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  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    KDF ships that really needs Fleet versions... a repeat? oh well, not gonna stop til Cryptic release more KDF ships!

    Qul'Dun BoP (Qaw'Dun Alt Outfit) 5 Tac, 3 Eng, 2 Sci Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/QulDun_Bird-of-Prey
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Qaw%27Dun_Bird-of-Prey

    Ki'Tang BoP (Ch'Tang Alt Outfit) 4 Tac Console
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ki%27tang_Bird-of-Prey
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ch%27Tang_Bird-of-Prey

    Guramba Siege Destroyer ~ 5 Tac Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Guramba_Siege_Destroyer

    K'Tanco Battle Cruiser (Alt Outfit Needed) ~ 4 Eng ,3 Sci, 3 Tac Consoles / 2 Uni BOff Stations
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/K%27Tanco_Battle_Cruiser

    Pach Raptor (Puyjaq Alternate Oufit) ~ 5 Fore Weapons / 4 Tac, 4 Eng Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Pach_Raptor
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Puyjaq_Raptor

    Qorgh Raptor (Su'Qob Alt Outfit) ~ 5 Tac Console
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Qorgh_Raptor
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/SuQob_Raptor


    Klingon Align ships that i think can sell well on the C-store/Fleet System (Playable Versions with updated models & textures needed... of course)

    Ravager Dreadnought ~ 5 Tac, 4 Eng, 1 Sci Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ravager_Dreadnought

    Warbarge Dreadnought Carrier ~ Unique Orion Corvette Pet, 5 Eng, 4 Tac, 1 Sci Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Warbarge_Dreadnought
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Orion_Corvette

    K'Norr Escort ~ 5 Tac, 3 Sci, 2 Eng Consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/K%27Norr_Escort

    Balaur Dreadnought ~ 4 Eng, 4 Sci, 2 Tac Consoles / Eng and Sci setup/ Powerful Shield mod around 1.2-1.3
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Balaur_Dreadnought

    Tuatara Cruiser ~ 4 Eng, 2-3 Sci, 3 Tac consoles / Full Cruiser Commands / No Dual Cannons (Best selling it at the Fleet system for 200,000 Fleet Points or 4 Fleet Ship Mods for Fleet Version)
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tuatara_Cruiser

    Slavemaster Battleship Carrier ~ 4 Eng, 4 Tac, 2 Sci consoles
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Slavemaster_Battleship


  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    fleetQulDun Bird-of-Prey should be sci heavy, 5 sci consoles, 2 eng, SA and a .9 shield mod

    fleetKi'Tang BoP should have 5 forward weapons

    fleet hegta should have a universal ENS station, 3rd aft weapon, .83 shield mod and ~3k more hull, and dreadnaught cruiser commands

    fleet K'Tanco would make a great fleet excelsior clone

    and tier 2 raptors can be 1 sci heavy the other eng. would be great if they had a patrol refit and nicor station setup
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Dear cryptic, I think the time has come to invest in the kdf, please look upon some of the ideas not only in this thread but numerous others. As oakland4life has clearly stated, you have so many kdf and kdf allied ( ok Fek'Ihri Horde aren't allies but that escort! ) ships at hand, please use some of them! A new standard uniform calls for new ships ( trust me its logical ). Don't miss a chance for cash!!
  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    fleetQulDun Bird-of-Prey should be sci heavy, 5 sci consoles, 2 eng, SA and a .9 shield mod

    fleetKi'Tang BoP should have 5 forward weapons

    fleet hegta should have a universal ENS station, 3rd aft weapon, .83 shield mod and ~3k more hull, and dreadnaught cruiser commands

    fleet K'Tanco would make a great fleet excelsior clone

    and tier 2 raptors can be 1 sci heavy the other eng. would be great if they had a patrol refit and nicor station setup

    dunno, a Fleet Qul'Dun more specificly the Qaw'Dun with it's mean look, looks more like a Tactical ship.

    the Fleet Ki'Tang/Ch'Tang does look more like a Sci BoP, maybe with stats with a Breen Raider BOff Station setup but instead of a Tac Com Station it have a Sci Com station with the rest as Universal BOff Sations, 10 Weapon & 10 Aux Bonus Power Levels, SA, and a Console Setup of 4 or 5 Sci, 2 or 3 Tac and 2 Eng.

    the Fleet Hegh'ta, i think should get the Breen Raider BOff Stations, 28-29k Hull, 0.9 Shield Mod., 4 total Tac Consoles... i still believe that BoP's are underpowered and it does need a slight impulse mod increase (which at the moment is the same along with all Escort except the JHAS and Risan Escort which are faster and having superior stats than BoP's), and the Flanking needs a buff from 8.3% to 12.5% dmg vs players.

    as for the Fleet K'tanco, believe it or not it's only slightly larger if not the same size as the BoP's while it being a Battle Cruiser, i still think a Console Setup of 4 Eng, 3 Tac, 3 Sci is right for it, and with it's Wing Weapon Pods i will say that 5 Fore /3 Aft weapons slots is right for it and 2 Universal BOff Stations would be good on it to. besides a Light Battle Cruiser with the firepower of a Mogh and Vorcha would put the suppose to be more powerful K'tinga and Negh'var to Shame.

    how about the Fleet Pach Raptor with a Fed Fleet Patrol Escort BOff station setup with a 5 Fore / 2 Aft Weapon Slot setup.

    and the Fleet Qorgh Raptor with Console setup of 4 Sci, 4 Tac and 2 Eng, and a BOff Station setup of Com Tac, Lt. Com Sci, Lt. Sci, Lt. Eng and Ens Uni?
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Qul'Dun is just a plus sized brel, between the 3 bops yet to have fleet versions, it looks the most sedate and possibly sci heavy. like the heg'ta, the Ki'Tang has a few additional gun mounts at least, more believable that it would have 5 fore weapons

    as for the K'tanco, theres more then enough battlecruisers with 3 tac consoles. ktinga, kamarang, vorcha, vorcha mirror, negvar. just the fleet vorcha and mogh have 4, and the kdf has never had an exact excelsior equivalent, they are due one. its got a 13 turn rate, if it got 5 fore weapons, the mogh would be undone.
  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Qul'Dun is just a plus sized brel, between the 3 bops yet to have fleet versions, it looks the most sedate and possibly sci heavy. like the heg'ta, the Ki'Tang has a few additional gun mounts at least, more believable that it would have 5 fore weapons

    as for the K'tanco, theres more then enough battlecruisers with 3 tac consoles. ktinga, kamarang, vorcha, vorcha mirror, negvar. just the fleet vorcha and mogh have 4, and the kdf has never had an exact excelsior equivalent, they are due one. its got a 13 turn rate, if it got 5 fore weapons, the mogh would be undone.

    The Qul'Dun which for some reason i keep seeing it's as the Qaw'Dun Alt Oufit which to me does look more Tac BoP, but with that said when i looked at the other 2 BoP's the Qul'Dun/Qaw'Dun does look underarmed compare to the Hegh'ta and Ki'Tang in terms of weapon pods, so i can see why u said that Qul'Dun could become a Sci BoP, it would be that or Cryptic have to make a new BoP design thats Sci Based.

    For the Fleet Ki'Tang and Fleet Hegh'ta to have the 5 Fore Weapons Setup, there will have to be a trade off like a 5 Fore /1 Aft Weapons Setup or a 5 Fore /2 Aft Weapons Setup but stuck with a 9 Consoles Setup instead of a standard Fleet 10, with the same BOff's Station Setup of that of the standard Tier 5 BoP's or the Breen Raider BOff's Station Setup.

    Back to the Fleet K'Tanco... the Fleet Level versions of the Negh'Var, K'Tinga, Karmarang does have 3 Tac Consoles (not gonna count the lower T5 Vorcha or any other non-fleet level ships), while the Vorcha, Mogh, Bortasqu's do have 4 or more Tac Consoles, is why i suggest a something different with a 4 Eng, 3 Tac, 3 Sci Consoles and a 5 Fore / 3 Aft Weapons Setups on the K'tanco, something like having a K'tinga Consoles setup and having the Mogh Weapons Setup so it would be more unique in it's own right, which is slightly outperforming the K'tinga in terms of foward firepower while having less overall firepower to the Mogh. alternatively i do agree on the Fleet K'tanco with a setup similar to that of the Fleet Excelsior (with the standard 4F/4A weapons setup), but i'm concern it would slightly outperform the Fleet Vorcha overall.

  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    Dear cryptic, I think the time has come to invest in the kdf, please look upon some of the ideas not only in this thread but numerous others. As oakland4life has clearly stated, you have so many kdf and kdf allied ( ok Fek'Ihri Horde aren't allies but that escort! ) ships at hand, please use some of them! A new standard uniform calls for new ships ( trust me its logical ). Don't miss a chance for cash!!

    Well, the Fek'Ihri Horde may not be allies, but afterall we do have a C-Store version of the Fek'Ihri Kar'Fi Battle Carrier so it would not be wrong for the KDF to have ''captured'' Fek'Ihri Escort on the C-Store aswell ^_^
  • oakland4lifeoakland4life Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    A possible Drek'Hi Dreadnought Carrier for the future on the C-store?
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Drek%27Hi_Dreadnought

    Speculative Stats i made up for a possible C-store/Fleet Version

    Hull: ~ around 41-43,000
    Shield Mod: 1.2 / 1.32 (Fleet)
    Weapon Slots: 4 Fore, 3 Aft
    Hanger Bays: 2
    Crew: 3500-4000
    BOff Stations Setup: Com. Tac / Lt Com. Sci / Lt Com. Uni / Lt Eng
    Device SlotsL 3
    Consoles Slots: 4 Tac (5 Fleet) / 3 Sci / 2 Eng
    Trun Rate: 6
    Impulse Mod: 0.15
    Inertia Rating: 25
    Bonus Power: +10 weapons / +10 Auxillary
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    If we get more Fek'ihri ships, we also need some kind of conclusion of the Fek'Ihri story arc. That could even be a shared mission between factions, with the armistice and all the cooperation going on everywhere.

    I mean, look at the ships, the technology and the apparent history of the Fek'Ihri: It seems quite clear that they are connected to the Iconians - probably another servitor race.

    So, a mission (or an STF?) where we, the players, conquer a Fek'Ihri shipyard... after that, I could see all kinds of Fe'ihri ships for us.

    But given the state of the game and how the finances work now, it would make a lot more sense to make such ships Lockbox and Lobi ships, wouldn't it?

    Especially references to them in colliseum where it states since destroying Molor that they are under new leadership. As well the iconian gateways actually show where you can go to their version of the great hall. So technically according to that there is a location where they exist more so depending on if those gates are limited to our universe if so grethor actually exists somewhere more than just an afterlife(or possibly they control some kind of different kind of dyson sphere itself and being a servitude race.)

    Would be cool if they made it where they had another battlezone for the fek'ihr that has crafting drops to maybe craft these other fek'ihr ships. Or possibly instead of a battlezone maybe a raiding area and could also push more bops and make sales off that for raiding purposes that are lacking in the game.
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    A possible Drek'Hi Dreadnought Carrier for the future on the C-store?
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Drek%27Hi_Dreadnought

    Speculative Stats i made up for a possible C-store/Fleet Version

    Hull: ~ around 41-43,000
    Shield Mod: 1.2 / 1.32 (Fleet)
    Weapon Slots: 4 Fore, 3 Aft
    Hanger Bays: 2
    Crew: 3500-4000
    BOff Stations Setup: Com. Tac / Lt Com. Sci / Lt Com. Uni / Lt Eng
    Device SlotsL 3
    Consoles Slots: 4 Tac (5 Fleet) / 3 Sci / 2 Eng
    Trun Rate: 6
    Impulse Mod: 0.15
    Inertia Rating: 25
    Bonus Power: +10 weapons / +10 Auxillary

    I'd buy that ship immediately! Not because of the proposed stats or it being a dread, but because I just love how weird this thing looks. :D
    HQroeLu.jpg
  • nlindgren57nlindgren57 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'd really like to see a t5 raptor, especially because I love material 3, but can't use it on either of the endgame raptors atm. I'd also like to see them get sensor analysis or something unique. I just rolled my first KDF toon and loved it. Flew BoPs up to T5, and then realized just about the only option I liked was my Vet ship, which is still broken btw, since November now Cryptic, along with all the the other vet ships. Anyway though, I would love some more T5 ships, the only reason I'm not spending money on the KDF is there's not much to spend it on.
  • aliensamongusaliensamongus Member Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I may have already said this before somewhere, but I really want to fly this ship with my Klingon. Wouldn't matter to me that it potentially will turn like a beached whale. Just gives the shields and weapons power.

    Talon Battleship
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  • overlapooverlapo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'd really like to see a t5 raptor, especially because I love material 3, but can't use it on either of the endgame raptors atm.

    T5 Raptor confirmed for the expansion in October.

    http://youtu.be/dYsw_GYP8Ok?t=1h33m18s
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  • bi0f0dd3rbi0f0dd3r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    oh so much this.....


    K'Norr Escort

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/K%27Norr_Escort

    5/2 weapon load out, 5 tact consoles and boff slots to match, WITH a fleet version available.
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I don't care what layout it has I want a playable k'norr escort! Just to hear that engine roar...
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    patrickngo wrote: »
    huh, gotta wonder what Fed-intended gear we'll be beta-testing KDF side for them.

    The part that I care the most is that he said - "In addition to the Guramba"!
    I eagerly await for the second era of the Guramba! For a 9 console ship that old, she's the preferred choice for many KDF players even in the dusk of her first era. I expect the fleet one to be nothing short of epic.
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  • overlapooverlapo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    The part that I care the most is that he said - "In addition to the Guramba"!
    I eagerly await for the second era of the Guramba! For a 9 console ship that old, she's the preferred choice for many KDF players even in the dusk of her first era. I expect the fleet one to be nothing short of epic.

    Link to the part about the Fleet Garumba and why it didn't show up at the same time as the Fleet GalX.
    http://youtu.be/dYsw_GYP8Ok?t=1h22m9s
  • ddemlongddemlong Member Posts: 294
    edited July 2014
    I love how he "unapologetically" focuses on Feds, TRIBBLE poor mentality for any MMO maker for focus on a single faction. Then essentially says if they are not pissing off the KDf "you are doing it wrong" sounds like intentional neglect beyond what we already know.

    If you can not atrtact players to a certain faction you are doing something wrong.
    I use to do 100K DPS, but then I took an arrow to the knee.


    Your Ramming Speed III deals 242658 (243540) Kinetic Damage (Critical) to you.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    The part that I care the most is that he said - "In addition to the Guramba"!
    I eagerly await for the second era of the Guramba! For a 9 console ship that old, she's the preferred choice for many KDF players even in the dusk of her first era. I expect the fleet one to be nothing short of epic.

    FRAK THE GUMBAH!!!! 5 forward firing RAPTOR!!! HALLELUJAH!!
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    Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!

    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    FRAK THE GUMBAH!!!! 5 forward firing RAPTOR!!! HALLELUJAH!!

    But......but.....but.....Spider Ship? :confused: YOU HERETIC!!! :mad:
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'd love to see something along the lines of a K'tinga-like ship that had more hull and shields. Give it a similar look and feel and call it a destroyer. The Koro-tinga skin with beefier nacelles and a solid neck. And give it BOFF layout capable of being a cannon ship with a fore and aft torpedo. The current Fleet K'tinga is best utilized as a beam boat.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    But......but.....but.....Spider Ship? :confused: YOU HERETIC!!! :mad:

    Spider tier 5 ship plus fleet version, already in game. 5 forward weapon raptor let alone any real tier 5 raptors? Hmmm not so much eh? More raptors first, then you can have your frakking spider ship, not before.
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    Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!

    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    talonxv wrote: »
    Spider tier 5 ship plus fleet version, already in game. 5 forward weapon raptor let alone any real tier 5 raptors? Hmmm not so much eh? More raptors first, then you can have your frakking spider ship, not before.

    Well, both are comming about the same time, if you trust Geko.
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    If you trust geko then October!!!! I want new kdf ships to play with! Oh yes the guramba ( with 5 tac consoles ) and... a... 5 forward weapon raptor!!! Please can we haz next month!? Please.
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Well, both are comming about the same time, if you trust Geko.

    Well then we are both satisfied then! :cool:
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    Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!

    http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    If you trust geko then October!!!! I want new kdf ships to play with! Oh yes the guramba ( with 5 tac consoles ) and... a... 5 forward weapon raptor!!! Please can we haz next month!? Please.

    Yeah but October of what year?
  • holyknight22holyknight22 Member Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    This is a joke post:

    How about a truly OP ship that supersedes the Scimitar?

    Baluar Siege Warbarge
    Hull: 50k
    Boff Slotting: Com Tac, Com Sci, Com Eng, Com Universal
    Enhanced Red October Battle Cloak
    Console Slotting: 5 Eng/5 Tac/5 Sci
    3 Hanger Slots with 3 Uber Rare Orion Slavers
    5 Forward Weapons Slots equipped with Guramba Javelins with 10 second CD
    5 Aft Weapon Slots with Ultra Rare 360 Gorn Rock Throwing Weapons

    This way you get all three of the ships you want in one nice, powerful ship. You can farm contraband, unleash 5 Javelins in an Alpha Strike and should you miss it plays the Russian National Anthem....

    OP enough for the KDF?
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I want the following plox: neghvar refit, raptor with 5 forward weapons, beefier k'tinga, and a fleet guramba. Make it so!
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