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Re: 4-year annviersary ships - The Dyson Science Destroyers

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  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Phew - At least it's not the dauntless !


    Each to their own and all that, but i really don't understand why a ship that wasn't even a real starfleet ship, and on top of that somewhat resembled a door wedge
    Maybe after studying quantum slipstream for a while, Starfleet engineers determined that the shape of the Dauntless would be the most conducive to long term slipstream travel. At least until they perfected the tech.

    Or maybe someone at Utopia Planitia studied the records of the Dauntless from Voyager and figured out that the ship's hull configuration caused it to do less damage to subspace while it was traveling at conventional warp speeds and decided to test it out on a working model of the ship.

    Or some admiral (maybe Janeway herself) looked at it and thought it was cool.
  • litchy74litchy74 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    What I would like but will not happen,.....

    With the on going conflicts we don't have the resources to invest into newly built ships, these are required on our front lines, therefore our engineering corps have refitted older vessels which we can test these new technologies.

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    K'vort-Klingon


    Would be nice.........
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    I'd say that is not the Dominion set shield, but they're suposed to be Dyson hybrids so it is purple. I'd even go as far as saying that this is their default look. :(

    That's why I said I hope that they can use skins from their respective factions in my previous post.

    The more I think about it the more I'm afraid you're right on the former...and hope you're right on the latter.
    Otherwise the Klingon one looks more like something used by the Hydrans

    http://gameswalls.com/wallpapers/s/star-trek-starfleet-command-2/hydran-destroyer-1.jpg

    ...again SFC.:confused:
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,462 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yeah, thank god Cryptic will release the Long Range Tactical Vessel with 4/3 Weapons Layout, Borg Security Team, Heavy Cannon and Rapid Transphasic and Rapid Quantum Launchers with 180*.

    :D:P

    Because this ship was canon... For the Kyrians

    You forgot one or two things.
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Warship_Voyager

    Maybe add an advanced battle cloak to end Romulan Dominion in PVP. :P
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  • nobletnoblet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    These look fail. More and more like PWI's elaborate scepter from their fantasy games and less like Star Trek ships.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    You know what the Federation have as well?

    A B'rel Bird-of-Prey.

    Are you saying the Federation should start build Klingon Bird-of-Prey because they actually have one.

    Where did I say that the Federation should start building Bird of Preys? The Dauntless is a Starfleet inspired design and it is easy to see some Starfleet Engineer wanting to build this ship.
    No, that is called "bad writing" because the ship had so many errors (NX-01A for example) that anyone would see something was wrong, you know like B'elanna Torres apparently being a genius but being unable to identify manure with a tricorder because Janeway have to look good at every single time.

    The Voyager crew has been gone for years so they can't keep track of any scientific discoveries that the Federation has made since they disappeared. Besides NX is not a commonly used designation and there was no NX-01 when it aired. NX Registries consisted of numbers like NX-74205 and NX-72307 so NX-01A was a valid registry at the time it aired.
    The "Galaxy-X" is just a upgrade, nothing about reporting anything as the ship was the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D after a refit, other ships from that episode also appeared in DS9 and Voyager like the Negh'Var class and the Olympic class.

    Simply the same upgrade that happened to the Enterprise-D happened in STO timeline, situation is even similar so no reason why such a update would not been considered and implemented.

    So the Phaser Lance and cloak was not inspired by Picard's experience of that alternate timeline? Obviously the Galaxy update is the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit and not the Galaxy-X.
    OK since you dont get it.

    The Dauntless had exactly ONE feature, Slipstream ... thats what did and ONLY what it did, it have nothing else.

    So you are saying they should have build a small and utter useless ship outside going really fast that happens to be the exact same feature everyone gets at lv 50.

    Warship Voyager is just dumb on the sense its a exaggeration but the Dauntless is just U-S-E-L-E-S-S.

    My worse comment was not based on abilities, but believability. Sure the Warship Voyager is better than the Dauntless as far as combat goes, but it makes absolutely no sense for it to be in the game while the Dauntless does make sense as I previously indicated. The Dauntless was merely a prototype so thinking that a Dauntless-class ship would suck is flawed since obviously Starfleet would have updated it with better shields, weapons, and abilities. Cryptic can design the ship however they want, but Cryptic must follow only two requirements for a Dauntless ship, some Slipstream bonus and the look. After all, Cryptic created an entire Voth faction based on one episode and I don't remember any dinosaur pets or Voth in Mechs in that episode.
  • darakossdarakoss Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    then came the miranda vs connie fight, the miranda had the connie dead to rights anyways, it was by some action of kirk that the enterprise survived the fight at all, but even he realized his enterprise and in large the connie class as a whole was gone for good at that point"

    Ummm..what? The Enterprise was unshielded at the time. And where on-screen did Kirk "realize the entire Constitution class was gone for good? As I recall the Reliant ultimately lost. So when a 70 year old B'rel tore through a Galaxy class did Riker realize that the Galaxy class was gone for good??
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  • darakossdarakoss Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    more like one of those technological designs that you run across that just happens to stick really really well. there is only two fed ship classes that survived from TOS to ds9 and 1 klingon design, excelsior, miranda and b'rel. starfleet is not known for keeping old tech laying around or always upgrading it, the connie was phased out by the excel and retired from service after a few decades of use, it was clear the connie was beyond upgrades to keep the class and then came the miranda vs connie fight, the miranda had the connie dead to rights anyways, it was by some action of kirk that the enterprise survived the fight at all, but even he realized his enterprise and in large the connie class as a whole was gone for good at that point. by mid 2300's the akira was designed and produced and the miranda was relegated to freight running until the design was recalled for the war. if the miranda could shame the connie in such a way even with a madman in control of the ship, then the excelsior would of been far more then a match in power if it came to a straight out fight as the miranda was just stronger but not by much.

    the excelsior on the other hand had the transwarp drive failure but the design kept it going, got a sensor upgrade and spent the better part of its cycle as an admiral's flagship, ferrying VIP's around and such then came the upgrade just before the war to make the design even more stronger, enough to put it on par with the galaxy class. and since that happened then there clearly is still some more to be found in the design still before it gets put into retirement.

    the excelsior had no need to cheat for dyson tech, however if it did get such tech, it may never need to retired for another century at least. but if the connie did, it may upgrade it to t5, but i doubt it would ever get beyond that because it's like putting a an aging stubborn feather weight fighter in the superweight category.

    then the klingon b'rel and k't'inga's, ancient enduring designs and most klingon designs last centuries before replacement and probably get upgrades. say what you like about starfleet engineers being creative and adapting, klingon engineers build their ships to last and easy to upgrade probably because they have prefabricated modular designed parts, so take an eps conduit from a negh'var and put it on a b'rel and there wont be any issue. so they must adapt the original design to be even more effective or design a new part that remains within standard specs to plug in correctly without issue. everything about their ships is geared towards combat.

    adding dyson tech there? why would the klingons need it for? anyways, maybe they could bring back the d7 class with this tech.



    Ummm..what? The Enterprise was unshielded at the time. And where on-screen did Kirk "realize the entire Constitution class was gone for good? As I recall the Reliant ultimately lost. So when a 70 year old B'rel tore through a Galaxy class did Riker realize that the Galaxy class was gone for good??


    don't know why this double posted...sry
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The Dauntless and the Warager were at least canon on screen unlike most of the Fed KDF and Romulan ships. Not to mention half of the Lock-Box ones.

    So both ships do have more rights to appear ingame instead of the "not even seen on screen or in books" ships.
  • miirikmiirik Member Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    the starfleet ship looks almost like an unpolished NPC ship

    KDF is meh

    Rom is OK

    I'll want to see pictures of them against some better lighting and such.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,462 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    lixiasaran wrote: »

    The federation design looks familiar. I don't think it'll win any beauty contests..

    Neither will the Klingon and Romulan designs in my opinion BTW.
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  • strorusstrorus Member Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    http://imgur.com/a/Iosic

    You can see how they are hybrid they have Obelisk lattice work / pattern as part of the hull.

    I think these ships have taken people by surprise as most people early in the thread thought the Anniversary ships would be new variants of existing ships like the Galaxy etc.

    I for one really like them... I have been suggesting for ages hybrid ships.

    I like!

    Also, I wonder what their classes (Sci, Eng, Tac), stats and any abilities will be. I hope in terms of classes they come with a Uni Cmd slot so all careers can use them... Although that may cause too many people to have these ships.

    :D
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    The federation design looks familiar. I don't think it'll win any beauty contests..

    Neither will the Klingon and Romulan designs in my opinion BTW.

    Wasn't it one of the designs for the Defiant or Enterprise-E? One of those ended up modified as Nova years later.

    I remember seeing a similar saucer with this slit and a cannon was placed where the slit ended
  • lomax6996lomax6996 Member Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Prophets, make it stop!

    NO! Goddess make it SO! :D
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  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Wonder what the specs are!

    Anyone know?
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    darakoss wrote: »
    Ummm..what? The Enterprise was unshielded at the time. And where on-screen did Kirk "realize the entire Constitution class was gone for good? As I recall the Reliant ultimately lost. So when a 70 year old B'rel tore through a Galaxy class did Riker realize that the Galaxy class was gone for good??


    don't know why this double posted...sry

    the reliant only lost because kirk used a dirty trick to get into the reliant computer with command codes. had he not had that option open... your opinion on the subject is baseless.

    and the galaxy class was a new design, and there were references throughout TNG about the enterprise needing upgrades. maybe you should read more into how the character mention what they do in trek then come back and try post a valid fact about it.
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Who licked those pics by the way? I bet certain Devs would pay pretty much for giving them the name..:D


    Damn i meant leaked..
  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    strorus wrote: »
    http://imgur.com/a/Iosic

    You can see how they are hybrid they have Obelisk lattice work / pattern as part of the hull.

    I think these ships have taken people by surprise as most people early in the thread thought the Anniversary ships would be new variants of existing ships like the Galaxy etc.

    I for one really like them... I have been suggesting for ages hybrid ships.

    I like!

    Also, I wonder what their classes (Sci, Eng, Tac), stats and any abilities will be. I hope in terms of classes they come with a Uni Cmd slot so all careers can use them... Although that may cause too many people to have these ships.

    :D

    Y'know, looking at the Federation ship, it looks like that big gap in the middle could double as a railcannon.

    ...that would be awesome.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    strorus wrote: »

    if true this is just a rather lazy attempt. a rebranded t4.5 fed science ship with a section missing in the middle, a vet reward ship with different colors and a ar'kif tactical bird with some tubes sticking out the rear of the wings and rebranded.

    for now need official confirmation, not pohotshoped what might be pictures.
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Y'know, looking at the Federation ship, it looks like that big gap in the middle could double as a railcannon.

    ...that would be awesome.

    Yes, with a 1* firering arc :D
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If those are the actual anniversary ships...yeah, someone's gonna get hit with a permaban at LEAST for that leak.

    Like the rommie, the other two are ugly.
  • platewearingbirdplatewearingbird Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    If those are the actual anniversary ships...yeah, someone's gonna get hit with a permaban at LEAST for that leak.

    Like the rommie, the other two are ugly.

    You kidding? I like the Fed.

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  • mreeves7amreeves7a Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Is it just me...or do those images like rep window banners? I hope we aren't going to have to grind for them.
  • platewearingbirdplatewearingbird Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    mreeves7a wrote: »
    Is it just me...or do those images like rep window banners? I hope we aren't going to have to grind for them.

    You'll have to grind the Login reputation to get them.
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited January 2014
    I logged in today into my Fleet, and upon logging in I saw a message from one of my captains... which included a link... which turn to be Very interesting one once I saw what it contained...

    Could this be, the 4th Year Anniversary Ships???

    Did someone at Cryptic Spill the Beans????

    http://imgur.com/a/Iosic

    What are your thoughts???
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Kdf looks like an Andorian ship and fed looks looks like a bug with the she'll spun around. Rom looks kinda pink power ranger mobile...

    So...ya...since they will all be mirror stats of each other they will be escort/destroyer like...so I'm excited
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Ohhh, pretty. :)
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  • abfabfleetabfabfleet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I logged in today into my Fleet, and upon logging in I saw a message from one of my captains... which included a link... which turn to be Very interesting one once I saw what it contained...

    Could this be, the 4th Year Anniversary Ships???

    Did someone at Cryptic Spill the Beans????

    http://imgur.com/a/Iosic

    What are your thoughts???

    I say no, unless they are part of a fleet listed under the persons album, once you click on their name. But hey, you never know.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You'll have to grind the Login reputation to get them.
    Those FIENDS!!!! What horrible tortures will they put us through next????

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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If these are the actual anniversary ships, then color me disappointed. I was really looking forward to new designs. An Ar'Kif/Ar'Kala, a Mogh/Peghqu', and a Fed Star Cruiser/Recon Sci Vessel mix. These just look so uninspired. Then again, these are hybrid vessels. Each faction probably took an existing ship class and rebuilt it with Dyson Sphere technology.
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