Yes but PvP is dead since everyone flies Scimitars and vapor builds anyway.
Plus you add another tactical cruiser in PvP for what purpose? Dont we already have enough and I bet a lot of people do want to use the flavor of the month I mentioned, not in taking those ships into PvP so we can have slower moving Avengers and Sovies.
lol, they're turning the tac seat into a universal. That's the one people actually found useful in it's original state. XD It's not a shocker though when you think about it. My fleet sovereign is a good ship, but it's universal? Two Tacs. Two engineers. One universal. I mean what in hell? What did they THINK people were going to put there? Unless you think hazard emitters is trash, Pointless feature is pointless.
So if you want the Galaxy X be it the Zen version or the Fleet version to be able to cloak and get its 2 piece set bonus you'll need to take up 3 of you 9 or 10 console slots :eek:
I'm not sure that that's a trade I'd be willing to make.
I'm glad that we'll be getting an updated and a Fleet version of the X but I think that Cryptic dropped the ball with the Boff slots.
Turning an Ensign Tactical station in to a Universal Ensign seems pointless IMO.
The X would have benefited greatly if it had been given a Universal Lt.C station or a Tactical Lt.C station.
The X is from a Timeline where the Federation is fighting a loosing war against the Mighty Klingon Empire and the best the Federation could muster for it was a Lt. Tactical station Now I know why the feds were loosing :P
Ok - we're excited about a serious Galaxy model that can complete in today's STO.
Our fleet channel has been quite active. Most of the older players agree we want to resurrect the Gal-X fleet version, if it can be made competitive.
We're all ST junkies at heart.
BUT...
After much debate, most if not all of us agreed that if the new version lacks a commander tactical slot, it's a non-starter.
Right now cruisers are where it's at for damage. They look and feel like the trek ships we know and love. The Gal-X was always the good looking, but functionally awkward and practically useless ship in our rosters.
After a quick hands up - all of us admitted to buying and then releasing the Gal-x from our stables of ships.
personally, I think the galaxy r should have a lt cmdr. and the dready should have a cmdr.. and the dread should also have 5 fore and 3 rear weapons seeing as though it has not only the standard compliment of galaxy weapons (- the original fore torpedo tube) but has the two cannons and a much more robust torpedo tube..
it makes sense.. the galaxy dready should be the federation counterpart to the scimitar..
Ok - we're excited about a serious Galaxy model that can complete in today's STO.
Our fleet channel has been quite active. Most of the older players agree we want to resurrect the Gal-X fleet version, if it can be made competitive.
We're all ST junkies at heart.
BUT...
After much debate, most if not all of us agreed that if the new version lacks a commander tactical slot, it's a non-starter.
Right now cruisers are where it's at for damage. They look and feel like the trek ships we know and love. The Gal-X was always the good looking, but functionally awkward and practically useless ship in our rosters.
After a quick hands up - all of us admitted to buying and then releasing the Gal-x from our stables of ships.
We'd love to have it again. IF....
I never agreed to anything with you or anybody else. :mad:
Chill out dudes. The stats for the fleet galaxy X hasn't even been announced yet. If you own the galaxy X, it's only one ship module, which is pretty cheap, only like 5-7 mil EC last time i checked. If you don't own the galaxy X, why the fudge are you complaining? I for one am really happy they're updating the galaxy X with a fleet version, i never expected the c-store version to be buffed. Seriously, chill out and stop with your whining.
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Wanting a Commander BOFF position that doesn't match the ship type is grossly irrational, IMO. Hell, when the Dyson Sci ships gain a tac Commander BOFF, it becomes a Destroyer.
I disagree, a tac cruiser is perfectly functional with a Ltcmdr tac and ensign tac. In fact, if it doesn't have a commander engineering slot, I usually don't fly it.
I was drooling to buy this ship if they did it correctly. Alas they did not. IT NEEDS A LTCMDR OR CMDR TACS STATION!!!!! how many threads and posts from hundreds of players have said this? Why do they not listen? Do they not want sales? I was ready to spend money for this ship but now after seeing what is will be I will not be buying this (still) worthless ship.
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What is with all the anger over this ship and it's re-release?
Everyone here knows - or should know - the Galaxy-class was meant from the get go, by Gene Roddenberry himself as a 'cruise ship' in outer space as a way to get away from the 'militarzation' that The Original Series had.
That's right folks, the Galaxy was MEANT from Gene himself, to be a 'Love Boat' in space. That's why it looks as god-awful as it does (one of the biggest disappointments of Star Trek coming back on TV at the time) and why the first season of TNG sucked so badly.
Deal with it - it's a lumbering cruise ship that you all want to see turned into a racecar battleship. Ain't gonna (and shouldn't!) happen.
nice try, but we are talking about the galaxy x.. which is a whole different animal... also, gene intended it to have that feel, but.. it was also a ship that stared down every other ship it came across, it was know to be tactically superior to most ships.. it was the flag ship. generations, lursa and be' etor commented on it. galaxy classes are what held everything together in the large scale fights in the dominion war. the hull is literally covered in weapons.. so loveboat yes, with lots of guns..
and I disagree with orange.. who says a cruiser has to be engineering at its core.. its technically not a cruiser.. its a dreadnaught.. and if dreadnaught doesn't scream tactical, I don't know what does..
Would be pretty cool if the special bridge pack could be the Battle Bridge perhaps?
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Kinda makes me wonder, now, whether I should go with the Galaxy Dreadnought 3-pack, or the Advanced Dyson Destroyer 3-pack. Galaxy Dreadnought *is* kinda iconic. I dunno, does it come with its own unique bridge? (like C-Store Ody)
They finally give it the attention they said they would, give it more then we expected, and yet here starts the complaints! It needs a LtCom tac now. Next it will need 7 front weapon slots, 3 hangars, and all tac consoles...
Thanks for the Saucer Separation. That is what you promised me over 2 years ago. Excstatic about the hangar bay, that is pure extra. Uni ens? I'll likely load it tac most of the time, but I'll take that, too!
The rest of you... bah... learn to fly the ships the way they are and you will have a much better time of things then constantly complaining that X ship needs Y buff.
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As a general reply - is anyone curious if they're going to be updating the models of the base-designs to be more accurate? One odd bit I noticed among the misalignment of parts on the models is how the Dreadnought is missing a big old torpedo launcher-looking part on the top of the saucer (edit: they turned it into a small bit that has phaser cannon nodes apparently).
The Galaxy model has been adjusted more times than any other model in the game. And really, it was Logan's pet project, and he's long gone. So I really doubt they're going to adjust it again, after Logan did it three or four times.
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nvm ur a PvE'er :O
They've done this since the first dev blog.
So if you want the Galaxy X be it the Zen version or the Fleet version to be able to cloak and get its 2 piece set bonus you'll need to take up 3 of you 9 or 10 console slots :eek:
I'm not sure that that's a trade I'd be willing to make.
I'm glad that we'll be getting an updated and a Fleet version of the X but I think that Cryptic dropped the ball with the Boff slots.
Turning an Ensign Tactical station in to a Universal Ensign seems pointless IMO.
The X would have benefited greatly if it had been given a Universal Lt.C station or a Tactical Lt.C station.
The X is from a Timeline where the Federation is fighting a loosing war against the Mighty Klingon Empire and the best the Federation could muster for it was a Lt. Tactical station
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7XVcqZodAM
No mention of if the Phaser Lance is now a sure hit has long has your target is in range and in the lances firing arc.
Granted the new hanger will be ok but I don't think that adding it was the way to go.
If I could design the Galaxy X if would look something like this
Weapons 5/3
Hull 40000
Shield Mod 1
Turn rate 7
Crew 1000
Can equipped Dual Cannons
Device Slots 4
+10 power to Weapons and Engines
Boff stations: Commander Engineering, Ltc. Tactical, Ltc. Universal, Lt. Science
Console Mods: 4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science
Specials
Cloak via optional console
Saucer Separation vai optional console
Omni Powered Phaser Lance (integrated) (100% hit chance has long has target is in arc and range)
Omni Powered Phaser lance is hard coded to be Phaser type damage but can be boosted by any Beam Energy Weapon type tactical console slotted.
Our fleet channel has been quite active. Most of the older players agree we want to resurrect the Gal-X fleet version, if it can be made competitive.
We're all ST junkies at heart.
BUT...
After much debate, most if not all of us agreed that if the new version lacks a commander tactical slot, it's a non-starter.
Right now cruisers are where it's at for damage. They look and feel like the trek ships we know and love. The Gal-X was always the good looking, but functionally awkward and practically useless ship in our rosters.
After a quick hands up - all of us admitted to buying and then releasing the Gal-x from our stables of ships.
We'd love to have it again. IF....
Talk about pathetic, it's the way Feds have zero decent carriers and have to jump through far more hoops.
Scimitar... Zen ship. 5 fore, 5 tactical, cruiser level turn rate, innate battle cloaking without aconsole stolen for it, cruiser hull and shields, cloak damage boost, and hangar pets.
Nothing the fed or kdf has even comes close to this setup, not to mention rom boffs.
This was cryptics chance to give fed something close to it or the mogh, but no. Fed get crapped on again.
Period. I suspect there is a sizable amount of fed players like myself
It's not a fed scimitar, not even close. Like, a huge dook in the face of fed. And course some lap it up like its pudding.
Fed players shafted again.
it makes sense.. the galaxy dready should be the federation counterpart to the scimitar..
I never agreed to anything with you or anybody else. :mad:
The Mogh is just a copy of the Fed Avenger
Who the heck wants another Scimitar? That overpowered POS is flying power creep, and the last thing this game needs is more like it.
Muah-ha-ha... I have your chat logs...
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nice try, but we are talking about the galaxy x.. which is a whole different animal... also, gene intended it to have that feel, but.. it was also a ship that stared down every other ship it came across, it was know to be tactically superior to most ships.. it was the flag ship. generations, lursa and be' etor commented on it. galaxy classes are what held everything together in the large scale fights in the dominion war. the hull is literally covered in weapons.. so loveboat yes, with lots of guns..
and I disagree with orange.. who says a cruiser has to be engineering at its core.. its technically not a cruiser.. its a dreadnaught.. and if dreadnaught doesn't scream tactical, I don't know what does..
I think you'd change your tone if it was the Arc-Galaxy-X. lol
I'd say neither. Get the Vesta 3 pack.
They finally give it the attention they said they would, give it more then we expected, and yet here starts the complaints! It needs a LtCom tac now. Next it will need 7 front weapon slots, 3 hangars, and all tac consoles...
Thanks for the Saucer Separation. That is what you promised me over 2 years ago. Excstatic about the hangar bay, that is pure extra. Uni ens? I'll likely load it tac most of the time, but I'll take that, too!
The rest of you... bah... learn to fly the ships the way they are and you will have a much better time of things then constantly complaining that X ship needs Y buff.
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The Galaxy model has been adjusted more times than any other model in the game. And really, it was Logan's pet project, and he's long gone. So I really doubt they're going to adjust it again, after Logan did it three or four times.