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RE: PvP Discussion about queue changes for Season 9
virusdancer
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coldsnapped wrote: »We will be bringing down the Tribble server for maintenance to apply a new update: ST.40.20140316a.8
PVP:
- All PvP Queues have been re-structured into All vs. All queues.
- A new Space Arena PvP Queue has been added for unteamed players only.
- This Unteamed Only queue will not allow premade teams to queue together.
- This provides all participants with a level playing field in terms of teamwork and coordination.
...surprised?
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Team and Non-team? BOOOOOOOOO. Thats really happening?
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
I'm surprised and not surprised that part wasn't included. Not surprised, because I was surprised by this change - I expected RvB (but not PUG-only). Surprised because it would have made sense to have included it with the PUG-only thing...cause even though we disagreed on snippets here and there regarding the overall system, I definitely agreed that it wouldn't really make anything better without some form of matchmaking.
Yep, that's kind of how it hit me. RvB Yay! I don't think we're ready for the team/non-team split yet - and - when we were ready for it, it would have to be with some form of matchmaking for the non-team side.
Yea, without matchmaking it will just be the same old story. Except now you cant blame it on the two or three guys with the same fleet tag.
Also now it will switch from the KvF queue being a wasteland to the team queue.
Didnt cryptic know that adding Klinks to the queues would balance out the premades? :P
On a side note, I can see the team queue already. VS v. IC all night, every night
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
the devs are making it really hard to hate them over that galaxy reboot today with the reputation reeling in and the best thing thats happened to pvp in this game to date. it will be interesting to see how this works out... cant wait to actually pvp in my klink, whenever i want! that will be amazing. season 9= kvf war is over, pvp is now just a wargame
cryptic should like create an official teamed que channel, that anyone that ques up into it is automatically subscribed too. just making a team que is a bit of a half step, and will just end up dead
Also, RvB queues are awesome!!!! Thanks devs!!!!
I for one, think it can only be helpful right now. Matchmaking can come later, what they need to do is get more people interested in pvp somehow, myself included. This is a good step.
No more cloaked pocket healers for people, for starters.
(That doesn't mean that I won't still enjoy popping some feds on my klink, though...)
Devs, more of this please.
Never thought I'd see this.
Yeah, the team thing - given the population - well, I know it would have been more work; but I'd have thought they would have looked at creating a sort of lobby system for it.
I don't know, it's not my area of the community in the least - I just don't think the pop's there to support that split at the moment.
It was RvB the queues...reduce the chance of folks running into a team consecutively...grow the population...then take a look at doing something for teams (not to teams, but for teams).
But yeah, the RvB...no more falling asleep while waiting for FvK. It was a trip in Ker'rat the other day, Feds left like 4-5 times for FvF before I gave up on the FvK queue and went back to the PvE grind.
I think is epic for full pugs, now they dont have to face pre mades.
I think is fantastic for casual PVP, now I can go and play alone and not be ***** by a pre made.
I think is terrible for the 2 friends that want to have a casual PVP, now they have to go separated or face a full premade..
In the end, we are going to see what happened. I could be really good or it could be the end of the road.
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The none team que NEEDS a match making component.
As Mancom has said it isn't that hard to do... it is 100% possible without a ton of work. There really is no excuse for not doing it.
Still over all both changes are good as I see them.
If they announce tomorrow that FAW is being deleted and Scatter Volley renamed Fire at Will and being reworded to work with beams and cannons.
Well if that happens I might just start talking about STO in other games again. lmao
My KDF toons might actually get playtime with my fleetmates.
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Together with your friends? No.
This will probably kill the regular queue. Almost all single players will queue for the pug queue because it increases one's chances for a lopsided match in one's favour, and the regular queue will repeat the same match over and over again because the remaining population for it will be so tiny.
That is the thing thats worried me a lot. At least the pug queues should allow 2 team players.. if I just want to play a casual game with my friend, I have to go and wait 2 hs for a pre made mach or play in separated teams. That is not good!
I agree that full pre made vs full pug need it a fix, but this system just killed the Hey Kirk, lets go to a PVP for the sake of the fun.
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That's the kind of feedback they're probably looking for and should get in that notes thread in case they miss it here.
I agree its really gonna hurt friends more than help the pugs. Without matchmaking of some form you will still have unbalanced teams more times than not. 5 scis, 5 tacs, 5 whatevers.
Most of the time I am queuing up with gorn and sometimes with anyone else that wants to go with us or by myself, the former is always way more fun.
House of Beautiful Orions
PUNISH THE FEDs
eh...
No. I just think that they see these small changes as our pvp content for the next 4 years.
kk
So this what it comes down to when Cryptic feels that PvP is dead... make an enemy to team up with an ally to kill other fellow allies, for years Cryptic neglected and never updated PvP at all. no new Modes, Maps, no similar Ker'rat and N'vak Type maps with any real objectives, Systems PvP or any Rep System... so they came out with an lazy approach to team enemy with an enemy in PvP, this is no surprise due to the lack of imagination of Cryptic's part to insult PvP players further (Without PvP'ers knowing it), whats the point to have a Klingon Empire, the Federation and Sub-faction Romulans puppets to fight each other that does not fit in the already broken story line, u don't see Mixed-Factions PvP in SWTOR, WoW, Planetside, Guild Wars 2 and so on and many of those game knows how to make PvP to fit their PvE storyline while the Dev's at Cryptic does not.
If they want Mixed-Factions PvP they might as well release Laas from prison and make him the founder of the New Dominion that's made up of whats left of the Federation, Klingon Empire and Romulan Star Empire with all the foreign lock box ships alot of players using now to wage a Dominion vs Dominion War and rename this game Lock Box Online.
This is indeed not a good day to die...
Just choke it up bruh, its all to perfect the chinese farming grind model ;O
More than the last 4, eh? :P
you do realize this change is happening almost completely because the kdf and fed war is going to be officially ended in the new featured ep right? oh its great for us players, and really needed and all, but the only way they would ever do something like this is to coincide with the story line rp :rolleyes: