To give nods to the classic era but again this is TNG era game. I expect to see TNG era ships in it. not TMP era ships known to be retired at this point. IF a TMP era game was made i'd join it to if it was good.
This game is not a TNG game, it is a post TNG game. The same reason you could ask for tier 5 TNG ships when they are older than the status quo of star fleet can be used by us older fans.
This game is not a TNG game, it is a post TNG game. The same reason you could ask for tier 5 TNG ships when they are older than the status quo of star fleet can be used by us older fans.
Maybe post TNG well then even more reason for less TMP era ships. While I don't mind some zen ships of TMP it has to be within reason. Heck by STO timeline Miranda and Excal should be on their way out. I like TMP era ships but most do not go in this game. if an MMO of TMP era Trek came out I'd join it if it was good
Maybe post TNG well then even more reason for less TMP era ships. While I don't mind some zen ships of TMP it has to be within reason. Heck by STO timeline Miranda and Excal should be on their way out. I like TMP era ships but most do not go in this game. if an MMO of TMP era Trek came out I'd join it if it was good
This is sad, you can admit the TNG ships have been replaced, but can't accept that people want and should get to play ships that are older.
This is sad, you can admit the TNG ships have been replaced, but can't accept that people want and should get to play ships that are older.
because I understand the era in which this game is being played. I went into STO not expecting a connie of any type. And again should anotehr MMO come out that is TMP I join if it was good. or heck make a server that is all TMP era with everything and i wouldn't mind.
Then they shouldn't be playing STO, STO is TNG era game DEAL WITH IT.
No it's not. It's way beyond the TNG era. It's 25th Century. Things like the Odyssey, the Undine War, the entire story of Legacy of Romulus, all of the content should really just smack you over the head with how non-TNG era the game is.
The Enterprise is captained by an Andorian. It's ship classification is a brand new ship. The Undine infiltrated various planetary governments causing a new war to break out between the Federation and the Klingons. The Romulans are in pieces, trying to put some semblance of a home together. People fly Breen and Dominion and Ferengi ships. People fly party ships from Risa now. People fly T'Varos, D'Kyrs, Kumaris. People fly Olympic class Vessels and Galaxy-X Dreadnoughts from alternate timelines. People fly timeships from the 29th Century.
This game is so far beyond TNG era. The person that needs to deal with it, is more than likely you. You keep clinging to some structure you think this game has, which is clearly doesn't.
Which is why one might expect to see plenty of Constitutions, but on museum duty, or transport duty, or serving the merchant marine, or a planetary defense force, or in the hands of a wealthy collector/restorer, or a privateer (Did I say privateer? Sorry, I meant private contractor. My bad.), or environmental activists, or shipping relief supplies on behalf of planetary governments, or other federation agencies, or NGOs, but, no longer front line Starfleet duty unless the crew has a certain reputation and are willing to fix her up on their own time.
No it's not. It's way beyond the TNG era. It's 25th Century. Things like the Odyssey, the Undine War, the entire story of Legacy of Romulus, all of the content should really just smack you over the head with how non-TNG era the game is.
The Enterprise is captained by an Andorian. It's ship classification is a brand new ship. The Undine infiltrated various planetary governments causing a new war to break out between the Federation and the Klingons. The Romulans are in pieces, trying to put some semblance of a home together. People fly Breen and Dominion and Ferengi ships. People fly party ships from Risa now. People fly T'Varos, D'Kyrs, Kumaris. People fly Olympic class Vessels and Galaxy-X Dreadnoughts from alternate timelines. People fly timeships from the 29th Century.
This game is so far beyond TNG era. The person that needs to deal with it, is more than likely you. You keep clinging to some structure you think this game has, which is clearly doesn't.
25th is still under TNG era if you forgot Admiral Riker, Gul madred, Worf. also the era show a substancal upgrade in tech. i don't see a substanal change from TNG to STO like there is from TMP to TNG. Admittedly this is my opinion but there are facts to support it. If you feel STO is a new era that is your opinion and we can have a friendly debate on it.
all I can say, is if I can fly a Jem Hadar Bug, a tholian Carrier, a Galor, or a D'kora, there is no reason I should not be able to fly any of the ships stated. I'd rather see Constitution Variants littering ESD then a bunch of jem bugs, Romulans, and Galors.
at this point, there is no reason to limit these vessels as some have stated, and there is no reason not to have them. I'd support them never being in the game, when all bug owners, Galor flyers, and such, willing give their ships up because they are not suppose to have them. Or Limit the bug to mark 8 gear because its Cannon fodder canon wise. Canon has no place here at this point.
if there is a big enough market for a ship, I see no reason not to let them have it.
Not really. This game is so far beyond that. This game is not TNG era. It's its own thing. How can you not see that?
if you forgot Admiral Riker
Admiral Riker doesn't exist in the prime universe timeline. Nor does he exist in STO.
There is a Riker in STO. It's the son of Thomas Riker. That should be yet another hint that this game is not a TNG era game. It's some future era that Cryptic itself is writing and making up.
i don't see a substanal change from TNG to STO like there is from TMP to TNG.
The uniforms are all haphazard.
People are flying Breen ships. And Risa Corvettes. And Odysseys.
If you're not seeing substantial changes, then you're really just not opening your own eyes. You should go and browse the STO Wiki and read all the lore this game has. It's so far beyond the TNG era.
Not really. This game is so far beyond that. This game is not TNG era. It's its own thing. How can you not see that?
Admiral Riker doesn't exist in the prime universe timeline. Nor does he exist in STO.
There is a Riker in STO. It's the son of Thomas Riker. That should be yet another hint that this game is not a TNG era game. It's some future era that Cryptic itself is writing and making up.
The uniforms are all haphazard.
People are flying Breen ships. And Risa Corvettes. And Odysseys.
If you're not seeing substantial changes, then you're really just not opening your own eyes. You should go and browse the STO Wiki and read all the lore this game has. It's so far beyond the TNG era.
Joshua mentions his uncle ADMIRAL RIKER, and you forgot Worf and other characters STILL TNG ERA
No it's not. It's way beyond the TNG era. It's 25th Century. Things like the Odyssey, the Undine War, the entire story of Legacy of Romulus, all of the content should really just smack you over the head with how non-TNG era the game is.
The Enterprise is captained by an Andorian. It's ship classification is a brand new ship. The Undine infiltrated various planetary governments causing a new war to break out between the Federation and the Klingons. The Romulans are in pieces, trying to put some semblance of a home together. People fly Breen and Dominion and Ferengi ships. People fly party ships from Risa now. People fly T'Varos, D'Kyrs, Kumaris. People fly Olympic class Vessels and Galaxy-X Dreadnoughts from alternate timelines. People fly timeships from the 29th Century.
This game is so far beyond TNG era. The person that needs to deal with it, is more than likely you. You keep clinging to some structure you think this game has, which is clearly doesn't.
then who is that Klingon on Qo'Nos who is named Worf... an Imposter?
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D'kyr class science vessel, T'varo light warbird, B'rel bird of prey and K't'inga battle cruiser take your point into crossfire. It's completely atomized.:eek:
Not mentioning that none of your points applies to the Excalibur.
This ^^^
The argument against the T5 connie became absurd quite some time ago.
I remember Geko was it ?, in an Interview justifying the use of the even older, canonically speaking T'varo.
He thought that the design was cool, and that it was a much more modern design than the similar TOS warbird it was based off of, therefore it could/should be included.
I found his argument to include it, hysterical and an example of extreme hypocrisy, as this is the VERY SAME argument that's been made countless times for the inclusion of a T5 version of the Excalibur and the Exeter models.
How can I back up my point? Most damning, Just sit outside Earth space dock now a days. With the wonderful assortment of exotic, non canon ships stationed there.
Having a few T5 Excaliburs or Exeters amongst the Scimitars, warbirds, Tal Shiar Borg adapted ships, Dominion, Cardassian, Ferengi, Tholian, Breen, Risan Corvettes AND lets not forget the EQUALLY ABSURD and out of place, timeships ......
There is NO ONE who can argue (with a straight face), that a few T5 constitution's more modern variants sprinkled in this mix would seriously break ANYONE's immersion more than it's been stomped all over at this point.
And it's only going to get worse with each new lock box event.
It's time to recognize the argument against the T5 connie variants for what it is, (Just damned silly at this point really) and go and give players WHAT THEY WANT.
The interests FOR they're inclusion has only strengthened with time, what with the revival of Trek thanks to the Abrams movies AND the direction the game is going for reasons pointed out earlier.
More new players after seeing the movies, are looking for these T5 connie variants, The movies have rekindled interest in them and that design, BECAUSE IT'S MORE MODERN TREK NOW.
So the numbers of people looking for them, who want them included in game, are GROWING due to the movies.
We've included the Tal Shiar adapted ships, with their design nod to the Narada.....
Put the T5 connie newer variants in the fleet stores already please.
MAKE THE GAME SOME MORE EASY MONEY with very little effort. The proverbial win, win situation if I saw it.
Here's a better question: Let's say we *DO* make a Exeter Retro/Fleet Exeter.
What would you do with it that is A: Unique and distinctive from other existing cruisers, and B: Doesn't simply flat-out outclass them. Obviously, they could just release a flat out inferior ship, whereupon you could then all shut up about it. After all, there's plenty of Fleet Duds no one flies.
Joshua mentions his uncle ADMIRAL RIKER, and you forgot Worf and other characters STILL TNG ERA
I didn't forget Worf at all. But you seem to think that Admiral Riker is in this STO continuity when he isn't. That's a character from an alternate timeline.
The game already has old antique ships at T5. That ship has sailed. The game already doesn't make sense in that way. Which means to continue to argue against it is really a very subjective thing at this point. You're fine with people flying a D'Kyr which is far older than a Constitution, at T5. But not fine with someone flying a Miranda? That makes just as little sense. At this point, you're simply arguing against some people who want their favorite ship, while you get to fly your favorite ship instead. Which you know, is subjective and fuel for argument.
If you're fine with the game as-is, with Enterprise era ships from the Klingons, Vulcans and Romulans, as well as a souped up modern version of the ENT era Andorian ship all being top tier capable, then arguing against a Constitution, an NX or a Miranda is just trolling fans of those ships.
People already do this. Using the queue system.
Wow... Ok, please take your boot off my face.
All currently existing STO ship/tier contradictions (that has introduced such angst) set aside, I'd like to see the more classes of TOS ships to be available for Foundry and the players.
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The argument against the T5 connie became absurd quite some time ago.
I remember Geko was it ?, in an Interview justifying the use of the even older, canonically speaking T'varo.
He thought that the design was cool, and that it was a much more modern design than the similar TOS warbird it was based off of, therefore it could/should be included.
I found his argument to include it, hysterical and an example of extreme hypocrisy, as this is the VERY SAME argument that's been made countless times for the inclusion of a T5 version of the Excalibur and the Exeter models.
How can I back up my point? Most damning, Just sit outside Earth space dock now a days. With the wonderful assortment of exotic, non canon ships stationed there.
Having a few T5 Excaliburs or Exeters amongst the Scimitars, warbirds, Tal Shiar Borg adapted ships, Dominion, Cardassian, Ferengi, Tholian, Breen, Risan Corvettes AND lets not forget the EQUALLY ABSURD and out of place, timeships ......
There is NO ONE who can argue (with a straight face), that a few T5 constitution's more modern variants sprinkled in this mix would seriously break ANYONE's immersion more than it's been stomped all over at this point.
And it's only going to get worse with each new lock box event.
It's time to recognize the argument against the T5 connie variants for what it is, (Just damned silly at this point really) and go and give players WHAT THEY WANT.
The interests FOR they're inclusion has only strengthened with time, what with the revival of Trek thanks to the Abrams movies AND the direction the game is going for reasons pointed out earlier.
More new players after seeing the movies, are looking for these T5 connie variants, The movies have rekindled interest in them and that design, BECAUSE IT'S MORE MODERN TREK NOW.
So the numbers of people looking for them, who want them included in game, are GROWING due to the movies.
We've included the Tal Shiar adapted ships, with their design nod to the Narada.....
Put the T5 connie newer variants in the fleet stores already please.
MAKE THE GAME SOME MORE EASY MONEY with very little effort. The proverbial win, win situation if I saw it.
But LOGIC continues to defy ..........
Why is it absurd? Using human logic for alien races is absurd. Humans need change. We need everything to be new and different from the previous generation. After all people have to buy the latest iPhone or similar product when their old one works perfectly fine. Therefore our ship designs have to change every few years and any old ship design that still exists was built years ago and not recently.
Alien races don't have to follow that logic. If the ship design works perfectly fine, then why replace it? All that is needed is to utilize the latest technology in its construction. Therefore Starfleet ship designs from 200 years ago would make sense for a Lieutenant to operate while a Tier 5 version piloted by a Vice Admiral doesn't. It also makes sense why Romulan ship designs can be operated at Tier 1 and Tier 5. The Tier 1 Romulan ship is from 200 years ago while the Tier 5 ship was built recently using recent shipyard technologies. So while the design is the same, all the technology in the Tier 5 Romulan ship is completely different.
Making Tier 5 versions of the Constitution and NX would be like putting a V8 engine in a Model T. It might go faster than an original Model T, but it would not go faster than any Car that was designed with the V8 engine in mind.
To give nods to the classic era but again this is TNG era game. I expect to see TNG era ships in it. not TMP era ships known to be retired at this point. IF a TMP era game was made i'd join it to if it was good.
Then why don't they retire the Galaxy and the sovvy as the Oddy is new baby on the block.I wish this game used the stardate system like SFC2 becasue it would take 13+ years to even make the Galaxy not to mention the Sovvy.
Aircraft Carrier take over 3 years to build which is the same size as the Consitution.I would give the Const. about 5 years to build.
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Then why don't they retire the Galaxy and the sovvy as the Oddy is new baby on the block.I wish this game used the stardate system like SFC2 becasue it would take 13+ years to even make the Galaxy not to mention the Sovvy.
Aircraft Carrier take over 3 years to build which is the same size as the Consitution.I would give the Const. about 5 years to build.
taking into account industrial transporter and industrial replicator tech, i'd par that down to 4 months for a galaxy class; assuming any sort of modern power supply and almost any sizable matter supply are available. (at this tech level even a star would do)
and thats assuming no automation of labor.
technically you should be able to just plug your design into a shipyard and watch it build itself at this level of technological advancement.
Then why don't they retire the Galaxy and the sovvy as the Oddy is new baby on the block.I wish this game used the stardate system like SFC2 becasue it would take 13+ years to even make the Galaxy not to mention the Sovvy.
Aircraft Carrier take over 3 years to build which is the same size as the Consitution.I would give the Const. about 5 years to build.
Simple their hull designs are still young enough to still be viable. At this point the sov is 40 years old, Gla 50. so they have several decades left. And before you point out ST3 note they were expecting the transwarp to suceed thus Connie imediately obsolete. with failure the connie got a few years repreve till enough excels replaced them. I don't expect a m,TRIBBLE production of Oddys do to size and the Gal/sov are modular enough and adaptive enough to still work.
taking into account industrial transporter and industrial replicator tech, i'd par that down to 4 months for a galaxy class; assuming any sort of modern power supply and almost any sizable matter supply are available. (at this tech level even a star would do)
and thats assuming no automation of labor.
technically you should be able to just plug your design into a shipyard and watch it build itself at this level of technological advancement.
I doubt that and it would need the power of the sun to run it for all that required energy.
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The Connie is not obsolete as there are more versions that are built.The Galaxy takes way to longer to build that is why there are only a few of them.
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Only way I can see it working is to give the T5 Excel' platform an option for a Connie Hull appearance package, the T5 "Heavy Cruiser" a Miranda skin etc.
*EDIT: This only applies to the TOS Constitution (thanks Snoggy for clarification).
I would take that with a truckload of salt. I have never seen the devs make a distinction at any time of which Constitution class CBS said no to, and I have been watching this argument for three years.
The closest we ever came was a Geko interview saying that it was an uphill battle for them to get the connie in at all.
That there is an implied TOS no but TMP is fine statement is nothing more than wishful thinking on the pro-Connie crowd's part.
I doubt that and it would need the power of the sun to run it for all that required energy.
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The Connie is not obsolete as there are more versions that are built.The Galaxy takes way to longer to build that is why there are only a few of them.
after TMp refit i haven't seen any canon ones, some fan ones yes. but again Excel did everything the connie does so when enough of them made connie retired. the connie at the very most has 30 ships, the Excel in the hundreds. Longer production run. Right now besides Republic and E-A the rest are in mothballs stored if their are desperately needed.
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This game is not a TNG game, it is a post TNG game. The same reason you could ask for tier 5 TNG ships when they are older than the status quo of star fleet can be used by us older fans.
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Maybe post TNG well then even more reason for less TMP era ships. While I don't mind some zen ships of TMP it has to be within reason. Heck by STO timeline Miranda and Excal should be on their way out. I like TMP era ships but most do not go in this game. if an MMO of TMP era Trek came out I'd join it if it was good
This is sad, you can admit the TNG ships have been replaced, but can't accept that people want and should get to play ships that are older.
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because I understand the era in which this game is being played. I went into STO not expecting a connie of any type. And again should anotehr MMO come out that is TMP I join if it was good. or heck make a server that is all TMP era with everything and i wouldn't mind.
No it's not. It's way beyond the TNG era. It's 25th Century. Things like the Odyssey, the Undine War, the entire story of Legacy of Romulus, all of the content should really just smack you over the head with how non-TNG era the game is.
The Enterprise is captained by an Andorian. It's ship classification is a brand new ship. The Undine infiltrated various planetary governments causing a new war to break out between the Federation and the Klingons. The Romulans are in pieces, trying to put some semblance of a home together. People fly Breen and Dominion and Ferengi ships. People fly party ships from Risa now. People fly T'Varos, D'Kyrs, Kumaris. People fly Olympic class Vessels and Galaxy-X Dreadnoughts from alternate timelines. People fly timeships from the 29th Century.
This game is so far beyond TNG era. The person that needs to deal with it, is more than likely you. You keep clinging to some structure you think this game has, which is clearly doesn't.
Because they are STO created skins of the connie, but if they didn't have Connie refit option then viable.
25th is still under TNG era if you forgot Admiral Riker, Gul madred, Worf. also the era show a substancal upgrade in tech. i don't see a substanal change from TNG to STO like there is from TMP to TNG. Admittedly this is my opinion but there are facts to support it. If you feel STO is a new era that is your opinion and we can have a friendly debate on it.
at this point, there is no reason to limit these vessels as some have stated, and there is no reason not to have them. I'd support them never being in the game, when all bug owners, Galor flyers, and such, willing give their ships up because they are not suppose to have them. Or Limit the bug to mark 8 gear because its Cannon fodder canon wise. Canon has no place here at this point.
if there is a big enough market for a ship, I see no reason not to let them have it.
Not really. This game is so far beyond that. This game is not TNG era. It's its own thing. How can you not see that?
Admiral Riker doesn't exist in the prime universe timeline. Nor does he exist in STO.
There is a Riker in STO. It's the son of Thomas Riker. That should be yet another hint that this game is not a TNG era game. It's some future era that Cryptic itself is writing and making up.
The uniforms are all haphazard.
People are flying Breen ships. And Risa Corvettes. And Odysseys.
If you're not seeing substantial changes, then you're really just not opening your own eyes. You should go and browse the STO Wiki and read all the lore this game has. It's so far beyond the TNG era.
Joshua mentions his uncle ADMIRAL RIKER, and you forgot Worf and other characters STILL TNG ERA
then who is that Klingon on Qo'Nos who is named Worf... an Imposter?
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This ^^^
The argument against the T5 connie became absurd quite some time ago.
I remember Geko was it ?, in an Interview justifying the use of the even older, canonically speaking T'varo.
He thought that the design was cool, and that it was a much more modern design than the similar TOS warbird it was based off of, therefore it could/should be included.
I found his argument to include it, hysterical and an example of extreme hypocrisy, as this is the VERY SAME argument that's been made countless times for the inclusion of a T5 version of the Excalibur and the Exeter models.
How can I back up my point? Most damning, Just sit outside Earth space dock now a days. With the wonderful assortment of exotic, non canon ships stationed there.
Having a few T5 Excaliburs or Exeters amongst the Scimitars, warbirds, Tal Shiar Borg adapted ships, Dominion, Cardassian, Ferengi, Tholian, Breen, Risan Corvettes AND lets not forget the EQUALLY ABSURD and out of place, timeships ......
There is NO ONE who can argue (with a straight face), that a few T5 constitution's more modern variants sprinkled in this mix would seriously break ANYONE's immersion more than it's been stomped all over at this point.
And it's only going to get worse with each new lock box event.
It's time to recognize the argument against the T5 connie variants for what it is, (Just damned silly at this point really) and go and give players WHAT THEY WANT.
The interests FOR they're inclusion has only strengthened with time, what with the revival of Trek thanks to the Abrams movies AND the direction the game is going for reasons pointed out earlier.
More new players after seeing the movies, are looking for these T5 connie variants, The movies have rekindled interest in them and that design, BECAUSE IT'S MORE MODERN TREK NOW.
So the numbers of people looking for them, who want them included in game, are GROWING due to the movies.
We've included the Tal Shiar adapted ships, with their design nod to the Narada.....
Put the T5 connie newer variants in the fleet stores already please.
MAKE THE GAME SOME MORE EASY MONEY with very little effort. The proverbial win, win situation if I saw it.
But LOGIC continues to defy ..........
What would you do with it that is A: Unique and distinctive from other existing cruisers, and B: Doesn't simply flat-out outclass them. Obviously, they could just release a flat out inferior ship, whereupon you could then all shut up about it. After all, there's plenty of Fleet Duds no one flies.
I didn't forget Worf at all. But you seem to think that Admiral Riker is in this STO continuity when he isn't. That's a character from an alternate timeline.
Imposter is one way of describing an inserted Undine Agent, yes.
Give it the same treatment that the Nova and the Saber got when they made those T2 ships into fleet variants.
Wow... Ok, please take your boot off my face.
All currently existing STO ship/tier contradictions (that has introduced such angst) set aside, I'd like to see the more classes of TOS ships to be available for Foundry and the players.
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Why is it absurd? Using human logic for alien races is absurd. Humans need change. We need everything to be new and different from the previous generation. After all people have to buy the latest iPhone or similar product when their old one works perfectly fine. Therefore our ship designs have to change every few years and any old ship design that still exists was built years ago and not recently.
Alien races don't have to follow that logic. If the ship design works perfectly fine, then why replace it? All that is needed is to utilize the latest technology in its construction. Therefore Starfleet ship designs from 200 years ago would make sense for a Lieutenant to operate while a Tier 5 version piloted by a Vice Admiral doesn't. It also makes sense why Romulan ship designs can be operated at Tier 1 and Tier 5. The Tier 1 Romulan ship is from 200 years ago while the Tier 5 ship was built recently using recent shipyard technologies. So while the design is the same, all the technology in the Tier 5 Romulan ship is completely different.
Making Tier 5 versions of the Constitution and NX would be like putting a V8 engine in a Model T. It might go faster than an original Model T, but it would not go faster than any Car that was designed with the V8 engine in mind.
Then why don't they retire the Galaxy and the sovvy as the Oddy is new baby on the block.I wish this game used the stardate system like SFC2 becasue it would take 13+ years to even make the Galaxy not to mention the Sovvy.
Aircraft Carrier take over 3 years to build which is the same size as the Consitution.I would give the Const. about 5 years to build.
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taking into account industrial transporter and industrial replicator tech, i'd par that down to 4 months for a galaxy class; assuming any sort of modern power supply and almost any sizable matter supply are available. (at this tech level even a star would do)
and thats assuming no automation of labor.
technically you should be able to just plug your design into a shipyard and watch it build itself at this level of technological advancement.
Simple their hull designs are still young enough to still be viable. At this point the sov is 40 years old, Gla 50. so they have several decades left. And before you point out ST3 note they were expecting the transwarp to suceed thus Connie imediately obsolete. with failure the connie got a few years repreve till enough excels replaced them. I don't expect a m,TRIBBLE production of Oddys do to size and the Gal/sov are modular enough and adaptive enough to still work.
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The Connie is not obsolete as there are more versions that are built.The Galaxy takes way to longer to build that is why there are only a few of them.
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I would take that with a truckload of salt. I have never seen the devs make a distinction at any time of which Constitution class CBS said no to, and I have been watching this argument for three years.
The closest we ever came was a Geko interview saying that it was an uphill battle for them to get the connie in at all.
That there is an implied TOS no but TMP is fine statement is nothing more than wishful thinking on the pro-Connie crowd's part.
after TMp refit i haven't seen any canon ones, some fan ones yes. but again Excel did everything the connie does so when enough of them made connie retired. the connie at the very most has 30 ships, the Excel in the hundreds. Longer production run. Right now besides Republic and E-A the rest are in mothballs stored if their are desperately needed.