Barclay gets referenced (Well, he would be the resident expert on long-range trans-Quadrant communications since the Pathfinder Project would've failed without him, really... and he was on the Enterprise-D in 2369 when they discovered the Sphere...), the sphere from "Relics" is semi-officially named the "Jenolan Sphere"...
Though Voyager was 70,000 lightyears from Federation space and its voyage would be 70 years, that's a thousand light-years a year... if the Callisto is 30,000 light years away and only has three years left on their mission, how did they get to the Delta Quad and how are they getting back?
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^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
Dear sto team I had an idea on how to incorporate the delta and or gamma quadrants in the game star fleet has just created the quantum transwarp core which is now standred on all starfleet ships it was an idea I had from a book I was writing I just wanted to throw the idea out there I hope this helps you guys I love STO
Okay, so the U.S.S. Callisto has been on an exploration mission for the past 3 years in the Delta Quadrat -- but Dstahl says that 'transportation to the Delta Quadrant is an issue they'll have to tackle'.
Actually it says it has 3 year more to go on it's mission. It doesn't say how long it has been doing it's mission.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
If Barclay is voices by the actor who played him in TNG and Voyager, I am totally going to log back in to play that mission(s) when available.
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i'm no expert, but if this object is 30000 lightyears away, doesn't that mean that the array is giving starfleet data about it from 30000 years ago??
Transmissions in STO beam via warp speed. They aren't limited to speed of light.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Starfleet has been using Quantum Slipstream Drive -- we have enhanced Quantum Slipstream Drive now on the Odyssey and Chimera! We have the Federation Transwarp Hub, we have Transwarp Drive! We have Subtranswarp Drive, we have Asynchronous Warp Fields!
We have the Callisto in the Delta Quadrant without any type of support. Did Starfleet just throw this ship into the Delta Quadrant without any support at all?! How did it even get there so quickly if it only has three years left in its mission!?
Quantum Slipstream drive, Subtranswarp Drive and Asynchronous Warp Fields, Transwarp Drive, Federation Transwarp Hub, etc. etc.
Solutions we've already had for a while.
But Dstahl thinks we're playing the Oregon Trail in the Delta Quadrant when we already have an interstate highway system in place. And this dev blog more or less highlights that there is no real transportation issue that Cryptic needs to address.
We aren't going to die of space dysentery, Dan. Stop making up fake problems.
I'm pretty sure the "interstate highway" is NOT built in the Delta Quadrant (or it was built, by the Borg, but then Voyager destroyed it on the way home). The SCE is still building their transwarp highway through Romulan space. Now, I'm pretty sure that one of the discoveries they'll find in or around that sphere is some sort of transwarp hub to get back to the alpha/beta quadrants.
yeah sure transmissions, but to observe something? You know to be able to determine what it is made off?
In Trek ship sensors detect and analyze things from light year away. For example, they always know ships are coming in from light years and know what species the ships are. It's not that hand-wavy to assume they can do it with huge sensor arrays, IMO.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
It seems to me that there are any number of ways to transport to and from the Delta Quadrant in the STO Universe. I mean, how does it make sense that you can instantly transwarp from anywhere to your Fleet Starbase or ESD but nowhere else? As problems go, this one seems to me more about writing a credible scenario than having to build some kind of in-game structure to support it.
I'm pretty sure the "interstate highway" is NOT built in the Delta Quadrant (or it was built, by the Borg, but then Voyager destroyed it on the way home). The SCE is still building their transwarp highway through Romulan space. Now, I'm pretty sure that one of the discoveries they'll find in or around that sphere is some sort of transwarp hub to get back to the alpha/beta quadrants.
The "interstate highway" was a metaphor for "advanced methods of travel". Just as the "Oregon Trail" comment was a metaphor for "Voyager-era methods of travel". Since we no longer have to buy oxen and use a covered wagon to travel from Philadelphia to California in 2013.
I assume we're going to get there and back via an Iconian Gate.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
C60/C sub 60/Carbon 60 means something entirely different from Carbon-60.
Just like O2 is fundamentally different from saying Oxygen-2
But hey, if we're quoting the internet now...
An isotope and/or nuclide is specified by the name of the particular element (this indicates the atomic number implicitly) followed by a hyphen and the mass number (e.g. helium-3, helium-4, carbon-12, carbon-14, uranium-235 and uranium-239).[1] When a chemical symbol is used, e.g., "C" for carbon, standard notation (now known as "AZE notation" because A is the mass number, Z the atomic number, and E for element) is to indicate the number of nucleons with a superscript at the upper left of the chemical symbol and to indicate the atomic number with a subscript at the lower left.[2] Since the atomic number is implied by the element symbol, it is common to state only the mass number in the superscript and leave out the atomic number subscript (e.g. 3He, 4He, 12C, 14C, 235U, and 239U, respectively). The letter m is sometimes appended after the mass number to indicate a nuclear isomer, a metastable or energetically-excited nuclear state (rather than the lowest-energy ground state), for example 180m
73Ta (tantalum-180m).
In Trek ship sensors detect and analyze things from light year away. For example, they always know ships are coming in from light years and know what species the ships are. It's not that hand-wavy to assume they can do it with huge sensor arrays, IMO.
for what i know, they do identify ships by their warp signature which clearly interferes with subspace, but detailed analasys about elements used in the object allways needed proximity or a pobe.
i mean it is "made up" sci fi, and so i guess everything is possible, but that is a long stretch to determine materials of an object over that kind of distance.
either the object emits particles or radiation at FTL speeds, or midas and the romulan array use some sort of scanning beam that can travel over this distances 2 times and still retain enough intensity give this reading.
this array must be one hell of a powerplant if it has a scanning potential that far and taht detailed.
and i mean, a poweroutput that would make the deathstar look cheap.
So I notice everyone on about the Carbon-60 B.S. but did NO-one actually read the portion before that?????
BORONITE!!! The ore that the Borg used to synthesize OMEGA!!!!!!!!
Could this be a precursor to Finally bringing the Omega molecule and its lore to the STO Universe?
The two are actually related. Carbon shenanigans came from the same Voyager EP where boronite was referenced. Omega is a reasonable inference in that context.
The Name-Number notation references an isotope, not a molecular formula.
Indeed, glad others are noticing this. I know that being a scientist just confuses me, but seeing the wrong notation for buckyballs (C60; can't see how to do a subscript here) blew my brain over just how ridiculously short-lived a Carbon-60 isotope would be...
I believe stirling191 covered the correct notation thoroughly, but I would further suggest you search for "carbon-13" and see that it is indeed the notation for isotopes, not for molecular structure.
i'm no expert, but if this object is 30000 lightyears away, doesn't that mean that the array is giving starfleet data about it from 30000 years ago??
I don't rightly remember, but I believe the MIDAS Array is similar to a subspace telescope. Since subspace is a separate dimension, it means the Array can transmit and receive in a fraction of the time sub-light comms could.
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Though Voyager was 70,000 lightyears from Federation space and its voyage would be 70 years, that's a thousand light-years a year... if the Callisto is 30,000 light years away and only has three years left on their mission, how did they get to the Delta Quad and how are they getting back?
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
The Name-Number notation references an isotope, not a molecular formula.
And stop encouraging fake problems, Brandon. :P
I got 99 problems, but a fake ain't one :P
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
seems Transwarp is a standard issue already.
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Starfleet has been using Quantum Slipstream Drive -- we have enhanced Quantum Slipstream Drive now on the Odyssey and Chimera! We have the Federation Transwarp Hub, we have Transwarp Drive! We have Subtranswarp Drive, we have Asynchronous Warp Fields!
We have the Callisto in the Delta Quadrant without any type of support. Did Starfleet just throw this ship into the Delta Quadrant without any support at all?! How did it even get there so quickly if it only has three years left in its mission!?
I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!
Go search for "carbon 60" and see you're wrong.
Good point. I referenced that in my above comment.
yeah sure transmissions, but to observe something? You know to be able to determine what it is made off?
I'm pretty sure the "interstate highway" is NOT built in the Delta Quadrant (or it was built, by the Borg, but then Voyager destroyed it on the way home). The SCE is still building their transwarp highway through Romulan space. Now, I'm pretty sure that one of the discoveries they'll find in or around that sphere is some sort of transwarp hub to get back to the alpha/beta quadrants.
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The "interstate highway" was a metaphor for "advanced methods of travel". Just as the "Oregon Trail" comment was a metaphor for "Voyager-era methods of travel". Since we no longer have to buy oxen and use a covered wagon to travel from Philadelphia to California in 2013.
C60/C sub 60/Carbon 60 means something entirely different from Carbon-60.
Just like O2 is fundamentally different from saying Oxygen-2
But hey, if we're quoting the internet now...
Yes, the Sphere has probably been there in excess of 30000 years, and observable.
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BORONITE!!! The ore that the Borg used to synthesize OMEGA!!!!!!!!
Could this be a precursor to Finally bringing the Omega molecule and its lore to the STO Universe?
Maybe even an Omega Lock Box :P
(btw. PWE I get 1% of all sales from any possible Omega LB- payable in Zen , you are welcome for the idea)
for what i know, they do identify ships by their warp signature which clearly interferes with subspace, but detailed analasys about elements used in the object allways needed proximity or a pobe.
i mean it is "made up" sci fi, and so i guess everything is possible, but that is a long stretch to determine materials of an object over that kind of distance.
either the object emits particles or radiation at FTL speeds, or midas and the romulan array use some sort of scanning beam that can travel over this distances 2 times and still retain enough intensity give this reading.
this array must be one hell of a powerplant if it has a scanning potential that far and taht detailed.
and i mean, a poweroutput that would make the deathstar look cheap.
The two are actually related. Carbon shenanigans came from the same Voyager EP where boronite was referenced. Omega is a reasonable inference in that context.
Indeed, glad others are noticing this. I know that being a scientist just confuses me, but seeing the wrong notation for buckyballs (C60; can't see how to do a subscript here) blew my brain over just how ridiculously short-lived a Carbon-60 isotope would be...
I believe stirling191 covered the correct notation thoroughly, but I would further suggest you search for "carbon-13" and see that it is indeed the notation for isotopes, not for molecular structure.
I don't rightly remember, but I believe the MIDAS Array is similar to a subspace telescope. Since subspace is a separate dimension, it means the Array can transmit and receive in a fraction of the time sub-light comms could.
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