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shadowheartt
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Was going through memory alpha and read the nebula was designed for saucer recovery of galaxy saucers and was like so much they gave them a dedicated saucer so shouldnt it be able to saucer sep as well
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The whole point of the Nebula class is that is was quicker and "cheaper" (but we live in a society with no concept of money...) to make then a Galaxy class while keeping most of the elbow room for science and exploration.
Constitution: A saucer, with a stardrive attacked by a neck, with 2 nacelles coming off the side.
Miranda: Uses the same components as the connie, but the saucer has the torpedo launcher on the top of a module, with the nacelles bolted to the side.
And then,
Galaxy: A saucer, with a stardrive attacked by a neck, with 2 nacelles coming off the side.
Nebula: Uses the same components as the galaxy, but the saucer has the torpedo launcher on the top of a module, with the nacelles bolted to the side.
See what they did there?
Sigh. Really? Did he also say it has a cloaking device? Might as well make it an enhanced battlecloak while we're at it. My sci alt flies a Vesta and I love it dearly but it really should be called the "Mary Sue class", not the Vesta, because what can't it do?
And regarding the Nebula it absolutely should not have saucer sep.
Me to, An Intrepid class can jettison it`s entire bridge section on top in case of an emergency.
Furthermore the saucer section is build up from pressurized cabins so this makes a seperation impossible.
A Nebula class is the "cheap" sister for the Galaxy class where the sole function is Scientific missions. A Galaxy class was also designed to defend the federation borders.
In the end.... we`re all Ferengi!
Not really the same because on the Miranda the "saucer" is clearly not the same as on the Constitution.
In addition everything is connected to it: the torpedo module as well as the nacelles.
On the Nebula there are two pieces: a saucer with a distinct lower hull and its own deflector.
And both the module as well as the nacelles are not connected to the saucer.
For its sole function being science, it sure could kick the TRIBBLE outta things...just ask the Cardassians.
Remember: the science version (which we unfortunaately don't have) still has its torpedo tube between the saucer and the lower hull so it's far from defenseless.
Also, unlike the Galor in this game, Cardassian ships were usually rather crappy vessels.
The Galor that attacked the Enterprise in that episode got a first strike off and nontheless the Enterprise easily overpowered her.
I'm still very sad we didn't get the original Nebula version
with the larger deflector
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070807144460/startrek/images/0/0f/USS_Prometheus,_Nebula_class.jpg
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110728202510/memoryalpha/en/images/5/54/Nebula_class_studio_model_after_refurbishment.jpg
but only the DS9 CGI kitbash with the Galaxy deflector.:(
Given that the Nebula was designed explicitly for a multi-role mission profile, it's not at all a pure science ship. Combat was very much within her envelope.
Personally I'd prefer the Phoenix variant. Having actual separation from the saucer and mission module just looks a bit more workable to me.
I would have sad, they send a Nebula because it is a big ship and can carry a lot of people and that's it.
It would make more sense that the smaller ships flying in formation were send as the actual recovery ships similar to small towing boats we use today to tow large liners into and out of a harbor.
I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand what you want to say...could you please explain?
Well Voyager is one of the "hero" ships like the Defiant in DS9 and hence can do whatever it wants according to the writers. One of the things that always drove me nuts about the shows. How many battles did Voyager take major damage and she somehow made it through 6-7 years without any major refits or repairs.
As for saucer sep o nthe Nebula, I think it's un-needed. I'd rather see them revisit the console situation on that ship before doing saucer separation.
Voyager indeed is a "Hero"-ship but also has it limitations. As seen in many episodes they needed to stop and refill on deuterium, refresh the dilitthium and so on. The main advance of voyager was the ability to land so major repairs could be done (as seen in "Dragon's Teeth" - lands for repair after being fired upon and "Nightingale" - lands for maintenence as seen in this picture;
As I remember the Intrepid tech manual claims; 4 month resupply, 1 year minor refit, 5 year major refit. And that is is without the new borg tech and other upgrades. So in my opinion the writers stayed "true" to real life operations
But back on topic for the Nebula class
I think it would be tricky to reconnect the saucer with the sensor or torpedo dome on top of it. Furthermore, if the Nebula should go into combat, (torpedo dome on top) then why does it need a saucer seperation? Remember TNG Encounter at far point, the sep. was needed to bring the civilians on board away from hostile fire, which is logic because without the saucer section, you`d loose about three quarter of phaser strips, and you don`t have a warp core to provide power to them.
imho, a saucer sep for the nebula is not needed and useless.
In the end.... we`re all Ferengi!
Note the so called battle Bridge for Excel can easily be Aux control, the Connie had that so can the Excel
And even if Cryptic did offer it up, the attempt would be worse than the Gal-X they are working on right now as the Pod and Pylon stand higher than the 3rd nacelle on the Gal-X, not including the overshadowing of it.
Our Battles
From what I understand about the Nebula. If it was indeed able to function as a Saucer reclamation vessel I imagine it would involve detaching the multi-mission module above her own Saucer and somehow latching onto the Saucer there.
I saw a custom made model of it once. Was kinda hilarious, but nifty too.
Spoken like a Borg!
And without the saucer section you lack impulse power ;-)
Just looked at the tech manual; The mission profile of the Nebula-class varied from performing various scientific and exploratory roles to conducting patrol and transport duties.
Now instead of saucer sep. for the Nebula, I would like to see the various options for the superstructure. Atop the primary hull of a Nebula is a superstructure which can support a variety of modules, such as the inclusion of a triangular platform (as seen ingame), fitted with torpedo launchers, an oval platform fitted with sensors, or an additional warp nacelles. These can be interchanged at the same officer where you change the ships exterior.
Then if you mount the torp platform, you`ll get a torpedo or DPS bonus, Sensors give sci bonus and reveal cloaked ships, and the extra naccele gives a speed an manoeuvre bonus. Nice in PVP to work in pairs (torp & sensor) against Romulan Warbirds ;-) Now that is something I`ll pay money for!
In the end.... we`re all Ferengi!
I believe the universal Lt is supposed to represent the ship's module.
Of course additional modules as visual options would still be welcome.
It's still confusing to me that they gave the Nebula a sensor-based special ability...without the rear sensor module.