player (slip in a bridge for the Risian Corvette while your at it...) as far as layout and color. And for crying out loud.. allow more then 20 players in the ship interior instance at a time.. (Go for 50 or 60) The demand, the desire is there. Don't let the nay sayers convince you otherwise.
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