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Re: 4-yr Ann. Event (was: Enjoy another rep for anniversary ships *post #30 & #643*)

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    Either this is a deliberate middle finger to a large proportion of the player base by Cryptic, or someone has the worst tin ear in the history of PR.
    Nah, more like they'll use it for a future event. when have they ever changed the requirements for something like this halfway through? I can't think of any event that has had that radical of a change.... ever.
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    From another thread - http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=14718971&postcount=42

    So it's not a mini-game of our choosing, but it's chance-based. I'm a bit disappointed, as chasing down the mini-Q is a matter of seconds, while the shell game takes about a minute or so and can be failed afair...

    Now I am disappointed, I have to chase some darn miniQ to get a chance in hell to obtain Qmendations?

    Again my question is to get the darn ship do I have to chase miniQs?
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    Now I am disappointed, I have to chase some darn miniQ to get a chance in hell to obtain Qmendations?
    No. You find a Q that either starts running away (and you can catch him almost immediately) or he starts the shell game, which takes about a minute and can be failed. Repeat that 5 times to complete the daily and get your qmendations... on one character.

    Yeah, I'd like to see the faces of people who defend Cryptic in about two weeks...
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    No. You find a Q that either starts running away (and you can catch him almost immediately) or he starts the shell game, which takes about a minute and can be failed. Repeat that 5 times to complete the daily and get your qmendations... on one character.

    Yeah, I'd like to see the faces of people who defend Cryptic in about two weeks...

    So the mission you do it the first time and you get the 400 Qmend and the next day I have to chase miniQs or can I do the mission again?
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    No. You find a Q that either starts running away (and you can catch him almost immediately) or he starts the shell game, which takes about a minute and can be failed. Repeat that 5 times to complete the daily and get your qmendations... on one character.

    Yeah, I'd like to see the faces of people who defend Cryptic in about two weeks...

    Even if you only HAVE to run the FE once, I'm starting to think that 5 minutes per run may not be long enough.

    However one slices this, the sheer bloat in the amount of time needed to get the ship is ridiculous, let alone the time gated nature of it.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Alright. Enough with the trolling in this thread.

    If you have an opinion about the event either way, fine.

    If you have an opinion about other people's opinions, keep your post within the rules or be moderated. Name calling and insulting comments are off-limits.
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hey Bluegeek maybe you can clear it for me, the first day I do the main mission and I get 400 Qmen, the next day can I do the same mission and get 40 qmend or do I have to do the daily chasing miniQs?
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    So the mission you do it the first time and you get the 400 Qmend and the next day I have to chase miniQs or can I do the mission again?

    Mini Qs for the qmmendations, the FE twice more for the rest of ship set.

    although, as others have pointed out, strictly speaking you only need to do the FE once. The other two runs are to get the kit for it and could be run after the event, apparently.

    But who's going to get a shiny new ship and say, 'nope dont need that stuff at all"?
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    Mini Qs for the qmmendations, the FE twice more for the rest of ship set.

    although, as others have pointed out, strictly speaking you only need to do the FE once. The other two runs are to get the kit for it and could be run after the event, apparently.

    But who's going to get a shiny new ship and say, 'nope dont need that stuff at all"?

    But still you need to do the dailies to be able to reach the 1000Qmend needed to obtain the ship yeah?
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    No. You find a Q that either starts running away (and you can catch him almost immediately) or he starts the shell game, which takes about a minute and can be failed. Repeat that 5 times to complete the daily and get your qmendations... on one character.

    Yeah, I'd like to see the faces of people who defend Cryptic in about two weeks...
    suaveks wrote: »
    Repeat that 5 times to complete the daily and get your qmendations... on one character.

    suaveks wrote: »
    Repeat that 5 times

    What...I don't even...what?
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    But still you need to do the dailies to be able to reach the 1000Qmend needed to obtain the ship yeah?

    Indeed.

    Assuming 15 minutes for the FE, and 5 minutes for the dailies.

    It'll take 15 + (5 x 15) minutes to get the ship.

    A further 2 x 15 to get the rest of the set that comes with the ship.

    Don't yet know if these pieces are truly optional or whether they're the bits that make the new mechanisms work.

    Thats per toon, as its all character bound.
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If I have to chase miniQ five time to get a chance for a shell game that you can fail, my answer is I don't need the ship.
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    johngazman wrote: »
    What...I don't even...what?
    You've got to convince 5 mini-q's to go to the party to complete the daily. It doesn't end at just one.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    If I have to chase miniQ five time to get a chance for a shell game that you can fail, my answer is I don't need the ship.

    You begin to see why, once you look at the details here, this isn't feeling like an anniversary event at all.

    Anniversary is dead, beware the grindaversary!
  • terongrayterongray Member Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Something that just struck me. Tactical Key sale just before the event. Perhaps that's their 'answer' to our complaints? "We made keys cheaper so you can just buy those to get more lobi from lock boxes to use instead of grinding." Yeeeeaaaah, no.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    You've got to convince 5 mini-q's to go to the party to complete the daily. It doesn't end at just one.

    My will to live is decreasing rapidly with every piece of news I hear about this "Celebration".

    How STO is still installed on my PC at this point is beyond me. Cryptic and PWE do not deserve my patronage, not anyone else's.
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  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    If I have to chase miniQ five time to get a chance for a shell game that you can fail, my answer is I don't need the ship.
    You don't seem to get it.

    The daily will most probably look like this:

    - Take the Daily from Q hanging around ESD/Qo'noS
    - Beam down to the Academy
    - Find and approach a Mini-Q and talk to it
    - If he runs away, chase it down (takes a few seconds)
    - If he starts the shell game, pick the right box (takes about a minute)
    - Repeat four more times with other Mini Q's
    - Beam up to the ESD/Qo'noS
    - Turn in the Daily to Q and get your Qmendations/rewards

    If you consider other players chasing down Q's, as well as the possibility of a failure, then those 2-5 minutes can turn into 5-10 minutes at worst.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    You don't seem to get it.

    The daily will most probably look like this:

    - Take the Daily from Q hanging around ESD/Qo'noS
    - Beam down to the Academy
    - Find and approach a Mini-Q and talk to it
    - If he runs away, chase it down (takes a few seconds)
    - If he starts the shell game, pick the right box (takes about a minute)
    - Repeat four more times with other Mini Q's
    - Beam up to the ESD/Qo'noS
    - Turn in the Daily to Q and get your Qmendations/rewards

    If you consider other players chasing down Q's, as well as the possibility of a failure, then those 2-5 minutes can turn into 5-10 minutes at worst.
    This^ I've done it before, and it wasn't really all that hard...
    johngazman wrote: »
    My will to live is decreasing rapidly with every piece of news I hear about this "Celebration".

    How STO is still installed on my PC at this point is beyond me. Cryptic and PWE do not deserve my patronage, not anyone else's.
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  • jim625jim625 Member Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    how about "chase the devs mini game" and you get to shoot them with lasers
  • suavekssuaveks Member Posts: 1,736 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    This^ I've done it before, and it wasn't really all that hard...I can haz ur stuff?
    It wasn't "hard". But did you have fun doing it? Repeatedly...?
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  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If there are few of us chasing miniQs, but what if there is a lot of players, then what 309 minutes 45 minutes? There went my whole time and then I still have to do Nukara, New Romulus, Dyson for just 1 character. No thank you, they can keep the ship.
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  • enyojarosenyojaros Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Usually look forward to anniversary events as they are a break from the usual grind but this year I'll be giving it all a miss.
    Likely wont even bother with the 'mission' I'll just watch it on youtube.
    This is the first time I've thought that an entire event was a complete waste of dev time, at least from my perspective. To those that enjoy this sort of thing - more power to you.
  • jengozjengoz Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    suaveks wrote: »
    You don't seem to get it.

    The daily will most probably look like this:

    - Take the Daily from Q hanging around ESD/Qo'noS
    - Beam down to the Academy
    - Find and approach a Mini-Q and talk to it
    - If he runs away, chase it down (takes a few seconds)
    - If he starts the shell game, pick the right box (takes about a minute)
    - Repeat four more times with other Mini Q's
    - Beam up to the ESD/Qo'noS
    - Turn in the Daily to Q and get your Qmendations/rewards

    If you consider other players chasing down Q's, as well as the possibility of a failure, then those 2-5 minutes can turn into 5-10 minutes at worst.

    Here is the thing. that is TRIBBLE boring content. How about this:

    - Take the Daily from Q hanging around ESD/Qo'noS
    - Que up for somthing you like to do. Like a Foundry mission or a Borg STF
    - Get Qmedation for playing the above. you know something fun. The content the Devs spent time on. Not something they threw together.
    - Tell your firends what a great game STO is.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    at last somone who sees it the way i do, i was begining to think i was unique.

    you two imo are a small group getting smaller ever grind they put out
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    daan2006 wrote: »
    you two imo are a small group getting smaller ever grind they put out

    ^^^ this is the truth. a year ago, this whole discussion would have been very different.. now, its less fan boyish, and more realistic..
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    jengoz wrote: »
    Here is the thing. that is TRIBBLE boring content. How about this:

    - Take the Daily from Q hanging around ESD/Qo'noS
    - Que up for somthing you like to do. Like a Foundry mission or a Borg STF
    - Get Qmedation for playing the above. you know something fun. The content the Devs spent time on. Not something they threw together.
    - Tell your firends what a great game STO is.

    The devs could have chosen several Foundry missions and make them qualify for the daily event, period, simple, no freaking idiotic looking miniQs chasing.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    The devs could have chosen several Foundry missions and make them qualify for the daily event, period, simple, no freaking idiotic looking miniQs chasing.

    They could have been even more reasonable.

    400 Qmendations the first time you run the new FE, 100 thereafter.

    So, run the FE 7 times, get your ship.

    Leave the mini q out of it completely.
  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    They could have been even more reasonable.

    400 Qmendations the first time you run the new FE, 100 thereafter.

    So, run the FE 7 times, get your ship.

    Leave the mini q out of it completely.

    That I would probably do with multiple toons.

    The way they're handling this, though...I'll probably get halfway through the grind and then get fed up with all the kids griefing me at the Academy.
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    hanover2 wrote: »
    That I would probably do with multiple toons.

    The way they're handling this, though...I'll probably get halfway through the grind and then get fed up with all the kids griefing me at the Academy.

    Yup, me too.

    It's still a grind and we probably cant get past the 20 hour cool down.

    But seven days, playing content thats surely going to be infinitely more interesting, is better than 15 days chasing blasted mini Q's all over the place.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    They could have been even more reasonable.

    400 Qmendations the first time you run the new FE, 100 thereafter.

    So, run the FE 7 times, get your ship.

    Leave the mini q out of it completely.

    I'd find that perfectly acceptable. I did SoI way more times than required and I wasn't that bothered by that.

    This? This is completely unreasonable. I'd rather they just put the ship in the C-Store and be done with it.
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