Yes, I like the idea of variants and I think that the Commander Universal BOFF slot adds to that flexibility. I also like the idea of a hull points similar to escort.
I thinl it should have a captain slot that fires candyfloss wishes coz that's all this is a wish we all know we will Nevet get a T5 connie
I just uncovered today, quite by accident, the most compelling evidence EVER for a T5 Constitution class vessel in this game.
First, some background. I had taken a break from the game to play Neverwinter of all things (fun game, btw, just you know, a bit insular? I like it and would probably have stuck with it if my friends had stuck with it. It's great in a small group).
So I came back to Trek because of the free stuff they offered in the pre-Anniversary build up.
And one of the things I hadn't experienced before was the shuttle event. NOR I had I experienced the Shuttle PVP.
Well damn, time to break out a shuttle right?
And that's when I discovered the super secret truth to Cryptic!
2260s equipment is NOT dated tech! Not in the least!
What's more disturbing is that the Gallileo is straight up ON PAR with the standard Runabout!
This is madness people. IN PVP I can take my janky TOS shuttle and pew pew with the best of them! It turns better than the captain's yacht. Has more consoles than the TNG shuttle. And essentially has the exact same stats as the Danube Runabout.
That's like saying a Connie has more tactical firepower than a Galaxy, turns better than an Armitage, and has the exact same stats as a Defiant!
The argument that the Connie is outdated is completely blown out of the water by how powerful and up to date the Galileo is on the shuttle tier.
Been thinking, why not bring in the connie (or miranda) as a t5 raider of sorts? While the KDF and rom raiders get to play with battle cloaks, the fed raider gets similar boff flexibility but swapping the cloak and a little turn for a higher shield mod (say, 0.99 instead of 0.8 or whatever) plus slightly tougher hull.
Connie and miranda are fairly small, flexible and agile ships no? Both featuring heavy forward armaments but relatively light aft armaments (rather like a bop).
Been thinking, why not bring in the connie (or miranda) as a t5 raider of sorts? While the KDF and rom raiders get to play with battle cloaks, the fed raider gets similar boff flexibility but swapping the cloak and a little turn for a higher shield mod (say, 0.99 instead of 0.8 or whatever) plus slightly tougher hull.
Connie and miranda are fairly small, flexible and agile ships no? Both featuring heavy forward armaments but relatively light aft armaments (rather like a bop).
Ohhh this is intriguing! And would be badass whenever the flanking goes live.
Can you imagine coming up behind someone with either ship??? feels like the mutara nebula already
I just uncovered today, quite by accident, the most compelling evidence EVER for a T5 Constitution class vessel in this game.
First, some background. I had taken a break from the game to play Neverwinter of all things (fun game, btw, just you know, a bit insular? I like it and would probably have stuck with it if my friends had stuck with it. It's great in a small group).
So I came back to Trek because of the free stuff they offered in the pre-Anniversary build up.
And one of the things I hadn't experienced before was the shuttle event. NOR I had I experienced the Shuttle PVP.
Well damn, time to break out a shuttle right?
And that's when I discovered the super secret truth to Cryptic!
2260s equipment is NOT dated tech! Not in the least!
What's more disturbing is that the Gallileo is straight up ON PAR with the standard Runabout!
This is madness people. IN PVP I can take my janky TOS shuttle and pew pew with the best of them! It turns better than the captain's yacht. Has more consoles than the TNG shuttle. And essentially has the exact same stats as the Danube Runabout.
That's like saying a Connie has more tactical firepower than a Galaxy, turns better than an Armitage, and has the exact same stats as a Defiant!
The argument that the Connie is outdated is completely blown out of the water by how powerful and up to date the Galileo is on the shuttle tier.
Amazing but true.
Yes, that is compelling evidence!!! (SSSHHHH!!!! Don't make them nerf the Galileo!)
Yes, I noticed that TNG uses quite a bit of Miranda and Oberth class vessels and everyone knows they were used during the Dominion War in DS9. Its obviously feasible to have these ships in service as per canon so how is it not possible to have Constitution cruisers around?
The T5 B'Rel and T5 T'Liss and T5 D'Kyr are not vastly larger or more advanced. And are either older or the same age.
So it's really just a lot of pintos racing each other around the wal-mart parking lot before we all go to Applebee's and get in a fight. I mean the forums and get in a fight.
Actually, I HAVE head of Pinto's racing Lambo's, and scorching them royally. It's all in building up the car....(in game context, read, sure the Lambo's new, but the Pinto's been "Fleet refitted")
Gotta love the same tired arguments against. As in, the Galaxy's pushing a few decades at least, but that's okay as a T5, the T1 Sci and escort can have a T5 variant, but not the T5 Cruiser/Light cruisers? How are you rationalizing THAT argument? They're just as old, if not older in some cases. Same with some of the T1-3 Klin and Rihan ships that have Fleet variants?
The ONLY valid argument, within the context of this game, against a T5 Constitution, is the "CBS said no". Doesn't explain why there is no T5/Fleet Miranda/Shi-Kahr though.....
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I just uncovered today, quite by accident, the most compelling evidence EVER for a T5 Constitution class vessel in this game.
A complete absence of decent balancing is compelling evidence? Okay then. I mean, no offense, but you could just have been a better player than all the people you were playing against :P
Still doesn't bypass the fact that CBS aren't going to allow it. This is the issue you need to focus on, not in-universe issues that aren't going to matter until CBS allows it, at which point in-universe reasons can just be hand-waved away.
Yes, I noticed that TNG uses quite a bit of Miranda and Oberth class vessels and everyone knows they were used during the Dominion War in DS9. Its obviously feasible to have these ships in service as per canon so how is it not possible to have Constitution cruisers around?
Well, I could counter that argument by pointing out that the Constitution-class never appeared during TNG/DS9, so it was clearly so old at that point that it wasn't even worth refitting then, never mind now; 60-odd years later.
The ONLY valid argument, within the context of this game, against a T5 Constitution, is the "CBS said no". Doesn't explain why there is no T5/Fleet Miranda/Shi-Kahr though.....
I wouldn't be too surprised if CBS has placed restrictions on the Miranda as well.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
Yes, I noticed that TNG uses quite a bit of Miranda and Oberth class vessels and everyone knows they were used during the Dominion War in DS9. Its obviously feasible to have these ships in service as per canon so how is it not possible to have Constitution cruisers around?
There is no denying they are in service. The question is how capable they are compared to modern ships. Watching Mirandas explode left and right while more modern vessels survived does not mean those Mirandas were not T1 equivalents. I can take a T1 Connie into an Elite STF and watch it explode too.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Just about the only ... excuse ... that I can come up with for CBS' avowed position of No T5 Constitutions is a somewhat practical one of "population diversity" essentially. Point being that if there was a T5 Constitution hull available, even if it cost 10,000 Zen to buy, EVERYONE would be driving one, because the Constitution hull form and silhouette is *THE HERO SHIP* of Star Trek more than any other. The "fear" then is that the diversity of ships seen in the game would "crash" as everyone and their little brother clamors for having (and flying) a T5 Constitution as *THE* End Game Ship To Play on the Starfleet side.
Of course, the flipside of that argument is (assuming its accuracy about what would happen is) ... why do you hate it so much when people throw money at you?
A complete absence of decent balancing is compelling evidence? Okay then.
My shuttle post was mostly meant to entertain. And be a little informative about the state of shuttles. The T5 Connie aspect was just the tongue in cheek platform I used to launch into my shuttle tirade.
I mean, no offense, but you could just have been a better player than all the people you were playing against :P
It's a Gallileo! Skills are amplified to 11 on a scale of 10 when rocking the spock shuttle!
Still doesn't bypass the fact that CBS aren't going to allow it.
I gave up on this actually happening ages ago. Now I just like to have fun discussing the possibility of it happening since I like the topic. If that makes any sense.
And really the part I like most about the shuttle issue is that it's one of those weird Cryptic instances where TOS era equipment is on par with DS9 era equipment, and superior to the TNG era. It's just weird, and fun, and STO at its whackiest.
So everytime someone says something along the lines of "That ship/equipment is too old to be effective" ... I want us all to pour one out on the curb for the Type 8 shuttle since it's beat six ways to Sunday by the Gallilleo!
Other than that, I'm just enjoying the ongoing discussion. I know it bugs some people to see this still be a topic. But I'm not one of those people.
EDIT: I guess the simplest way to explain me in these threads is ... I've given up on it actually happening. Well, not given up. That sounds too bleak. I've come the realization that Cryptic and I have different tastes in ships. And that most likely extends to this particular topic. So I'm content to keep discussing the topic because it is one of my favorite ships in all of Trek. But as far as the game goes, I'm just having fun flying the ships in game they put in that I DO like.
I know CBS said no Connie. Why no vesper or Excalibur? They are trademarks of pwe, and if you ever see the posters, they are on the poster! I still cannot fathom why there are no tier 5 versions of the hero ships you see on the posted. And these are not refits of the Connie, they are new build ships built in 2391 and on.
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I know CBS said no Connie. Why no vesper or Excalibur? They are trademarks of pwe, and if you ever see the posters, they are on the poster! I still cannot fathom why there are no tier 5 versions of the hero ships you see on the posted. And these are not refits of the Connie, they are new build ships built in 2391 and on.
The problem is that the T2 Cruiser has a TMP Constitution skin. If they could remove the Constitution skin there would probably not be a major problem with them having a T5 version of the ship . I am sure CBS' restriction is not just with the TOS Connie skin but with all Constitution skins.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
EDIT: I guess the simplest way to explain me in these threads is ... I've given up on it actually happening. Well, not given up. That sounds too bleak. I've come the realization that Cryptic and I have different tastes in ships. And that most likely extends to this particular topic. So I'm content to keep discussing the topic because it is one of my favorite ships in all of Trek. But as far as the game goes, I'm just having fun flying the ships in game they put in that I DO like.
I should say that I don't think that people should neccessarily give up hope. It could still happen, and if it does, a lot of people will be happy. But if it happens, it'll happen based solely on CBS wanting to make money off of it, not a loophole by Cryptic or any in-universe suggestions made here.
On top of that, I still believe that there are mitigating factors relating to the Reboot Trek franchise as to why CBS continues to block Cryptic from using the Constitution.
I think what annoys me most about this thread is the number of times the same suggestion as to get around what CBS said, despite the fact that that particular dead horse has been flogged many eons ago.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
Of course, the flipside of that argument is (assuming its accuracy about what would happen is) ... why do you hate it so much when people throw money at you?
Maybe they should just be like "hey CBS rep, we can guestimate that if we sell more movie and tv based things in this game, we can triple your $$$ profit"
Maybe they should just be like "hey CBS rep, we can guestimate that if we sell more movie and tv based things in this game, we can triple your $$$ profit"
I bet their ears would perk up real fast
The problem is we have no idea what type of license Cryptic has with CBS. If it is a flat-fee license then CBS makes the same income if Cryptic makes $1,000.00 or $100,000,000.00 per year. Even if it is a royalty-based license CBS is getting a fraction of the ship sales - a few percentage points based on Quarterly Sales. And then CBS has to balance all that against what that iconic ship might be worth to them in the other licensing ventures.
For example, maybe CBS has given a license to someone to produce a new TOS-era video game. The iconic Connie being in that video game might be worth more money to CBS then allowing it to be sold in the C-Store here - and there might even be license restrictions that prohibit CBS from letting any other game use the image for X period of time.
It is never just as easy as saying someone wants it.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
The problem is we have no idea what type of license Cryptic has with CBS. If it is a flat-fee license then CBS makes the same income if Cryptic makes $1,000.00 or $100,000,000.00 per year. Even if it is a royalty-based license CBS is getting a fraction of the ship sales - a few percentage points based on Quarterly Sales. And then CBS has to balance all that against what that iconic ship might be worth to them in the other licensing ventures.
For example, maybe CBS has given a license to someone to produce a new TOS-era video game. The iconic Connie being in that video game might be worth more money to CBS then allowing it to be sold in the C-Store here - and there might even be license restrictions that prohibit CBS from letting any other game use the image for X period of time.
It is never just as easy as saying someone wants it.
And to make it even more confusin...have you played the Star Trek Trexels mobile game? It's ToS constitution where you can build TNG era parts inside. The game of course has microtransactions.
So if they allow cross things like this, I kinda think they like $$$ even if it's a .99 app they will allow just about anything.
A complete absence of decent balancing is compelling evidence? Okay then. I mean, no offense, but you could just have been a better player than all the people you were playing against :P
Still doesn't bypass the fact that CBS aren't going to allow it. This is the issue you need to focus on, not in-universe issues that aren't going to matter until CBS allows it, at which point in-universe reasons can just be hand-waved away.
Well, I could counter that argument by pointing out that the Constitution-class never appeared during TNG/DS9, so it was clearly so old at that point that it wasn't even worth refitting then, never mind now; 60-odd years later.
I wouldn't be too surprised if CBS has placed restrictions on the Miranda as well.
Yes, there is an absence of Constitution class in TNG and DS9, but if Miranda's and Oberth's are still in use, the reason "because the Connie is too old" is ridiculous. Maybe there was a fleet of Connie's assaulting a Section 31 objective during the final battle of the dominion war. Maybe they were defending an assault on the Gateway Planet. Maybe all Connie's are so awesome with their retro-refitted innards that they are exclusively used by Section 31 for temporal incursions.
I will say this, if Cryptic does not bribe you with Arc with a T5 Connie , then you will NEEEEEVER see one, and all these threads can finally die, and the horse can be put in it's grave.
Yes, there is an absence of Constitution class in TNG and DS9, but if Miranda's and Oberth's are still in use, the reason "because the Connie is too old" is ridiculous. Maybe there was a fleet of Connie's assaulting a Section 31 objective during the final battle of the dominion war. Maybe they were defending an assault on the Gateway Planet. Maybe all Connie's are so awesome with their retro-refitted innards that they are exclusively used by Section 31 for temporal incursions.
There was one Connie seen in the entirety of the 24th century shows (not including the time travel episode DS9: "Trials and Tribble-ations"). A Connie that got blown up at Wolf 359 in BOBW.
And it's justifiable as Starfleet having scrambled like frakking mad to get every possible hull that could reach Wolf 359 and had any capship weapons at all onto an intercept course to stop the Locutus cube. They didn't even have time to offload officers' families, as Ben Sisko can attest personally. The 359 Connie was probably sitting in mothballs at Utopia Planitia for decades, or possibly even a museum ship.
I'm not opposed to a T5 Exeter, as long as the Connie skin is not available. This is not a TOS game. You want to fly a Connie in the endgame? Go dig up a used copy of Starfleet Command, or buy EV Nova and download the Starfleet Adventures mod.
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Hey everyone, OP here. Thanks for boosting my ego with all the replies. I've decided to change my mind from my original post: I do want a T5 Connie! I do! Sorry, but its just too iconic and way too much fun running around the TOS bridge and interior...
I'd pay $100 for a connie skin I could slap on any ship in the game- that's right CBS, $$$$$ signs.....
Yes, I would pay that much too, but its much too pricey. $25 to $50 isn't to bad though Please click on my sig below and post this at the official CBS Star Trek forum specifically for STO. I have a post going there now in order to expedite the process.
Hey everyone, OP here. Thanks for boosting my ego with all the replies. I've decided to change my mind from my original post: I do want a T5 Connie! I do! Sorry, but its just too iconic and way too much fun running around the TOS bridge and interior...
Yes! I am so happy to hear another person joining the fight! Please click on my sig below and post this at the official CBS Star Trek forum specifically for STO. I have a post going there now in order to expedite the process.
The problem is that the T2 Cruiser has a TMP Constitution skin. If they could remove the Constitution skin there would probably not be a major problem with them having a T5 version of the ship . I am sure CBS' restriction is not just with the TOS Connie skin but with all Constitution skins.
But you forget. Each "skin" is actually conisdered a class of star ship. This is why they could easily sidestep the Constitution and allow the other two. Since they are part and parcel to STOL, not CBS. Infact since they are new designs CBS can't say a thing about them.
Simple fix, not allow the Constitution skin at tier 5 problem solved. I'd also say the Exeter class as well as a tier 5. Or hell even if they can't get the vesper or the Excalibur, they can for damn sure get an Exeter refit.
Might "look" like a consitiution, but it's it's own ship and PWE owns it lock stock and barrel.
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But you forget. Each "skin" is actually conisdered a class of star ship. This is why they could easily sidestep the Constitution and allow the other two. Since they are part and parcel to STOL, not CBS. Infact since they are new designs CBS can't say a thing about them.
I did not forget it. I was simply stressing that they would need to make certain the Constitution skin did not become part of the option - it seems like a simple thing, but this is Cryptic.
I would also point out that just because the other skins were made by Cryptic does not mean CBS cannot veto their use. I am quite certain that CBS' vetting rights allow them to veto just about anything they want. Depending on the license everything Cryptic makes for STO could possibly become the property of CBS.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yes, my post at the Official CBS Star Trek Forum is still there but they've suspended my posting privileges, I think because I tried to put my sig pic in. Regardless, I made my point, said my piece and now I look to my supporters here to bring it. Please login to the Star Trek Forum and reply to my post with a short note of support for the T5 Connie and inquisition as to the official reason why it can't/won't be done. Let the reply numbers speak for themselves. Never give up! Never surrender!!
I'd pay $100 for a connie skin I could slap on any ship in the game- that's right CBS, $$$$$ signs.....
what about a holoprojector that you buy 2000 zen and that took a device slot?
still with the effect of holo emitter but that would be as close as you can get without cbs veto it!
Put it this way, The Sovereign class is more lovely sleek design than that ugly JJ Enterprise ship. I'm sorry, but that ship is just absolutely horrible, it's a laughing stock.
He is not talking about the JJ ship he is talking about the Old Constitution of the TOS series but but you aren't a Trek fan so I expect response like this.
He is not talking about the JJ ship he is talking about the Old Constitution of the TOS series but but you aren't a Trek fan so I expect response like this.
And you are a logical fallacy-loving idiot, as you so amply demonstrated in another thread. As we tried to explain to you on and off for a month or so, you don't get to decide who is and is not a Trek fan.
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I thinl it should have a captain slot that fires candyfloss wishes coz that's all this is a wish we all know we will Nevet get a T5 connie
First, some background. I had taken a break from the game to play Neverwinter of all things (fun game, btw, just you know, a bit insular? I like it and would probably have stuck with it if my friends had stuck with it. It's great in a small group).
So I came back to Trek because of the free stuff they offered in the pre-Anniversary build up.
And one of the things I hadn't experienced before was the shuttle event. NOR I had I experienced the Shuttle PVP.
Well damn, time to break out a shuttle right?
And that's when I discovered the super secret truth to Cryptic!
2260s equipment is NOT dated tech! Not in the least!
My Class F Shuttle is FAR SUPERIOR to my Type-8 Shuttle.
What's more disturbing is that the Gallileo is straight up ON PAR with the standard Runabout!
This is madness people. IN PVP I can take my janky TOS shuttle and pew pew with the best of them! It turns better than the captain's yacht. Has more consoles than the TNG shuttle. And essentially has the exact same stats as the Danube Runabout.
That's like saying a Connie has more tactical firepower than a Galaxy, turns better than an Armitage, and has the exact same stats as a Defiant!
The argument that the Connie is outdated is completely blown out of the water by how powerful and up to date the Galileo is on the shuttle tier.
Amazing but true.
Connie and miranda are fairly small, flexible and agile ships no? Both featuring heavy forward armaments but relatively light aft armaments (rather like a bop).
Ohhh this is intriguing! And would be badass whenever the flanking goes live.
Can you imagine coming up behind someone with either ship??? feels like the mutara nebula already
Actually, I HAVE head of Pinto's racing Lambo's, and scorching them royally. It's all in building up the car....(in game context, read, sure the Lambo's new, but the Pinto's been "Fleet refitted")
Gotta love the same tired arguments against. As in, the Galaxy's pushing a few decades at least, but that's okay as a T5, the T1 Sci and escort can have a T5 variant, but not the T5 Cruiser/Light cruisers? How are you rationalizing THAT argument? They're just as old, if not older in some cases. Same with some of the T1-3 Klin and Rihan ships that have Fleet variants?
The ONLY valid argument, within the context of this game, against a T5 Constitution, is the "CBS said no". Doesn't explain why there is no T5/Fleet Miranda/Shi-Kahr though.....
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A complete absence of decent balancing is compelling evidence? Okay then. I mean, no offense, but you could just have been a better player than all the people you were playing against :P
Still doesn't bypass the fact that CBS aren't going to allow it. This is the issue you need to focus on, not in-universe issues that aren't going to matter until CBS allows it, at which point in-universe reasons can just be hand-waved away.
Well, I could counter that argument by pointing out that the Constitution-class never appeared during TNG/DS9, so it was clearly so old at that point that it wasn't even worth refitting then, never mind now; 60-odd years later.
I wouldn't be too surprised if CBS has placed restrictions on the Miranda as well.
Of course, the flipside of that argument is (assuming its accuracy about what would happen is) ... why do you hate it so much when people throw money at you?
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My shuttle post was mostly meant to entertain. And be a little informative about the state of shuttles. The T5 Connie aspect was just the tongue in cheek platform I used to launch into my shuttle tirade.
It's a Gallileo! Skills are amplified to 11 on a scale of 10 when rocking the spock shuttle!
I gave up on this actually happening ages ago. Now I just like to have fun discussing the possibility of it happening since I like the topic. If that makes any sense.
And really the part I like most about the shuttle issue is that it's one of those weird Cryptic instances where TOS era equipment is on par with DS9 era equipment, and superior to the TNG era. It's just weird, and fun, and STO at its whackiest.
So everytime someone says something along the lines of "That ship/equipment is too old to be effective" ... I want us all to pour one out on the curb for the Type 8 shuttle since it's beat six ways to Sunday by the Gallilleo!
Other than that, I'm just enjoying the ongoing discussion. I know it bugs some people to see this still be a topic. But I'm not one of those people.
EDIT: I guess the simplest way to explain me in these threads is ... I've given up on it actually happening. Well, not given up. That sounds too bleak. I've come the realization that Cryptic and I have different tastes in ships. And that most likely extends to this particular topic. So I'm content to keep discussing the topic because it is one of my favorite ships in all of Trek. But as far as the game goes, I'm just having fun flying the ships in game they put in that I DO like.
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I should say that I don't think that people should neccessarily give up hope. It could still happen, and if it does, a lot of people will be happy. But if it happens, it'll happen based solely on CBS wanting to make money off of it, not a loophole by Cryptic or any in-universe suggestions made here.
On top of that, I still believe that there are mitigating factors relating to the Reboot Trek franchise as to why CBS continues to block Cryptic from using the Constitution.
I think what annoys me most about this thread is the number of times the same suggestion as to get around what CBS said, despite the fact that that particular dead horse has been flogged many eons ago.
Maybe they should just be like "hey CBS rep, we can guestimate that if we sell more movie and tv based things in this game, we can triple your $$$ profit"
I bet their ears would perk up real fast
For example, maybe CBS has given a license to someone to produce a new TOS-era video game. The iconic Connie being in that video game might be worth more money to CBS then allowing it to be sold in the C-Store here - and there might even be license restrictions that prohibit CBS from letting any other game use the image for X period of time.
It is never just as easy as saying someone wants it.
And to make it even more confusin...have you played the Star Trek Trexels mobile game? It's ToS constitution where you can build TNG era parts inside. The game of course has microtransactions.
So if they allow cross things like this, I kinda think they like $$$ even if it's a .99 app they will allow just about anything.
There was one Connie seen in the entirety of the 24th century shows (not including the time travel episode DS9: "Trials and Tribble-ations"). A Connie that got blown up at Wolf 359 in BOBW.
And it's justifiable as Starfleet having scrambled like frakking mad to get every possible hull that could reach Wolf 359 and had any capship weapons at all onto an intercept course to stop the Locutus cube. They didn't even have time to offload officers' families, as Ben Sisko can attest personally. The 359 Connie was probably sitting in mothballs at Utopia Planitia for decades, or possibly even a museum ship.
I'm not opposed to a T5 Exeter, as long as the Connie skin is not available. This is not a TOS game. You want to fly a Connie in the endgame? Go dig up a used copy of Starfleet Command, or buy EV Nova and download the Starfleet Adventures mod.
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But you forget. Each "skin" is actually conisdered a class of star ship. This is why they could easily sidestep the Constitution and allow the other two. Since they are part and parcel to STOL, not CBS. Infact since they are new designs CBS can't say a thing about them.
Simple fix, not allow the Constitution skin at tier 5 problem solved. I'd also say the Exeter class as well as a tier 5. Or hell even if they can't get the vesper or the Excalibur, they can for damn sure get an Exeter refit.
Might "look" like a consitiution, but it's it's own ship and PWE owns it lock stock and barrel.
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
I would also point out that just because the other skins were made by Cryptic does not mean CBS cannot veto their use. I am quite certain that CBS' vetting rights allow them to veto just about anything they want. Depending on the license everything Cryptic makes for STO could possibly become the property of CBS.
what about a holoprojector that you buy 2000 zen and that took a device slot?
still with the effect of holo emitter but that would be as close as you can get without cbs veto it!
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=528931&page=271
He is not talking about the JJ ship he is talking about the Old Constitution of the TOS series but but you aren't a Trek fan so I expect response like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thmGgtuRp6s
She is beauty next to the refit all the other are just plain dull.
What really need to to happen is buff some of the consols like hull plating which would give more hps.I sure would like to take my refit into a STF.
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