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edited March 2014
I brought the question about the bug up in the thread that CaptainSmirk was in, since I missed the meet n greet. Got a response from an Environmental Designer saying he'd pass it along, so at least someone knows this is still around.
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
Jeremy Randall
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
That kind of heads-up is exactly what I wanted to hear on that front!
...Though while you're at it, the upper arm armor choices for KHG type 2 (at least) is missing for female Remans. Here's a pic from the tailor. If the upper arm armor was available, there would be left and right arm accessory options between the hands options and the shoulder pad options. I haven't unlocked the Hos or Quv variants on that character, yet.
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
Sweet. As long as the Be'ves chest option is fixed for KDF females, then me and lots of other players will be happy with it. I assume that it doesn't requires the costume unlock project that requires completing all optionals and get the Mk XII Honor Guard Ground set.
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
Good to know you're at least looking at it I guess. With any luck the 'updates' are going to make the original rep systems a bit more like the Dyson rep so it's less grindy and pointless getting mk x gear and what not.
Though it is kind of laughable that a fix for a costume problem which has existed since the rep system was introduced with season 7, is now looking to hopefully be fixed with an update in season 9. Why do you hate fixing the bugs? :P
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
I met several of you devs at #STLV 2013 and discussed this issue with you guys last summer. Reference bug report #2,350,178.
My toon was created a long time ago (pre rep system) and was caught in the middle when the rep system launched. Caught in the middle meaning that I had about 1/2 of the Borg STF's and optionals completed when the overhaul happened.
Now I have gone back and attempted to fix things on my end...I went back thru numerous times and successfully completed all STF's with optionals (all 12 of them)
I went back thru the rep system and repurchased every piece of equipment from it from Mk X to Adapted Mk XII. It took an insane amount of time to do this grinding but I did it.
And the end result is the same. The accolades associated with the Borg STF's are frozen. This has resulted in locked costumes, locked titles, reduced accolade points, and most likely I'm missing some passive ability. This is directly effecting gameplay and most likely any player from pre season 7 that's still playing.
Why you would fix the trails coming out of a Romulan ship before you fix this bug makes no sense. You've fixed trails, and random team leader abilities that very few players even know exist (let alone have as much affect as the bug I have reported time and time again)
In the sake of fairness, will you please fix this bug? One of the dev team spoke out and directly stated that PvP sucks in game. I know for a fact that passives come into play in certain conditions and I refuse to PvP (or spend any more money) I'm game while this bug remains. It's not fair to PvP when I know I'm missing abilities. This kind of stuff directly relates to getting people in to PvP and player retention (I stopped playing for months because of this and several other bugs) and I can't fathom why this particular bug isn't being addressed. This particular bug affects several different aspects to the game.
We're in the midst of updating Costume Unlocks associated with Reputation Armors/Sets, as one of the features that will be included with Season 9, along with some other Reputation updates.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
Don't go getting are hopes up Bort, we will keep you all to your word!!!
Not trying to sound mean or threatening in any way, but we have been disappointed far to long with no results and feedback regarding this matter.
The programming dept. responsible for outfits/uniforms/costumes has been a leading failure in implementation for years now.
I met several of you devs at #STLV 2013 and discussed this issue with you guys last summer. Reference bug report #2,350,178.
My toon was created a long time ago (pre rep system) and was caught in the middle when the rep system launched. Caught in the middle meaning that I had about 1/2 of the Borg STF's and optionals completed when the overhaul happened.
Now I have gone back and attempted to fix things on my end...I went back thru numerous times and successfully completed all STF's with optionals (all 12 of them)
I went back thru the rep system and repurchased every piece of equipment from it from Mk X to Adapted Mk XII. It took an insane amount of time to do this grinding but I did it.
And the end result is the same. The accolades associated with the Borg STF's are frozen. This has resulted in locked costumes, locked titles, reduced accolade points, and most likely I'm missing some passive ability. This is directly effecting gameplay and most likely any player from pre season 7 that's still playing.
Why you would fix the trails coming out of a Romulan ship before you fix this bug makes no sense. You've fixed trails, and random team leader abilities that very few players even know exist (let alone have as much affect as the bug I have reported time and time again)
In the sake of fairness, will you please fix this bug? One of the dev team spoke out and directly stated that PvP sucks in game. I know for a fact that passives come into play in certain conditions and I refuse to PvP (or spend any more money) I'm game while this bug remains. It's not fair to PvP when I know I'm missing abilities. This kind of stuff directly relates to getting people in to PvP and player retention (I stopped playing for months because of this and several other bugs) and I can't fathom why this particular bug isn't being addressed. This particular bug affects several different aspects to the game.
I have 7 toons that are after S7 and have had no problem with what you mention, and 21 toons that predate S7 that still have no problem with this issue so I am thinking it relates to certain players (meaning it random) and I just got lucky although it is not game breaking (maybe for you it is) I would just be patient as some "bugs" take time to sort out
I have 7 toons that are after S7 and have had no problem with what you mention, and 21 toons that predate S7 that still have no problem with this issue so I am thinking it relates to certain players (meaning it random) and I just got lucky although it is not game breaking (maybe for you it is) I would just be patient as some "bugs" take time to sort out
No.
It's exactly and precisely how we described the bug to them in december 2012.
This was back when they were denying its existance - we knew what the error was from day 1.
The first 4 month they hoped it would go away by not replying which later turned into another couple of months saying "we can't reproduce it".
The reputation system was, and killed stf, on the premise of "60 % saved time" in getting your ground sets:
People who did not play ground could now the buy the top set in the game in exchange for losing all drops from stf and having to buy 30,000 dil per weapons that were previously free.
And so there was no coding added for people who had some pieces but not all because they simplied assumed everyone would just be buying through the reputation system.
It's of course doubly tragic and sad etc. not only to see stf get killed, reputation grinding added in itself - I it flamed from the moment I read about it, but moreover when it bugs out the TOP REWARD in the game.
Way I figure they owe us for coming up on 1½ year... plus the 60% saved time that was the excuse for the reputation system.
They owe 65 weeks worth of ground set at 90,000 - reputation system taking 6 weeks to do, that's 1 million dil per person...
My only question to developers on same damed conference would be, what would happen if people delayed their payment for a 1½ year ?
My rom still not showing all the khg bits and same goes for my 2 kdf that had all elite accolades + full mkxii kits before the rep came out its a bug there added to the ignore list because its kdf.
I have all the Omega and MACO accolades completed. However I have 2 "MACO Commando" accolades in my list (1 completed, 1 not), I've never received "Omega Force Shadow Operative", and I never got the Costume Unlock project for Omega Type 3. I've had this issue for a long time and submitted numerous bug reports but I've never gotten any kind of decent response or fix. So hopefully posting on here might accomplish something. Add this to your notes plz Bort.
I have 7 toons that are after S7 and have had no problem with what you mention, and 21 toons that predate S7 that still have no problem with this issue so I am thinking it relates to certain players (meaning it random) and I just got lucky although it is not game breaking (maybe for you it is) I would just be patient as some "bugs" take time to sort out
And what exactly your your defination of time it takes? This bug is over a YEAR old.
How is not game breaking to pay for something and a year later still not have said item.
In fact a strong case could be made for consumer fraud.
Well S9 soon on the horizon, and even though some cool changes are being made to uniform/costumes/outfits (like probably breaking a lot of them if not all), it doesn't hit upon this issue concerning broken accolades due to old coding that doesn't work with the newer programming code.
We're investigating solutions for existing players with half-completed Accolades in this area. Possibly auto-completing them if you only have one piece of the set, or something like that. We don't want a player that has invested into the system to lose anything they've worked toward, but we're not completely certain on how to address it just yet.
For newer players, these Accolades will likely become un-discoverable, no longer appearing in their Journal, and no longer being something they can even begin, much less complete.
So it looks like we'll be rolled in with the revision of the Reputation System in s9 since it's implementation in S7.
I hope.
Oh good lord, we had asked for an auto completion months ago, and you are just now considering it when before it was said it wouldn't/couldn't be done. :mad:
Everyone - stop "bumping" this thread, or I'll simply ask to have it closed. It is a violation of the Forum's guidelines, and does nothing at all to aid in the resolution of the issue(s) at hand.
In fact, there's so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
In short, you are only hurting yourself with this behavior.
There is a change to Omega Costume Unlocks (and all Reputation costumes) coming to Tribble very soon, if it isn't already there. Once those are in place, then we'll have another opportunity to re-evaluate the situation, and see what straggling issues remain unresolved.
Until then, I advise everyone to stop posting to this thread unless your post contains new or useful information to the issue(s) at hand.
Jeremy Randall
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
In fact, there's so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
The accolade in question is not broken, just not completable.
If you notice in each image there are 2 identical accolades one completed and one that is not. The one that is completed is done just for having the gear. The accolade that is not completed required the items to be obtained via the stf store on DS9 using prototype tech.
The duplication of accolades occurred at the start of season 7 with the removal of the stf store and introduction of the Task Force Omega reputation system.
With out prototype personal armor tech I will not be able to complete those accolades since I did not get the tech drop in IGE. I acquired it post season 7 with the reputation project and completed the new accolade.
Everyone - stop "bumping" this thread, or I'll simply ask to have it closed. It is a violation of the Forum's guidelines, and does nothing at all to aid in the resolution of the issue(s) at hand.
In fact, there's so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
In short, you are only hurting yourself with this behavior.
There is a change to Omega Costume Unlocks (and all Reputation costumes) coming to Tribble very soon, if it isn't already there. Once those are in place, then we'll have another opportunity to re-evaluate the situation, and see what straggling issues remain unresolved.
Until then, I advise everyone to stop posting to this thread unless your post contains new or useful information to the issue(s) at hand.
Sorry bort, but click on my signature in red lettering, and it will revert you to all the information you will ever need.
This has been made available to you all for quite some time now, all you guys need do is revisit that thread.
so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
In short, you are only hurting yourself with this behavior.
... opportunity to re-evaluate the situation, and see what straggling issues remain unresolved.
Until then, I advise everyone to stop posting to this thread unless your post contains new or useful information to the issue(s) at hand.
Are we back to pretending you don't know how this bug happen? Impressive
I'd assume you've been hard at work fixing this for 1½ years and don't go off, selective sanction people and ignore them as you see fit, simply for reminding you of slobby work?
Still want to silence this to death so badly you forget your manners?
"An oppertunity to re-evaluate"? hahah that's priceless, can't we just agree this should have been fixed 1½ years ago?
Everyone - stop "bumping" this thread, or I'll simply ask to have it closed. It is a violation of the Forum's guidelines, and does nothing at all to aid in the resolution of the issue(s) at hand.
In fact, there's so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
In short, you are only hurting yourself with this behavior.
There is a change to Omega Costume Unlocks (and all Reputation costumes) coming to Tribble very soon, if it isn't already there. Once those are in place, then we'll have another opportunity to re-evaluate the situation, and see what straggling issues remain unresolved.
Until then, I advise everyone to stop posting to this thread unless your post contains new or useful information to the issue(s) at hand.
Respectfully Bort I don't know that your in the right about this one.
I have certainly noted some unkind comments toward you in this thread and that has been wrong as well.
I also appreciate that this thread is probably a sore spot for you personally. I am sure it was born out of good intentions that met with failure, and a lot of the posts in it may be salt in the wound.
But is bumping this thread honestly hurting our chances of getting a fix? I don't see how. What data can you possibly gather from this thread now that you don't already know? Does bumping the thread help you find new information in it? No of course not, but there isn't any new information to find, so its not actually hurting.
We know what the bug is, you know what the bug is. We know what update caused the bug, so do you. If you want more information from us your going to have to give us some source code to look at, because you already have the character handles, the bug reports and the screenshots. There is nothing more we can provide you with client side.
Given the above, bumping this thread dose nothing to hinder you fixing this issue. On the other hand it gives us an outlet which frankly we need, and which you and the moderators should be able to appreciate.
We want this fixed but we are impotent. cryptic doesn't give us a way to monetarily incentivize fixing this bug. And as it primarily effects a ratio of the customer base that is diminishing cryptics existing incentive is never going to get any bigger.
The only hope we have of getting a fix is keeping this thread alive, because devoting resources to fixing this issue is a completely illogical decision for cryptic if they think no one cares any more.
Now all that said, maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is some data we can still provide. If that's the case let us know what you need, and we will find a way to get you that information.
Heck, if it will help. put an old pre reputation build up on redshirt and give us access to the server, we will go smash some borg, get all but one optional, then wait for you to update the server to post rep, log back in and reproduce the bug for you.
... bumping is certainly against the rules mind you. I would like to say to the moderators that I am very gratfull to them for overlooking this thread for so long.
If it is to be enforced and this thread is locked I would like to propose to those keeping this thread alive that we move our discussion to the general forum, where more people will see it.
If we chose our title carefully we can get around the no-bumping rule and keep the thread alive as long as this one more easily, and with far more views.
... bumping is certainly against the rules mind you. I would like to say to the moderators that I am very gratfull to them for overlooking this thread for so long.
If it is to be enforced and this thread is locked I would like to propose to those keeping this thread alive that we move our discussion to the general forum, where more people will see it.
If we chose our title carefully we can get around the no-bumping rule and keep the thread alive as long as this one more easily, and with far more views.
How about no? Opeing a new thread that a mod closes is not allowed either.
Now back on topic
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About the same as the sticky from 2010 about getting stuck, doesn't that tell you something?
Give it a few more weeks this will be the TOP THREAD in the bug forum. The titan champion grandmaster. Meanwhile you got developers trying to pretend it doesn't exist talk about white elephant in the room.
Hat's off to everyone who helped made that happen.
This should have been a sticky because maco/omega is not just the top set in the game but also was the excuse for launching reputation.
We are giving you reputation grinding, as a favour, so you can save 60% in getting your ground sets, remember?
So it's not just a bug, it's THE bug - of course people crashing or other stability on larger scale takes presendence.
When people have kept bumping it respectlessly it was in recognition developers were hoping we'd let it go, that they could silent veto it out, but we wouldn't let them.
As months rolled off the calender and they started to realize that wasn't going to happen things became awkward.
I have this thread as my only forum bookmark I ever had period, because I want them to remember how this just wasn't good enough.
10 years down the road they doing some other game and think back on STO I want them to remember the maco/omega bug and thread as the first thing that comes to mind.
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Acutely I was looking back at my tickets and notes. This problem is official over the one year mark of begin around. And as far as I can tell
ZERO attempts have been made to fix this.
In fact one more month and be a year scene anyone at cryptic even address these issues.
I can't share fulll details on exactly what we're doing, since that work is still in-progress. But keep an eye on Tribble over the next month or so.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
That kind of heads-up is exactly what I wanted to hear on that front!
...Though while you're at it, the upper arm armor choices for KHG type 2 (at least) is missing for female Remans. Here's a pic from the tailor. If the upper arm armor was available, there would be left and right arm accessory options between the hands options and the shoulder pad options. I haven't unlocked the Hos or Quv variants on that character, yet.
Sweet. As long as the Be'ves chest option is fixed for KDF females, then me and lots of other players will be happy with it. I assume that it doesn't requires the costume unlock project that requires completing all optionals and get the Mk XII Honor Guard Ground set.
Good to know you're at least looking at it I guess. With any luck the 'updates' are going to make the original rep systems a bit more like the Dyson rep so it's less grindy and pointless getting mk x gear and what not.
Though it is kind of laughable that a fix for a costume problem which has existed since the rep system was introduced with season 7, is now looking to hopefully be fixed with an update in season 9. Why do you hate fixing the bugs? :P
I met several of you devs at #STLV 2013 and discussed this issue with you guys last summer. Reference bug report #2,350,178.
My toon was created a long time ago (pre rep system) and was caught in the middle when the rep system launched. Caught in the middle meaning that I had about 1/2 of the Borg STF's and optionals completed when the overhaul happened.
Now I have gone back and attempted to fix things on my end...I went back thru numerous times and successfully completed all STF's with optionals (all 12 of them)
I went back thru the rep system and repurchased every piece of equipment from it from Mk X to Adapted Mk XII. It took an insane amount of time to do this grinding but I did it.
And the end result is the same. The accolades associated with the Borg STF's are frozen. This has resulted in locked costumes, locked titles, reduced accolade points, and most likely I'm missing some passive ability. This is directly effecting gameplay and most likely any player from pre season 7 that's still playing.
Why you would fix the trails coming out of a Romulan ship before you fix this bug makes no sense. You've fixed trails, and random team leader abilities that very few players even know exist (let alone have as much affect as the bug I have reported time and time again)
In the sake of fairness, will you please fix this bug? One of the dev team spoke out and directly stated that PvP sucks in game. I know for a fact that passives come into play in certain conditions and I refuse to PvP (or spend any more money) I'm game while this bug remains. It's not fair to PvP when I know I'm missing abilities. This kind of stuff directly relates to getting people in to PvP and player retention (I stopped playing for months because of this and several other bugs) and I can't fathom why this particular bug isn't being addressed. This particular bug affects several different aspects to the game.
Don't go getting are hopes up Bort, we will keep you all to your word!!!
Not trying to sound mean or threatening in any way, but we have been disappointed far to long with no results and feedback regarding this matter.
The programming dept. responsible for outfits/uniforms/costumes has been a leading failure in implementation for years now.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
I have 7 toons that are after S7 and have had no problem with what you mention, and 21 toons that predate S7 that still have no problem with this issue so I am thinking it relates to certain players (meaning it random) and I just got lucky although it is not game breaking (maybe for you it is) I would just be patient as some "bugs" take time to sort out
No.
It's exactly and precisely how we described the bug to them in december 2012.
This was back when they were denying its existance - we knew what the error was from day 1.
The first 4 month they hoped it would go away by not replying which later turned into another couple of months saying "we can't reproduce it".
The reputation system was, and killed stf, on the premise of "60 % saved time" in getting your ground sets:
People who did not play ground could now the buy the top set in the game in exchange for losing all drops from stf and having to buy 30,000 dil per weapons that were previously free.
And so there was no coding added for people who had some pieces but not all because they simplied assumed everyone would just be buying through the reputation system.
It's of course doubly tragic and sad etc. not only to see stf get killed, reputation grinding added in itself - I it flamed from the moment I read about it, but moreover when it bugs out the TOP REWARD in the game.
Way I figure they owe us for coming up on 1½ year... plus the 60% saved time that was the excuse for the reputation system.
They owe 65 weeks worth of ground set at 90,000 - reputation system taking 6 weeks to do, that's 1 million dil per person...
My only question to developers on same damed conference would be, what would happen if people delayed their payment for a 1½ year ?
Apology time was 2012, this is 2014
Benkem@Perpol_Hayes
And what exactly your your defination of time it takes? This bug is over a YEAR old.
How is not game breaking to pay for something and a year later still not have said item.
In fact a strong case could be made for consumer fraud.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=15816981&postcount=110
So it looks like we'll be rolled in with the revision of the Reputation System in s9 since it's implementation in S7.
I hope.
(UFP) Ragnar
Oh good lord, we had asked for an auto completion months ago, and you are just now considering it when before it was said it wouldn't/couldn't be done. :mad:
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
In fact, there's so much useless "refreshing" of this thread going on, that wading back through the various posts to attempt to find a good set of solid repro steps, or a succinct break-down of the bugs and/or feature-requests included, has become next to impossible.
In short, you are only hurting yourself with this behavior.
There is a change to Omega Costume Unlocks (and all Reputation costumes) coming to Tribble very soon, if it isn't already there. Once those are in place, then we'll have another opportunity to re-evaluate the situation, and see what straggling issues remain unresolved.
Until then, I advise everyone to stop posting to this thread unless your post contains new or useful information to the issue(s) at hand.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
The accolade in question is not broken, just not completable.
Look at these 2 picture,
Omega Force Operative
http://i.imgur.com/UJo06yZ.jpg
M.A.C.O. Commando
http://i.imgur.com/xAIq9Aj.jpg
If you notice in each image there are 2 identical accolades one completed and one that is not. The one that is completed is done just for having the gear. The accolade that is not completed required the items to be obtained via the stf store on DS9 using prototype tech.
The duplication of accolades occurred at the start of season 7 with the removal of the stf store and introduction of the Task Force Omega reputation system.
With out prototype personal armor tech I will not be able to complete those accolades since I did not get the tech drop in IGE. I acquired it post season 7 with the reputation project and completed the new accolade.
Sorry bort, but click on my signature in red lettering, and it will revert you to all the information you will ever need.
This has been made available to you all for quite some time now, all you guys need do is revisit that thread.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Are we back to pretending you don't know how this bug happen? Impressive
I'd assume you've been hard at work fixing this for 1½ years and don't go off, selective sanction people and ignore them as you see fit, simply for reminding you of slobby work?
Still want to silence this to death so badly you forget your manners?
"An oppertunity to re-evaluate"? hahah that's priceless, can't we just agree this should have been fixed 1½ years ago?
Respectfully Bort I don't know that your in the right about this one.
I have certainly noted some unkind comments toward you in this thread and that has been wrong as well.
I also appreciate that this thread is probably a sore spot for you personally. I am sure it was born out of good intentions that met with failure, and a lot of the posts in it may be salt in the wound.
But is bumping this thread honestly hurting our chances of getting a fix? I don't see how. What data can you possibly gather from this thread now that you don't already know? Does bumping the thread help you find new information in it? No of course not, but there isn't any new information to find, so its not actually hurting.
We know what the bug is, you know what the bug is. We know what update caused the bug, so do you. If you want more information from us your going to have to give us some source code to look at, because you already have the character handles, the bug reports and the screenshots. There is nothing more we can provide you with client side.
Given the above, bumping this thread dose nothing to hinder you fixing this issue. On the other hand it gives us an outlet which frankly we need, and which you and the moderators should be able to appreciate.
We want this fixed but we are impotent. cryptic doesn't give us a way to monetarily incentivize fixing this bug. And as it primarily effects a ratio of the customer base that is diminishing cryptics existing incentive is never going to get any bigger.
The only hope we have of getting a fix is keeping this thread alive, because devoting resources to fixing this issue is a completely illogical decision for cryptic if they think no one cares any more.
Now all that said, maybe I am wrong. Maybe there is some data we can still provide. If that's the case let us know what you need, and we will find a way to get you that information.
Heck, if it will help. put an old pre reputation build up on redshirt and give us access to the server, we will go smash some borg, get all but one optional, then wait for you to update the server to post rep, log back in and reproduce the bug for you.
If it is to be enforced and this thread is locked I would like to propose to those keeping this thread alive that we move our discussion to the general forum, where more people will see it.
If we chose our title carefully we can get around the no-bumping rule and keep the thread alive as long as this one more easily, and with far more views.
Now back on topic
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About the same as the sticky from 2010 about getting stuck, doesn't that tell you something?
Give it a few more weeks this will be the TOP THREAD in the bug forum. The titan champion grandmaster. Meanwhile you got developers trying to pretend it doesn't exist talk about white elephant in the room.
Hat's off to everyone who helped made that happen.
This should have been a sticky because maco/omega is not just the top set in the game but also was the excuse for launching reputation.
We are giving you reputation grinding, as a favour, so you can save 60% in getting your ground sets, remember?
So it's not just a bug, it's THE bug - of course people crashing or other stability on larger scale takes presendence.
When people have kept bumping it respectlessly it was in recognition developers were hoping we'd let it go, that they could silent veto it out, but we wouldn't let them.
As months rolled off the calender and they started to realize that wasn't going to happen things became awkward.
I have this thread as my only forum bookmark I ever had period, because I want them to remember how this just wasn't good enough.
10 years down the road they doing some other game and think back on STO I want them to remember the maco/omega bug and thread as the first thing that comes to mind.