No but we can say with certainty that BOTH time Iconian gates were built, they were not in military facilities. One was a lone building in the middle of a forest so that can hardly be considered secure. Besides, I would rather believe Picard and Data, characters written by the creators of Star Trek then some backwater gaming company.
ORLY? The first one was a bombed out ruin that was launching probes that either crippled or destroyed starships. Sounds pretty military to me....
The second.... was a ruin overgrown due to millennia of neglect, we have no way to know what it looked like when the Iconians were using it.
Even Picard and Data added a caveat that they weren't sure if the Iconians were peaceful or not.
One does not simply build military facilities. Its easier to be unnoticed in a small facility in a forest than it is to have a massive well armed complex. Thick doors, booby traps and a few soldiers in a secret facility is far more secure.
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Fits in with the times. This is definitely the ADHD generation and the content is center around that. I agree with you that Rom mission arc was the most cohesive though it too had some major issue like why exactly would the Tal Shiar help the Iconians blow up Romulus.
Sad to say it is all about the bling now (shiny lock boxes, consoles and holdings) and not substance. Maybe they will throw us a few more bones now that Dorn has recorded some lines.
I rarely post here, but it just seems to me that the Devs have absolutely no plot outline at all to work off of.
They jump from one "plot" area to another in a totally disjointed way, with no continuity bridges to make any of it believable. In example I will use the original Romulan story arc...
And let me state that the Romulan story line, from the beginning, was IMHO, the best thought out, and most absorbing one in the history of this title...
So, I was totally invested in it, loved the missions, etc... then... Sorry, off to DS9 with you, we are done here.
Huh?
It was like having the floor fall out from under you. And every new season since has been the same way. This isn't Star Trek, it's Short Attention Span Theatre, with pew pew guns.
There is enough fodder in any of the original story lines, be it Fed vs. Klingons, the Romulans, the whole DS9 can of worms, that you could pick ONE of them and develop it out for years. But no, they have to skip all over the place, yanking us around with them on their A.D.D. romp through the universe.
It's sad really.
I so agree with this.
There are several stories going on and its all confusing. The old ones doesn't feel like they are completed.
I loved the Dominion stories.. but nothing has been done here since ages ago. Which I feel is a pitty. I loved to see more of the Dominion uprise etc.
What happened to the Undine... which was a very interesting species and enemy.
What happened to the klingon war? Was there a mission where the Klingon and Federation decided to come together and become peaceful? If so I missed it.
Even the Voth people.. this is why I feel they needed to tell the story in missions (series) rather than a battle zones /reputation system. Its just fall flat.
I can tell you that I spend most of my time playing through the missions. I do Defera.. which is fun. I do some STF here and there and I visit the New Romulan map. I visit Nimbus, which I loved. I wish they had done something like Nimbus with the Voth story.
But even so.., at the moment its all messy. They can have different stories going on but they need to place it in such way its logical and its a journey your character follow.
Maybe they need to stop people from quickly leveling and have them level up via the storylines. And the storylines should not end at level 50. Having hidden stories in reputation system or in combat zones is not a brilliant idea. Some people don't like the space battle zone.
I and many others have pointed out that people literally complain about everything. EVERYTHING!
STO might have jumped the dinosaur with Season 8.
But the STO forums jumped the dinosaur when they were legitimately complaining that the servers weren't crashing multiple times on launch, and therefore Season 8 sucked.
I mean the gall you have to have to complain that because Cryptic's multiple efforts to address server load over a period of months (which most of us remember was horrendous with constant downtimes and emergency maintenance, and STILL have disconnects and SNRs after the fact)... that when it isn't broken, they're actually disappointed.
Don't get me wrong, people have connection issues with Season 8 as they've clearly shown on the forums. All is not well when it comes to connectivity, obviously.
But the fact there isn't constant disconnects, login queues, SNRs... this is cause for complaint. People are actually complaining that STO isn't broken.
And I have to suspend my disbelief for that more than I do with fictional computer-generated dinosaurs with lasers attached to their heads.
But the STO forums jumped the dinosaur when they were legitimately complaining that the servers weren't crashing multiple times on launch, and therefore Season 8 sucked.
I mean the gall you have to have to complain that because Cryptic's multiple efforts to address server load over a period of months (which most of us remember was horrendous with constant downtimes and emergency maintenance, and STILL have disconnects and SNRs after the fact)... that when it isn't broken, they're actually disappointed.
Don't get me wrong, people have connection issues with Season 8 as they've clearly shown on the forums. All is not well when it comes to connectivity, obviously.
But the fact there isn't constant disconnects, login queues, SNRs... this is cause for complaint. People are actually complaining that STO isn't broken.
And I have to suspend my disbelief for that more than I do with fictional computer-generated dinosaurs with lasers attached to their heads.
But you gotta admit, pimp canin' a V-Rex is miiiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtyyyyyyy satisfyin':cool:
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Tried Season 8 on Tribble didn't like but thought have a go on Holodeck over the weekend. Still hated the Dyson sphere. Ground consisted of just do X then run to next area, do Y then run to next area and repeat, rush rush rush. Those blasted mortars forced me to run in circle which then made me dizzle. In the end I replace my away team with 2 engineers with shield and medical generators and mine barrier, now I could remain in one place with out getting killed. Still hate the T-rex. The Space zone was just so confusing, missions would pop and then I had to decide which mission I would do in case they are on a timer. The duty officer mission are hard to find. The only playable mission is The Breach, 70 marks for 15 to 20 mins is a no-brainer.
Season 8 also introduced a lot of bugs. The ones that affect me are the Orellius Dailies and the Defense Contract Daily. Also a fairly nice Exploit has appeared, shame I don't need it now.
I think I will give most of Season 8 a miss I will just do Orellius and Eta Eridani Dailies, the Mirror Universe Incursion and The Breach every thing else is just a waste of time.
Gotta admit, after playing the new season for a week now... my opinion is the same.
This season is BORING.
With the exception of the ground mission it's basically NR broken into sections. Run here, do this. Same repeatable missions with the same ships and characters in space. Click the same prompts for the same results every day.
Epic scale grind-map with very impressive graphics... but after a week (a ******n WEEK) I've done everything to death.
Gotta admit, after playing the new season for a week now... my opinion is the same.
This season is BORING.
With the exception of the ground mission it's basically NR broken into sections. Run here, do this. Same repeatable missions with the same ships and characters in space. Click the same prompts for the same results every day.
Epic scale grind-map with very impressive graphics... but after a week (a ******n WEEK) I've done everything to death.
So.. when's season 9 coming out?
Season 8 isn't done yet, only part of the Dyson warzone has been released. :P
Gotta admit, after playing the new season for a week now... my opinion is the same.
This season is BORING.
You think it's boring after playing it for a week? Try not being able to play it for a week! A lot of STO players can't log-in, for 7 days now, thanks to a game launcher bug that crashes us to desktop every time, no fix in sight. But thanks for the heads-up. It actually helps to know we're not missing anything exciting. At this point, I'd settle for mailbox access while chatting with Morn, if that's all I could do.
So following the logic of this thread then, it's a success?
Generally they measure the success of a season by how badly the servers crash, the worse they are, the more people are logging on.
The servers didn't crash because a lot of people physically couldn't log on.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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Wow the mods of this game have become soft, in my old time few years back, the OP would have been banned and this topic buried in neverfindit land.
Softer mods seems we have now
Opinions are the spice of life and frankly, we are not in a dictatorship. Although sometimes I think that Cryptic thinks that they are some kind of benevolent dictatorship. However, the OP did nothing wrong in challenging key aspects, shows that they care about the game.
I wish more people would do that and demand quality instead of just accepting any old rubbish from Cryptic. Its sad that isn't the case these days...
Opinions are the spice of life and frankly, we are not in a dictatorship. Although sometimes I think that Cryptic thinks that they are some kind of benevolent dictatorship. However, the OP did nothing wrong in challenging key aspects, shows that they care about the game.
I wish more people would do that and demand quality instead of just accepting any old rubbish from Cryptic. Its sad that isn't the case these days...
But we are in a dictatorship. Cryptic makes the rules here, or maybe PWE does, and we either abide by them or get banished from this land, never to possibly return.
On topic: One thing that I am noticing is that it's kind of hard to coordinate in the Dyson sphere if you aren't in a premade team. Case in point, Zone chat covers every instance of the area, which is normally fine and welcomed except in the case of Earth Space dock, where I wish chat would be disabled. I feel that in the Dyson zone in particular, we should be placed on a team whenever we zone in, so that we can at least somewhat coordinate effectively.
Sardak (Science Officer): Captain of a 23k DPS R'Mor Temporal Science Vessel, R.R.W. Vathos Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Sorry Mark, but this kind of reads like random trivia, not something resembling a coherent story. I give you props for trying to sort it out, but it's not really saying anything.
Sounds like a pretty solid interpretation of Season 8's...uh..."story," such as it is:
"Random disjointed ramblings, 'cause we really wanted dinosaurs with frikkin' laser beams on their heads and refused to take no for an answer."
The servers didn't crash because a lot of people physically couldn't log on.
So basically, Cryptic's attempts to fix things is working...in a sense. They've gotten rid of the constant server crashes on new season release, and now just have to solve "that other problem." :P
Sounds like a pretty solid interpretation of Season 8's...uh..."story," such as it is:
"Random disjointed ramblings, 'cause we really wanted dinosaurs with frikkin' laser beams on their heads and refused to take no for an answer."
Quoted for truth.
How'd we end up with the Voth anyway? I thought the Krenim won that poll by 2:1 over ... the entire rest of the quadrant, I think. I know I voted for the Vidiians.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
But we are in a dictatorship. Cryptic makes the rules here, or maybe PWE does, and we either abide by them or get banished from this land, never to possibly return.
On topic: One thing that I am noticing is that it's kind of hard to coordinate in the Dyson sphere if you aren't in a premade team. Case in point, Zone chat covers every instance of the area, which is normally fine and welcomed except in the case of Earth Space dock, where I wish chat would be disabled. I feel that in the Dyson zone in particular, we should be placed on a team whenever we zone in, so that we can at least somewhat coordinate effectively.
If you want to only communicate with people in your zone, you can use the "Local" chat channel. I havent' tested to see if it covers the entire Zone yet, but as long as you're in a close group it should work.
How'd we end up with the Voth anyway? I thought the Krenim won that poll by 2:1 over ... the entire rest of the quadrant, I think. I know I voted for the Vidiians.
Well, as several people have pointed out, the poll was apparently released when the devs were already half-way done with season 8. So the Voth were already in the works at that time, and the Krenim are an enemy we'll fight later.
How'd we end up with the Voth anyway? I thought the Krenim won that poll by 2:1 over ... the entire rest of the quadrant, I think. I know I voted for the Vidiians.
Its like "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"
"You chose A for Krenim"
"But we don't wanna give you that!"
I doubt the Krenim will ever make an appearance because its what the players want and what they want is never usually what they get in this game. So basically, they started a poll with the sole intention of ignoring it because they wanted the Voth...
If you want to only communicate with people in your zone, you can use the "Local" chat channel. I havent' tested to see if it covers the entire Zone yet, but as long as you're in a close group it should work.
No, it doesn't cover the entire zone- that's what Zone is for. (I know, right?)
Local is for "everyone in about a 30 foot (in-game distance) radius from your character."
No, it doesn't cover the entire zone- that's what Zone is for. (I know, right?)
Local is for "everyone in about a 30 foot (in-game distance) radius from your character."
Ah, I see. Yeah that would be problematic for some team events. It would be nice if it did though. Mine Trap and the ground battlezone would be a lot easier if we could use Zone chat without having comm chatter from multiple instances in the same channel. Team chat is inadequate since there are multiple teams to communicate with.
Well, as several people have pointed out, the poll was apparently released when the devs were already half-way done with season 8. So the Voth were already in the works at that time, and the Krenim are an enemy we'll fight later.
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One does not simply build military facilities. Its easier to be unnoticed in a small facility in a forest than it is to have a massive well armed complex. Thick doors, booby traps and a few soldiers in a secret facility is far more secure.
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I so agree with this.
There are several stories going on and its all confusing. The old ones doesn't feel like they are completed.
I loved the Dominion stories.. but nothing has been done here since ages ago. Which I feel is a pitty. I loved to see more of the Dominion uprise etc.
What happened to the Undine... which was a very interesting species and enemy.
What happened to the klingon war? Was there a mission where the Klingon and Federation decided to come together and become peaceful? If so I missed it.
Even the Voth people.. this is why I feel they needed to tell the story in missions (series) rather than a battle zones /reputation system. Its just fall flat.
I can tell you that I spend most of my time playing through the missions. I do Defera.. which is fun. I do some STF here and there and I visit the New Romulan map. I visit Nimbus, which I loved. I wish they had done something like Nimbus with the Voth story.
But even so.., at the moment its all messy. They can have different stories going on but they need to place it in such way its logical and its a journey your character follow.
Maybe they need to stop people from quickly leveling and have them level up via the storylines. And the storylines should not end at level 50. Having hidden stories in reputation system or in combat zones is not a brilliant idea. Some people don't like the space battle zone.
A Large Mouth Bass is 10x more agressive than a shark. I would say that instead of a shark in that analogy.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
You absolutely missed the Austin Powers reference.....
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STO might have jumped the dinosaur with Season 8.
But the STO forums jumped the dinosaur when they were legitimately complaining that the servers weren't crashing multiple times on launch, and therefore Season 8 sucked.
I mean the gall you have to have to complain that because Cryptic's multiple efforts to address server load over a period of months (which most of us remember was horrendous with constant downtimes and emergency maintenance, and STILL have disconnects and SNRs after the fact)... that when it isn't broken, they're actually disappointed.
Don't get me wrong, people have connection issues with Season 8 as they've clearly shown on the forums. All is not well when it comes to connectivity, obviously.
But the fact there isn't constant disconnects, login queues, SNRs... this is cause for complaint. People are actually complaining that STO isn't broken.
And I have to suspend my disbelief for that more than I do with fictional computer-generated dinosaurs with lasers attached to their heads.
But you gotta admit, pimp canin' a V-Rex is miiiiiiiiggggghhhhhhtyyyyyyy satisfyin':cool:
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Who else can say they've fly kicked a dinosaur to death?
Looks good on a resume.
Harden up Princess
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See this man is a positive thinker!
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Season 8 also introduced a lot of bugs. The ones that affect me are the Orellius Dailies and the Defense Contract Daily. Also a fairly nice Exploit has appeared, shame I don't need it now.
I think I will give most of Season 8 a miss I will just do Orellius and Eta Eridani Dailies, the Mirror Universe Incursion and The Breach every thing else is just a waste of time.
My character Tsin'xing
This season is BORING.
With the exception of the ground mission it's basically NR broken into sections. Run here, do this. Same repeatable missions with the same ships and characters in space. Click the same prompts for the same results every day.
Epic scale grind-map with very impressive graphics... but after a week (a ******n WEEK) I've done everything to death.
So.. when's season 9 coming out?
My character Tsin'xing
You think it's boring after playing it for a week? Try not being able to play it for a week! A lot of STO players can't log-in, for 7 days now, thanks to a game launcher bug that crashes us to desktop every time, no fix in sight. But thanks for the heads-up. It actually helps to know we're not missing anything exciting. At this point, I'd settle for mailbox access while chatting with Morn, if that's all I could do.
So following the logic of this thread then, it's a success?
Generally they measure the success of a season by how badly the servers crash, the worse they are, the more people are logging on.
Harden up Princess
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Come on, we both know its "how much money players spend" which dictate how "successful" a season is.
Softer mods seems we have now
Most unexpectedly, this turned into a flame-fest! Closed it goes!. /sigh What flamefestery is this? pwlaughingtrendy
Forums are here to keep the cranks busy and away from the eyes of the public.
Opinions are the spice of life and frankly, we are not in a dictatorship. Although sometimes I think that Cryptic thinks that they are some kind of benevolent dictatorship. However, the OP did nothing wrong in challenging key aspects, shows that they care about the game.
I wish more people would do that and demand quality instead of just accepting any old rubbish from Cryptic. Its sad that isn't the case these days...
But we are in a dictatorship. Cryptic makes the rules here, or maybe PWE does, and we either abide by them or get banished from this land, never to possibly return.
On topic: One thing that I am noticing is that it's kind of hard to coordinate in the Dyson sphere if you aren't in a premade team. Case in point, Zone chat covers every instance of the area, which is normally fine and welcomed except in the case of Earth Space dock, where I wish chat would be disabled. I feel that in the Dyson zone in particular, we should be placed on a team whenever we zone in, so that we can at least somewhat coordinate effectively.
Odan Brota (Science Officer): Captain of a 28k DPS Scryer Intel Science Vessel, U.S.S. Kepler
Patiently waiting for a Romulan Science Vessel
Sounds like a pretty solid interpretation of Season 8's...uh..."story," such as it is:
"Random disjointed ramblings, 'cause we really wanted dinosaurs with frikkin' laser beams on their heads and refused to take no for an answer."
So basically, Cryptic's attempts to fix things is working...in a sense. They've gotten rid of the constant server crashes on new season release, and now just have to solve "that other problem." :P
Quoted for truth.
How'd we end up with the Voth anyway? I thought the Krenim won that poll by 2:1 over ... the entire rest of the quadrant, I think. I know I voted for the Vidiians.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
My character Tsin'xing
My character Tsin'xing
Its like "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"
"You chose A for Krenim"
"But we don't wanna give you that!"
I doubt the Krenim will ever make an appearance because its what the players want and what they want is never usually what they get in this game. So basically, they started a poll with the sole intention of ignoring it because they wanted the Voth...
Good job Cryptic!
No, it doesn't cover the entire zone- that's what Zone is for. (I know, right?)
Local is for "everyone in about a 30 foot (in-game distance) radius from your character."
My character Tsin'xing
Quote so maybe some one will actually read it.