Wait a minute, what about the cool BoP model in game? Is that a skin for the T'Liss, or will we be able to play it as well?
Edit: If Romulans get the Scimitar, Feds should get the Typhoon or Jupiter. And Klingons should get... something. Maybe the mirror universe super-size Negh'var?
As Brandon already noted, we'll definitely have more ships than the ones that are listed in the blog right now. There will be free ships, Dilithium ships, and ZEN ships available.
Additionally, we'll have more dev blogs - including discussing more stats - as we get closer to launch.
My only hope and prayer is that the DD is not just a Copy and Paste of the Klingon Negh'var/Tor'khat. :mad:
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Weird. Other factions have at least one free ship of each class, if not two. I know they need time to make ships, but i'm a bit concerned for my F2P friends. Will they have to play a huge fat whale and that's it? Everyone in the same ship? I see why they want to give access to fed and kdf ships now. It doesn't mean i agree, but only one free T5 ship, come on...
Well from what I understood, every ship from this blog will have her T5 variant.
And that also not all availible ships for the Romulans are portrayed in this blog. I for one am still looking forward for the Valdore from the LoR website that was not portrayed in this blog.
Also looks like we're going to get more options:
As Brandon already noted, we'll definitely have more ships than the ones that are listed in the blog right now. There will be free ships, Dilithium ships, and ZEN ships available.
Additionally, we'll have more dev blogs - including discussing more stats - as we get closer to launch.
My only hope and prayer is that the DD is not just a Copy and Paste of the Klingon Negh'var/Tor'khat. :mad:
Don't worry, they said in the blog that it turns worse and has same firepower like Galaxy. So 5 turn, 2 tac consoles. You will get your DHCs tho :P
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Please tell me these are just an example of a free ship from each tier? I don't want to be forced to use another factions ships just to actually have some choice. I mean, even the klingons get a full three/six options for each tier and they hardly get anything!
Also, don't just say 'there are multiple free ships at each tier' if those other choices are ally's ships. Taking a Bird of Prey from the klingons does not count as a free romulan ship.
*sigh* Honestly, after Dan's comments in the last blog, I'd been changing my mind and thinking that you might not be ruining romulans afterall, but this isn't really helping.
I know you need money, and having ships in the C-store is fine, but we should at least be able to have an actual choice of ship at each tier. Especially since this current progression takes us from 'king of the game escorts' down to 'joke ship snail cruisers' as we level.
Interesting read, this glaringly terrifying tidbit caught my eye.
Romulan ships tend to be large and heavy, making them somewhat slower and less maneuverable than comparable Federation and Klingon Defense Force ships. The iconic D?deridex, for example, is larger and more resilient than the Galaxy ? but considerably slower as a result.
Slower than a Galaxy...
Do you guys not read the constant and ever present complaints about low turn rates and how awful it is in every aspect of this game?
Or how about the universally agreed upon fact that KDF Battle cruisers almost totally outclass Fed cruisers due to massively better turn rates? At some point you guys need to come to grips with the fact that a few thousand extra hull is not nearly as big a boost as you seem to think it is.
If you really want the Romulan faction to be profitable, you're going to need a better product to sell than "slower than a Galaxy".
I really hope that this blog is just fluffly flavor text.
Interesting read, this glaringly terrifying tidbit caught my eye.
Romulan ships tend to be large and heavy, making them somewhat slower and less maneuverable than comparable Federation and Klingon Defense Force ships. The iconic D?deridex, for example, is larger and more resilient than the Galaxy ? but considerably slower as a result.
Slower than a Galaxy...
Do you guys not read the constant and ever present complaints about low turn rates and how awful it is in every aspect of this game?
Or how about the universally agreed upon fact that KDF Battle cruisers almost totally outclass Fed cruisers due to massively better turn rates? At some point you guys need to come to grips with the fact that a few thousand extra hull is not nearly as big a boost as you seem to think it is.
If you really want the Romulan faction to be profitable, you're going to need a better product to sell than "slower than a Galaxy".
I really hope that this blog is just fluffly flavor text.
What do you mean "fluffly flavor text"? How could they justify DD with better turn rate and firepower than Galaxy ? Maybe they actually need release this horrible DD, so the forums explode and they finally realize that low turn rate makes ships extremely unfun.
"Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
if they do it i'm sure it will be watered down from a 'god' ship. but I really hope they never put a romulan ship in a lockbox.
Since they've already stated they are, this hope will only lead to disappointment. Instead, I suggest you should either figure out how to come to terms with this, or express your reasons as to why it's not in PWE's best interest to do this.
Lockboxes aren't going anywhere; a great many people like them very much, and enjoy giving PWE money for them.
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Only one ship per tier... Disappointment! That T5 this is disgusting ugly! I sure hope we eventually get to see the T1 ship as a T5.5 and a heck of a lot more ship choices per tier. This half a faction is starting to look more and more like it's not even a quarter faction.
As Brandon already noted, we'll definitely have more ships than the ones that are listed in the blog right now. There will be free ships, Dilithium ships, and ZEN ships available.
Additionally, we'll have more dev blogs - including discussing more stats - as we get closer to launch.
I couldn't find anything with any of the ones mentioned that I wouldn't want to have LOL Those are freaking awesome looking ships and what was said about them is what I would expect
A question that hasn't been asked yet: will these Romulan ships get unique Romulan bridges? Will there be similar "free" bridge types like there are for the Federation and the KDF?
Since they've already stated they are, this hope will only lead to disappointment. Instead, I suggest you should either figure out how to come to terms with this, or express your reasons as to why it's not in PWE's best interest to do this.
Lockboxes aren't going anywhere; a great many people like them very much, and enjoy giving PWE money for them.
what? so they stated the scimitar is a playable ship yet?? nope.
so they have they confirmed that a future 'possibility' of a romulan lockbox with a romulan ship for any1 regardless of faction?? nope.
so yeah community moderator. thanks for your suggestion but i'm fully aware of what has been said so far.... obviously more than you. as neither has been confirmed..... yet :P
Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
I bet there only one ship for free per tied and all other of same tied be choose of C-store ship (price tag at $25 even if it should be $10 ) or use one your Ally ship at the level. Reason for this PWE force Cryptic to do this as PWE doesn't give a damn about this game only how to get money.
If this not the case tell us and show use proof .I for one well use the $80 to buy Zen if you can.
Well from what I understood, every ship from this blog will have her T5 variant.
And that also not all availible ships for the Romulans are portrayed in this blog. I for one am still looking forward for the Valdore from the LoR website that was not portrayed in this blog.
Also looks like we're going to get more options:
My concern was related to the lack of free ships of each class. None of my char is flying one (except the level 10 one i never play), but i have a lot of F2P friends who buy ships very rarely and need time to do that, so most of them will pick the fat whale with no turnrate, even if they play tac or sci. The lack of such basic free option is a bit disheartening. I mean, I myself pay when i enjoy a game, not when i feel forced to. That's why i'm a lifer.
I already have my fleet ship modules, 2.5k zen and most of the low level kdf ships unlocked, but If my only option when i started playing STO had been a T5 ship like this one (I anticipate something like a voquv with no pets) i think i wouldn't be there anymore. Being forced to fly a crappy ship makes a crappy game experience. And I fear some of the silver guys i enjoy playing with will just scrap playing the LoR expansion for this very reason. I could be wrong but i heard their skepticism on our fleet TS.
so from the sound of this dev blog, Romulans will have the choice of one ship at each level. Man that's even worse than the Klingons had it. We at least had some choices at each level even if we couldn't change how it looked.
So Romulans are getting ships that cloak and don't turn well. Why is everyone surprised? Its good news that Cryptic has a theme for the pseudo factions ships. If you didn't see lack of ships coming when they announced the alliance system, well I just don't know what to say.
What I want is more details on the
1)Singularity Core
2)Romulan cloak being the same as KDF cloak or different
3)weapons for Romulans.
No one seems to notice that in game Romulan reputation system hands out plasma energy weapons, yet the blog clearly states that Romulans use disruptors and plasma weaponry. The current Romulan 3 piece set is subpar. I'm still holding out hope that Romulans can use much improved plasma torpedos, because immersion kinda requires that Romulans dont decloak and hit people with quantums or cannons. A decloaking beam boat is laughable and with global torp CD, how is anyone going to fear Warbirds without cannons.
so from the sound of this dev blog, Romulans will have the choice of one ship at each level. Man that's even worse than the Klingons had it. We at least had some choices at each level even if we couldn't change how it looked.
If you think Cryptic put the ally system to make money off ships people already paid for...you have not been paying attention on how they make money....from what I'm seeing there will be a lot more C store Romulan ships coming than free.
There are ships missing from the list that are in Tribble like the T'varo light warbird...Aka Enterprise BOP.
Are we going to have Veteran and Lifetime rewards from the off with the Romulans, Like uniforms, Ships and everything else you get with the other factions?
Are we going to have Veteran and Lifetime rewards from the off with the Romulans, Like uniforms, Ships and everything else you get with the other factions?
Not sure about "from the off". As I understand it, they are talking about Vet/lifer rewards, but nothing concrete has been said/decided. My guess is some things might be slightly after launch (like Liberated Borg Romulans), but probably nothing at launch.
Interesting read, this glaringly terrifying tidbit caught my eye.
Romulan ships tend to be large and heavy, making them somewhat slower and less maneuverable than comparable Federation and Klingon Defense Force ships. The iconic D?deridex, for example, is larger and more resilient than the Galaxy ? but considerably slower as a result.
Slower than a Galaxy...
Do you guys not read the constant and ever present complaints about low turn rates and how awful it is in every aspect of this game?
Or how about the universally agreed upon fact that KDF Battle cruisers almost totally outclass Fed cruisers due to massively better turn rates? At some point you guys need to come to grips with the fact that a few thousand extra hull is not nearly as big a boost as you seem to think it is.
If you really want the Romulan faction to be profitable, you're going to need a better product to sell than "slower than a Galaxy".
I really hope that this blog is just fluffly flavor text.
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Edit: If Romulans get the Scimitar, Feds should get the Typhoon or Jupiter. And Klingons should get... something. Maybe the mirror universe super-size Negh'var?
My only hope and prayer is that the DD is not just a Copy and Paste of the Klingon Negh'var/Tor'khat. :mad:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Well from what I understood, every ship from this blog will have her T5 variant.
And that also not all availible ships for the Romulans are portrayed in this blog. I for one am still looking forward for the Valdore from the LoR website that was not portrayed in this blog.
Also looks like we're going to get more options:
Don't worry, they said in the blog that it turns worse and has same firepower like Galaxy. So 5 turn, 2 tac consoles. You will get your DHCs tho :P
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=9068651#post9068651
Also, don't just say 'there are multiple free ships at each tier' if those other choices are ally's ships. Taking a Bird of Prey from the klingons does not count as a free romulan ship.
*sigh* Honestly, after Dan's comments in the last blog, I'd been changing my mind and thinking that you might not be ruining romulans afterall, but this isn't really helping.
I know you need money, and having ships in the C-store is fine, but we should at least be able to have an actual choice of ship at each tier. Especially since this current progression takes us from 'king of the game escorts' down to 'joke ship snail cruisers' as we level.
Do you guys not read the constant and ever present complaints about low turn rates and how awful it is in every aspect of this game?
Or how about the universally agreed upon fact that KDF Battle cruisers almost totally outclass Fed cruisers due to massively better turn rates? At some point you guys need to come to grips with the fact that a few thousand extra hull is not nearly as big a boost as you seem to think it is.
If you really want the Romulan faction to be profitable, you're going to need a better product to sell than "slower than a Galaxy".
I really hope that this blog is just fluffly flavor text.
What do you mean "fluffly flavor text"? How could they justify DD with better turn rate and firepower than Galaxy ? Maybe they actually need release this horrible DD, so the forums explode and they finally realize that low turn rate makes ships extremely unfun.
Probably will be as a shuttle.
Since they've already stated they are, this hope will only lead to disappointment. Instead, I suggest you should either figure out how to come to terms with this, or express your reasons as to why it's not in PWE's best interest to do this.
Lockboxes aren't going anywhere; a great many people like them very much, and enjoy giving PWE money for them.
Where's the Griffin ?
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I couldn't find anything with any of the ones mentioned that I wouldn't want to have LOL
what? so they stated the scimitar is a playable ship yet?? nope.
so they have they confirmed that a future 'possibility' of a romulan lockbox with a romulan ship for any1 regardless of faction?? nope.
so yeah community moderator. thanks for your suggestion but i'm fully aware of what has been said so far.... obviously more than you. as neither has been confirmed..... yet :P
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/0/03/D%27deridex_initial_design_sketches.jpg
The Shuttle from the new Romulus pad
In the Activision Vaults. Sadly it seems Cryptic's license with CBS doesn't give them access to the ships used in other games.
Would have loved to see some of the Armada ships fleshed out with better models.
If this not the case tell us and show use proof .I for one well use the $80 to buy Zen if you can.
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I can still fight.
I will never give up!
My concern was related to the lack of free ships of each class. None of my char is flying one (except the level 10 one i never play), but i have a lot of F2P friends who buy ships very rarely and need time to do that, so most of them will pick the fat whale with no turnrate, even if they play tac or sci. The lack of such basic free option is a bit disheartening. I mean, I myself pay when i enjoy a game, not when i feel forced to. That's why i'm a lifer.
I already have my fleet ship modules, 2.5k zen and most of the low level kdf ships unlocked, but If my only option when i started playing STO had been a T5 ship like this one (I anticipate something like a voquv with no pets) i think i wouldn't be there anymore. Being forced to fly a crappy ship makes a crappy game experience.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
What I want is more details on the
1)Singularity Core
2)Romulan cloak being the same as KDF cloak or different
3)weapons for Romulans.
No one seems to notice that in game Romulan reputation system hands out plasma energy weapons, yet the blog clearly states that Romulans use disruptors and plasma weaponry. The current Romulan 3 piece set is subpar. I'm still holding out hope that Romulans can use much improved plasma torpedos, because immersion kinda requires that Romulans dont decloak and hit people with quantums or cannons. A decloaking beam boat is laughable and with global torp CD, how is anyone going to fear Warbirds without cannons.
Plus the klingons have their own faction.
There are ships missing from the list that are in Tribble like the T'varo light warbird...Aka Enterprise BOP.
Not sure about "from the off". As I understand it, they are talking about Vet/lifer rewards, but nothing concrete has been said/decided. My guess is some things might be slightly after launch (like Liberated Borg Romulans), but probably nothing at launch.
This really can't be emphasized enough.