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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Orion Girl was a bit promiscuous, but that is canon.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Kissing counts

    and yes he is her teacher he refers to her as his best student

    of course spock in this film is insane but thats probably due to the deaths of billions of his people on Romulus (vulcans and romulans are the same species way back)

    they basically made each character something they weren't

    oh and yes he is a stoner (the Actor not the character) he was interviewed after "harold and kumar escape from guantalamo" and freely admitted to using weed when younger

    and being put on the flag ship in a post you are not qualified for is promotion
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    complaining that Kirk was a sexist jerk...have you not seen an episode of TOS...there wasnt a female Kirk didnt try to sleep with...hell he even mentions why someone assigned him an attractive yeoman...they even make fun of it in Undiscovered Country
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Kissing counts

    You call her a TRIBBLE because she kissed someone?

    That's messed up.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Kirk is a teenage boy in this version (and possibly still has zits)
    its not kirk im complaining about (although he is unfit for command and clearly needs 15 years in maximum security)
    he should however be almost twice as old as chekov

    as to women he did not try and kiss etc spocks mom
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Spock's "people" weren't on Romulus.

    The Romulons separated from the Vulcans due to opposing cultural differences.

    That would be like saying my people are genners, very insulting.
  • lostcause212lostcause212 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    OK, I'm about ready to file half of this argument under "Straws, Clutching At".
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  • startrek1234567startrek1234567 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Kissing counts

    and yes he is her teacher he refers to her as his best student

    of course spock in this film is insane but thats probably due to the deaths of billions of his people on Romulus (vulcans and romulans are the same species way back)

    they basically made each character something they weren't

    oh and yes he is a stoner (the Actor not the character) he was interviewed after "harold and kumar escape from guantalamo" and freely admitted to using weed when younger

    and being put on the flag ship in a post you are not qualified for is promotion

    Sexual harassment refers to persistent and unwanted sexual advances, typically in the workplace, where the consequences of refusing are potentially very disadvantageous to the victim-Wikipedia

    If i remember right, Uhura made the first move, and Spock seemed ok with it. Spock I would not say is insane, the emotions he had in movie were due to him being half human, and he is also half human in the original time line. If your friend was dying wouldn't you be pretty upset?

    Spock was pretty logical in both timelines.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Spock appeared to tolerate Uhura's kiss as he would have any species cultural quirks.

    "Dammit Jim, He's a Vulcan, not a child molester!"
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This is not a good description of the characters, scotty had the right accent(why does the accent matter anyway, i really just go for the quality of the character, not what his accent is)

    simon peg admits he can't do scots
    Uhura is in no way a TRIBBLE, explain in more detail of why you think she is.

    flirting with her teacher
    Spock, a sex maniac. He is definitely not that. What student?
    uhura
    and some people think kirk as well but I don't see that

    McCoy, a criminal, how?

    medical malpractice deliberately faking records etc
    Pike. insane?, he seemed pretty sane to me, had some wise words at beginning of movie too
    .
    he promoted a teenage idiot to command a starship over 400 better qualified officers?

    Kirk, i can see where your coming from sorta.
    the proper kirk was sexist sometimes but he was never a brute
    Sulu seemed alright to me.

    parking brake joke alone should get JJ slapped
    as well as casting a korean as a Japanese person (and its a race not a nationality American is a nationality)

    also why does EVERYONE have to be a comedy spoof?
    Galaxy Quest was closer to trek than this
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Kissing counts

    and yes he is her teacher he refers to her as his best student

    of course spock in this film is insane but thats probably due to the deaths of billions of his people on Romulus (vulcans and romulans are the same species way back)

    they basically made each character something they weren't

    oh and yes he is a stoner (the Actor not the character) he was interviewed after "harold and kumar escape from guantalamo" and freely admitted to using weed when younger

    and being put on the flag ship in a post you are not qualified for is promotion

    so we are holding actor's personal lives against them...Nimoy had an alcohol problem, Nichelle Nichols had an affair with Roddenberry...while he was married...
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    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Drug use is illegal
    sleeping with gene isn't

    and as I say could they not find a mid thirties Japanese American actor?

    and by defintion a senior officer involved with a cadet HAS commited sexual harrasment
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Kirk is a teenage boy in this version (and possibly still has zits)
    its not kirk im complaining about (although he is unfit for command and clearly needs 15 years in maximum security)
    he should however be almost twice as old as chekov

    as to women he did not try and kiss etc spocks mom

    Kirk is in a bar drinking...he's not a teenager
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    not spent much time in bars?
    kids as young as 12 sneak in

    he is clearly a teen
    he behaves like one , dresses like one and talks like one I half expect him to say "your not my dad" to spock
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Drug use is illegal
    sleeping with gene isn't

    and as I say could they not find a mid thirties Japanese American actor?

    and by defintion a senior officer involved with a cadet HAS commited sexual harrasment

    It's not illegal in California....hasn't been since 1996
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Its illegal Globally
    california simply has not caught up with it yet

    use weed you are a criminal
    no exceptions
    Live long and Prosper
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    not spent much time in bars?
    kids as young as 12 sneak in

    he is clearly a teen
    he behaves like one , dresses like one and talks like one I half expect him to say "your not my dad" to spock

    and are promply kicked out
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • lostcause212lostcause212 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    as well as casting a korean as a Japanese person (and its a race not a nationality American is a nationality)


    And yet you have no problems with:
    • A Canadian cast as a Scotsman (James Doohan)
    • A Canadian cast as an American (William Shatner)
    • A New Zealander cast as an American (Karl Urban)
    • An Englishman cast as a Scotsman (Simon Pegg)
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  • startrek1234567startrek1234567 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    simon peg admits he can't do scots



    flirting with her teacher


    uhura
    and some people think kirk as well but I don't see that




    medical malpractice deliberately faking records etc

    .
    he promoted a teenage idiot to command a starship over 400 better qualified officers?



    the proper kirk was sexist sometimes but he was never a brute



    parking brake joke alone should get JJ slapped
    as well as casting a korean as a Japanese person (and its a race not a nationality American is a nationality)

    also why does EVERYONE have to be a comedy spoof?
    Galaxy Quest was closer to trek than this

    As I recall in all the Star Trek series, the rules were bent a LOT, McCoy is not the only one.

    With Kirk, the reason he was chosen is because Kirk was the captain of the Enterprise in TOS.

    Pike chose Kirk because he saved his life, saved Earth, and defeated Nero. Kirk also seemed pretty smart in the movies( but he can be unwise at times, like any captain could be)
    Uhura was referred to as Lieutenant, she is not a student, she is a officer.

    Sulu is not a big deal.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    None at all
    you see canadians can be of scottish decent (and he was i believe)
    an actor can do the accent no problem at all for me

    tell me would you want to see martin luthor king played by a chinese guy?
    perhaps abraham lincoln played by a woman??

    and you will notice I said simon peg can't do scots (and he admits it)
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    "Do you get along with other Robots?"
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Its illegal Globally
    california simply has not caught up with it yet

    use weed you are a criminal
    no exceptions

    global doesnt matter...and currently there are 18 states that legalized weed. As of this writing 17 countries have legalized weed.
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    flirting with her teacher

    Wait, this is taking a turn to the surreal.

    Uhura is a TRIBBLE because:

    1- She kissed someone.
    2- She flirted with someone.

    Are you serious? You define those actions as those of a TRIBBLE?

    Do you realize what that makes you sound like?

    sollvax wrote: »
    Drug use is illegal
    sleeping with gene isn't

    Adultery is and was back then still on the books as illegal in a lot of states.

    sollvax wrote: »
    Its illegal Globally

    Amsterdam would like a word with you.
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  • daunknownadmindaunknownadmin Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I mean, everyone has their opinion, but why do people think JJ ruined Star Trek?
    This: http://youtu.be/DiQ9piVgtWM
  • squatsaucesquatsauce Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Sollvax, are you trolling us?
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    perhaps abraham lincoln played by a woman??

    I saw Bob Dylan played by a woman. It was pretty awesome. It was the same actor who played Lady Galadriel. Mind blowing stuff.
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    None at all
    you see canadians can be of scottish decent (and he was i believe)
    an actor can do the accent no problem at all for me

    tell me would you want to see martin luthor king played by a chinese guy?
    perhaps abraham lincoln played by a woman??

    and you will notice I said simon peg can't do scots (and he admits it)

    dont forget they cast a non Vulcan as a Vulcan
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Korea has the death penalty for drugs (and he is Korean)

    and its specifically flirting with and kissing and probably sleeping with an instructor
    a cadet no problem
    an instructor his career is over and your expelled


    as to amsterdam
    EU law will soon close down that loop hole
    Live long and Prosper
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited May 2013

    You will note they also slam a lot of other movies including Iron Man and The Dark Knight.

    I'm upset no one got my Robot quote :(
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    squatsauce wrote: »
    Sollvax, are you trolling us?

    i think he is
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
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