I'm not voting in that pool. There's nothing that feels particularily relevant to me in there.
Why? Because the STO metaplot doesn't justify going in the Delta Quadrant at this point in time. It makes no sense. We have other troubles that ought to have far more priority... such as the Iconian plot you've been stringing us along for the last 3 years, and given us very little resolution or progress with.
Get to it already! Us that joined the game and stuck around were interested long ago, but if you make us wait to long we're likely to just stop giving a damn because we were baited by the promise of progression with that story for so long.
Oh god not Voyager...I love how a lot of people complain about JJ Trek not being Trek, but it was Voyager who started the Action frenzy alien of the week pew pew that became action Trek.
I would love to see Voyager content in STO, but this breaks the canon, like Q mentioned: "Humans aren't supposed to Delta Quadrant for the next 200 years."
From Death Wish.
That means, human are in the DQ by late-25th or early-26th century, give or take.
How does it break canon when Voyager already ended up in the Delta Quadrant making Q's statement null.
I would love to see Voyager content in STO, but this breaks the canon, like Q mentioned: "Humans aren't supposed to Delta Quadrant for the next 200 years."
From Death Wish.
That means, human are in the DQ by late-25th or early-26th century, give or take.
Q remarks in the episode that Humans shouldn't be in this area of space for another one hundred years, that would mean that Starfleet would reach the general area of Quinn's prison around 2472. However since "Humans" clearly were around that region of space in 2372 (both Voyager and the Equinox) and he didn't know about it, perhaps the future isn't quite so easy, even for a Q, to predict.
With Slipstream Drive and Transwarp, getting back to the Delta Quadrant isn't a problem. They already did that in the novels. Voyager is part of an expeditionary force exploring former Borg space. And they got there by slipstream.
As for Species, most of them are forgettable. I never want to see another Kazon or Talaxian again. The Vidiians have lost their one interesting quirk thanks to the phage having been cured. Now they're just another bland race from a bland show.
The Hierarchy was a stupid idea. Having to get permission from higher up for every friggin maneuver? That's a huge disadvantage in combat because it would make your reaction time incredibly slow.
I find none of the proposed races interesting, tbh.
What happened to the Caretaker? He died in the Pilot.
What happened to the Hirogen com network? It was destroyed a few episodes after Voyager found it.
Krenim ships? Sure, why not. Although we've already covered temporal mechanics with lockboxes.
Borg ships? Oh Hell no! The new superfat Warbirds are bad enough. I don't want to have to bump my way through a dozen Borg Cubes on my way out of Quo'Nos. That would take about half an hour.
I also can't see how you could repurpose something like a Borg ship for use by a group of individuals using a hierarchical command structure. They're not built for that at all!
Oh god not Voyager...I love how a lot of people complain about JJ Trek not being Trek, but it was Voyager who started the Action frenzy alien of the week pew pew that became action Trek.
-_- Everyone always has to bash one series or another don't we?
Enterprise: "Oh they made a show that takes place before TOS those TRIBBLE and it has a theme song with lyrics in it how horrid lets gripe about it for the next 10 years!"
Voyager: "Oh it has new species and more action, thats wrong even though it takes place in a place where the Federation has no power and the inhabitants are less the friendly they need less pew pew."
Deep Space Nine: "Too much Comedy and cheesyness. And on a space station? No no no."
Star Trek Reboot: "OH THE LENS FLARE! its too shiny and cinematic! And how dare they change the story even the tiniest even though it takes place in an alternate timeline"
....Ugh *sighs* You know I understand everyone has a right to their own opinion and may not like certain parts of trek as Trekkies are more picky and can be more bitchy then any other Sci-Fi group in the universe, but I really get tired of all the bashing on something just because they changed things up. Yes I like all trek, but I'm smart enough to know that each series, movie and game is Trek in its own way, it may have more action, more lens flare or music that isn't opera (I hate all the opening songs except the Enterprise one), but They all derive from the same place. The same dream. Because since the dawn of man we have explored the world around us, then one day when the mysteries of the world were solved Man looked to the stars and became fixated on a new place to explore, a place with an infinite number of planets to explore, lifeforms to discover and interact with, and Endless Adventures to have. Thats what Star Trek is to me, Discovery and Adventure, and adventures have fear and conflict in them, things that will stand in the way of Discovery you will have to face. My dream is the same as Johnathon Archer's was, to be the first Captain of the First Starship. Because here our world is harsh to those who dream, people want you to only be certain things. I'm no genius, I can write sure, but I'm no physicist, or scientist or mathematician, I'm horrible at math, but out there I can be anything, out there is Freedom, real freedom. I want to go out and explore the Universe some day. That is my dream. That is the dream of all Trekkies no matter what part of Trek they like best. That is the Dream of Starfleet Captains and Officers. And thats all I have to say.
Kazon are pretty much just another generic enemy. Vidiians I was in favor of until it was pointed out that the Phage was cured. I don't even recognize the last three names on the list. Are the Malon the trash haulers in spacesuits?
Krenim have a lot of potential, though. The ending of Year of Hell doesn't make it clear whether the ship technology will never come to be, is simply delayed, or what. Perhaps Annorax's ship still comes to exist by 2409, just a few years later and/or in a different way. Lots of possibilities with such a complicated story with an open ending.
Also: Please, please, please start working now for special guest voiceover by Kurtwood Smith!
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Normally I'd say that I'd enjoy seeing Starfleet try to justify to the Devore the actions of Voyager's crew while inside their sovereign territory; from the flagrant violation of the Prime Directive, to the god awful First Contact frak up that would no doubt plague any future dealings between them. However these days we'd just shoot them in the face and steal their stuff. Result.
Why not add more than just one new species besides the Voth? Maybe at least three new species with each frigates, cruisers and battleships at least? That would be cute. The Baneth are also an interesting species, or the Kobali, the Brunali etc. So many species worth integrating. Maybe with an enhanced character creator, it would be even better for fundry authors to include species like the Baneth. ^^
Also, I'd like to know if the eventual and badly needed upgrade to Level 60 is coming in Season 8 (as promised about a year ago). Or is it now gunna be Season 9 or 10?
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At first, I had a thought about smashing one of us Fed captains into another section of the Delta Quadrant, weaken the Slipstream Drive through that act, and follow how things work out with that captain. Make a followable story for one lucky captain, and give the Devs someone to pick on for fun.
In retrospect, it sounds cheesy now. I feel like there can be some potential there, though. How would a different ship fare? An Oddysey, A Galaxy X, or a commandeered Mirror Adv. Escort, for instance?
Just a thought.
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Sad to see the Malon so far down. They bear so much social-critisism potential. Would be awesome to see STO deliver some bold jabs to society Star Trek style.
One of the big problems with doing the Delta quadrant is that we don't actually see one long long journey from the Caretaker array back to earth. Several times Voyager makes major "jumps" through space or encounters barriers that would act as effectively limiting factors for who we would encounter in a potential voyager storyline points.
You bascially have from the start of Voyager up to Fair Trade (due to the vast region of empty space known as the Nekrit Expanse) or possibly Scorpion (due to borg space) (So Seasons one two and three)
After this voyager gets flung through space in the Gift and continue with normal flight until Hope and Fear they traveled briefly in slipstream, I can't remember how far or in what direction, but I am going to say it is a dividing point. So basically season four is one block.
Because at the beginning of season five in Night they find a vortex that allows them to jump ahead again, this time to the other side of a void which would act as a barrier if represented in gameplay.
Of course, you only get six episodes out of season five before they jump again in one of my favorites, Timeless, they use a slipstream drive to cover 10 years worth of travel time (how much this is in current travel time is unknown, so it may not really be a barrier)
Unfortunately by the 15th episodes of the season they jump another 20k lightyears, so we have another barrier.
The next jump is in Dragon's Teeth, but this time it is via a subspace corridor, which is implied to run pretty much the length of their course through the Delta quadrant, so not necessarily being a barrier could potentially be a way of linking various parts of the Voyager journey, normally spread out over great distance, together. (this was of course, in season six, episode 7)
And I think that's all of them. So it looks like you have:
Seasons one two and Three as one group
Seasons Four as one group
Season five episode one through six as another group
Season five episode seven through fifteen as another group
Season five episode fifteen through season six episode seven as another group
Then the rest of the episodes after that.
So, pick one of those blocks and choose which one has the best enemies, aliens, encounters, and allies and somehow get the players there.
I personally vote for season one through three. This would give us the Kazon (blech) the Vidiians (One of the greatest star trek villains, unfortunately supposedly cured), the Planet Sikaris (Potentially the way we get to the Delta Quadrant), Whoever brought the 37s to the Delta Quadrant (maybe Iconians or their servants?), The Swarm, The Praylor (one of my personal favorites), and various other minor races. It would also be nice if the story wasn't all kill kill kill. What if there was a fledging alliance similar to the early federation and the players goal in coming to the Delta quadrant was to prevent it from falling to pieces at the hands of some Iconian plot.
Also, wasn't the Dyson Sphere we were going to visit supposed to be located in the Delta Quadrant? If this is the case why not simply place the sphere wherever, then when the players are given the option to explore the gamma quadrant, they start at the Dyson sphere.
If you ever decided to introduce a new faction, it could then be this fledgling alliance in the Delta quadrant, and the main storyline could focus around trying to hold it together in the face of numerous threats.
Sad to see the Malon so far down. They bear so much social-critisism potential. Would be awesome to see STO deliver some bold jabs to society Star Trek style.
The Malon are probably way down there because people know that they are pretty uninteresting species. I mean, everyone that we've seen in the four episodes they've been featured on have been Garbage Haulers.
I think more people should be surprised with where the Kazon landed. The Krenim were only a few episodes as well, but they spent a lot more time fleshing them out.
I'm also not surprised by where the Viidians showed up since we never got a clear ending as to what happened to them. It would be a good excuse for them to continue the Klingon storyline about using their DNA to correct the problems.
Eh ... Krenim seem to win this poll. People here are obviously very into temporal shenanigans and don't really care for reasons why the Krenim would suddenly oppose alpha quadrant factions (yes, we are basically choosing our next target to mass murder here ). After the timeline got restored they seemed actually very peaceful in comparison. Chronitonweapons and a potential giant doomship are IMO not enough to make an interesting enemy.
Vidiians on the other hand (if we assume the think tank lied and the phage was never cured) actually have a reason to go full onslaught on every faction they encounter.
The Krenim of course. With that kickass temporal incursion weapon ship as the boss of some PvE mission. And yes, I know it was erased from history, but I'm invoking the First Law of Resurrection on it ("The will of a creator to bring a dead character back to life trumps everything else").
There is no need to overthink how to get to the delta quadrant or to the various distant areas Voyager visited. The game already features an area only accessible by transwarp gate.
All that I ask, beyond fixing the existing bugs and other things that just don't fit (like Photonic officers that get bruised ribs when played on elite) is that if we go into the Delta Quadrant the existing Vice Admiral along with currently existing species and existing ships of our best Federation ships, such as the latest Operations Cruiser, are more then up to the challenge.
Lets face it. I'm human and I like being human. My ship is a known and at some point we all approach everything else around us with certain base knowns, not variables we cannot trust. After three years of STO it would be nice to not be nerfed and even improve without first being cut down. You can't enjoy a story line if you're ship and crew are not up to the challenge. Respawn this and respawn that dramatically take away from the story. Learning ones ship, crew, skills, and so on, is what should take presidence. Then take on the adventure with at least some knowns for a foundation to build upon as well as the learned capability to do so.
Keeping in mind that much of Star Trek throughout the years has been based upon realistic scientific theory, some of which is reality today, anything added to STO should incorporate that same realm and method. It's the part that lets us not only see the future, but become a part of it. Some of the latest offerings such as those available in the Dilithium mine bases have good combined features, but make no sense for the actual capabilities. This tends to make the science look more like magic from a fairytale. We need to get back to the science.
The Malon are probably way down there because people know that they are pretty uninteresting species. I mean, everyone that we've seen in the four episodes they've been featured on have been Garbage Haulers.
I think more people should be surprised with where the Kazon landed. The Krenim were only a few episodes as well, but they spent a lot more time fleshing them out.
I'm also not surprised by where the Viidians showed up since we never got a clear ending as to what happened to them. It would be a good excuse for them to continue the Klingon storyline about using their DNA to correct the problems.
Thats probably why they have more votes which in turn makes me a bit sad because of the cool story potential Malon could have and my personal lack of interest in "we are meany warriahs Kazon"; "Hey moar time travel Krenim" or the others. Its not that I questioned the results of the voting or required explanation of why it is as its is.
But since my personal favourite of voy species, the Voth, is already set in stone it all does not bother me much anyway.
I originally voted for Voyager because I love the intrepid ship design, not because I thought they were going to add the bloody delta quadrant to the game. As much s I hated the fraking religious emissary BS of DS9 I would have much rather they opened up the Gamma quadrant and added some truly unique species and ships to the mix.
Atleast going to the Gamma quadrant would have made sense looking for more resources and allies to fight against the iconians, but if you're going to add in a section of the delta quadrant you might as well say frak all to the current setup end the war, have the feds, roms, kdf all allies and and the undine and iconians as a playable alliance and turn this into alpha/beta against delta game.
And for that matter who the frak cares about the Voth, one of the biggest pieces of Voyager trash writing and that's what you focus on for an entire season???
With the course you've been taking this game ever since the fleetbase release (minus lor) this game is becoming more and more a filler until the better space mmos release.
Thats probably why they have more votes which in turn makes me a bit sad because of the cool story potential Malon could have and my personal lack of interest in "we are meany warriahs Kazon"; "Hey moar time travel Krenim" or the others. Its not that I questioned the results of the voting or required explanation of why it is as its is.
But since my personal favourite of voy species, the Voth, is already set in stone it all does not bother me much anyway.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the "Think Tank" cured the viidians so they're pretty much irrelevant now anyways.
Why not utilize transwarp? A small fleet of Engineers could have traveled there at slipstream and built a hub near the Talaxian colony where Nelix lives. He could be the main contact for missions in the Delta Quadrant. The fleet could have members from each faction. All factions could agree to a treaty stating that no territory shall be claimed in the Delta Quadrant. Factions could only ally themselves with native species. The Talaxian Colony could be its own neutral zone.
I'd MUCH rather see the Vaadwaur race from Voyager's "Dragon's Teeth" episode instead of the Devore Imperium.
The Vaadwaur had outdated ships because they were stuck in stasis for 900 years, but they are warriors from what was formerly a great empire with a grudge against the Federation (thanks to Voyager).
Plus the Vaadwaur's subspace tunnels could be turned into a cool enemy element in the game ... instead of a cloaking ship you have a ship that opens a subspace tunnel, enters it, vanishes, then the tunnel opens up behind you and the Vaadwaur ship pops out and starts firing.
Yes, similar to the teleport/jump effect we saw from the Elachi, but it could be cool.
Anyway ... I have serious doubts the devs are going to take any suggestions from this poll or the related posts in this thread.
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This runs the risk of being to similar to cluster exploration but how about using the Barzan wormhole to explore the Delta Quadrant.
The catch is the delta terminus jumps aroudn erraticly...
A player doesn't know where he ends up when he flies through and gets a random area to explore and complete a number of missions in but is on a timer to do that,.
If he can't complete all objectives before the timer is up, a cutscene plays that aborts all missions in progress and returns the player to the alpha quadrant so he doesn't miss the wormhole jumping away and leave him stranded.
I voted kazon because they hate the feds with so much passion it would be great to see hundreds of fed character's descending on there space. The rest seem irrelevant, a load of space bin men, a bunch of telepathic haters (I didnt say racists), the vidians er didnt we cure them, proberly been assimilated by the borg now any way and the krenim, what a great idea if the weapon-ship hadn't been destroyed by*Captain Janeway*and Voyager, restoring the Krenim to a moderate power in dispute with other races around them. Im that bored with current sectors just put me in my oddy and hurle me in to a random area of the quadrant like voyager. That sounds fun. Oh and won't the voth be on the fed side? Thought they are an advanced religious group who for the fed sake I hope are not going to be an aggressive encounter. With the ability to beam whole ships with there shields raised and dissable ship wide systems, I mean, they could scan me from 90 light years away that takes the TRIBBLE when i have to be within 10km to shoot ffs!. the fed and kdf have not come that far yet despite being able to pop a cube on my own!.
1. Take Adm. Janeway's subspace corridor from the series finale to the corner of the Delta quadrant map that is closest to the Alpha quadrant.
2. Take the Barzan Wormhole to a random spot in the Delta Quadrant
Servers:
This would be a great opportunity to start a new game server. Players who transfer a character to the Delta Quadrant have to stay there some amount of time, say, at least 1 or 24 hours, before they can return to the Alpha Quadrant. You could do data sync once every twenty four hours between the two server clusters.
Territorial Control:
This is a good map to experiment w/ territorial control. Personnally, I'm not sure of this concept yet, but I hear it's popular around the Net.
1. Fed v. KDF
2. Fleet v. Fleet
3. Alpha Quadrant forces v. Delta Quadrant forces
Vendors:
As the Feds are far from home, there should not be a lot of Fed technology available from vendors in the Delta Quadrant. Maybe only Vesta, Intrepid, and Rhode Island starships, and Delta Flyer and basic shuttlecraft only. Maybe the Delta Quadrant exchange only works w/ other Captain's Delta Quadrant characters, so you can't buy stuff from the Alpha Quadrant via the Exchange. Also, some Delta Quad vendors could refuse to sell to the Feds OCCASIONALLY, i.e a Kazon vendor saying "Not today Federation, I remember what Janeway did to my people. Come back when I've cooled off (at the pub)."
Navigation
The Delta Quadrant sector map could have some navigational hazards that you can only avoid by ACTIVELY steering AWAY from.
1. Malon Toxic Waste - affects shields and crew health
2. Phage infected ships - affects crew health
3. Devore checkpoints - bores STO user to death! (comedic interlude)
4. Krenim Temporal Adjustments - Random effects
Weapons Sets/Ship Sets
1. Hirogen Sets (I have a Trill captain just dying to fight the Hirogen, her name's Jadzia, she died & she got better.)
2. Krenim Imperial Temporal Warships & Weapons Sets (Oh Zod, YES! We're gonna put our boot up your axx!)
Enemies
1. Krenim Imperium
2. Voth
3. Vaadwaur = Delta Quadrant version of the Cardassians (Who oppresses better?)
4. Kazon = Delta Quadrant version of the Orions (though slightly incompetent)
5. Hirogen (Turn it UP! Bring it ON! You wanna hunt? Let's HUNT!)
5a. Hirogen Mission where KDF saves Feds or vice versa, KDF gets upset at who they had to rescue (get rescued by), and a PvP session breaks out!
Mini games
1. The Think Tank sends you messages/resources, but you have to solve a puzzle to decode the message/acquire the resource.
1a. A Jason Alexander voiceover would be cool, but possibly expensive.
Event
I am not a fan of the Phage, but someone mentioned a Vidiian/Phage Halloween event, and I would like to second that idea!
Comments
Why? Because the STO metaplot doesn't justify going in the Delta Quadrant at this point in time. It makes no sense. We have other troubles that ought to have far more priority... such as the Iconian plot you've been stringing us along for the last 3 years, and given us very little resolution or progress with.
Get to it already! Us that joined the game and stuck around were interested long ago, but if you make us wait to long we're likely to just stop giving a damn because we were baited by the promise of progression with that story for so long.
How does it break canon when Voyager already ended up in the Delta Quadrant making Q's statement null.
Q remarks in the episode that Humans shouldn't be in this area of space for another one hundred years, that would mean that Starfleet would reach the general area of Quinn's prison around 2472. However since "Humans" clearly were around that region of space in 2372 (both Voyager and the Equinox) and he didn't know about it, perhaps the future isn't quite so easy, even for a Q, to predict.
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As for Species, most of them are forgettable. I never want to see another Kazon or Talaxian again. The Vidiians have lost their one interesting quirk thanks to the phage having been cured. Now they're just another bland race from a bland show.
The Hierarchy was a stupid idea. Having to get permission from higher up for every friggin maneuver? That's a huge disadvantage in combat because it would make your reaction time incredibly slow.
I find none of the proposed races interesting, tbh.
What happened to the Caretaker? He died in the Pilot.
What happened to the Hirogen com network? It was destroyed a few episodes after Voyager found it.
Krenim ships? Sure, why not. Although we've already covered temporal mechanics with lockboxes.
Borg ships? Oh Hell no! The new superfat Warbirds are bad enough. I don't want to have to bump my way through a dozen Borg Cubes on my way out of Quo'Nos. That would take about half an hour.
I also can't see how you could repurpose something like a Borg ship for use by a group of individuals using a hierarchical command structure. They're not built for that at all!
Just reading some of the popular responses, I couldn't help but imagine Ambassador Lwaxana Troi meeting the ambassador from the Devore Imperium.
-_- Everyone always has to bash one series or another don't we?
Enterprise: "Oh they made a show that takes place before TOS those TRIBBLE and it has a theme song with lyrics in it how horrid lets gripe about it for the next 10 years!"
Voyager: "Oh it has new species and more action, thats wrong even though it takes place in a place where the Federation has no power and the inhabitants are less the friendly they need less pew pew."
Deep Space Nine: "Too much Comedy and cheesyness. And on a space station? No no no."
Star Trek Reboot: "OH THE LENS FLARE! its too shiny and cinematic! And how dare they change the story even the tiniest even though it takes place in an alternate timeline"
....Ugh *sighs* You know I understand everyone has a right to their own opinion and may not like certain parts of trek as Trekkies are more picky and can be more bitchy then any other Sci-Fi group in the universe, but I really get tired of all the bashing on something just because they changed things up. Yes I like all trek, but I'm smart enough to know that each series, movie and game is Trek in its own way, it may have more action, more lens flare or music that isn't opera (I hate all the opening songs except the Enterprise one), but They all derive from the same place. The same dream. Because since the dawn of man we have explored the world around us, then one day when the mysteries of the world were solved Man looked to the stars and became fixated on a new place to explore, a place with an infinite number of planets to explore, lifeforms to discover and interact with, and Endless Adventures to have. Thats what Star Trek is to me, Discovery and Adventure, and adventures have fear and conflict in them, things that will stand in the way of Discovery you will have to face. My dream is the same as Johnathon Archer's was, to be the first Captain of the First Starship. Because here our world is harsh to those who dream, people want you to only be certain things. I'm no genius, I can write sure, but I'm no physicist, or scientist or mathematician, I'm horrible at math, but out there I can be anything, out there is Freedom, real freedom. I want to go out and explore the Universe some day. That is my dream. That is the dream of all Trekkies no matter what part of Trek they like best. That is the Dream of Starfleet Captains and Officers. And thats all I have to say.
Krenim have a lot of potential, though. The ending of Year of Hell doesn't make it clear whether the ship technology will never come to be, is simply delayed, or what. Perhaps Annorax's ship still comes to exist by 2409, just a few years later and/or in a different way. Lots of possibilities with such a complicated story with an open ending.
Also: Please, please, please start working now for special guest voiceover by Kurtwood Smith!
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Also, I'd like to know if the eventual and badly needed upgrade to Level 60 is coming in Season 8 (as promised about a year ago). Or is it now gunna be Season 9 or 10?
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In retrospect, it sounds cheesy now. I feel like there can be some potential there, though. How would a different ship fare? An Oddysey, A Galaxy X, or a commandeered Mirror Adv. Escort, for instance?
Just a thought.
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You bascially have from the start of Voyager up to Fair Trade (due to the vast region of empty space known as the Nekrit Expanse) or possibly Scorpion (due to borg space) (So Seasons one two and three)
After this voyager gets flung through space in the Gift and continue with normal flight until Hope and Fear they traveled briefly in slipstream, I can't remember how far or in what direction, but I am going to say it is a dividing point. So basically season four is one block.
Because at the beginning of season five in Night they find a vortex that allows them to jump ahead again, this time to the other side of a void which would act as a barrier if represented in gameplay.
Of course, you only get six episodes out of season five before they jump again in one of my favorites, Timeless, they use a slipstream drive to cover 10 years worth of travel time (how much this is in current travel time is unknown, so it may not really be a barrier)
Unfortunately by the 15th episodes of the season they jump another 20k lightyears, so we have another barrier.
The next jump is in Dragon's Teeth, but this time it is via a subspace corridor, which is implied to run pretty much the length of their course through the Delta quadrant, so not necessarily being a barrier could potentially be a way of linking various parts of the Voyager journey, normally spread out over great distance, together. (this was of course, in season six, episode 7)
And I think that's all of them. So it looks like you have:
Seasons one two and Three as one group
Seasons Four as one group
Season five episode one through six as another group
Season five episode seven through fifteen as another group
Season five episode fifteen through season six episode seven as another group
Then the rest of the episodes after that.
So, pick one of those blocks and choose which one has the best enemies, aliens, encounters, and allies and somehow get the players there.
I personally vote for season one through three. This would give us the Kazon (blech) the Vidiians (One of the greatest star trek villains, unfortunately supposedly cured), the Planet Sikaris (Potentially the way we get to the Delta Quadrant), Whoever brought the 37s to the Delta Quadrant (maybe Iconians or their servants?), The Swarm, The Praylor (one of my personal favorites), and various other minor races. It would also be nice if the story wasn't all kill kill kill. What if there was a fledging alliance similar to the early federation and the players goal in coming to the Delta quadrant was to prevent it from falling to pieces at the hands of some Iconian plot.
Also, wasn't the Dyson Sphere we were going to visit supposed to be located in the Delta Quadrant? If this is the case why not simply place the sphere wherever, then when the players are given the option to explore the gamma quadrant, they start at the Dyson sphere.
If you ever decided to introduce a new faction, it could then be this fledgling alliance in the Delta quadrant, and the main storyline could focus around trying to hold it together in the face of numerous threats.
The Malon are probably way down there because people know that they are pretty uninteresting species. I mean, everyone that we've seen in the four episodes they've been featured on have been Garbage Haulers.
I think more people should be surprised with where the Kazon landed. The Krenim were only a few episodes as well, but they spent a lot more time fleshing them out.
I'm also not surprised by where the Viidians showed up since we never got a clear ending as to what happened to them. It would be a good excuse for them to continue the Klingon storyline about using their DNA to correct the problems.
Vidiians on the other hand (if we assume the think tank lied and the phage was never cured) actually have a reason to go full onslaught on every faction they encounter.
There is no need to overthink how to get to the delta quadrant or to the various distant areas Voyager visited. The game already features an area only accessible by transwarp gate.
Lets face it. I'm human and I like being human. My ship is a known and at some point we all approach everything else around us with certain base knowns, not variables we cannot trust. After three years of STO it would be nice to not be nerfed and even improve without first being cut down. You can't enjoy a story line if you're ship and crew are not up to the challenge. Respawn this and respawn that dramatically take away from the story. Learning ones ship, crew, skills, and so on, is what should take presidence. Then take on the adventure with at least some knowns for a foundation to build upon as well as the learned capability to do so.
Keeping in mind that much of Star Trek throughout the years has been based upon realistic scientific theory, some of which is reality today, anything added to STO should incorporate that same realm and method. It's the part that lets us not only see the future, but become a part of it. Some of the latest offerings such as those available in the Dilithium mine bases have good combined features, but make no sense for the actual capabilities. This tends to make the science look more like magic from a fairytale. We need to get back to the science.
Thats probably why they have more votes which in turn makes me a bit sad because of the cool story potential Malon could have and my personal lack of interest in "we are meany warriahs Kazon"; "Hey moar time travel Krenim" or the others. Its not that I questioned the results of the voting or required explanation of why it is as its is.
But since my personal favourite of voy species, the Voth, is already set in stone it all does not bother me much anyway.
Atleast going to the Gamma quadrant would have made sense looking for more resources and allies to fight against the iconians, but if you're going to add in a section of the delta quadrant you might as well say frak all to the current setup end the war, have the feds, roms, kdf all allies and and the undine and iconians as a playable alliance and turn this into alpha/beta against delta game.
And for that matter who the frak cares about the Voth, one of the biggest pieces of Voyager trash writing and that's what you focus on for an entire season???
With the course you've been taking this game ever since the fleetbase release (minus lor) this game is becoming more and more a filler until the better space mmos release.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the "Think Tank" cured the viidians so they're pretty much irrelevant now anyways.
The Vaadwaur had outdated ships because they were stuck in stasis for 900 years, but they are warriors from what was formerly a great empire with a grudge against the Federation (thanks to Voyager).
Plus the Vaadwaur's subspace tunnels could be turned into a cool enemy element in the game ... instead of a cloaking ship you have a ship that opens a subspace tunnel, enters it, vanishes, then the tunnel opens up behind you and the Vaadwaur ship pops out and starts firing.
Yes, similar to the teleport/jump effect we saw from the Elachi, but it could be cool.
Anyway ... I have serious doubts the devs are going to take any suggestions from this poll or the related posts in this thread.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
The catch is the delta terminus jumps aroudn erraticly...
A player doesn't know where he ends up when he flies through and gets a random area to explore and complete a number of missions in but is on a timer to do that,.
If he can't complete all objectives before the timer is up, a cutscene plays that aborts all missions in progress and returns the player to the alpha quadrant so he doesn't miss the wormhole jumping away and leave him stranded.
Kobayashi Crew.
Dave@dangerousdave1701
The guys stopping people are the Devore.
OK, here are my thoughts:
How to get to the Delta Quadrant:
1. Take Adm. Janeway's subspace corridor from the series finale to the corner of the Delta quadrant map that is closest to the Alpha quadrant.
2. Take the Barzan Wormhole to a random spot in the Delta Quadrant
Servers:
This would be a great opportunity to start a new game server. Players who transfer a character to the Delta Quadrant have to stay there some amount of time, say, at least 1 or 24 hours, before they can return to the Alpha Quadrant. You could do data sync once every twenty four hours between the two server clusters.
Territorial Control:
This is a good map to experiment w/ territorial control. Personnally, I'm not sure of this concept yet, but I hear it's popular around the Net.
1. Fed v. KDF
2. Fleet v. Fleet
3. Alpha Quadrant forces v. Delta Quadrant forces
Vendors:
As the Feds are far from home, there should not be a lot of Fed technology available from vendors in the Delta Quadrant. Maybe only Vesta, Intrepid, and Rhode Island starships, and Delta Flyer and basic shuttlecraft only. Maybe the Delta Quadrant exchange only works w/ other Captain's Delta Quadrant characters, so you can't buy stuff from the Alpha Quadrant via the Exchange. Also, some Delta Quad vendors could refuse to sell to the Feds OCCASIONALLY, i.e a Kazon vendor saying "Not today Federation, I remember what Janeway did to my people. Come back when I've cooled off (at the pub)."
Navigation
The Delta Quadrant sector map could have some navigational hazards that you can only avoid by ACTIVELY steering AWAY from.
1. Malon Toxic Waste - affects shields and crew health
2. Phage infected ships - affects crew health
3. Devore checkpoints - bores STO user to death! (comedic interlude)
4. Krenim Temporal Adjustments - Random effects
Weapons Sets/Ship Sets
1. Hirogen Sets (I have a Trill captain just dying to fight the Hirogen, her name's Jadzia, she died & she got better.)
2. Krenim Imperial Temporal Warships & Weapons Sets (Oh Zod, YES! We're gonna put our boot up your axx!)
Enemies
1. Krenim Imperium
2. Voth
3. Vaadwaur = Delta Quadrant version of the Cardassians (Who oppresses better?)
4. Kazon = Delta Quadrant version of the Orions (though slightly incompetent)
5. Hirogen (Turn it UP! Bring it ON! You wanna hunt? Let's HUNT!)
5a. Hirogen Mission where KDF saves Feds or vice versa, KDF gets upset at who they had to rescue (get rescued by), and a PvP session breaks out!
Mini games
1. The Think Tank sends you messages/resources, but you have to solve a puzzle to decode the message/acquire the resource.
1a. A Jason Alexander voiceover would be cool, but possibly expensive.
Event
I am not a fan of the Phage, but someone mentioned a Vidiian/Phage Halloween event, and I would like to second that idea!
Sincerely,
Adm. Gallagher
1st Armada of the UFP
STARFLEET!