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Does any dev actually want these in STO?
Cause I do.
I really do.
;_;
Cause I do.
I really do.
;_;
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Content isn't scaled equally, it's scaled by popularity. And since the Star Trek franchise has always centered around the Federation, having a disproportionately large amount of Federation ships is justified. =D
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Pretty much this. In one of the podcasts (I think it was Priority One? Or was it STOked), he was even reluctant to put the Constellation in the game but says it'll probably happen only because they have most of the parts for it and he can make the Picard Maneuver console for it.
But, OP, who knows? Maybe they would make a "Misfits Bundle" or "Worf 359 Graveyard Bundle". It'll just be a package of skins or something.
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And yes, I would settle for a "Wolf 359 Graveyard Skins Bundle", especially if each of those skins could be applied to tier 5 refits/retrofits.
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Subjectively I'm with you, I don't like the one-nacelle designs very much. Still, they are canon, Cryptic's inventions aren't and many of them don't even fit with the basic design philosophies of the IP and would belong in other games. And that's where I personally say I prefer a ship that I don't really like over one that has no business in a Star Trek game.
I'm not opposing Cryptic's ship per se as well. I really like the 2409 refit approach since it keeps the original designs intact but integrates them in a 2409 future vision. And new non-canon designs are also welcome in my opinion as long as they make sense in the context of the IP and not just because someone thinks "that show was cooler, I want that ship in this game".
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What are those design philosophies now...?
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I would love them to be in game, but apparently Geckos opinion trumps canon, yet still allows the abomination that is playable Undine ships in the game. :rolleyes:
I wont even get started on the Dinosaurs lol
Which is true, but you know exactly what I mean. No need to twist around terminology
I mean that a work of fiction that is based on a IP should first and foremost respect the IP at hand and that means using all the "hard canon" starships we saw on-screen before they design their own ships. That would be circumvented if good reasons would lock out a bunch of canon ships, like "This game is set in the 25th century and lots of the old designs have been outdated" - yet, STO did not have the "balls" to do so and instead is just a casual theme park MMO and as such, every canon ship should be implemented.
Only the basic stuff that has been discussed in great detail numerous times. Starfighters in Star Trek make no sense, Cryptics (and a huge chunk of the playerbase) obsession with a militant Starfleet and bigger and badder battlewardreadnoughts of doom and so on.
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Make 1 ship, with 1 console, that can have differnt costumes. Costumes that cannot be kitbashed further, Give it at least a Lt Cmd Universal and we're done. Everybody can fly their Wolf 359 ship with the skin they want, and with liberty in how to fly it.
In fact, give it a console with a 10 minute recharge rate that changes turn rate and and shield mod. Basically to give you a range of Destroyer to Cruiser concerning stats. As long as it keeps its console and weapon slots.
It really could be a 2-in-1 approach we saw with the Dysies, and would work pretty well imo.
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They could have introduced them with the First contact day or something; that would have been cool.
I don't want to do this again
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No, that does not necessarily mean using all the "'hard canon' starships we saw on-screen", respecting the IP means being consistent in continuity and characterization. And that could mean adapting IP elements to a situation that could very well happen in the IP's continuity. For instance, there are many wars going on in STO's continuity. It's very consistent for an establishment as peaceful as Starfleet to take up a more militarized position if the need arises, especially since it's a human-founded organization, and IRL, humans have demonstrated that same adaptive ability. Hell, even in canon they have with the Defiant Warship Escort's creation.
Okay, define "starfighters". And please explain why they make no sense.
And as I explained above, a militant Starfleet is consistent to the IP given the situations.
Peregrines are fighters, not shuttles. Yes, that definition is canon.
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If memory serves, Geko is not a fan of players either?
And most of Cryptic's focus seems to be on alien ships that are usable by all Factions, which is a good thing else the Feds would be the only ones getting anything.
I'm not a fan of players either, but that doesn't mean I'm not a fan of Star Trek and a fan of Star Trek Online.
Personally, I think Geko should just create 2409-era 'updates' to kitbashed ships with sleek and cool non-kitbashed designs, but offer the kitbashed versions as skin options.
That way he gets his way, and we get ours, and he can make some money along the way.
If anything, that just shows how much of a Star Trek fan Geko is. Have you seen how contradictory the fans of Star Trek are regarding the franchise?
These forums are constantly bombarded with players wanting to play Undine or fly Undine ships, or play Borg and fly Borg ships, and so on covering a dozen other species. Just because YOU do not want to fly and Undine ship does not mean YOU are EVERYONE. Just because YOU do not like angular ships does not mean EVERYONE does not like angular ships, etc.
The thing about MMOs is that people need to put aside the needs of the one for the needs of the many. No one individual gets exactly what they want out of a game because games are made up of hundreds of thousands of individuals who all want something different.
In my opinion, STO is not consistent in the IPs continuity and characteization. It's not even consistent within it's OWN lore
Peregrines are "attack fighters", a term which is shared with the Jem'Hadar craft that are roughly Defiant Class sized, not Starfighters which are sub-warp craft found in other IPs.
But I don't want to explain anything here since it's off-topic and like I said has been discussed literaly dozens of times already
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I can't honestly recall the last time I saw anyone seriously want to play undine, and Borg usually only comes up once or twice every few months. At which point they are promptly shouted down by nearly everyone else that comes to the thread. I'm not seeing the 'constantly bombarded' you claim.
And yes, I still want to see the Nebula prototype in game. :P
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You should note that I didn't say anything about the popularity about those choices in my post, only about how well they aligned with the IP-please don't misrepresent what I said.
As I said above, Cryptic's focus seems to be on ships that all 3 Factions can use rather then on specific Faction ships. That way all 3 Factions benefit from a Hirogen ship, or Undine ship, or whatever.