Soo, what i'm getting from this is that the Romulan faction will be a full Faction except when it comes to:
- PvP, which I never cared about
- Starbases, on which I'm burned out already
- PvE queues, which is good for waiting times
In short: A faction without all the annoying baggage.
Bring it on then!
Greens joining Red/Blue is pretty much a non-issue, since we have had ceasefires ever since Gamma Orionis, which is approximately the point in the timeline where Romulan players will have caught up to current events.
So, yeah, there is a war, but nobody is fighting anymore. No civil war necessary.
Not just that - you're also getting:
D'deridex and warbirds orbiting ESD and Qo'noS
Romulans and Remans running around Starfleet/KDF Academy
Klingon and Federation banners every time you visit 'your' starbase
Elite Fed Phasers and KDF Disruptors at end-game
MACO/Honor Guard Armor for your Romulan
Feds and KDF flying Romulan ships
Romulans flying Fed and KDF ships and Bugs, Chel Grett etc.
The same end-game grind, STFs and rewards as everyone else plus Tholian Rep
Alien hybrids unnecessarily locked behind Gold/LTS subscriptions
Playing a bunch of the same old Featured Episodes again to get from 40-50
Grinding Nomulus again
Having to finish T5 Rom Rep to get a Reman
A ship full of KDF/Fed Doffs since you have to use factional Doff packs
Yes, you'll get some missions that will clumsily try to explain why you're now a stooge of the Federation or the Klingons and yes, you'll have a social zone and a range of ships and costumes exclusive to the Roms, what you won't have is any reason for Cryptic to give you any more than that once the initial rush of new players has died down.
so what happens when u do release rommy starbase? does that mean the romuloan toon we lvled and picked a side is stuck in thet factions base or can we leave it join a full romulan base. or is it we have to roll a new toon?
It's never going to happen. Splitting the Roms off means making this a 3-faction game and if they don't have the resources or the time to do it now, they never will. Stahl's just doing what he always does - making vague assurances of considering what the players want when in fact he has no intention of the Romulans ever becoming an independent faction.
D'deridex and warbirds orbiting ESD and Qo'noS
Romulans and Remans running around Starfleet/KDF Academy
I don't mind these, I just beamed down from Sol where I was sat next to a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought, a ship from the future and a Defiant with half a Borg cube hanging out of the deflector.
And I won't even mention the strippers, I mean virtuous Starfleet officer's, sprinting around ESD.
I don't mind these, I just beamed down from Sol where I was sat next to a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought, a ship from the future and a Defiant with half a Borg cube hanging out of the deflector.
And I won't even mention the strippers, I mean virtuous Starfleet officer's, sprinting around ESD.
It's just a further dilution of any notion of factions in this game - eventually Qo'noS and ESD will be one and the same - maybe some people want that, but I think anything that takes character and contrast away from the two factions is a loss for the players.
I don't mind these, I just beamed down from Sol where I was sat next to a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought, a ship from the future and a Defiant with half a Borg cube hanging out of the deflector.
And I won't even mention the strippers, I mean virtuous Starfleet officer's, sprinting around ESD.
I really hope we don't get some romulan lockbox or romulan fleet ships for fed or kdf characters. I guess that's the "plan b" if not enough people start creating romulan characters. I wouldn't like seeing that happening though. People flying romulan ships is silly. Feds or kdf getting some new ships with romulan tech could be enough.
The Romulan Republic storyline is a prequel to the events of the Romulan FE series and the establishment of New Romulus.
I think this is part of the problem, you're basically telling the story of a prequel before having finished the main story. This sort of story would be great to flesh out events but to do so at this point in STO's life, where we haven't had any progress in the game's main story in years can only result in players not caring very much from a narrative perspective.
The other BIG issue, and arguably the most important is that players wanting to play as Romulans don't want to play as "Romulan adventurers" working to rebuild their shattered government. They wanted to be part of the RSE, ideally one reunited and on the rise, ans set AFTER the events of the Romulan FE. So not only did they want it placed in the continuation of the story, they wanted to play as the traditional Romulan Military, extra points if they even got to be part of a de-Iconianized Tal-Shiar.
LoR sounds like letting players play as humans.... that aren't part of Starfleet. It'd be a fantastic option to play something like a Maquis or Freedom Fighter, but only with the Starfleet option already available.
I understand a full third faction is untenable, and many of us were wondering how it'd be done. We mostyl expected a mini faction that would require only the ocational upkeep, what you're delivering is not what people were wanting. We'll all play thanks to the lack of content, but I honestly do not see any long term viability unless its purely for the toys it has available to it, making it lacking any sort of fan following.
Wrong, I have three KDF characters. and I don't mind the "lack" of content as it is now. Don't assume that some people don't play one faction or not. As I said earlier in this thread, I am excited for the May update, "flaws" and all.
Thing is, once all the Romulan content has been done, what's a Romulan player left with?
A Kumari or an Excelsior, a crew full of Federation Boffs and Doffs, a blue starbase hung with Fed banners and fighting KDF (and Roms) in PvP or siding with them in Cure space.
Oh, and a social zone and some costumes.
And then any future content added will be faction-agnostic.
So really - what's the point in playing a Romulan?
Other than marketing of course - which is the real and only point of this exercise.
Thing is, once all the Romulan content has been done, what's a Romulan player left with?
A Kumari or an Excelsior, a crew full of Federation Boffs and Doffs, a blue starbase hung with Fed banners and fighting KDF (and Roms) in PvP or siding with them in Cure space.
Oh, and a social zone and some costumes.
And then any future content added will be faction-agnostic.
So really - what's the point in playing a Romulan?
Other than marketing of course - which is the real and only point of this exercise.
Agreed it would of been better to offer the Romulan race in the c-store and their ships in lock boxes, they would of made a lot more money. This whole "faction"is a joke. All this effort and hard work could of went towards expanding federation gameplay and maybe give the KDF players a little something.
- couple of my Romulan-die-hard-fans friends and me planned on a Romulan fleet. This is not happening now as there is no sense = no starbases, no DOFF's. We are looking forward to the time you will have the resources to provide these systems.
In the meantime we decided to join another fleet with our future Romulan toons and help out a little.
#1 question: if our Romulan toons have different allegiances, will we still be able to play the end-game content (factional fleet actions) together, or will we be have to queue up for the faction we are allied with - separately?
#1.1 question: haven't you considered yet to make these fleet actions queues CROSS FACTIONal? It would be just an issue of renaming the KDF/FED enemies to "rebels", or eliminating these 2 enemy types altogether (we do have enough other species)
#3 question: i would really like to hear more about that faction-exclusive social hub we are getting.
#4 question: will there be a Romulan exclusive foundry where Romulans/Remans of BOTH ALLEGIANCES can join a mission together?
#5 question: when the time comes and there finally be the systems described on the top available to Romulans, what will happen with the allied toons? Will they get a mini-mission to "defect" and rejoin "Romulan Republic" or however you will call it?
Will they be able to keep the FED/KDF ships and DOFF's? Or only the ones they are using and which they have in the inventory?
#6 are you revamping the accolades UI? will there be Romulan only accolades?
#7 from what i understood you are NOT giving Romulans fleet ships, as there are no fleets. Did i understood this right? (think it is actually a good decision, cause it points to Romulan fleet holdings to be released soon, as in 2013)
#8 when will we get some infos on the upcoming ships?
#9 are Suliban planned to be the next playable race available to Romulans?
#10 will there be a Romulan TOS pack featuringNO V-shaped ridge above the bridge of their nose, also seen in the new JJ film?
Also, i would like to make a proposal. Why don't you just create a generic green Starbase/Embassy map, where you can only switch textures and NPC'S for every in the future incoming faction?
Also, with Romulans being the 3rd biggest faction in Star Trek, i think you should stop here, and every other faction is OK having to join any of the 3 existing factions, or a "4th faction", which would get the "generic" fleet holding map with a texture of their choosing (you can charge big Dillithium for this).
This 4th faction would be an united pool for all upcoming "factions".
They could use ANY DOFF packs, and would also have access to all DOFF assignments.
Every new faction should keep the exclusivity to their ships, so that you have to lvl a toon to get a ship.
QUEUE problems. Now i see how a cross faction PVP and PVE is necessary in these times.
Please, make it a reality soon. for EVERY fleet action. I haven't been able to join Big Dig, or Breaking The Planet AT ALL on my KDF toon, while my son plays it twice an afternoon on his fed captain.
Also, thank you for giving us the opportunity to finally play as Romulan, even if, franky, i will try to get rid of D'Tan in a very unpleasant way every time i meet him on New Romulus. (and you should add the emote "it's a FAAAAKE")
Silly? If the Romulan Republic was a faction without starbases, that'd be one thing.
They're not a faction *at all*, they're split between the two existing factions, working for them. That they have race-exclusive ships and a race-exclusive story arc is meaningless, it just makes them a fancier version of playable Federation Klingons.
This statement just blows my mind. About a year ago the forums were screaming and chanting "Content Content Content" and you just called and entire faction's worth of content meaningless.....
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This statement just blows my mind. About a year ago the forums were screaming and chanting "Content Content Content" and you just called and entire faction's worth of content meaningless.....
Also apparently having a starbase means you're a faction....guess Season 6 made the FED a full faction.
Looks like the RR got the best deal that both the KDF, and FED don't have
FEDs always positing how they want KDF ships, because they want the battle cloak...well RR got that over the FEDs... KDF ship access and their own ships.
KDF wanted story to get them to end game content which has always been the same for both factions. KDF just got cut in half at 20 to get them there.....RR get their own from 1-40 then get to start on the FE and the end game from 40-50 just like FED.
the RR just don't get the sinks that both factions keep complaining about.
I don't care what anyone says the RR pretty much got what the other factions have been begging for 3 years.
Cryptic has manipulated the circumstances with the skill of a Romulan.:D
This statement just blows my mind. About a year ago the forums were screaming and chanting "Content Content Content" and you just called and entire faction's worth of content meaningless.....
they have only done that because of the end result, a ripped apart faction. it's like having the kdf in reverse. roms get the content from 1-50 that you wont play again or at least are unlikely to. and basically have no end game. but joining the 2 current factions so you can fight themselves in the kdf vs fed war yet they are meant to be in the same faction?!?!:eek:
This statement just blows my mind. About a year ago the forums were screaming and chanting "Content Content Content" and you just called and entire faction's worth of content meaningless.....
More content=good.
But this implementation is just... bizarre.
A bunch of new Romulan-orientated missions that take a new character from 1-40 - none of these missions are available to Feds or KDF through their journal but Roms can invite their faction allies to join them in (re)doing those.
Once a Romulan is done with those, 40-50 is the same old FE's, Defera, Nukara and Nomulus.
KDF get... well... we don't know yet - we know we're getting some missions as well as the tutorial and then there's talk of this 'Nimbus Adventure Zone' *shudder* which I suspect will be new end-game grinding for both factions.
On top of that I imagine there'll be some faction-agnostic FE-type stuff for the Feds and KDF.
All that's kind-of neat - and it's a lot of work - and I suppose it puts everything on an even footing for all future missions being identical irrespective of who you play (which I *hate* btw - so lazy) but is the game really any better for all this effort?
And the Romulans aren't a faction at all - just a bit of backstory that we need to create a new character to experience. All their introduction really achieves is allowing Cryptic to stick Romulan ships in the C-Store/lockboxes.
they have only done that because of the end result, a ripped apart faction. it's like having the kdf in reverse. roms get the content from 1-50 that you wont play again or at least are unlikely to. and basically have no end game. but joining the 2 current factions so you can fight themselves in the kdf vs fed war yet they are meant to be in the same faction?!?!:eek:
hows that work?? it don't really dose it :P
What end game does the KDF and FED have that is so unique...they both have the same they both helping each other fight the borg...they have nothing special over each other.
Hell I did not expect Cryptic to even give 1-40 content...i was expecting 40-50 and join KDF...hell I did not see a faction coming ever.
and as a KDF player...I rather have had the 1-40 stuff over the end game TRIBBLE...instead of starting from 20-50 having to play as a Fed to unlock the KDF.
You know...if I remember correctly The.Grand.Nagus once had a poll about "mini factions" and if people would be willing to accept the Romulans as a mini faction. I seem to remember most people participating in that poll just wanting playable Romulans in the game in any shape or form be it mini faction or not. I'm going to have to go back through the forums and see if I can find it. Does anyone else remember that or know where it is off hand?
You know...if I remember correctly The.Grand.Nagus once had a poll about "mini factions" and if people would be willing to accept the Romulans as a mini faction. I seem to remember most people participating in that poll just wanting playable Romulans in the game in any shape or form be it mini faction or not. I'm going to have to go back through the forums and see if I can find it. Does anyone else remember that or know where it is off hand?
im more then likely on that poll saying I didn't and saw others say we don't want romulan lapdogs I can tell you of another poll I did the same thing it was one by cryptic and ask vote for playable romulans again said I did not want lapdogs
You know...if I remember correctly The.Grand.Nagus once had a poll about "mini factions" and if people would be willing to accept the Romulans as a mini faction. I seem to remember most people participating in that poll just wanting playable Romulans in the game in any shape or form be it mini faction or not. I'm going to have to go back through the forums and see if I can find it. Does anyone else remember that or know where it is off hand?
If I recall people called the kdf a mini faction and that's what they thought a mini faction was when voting. Which was content short but their own people fighting their own battles not getting split in 2 and fighting each other in some one else's war:eek:
What end game does the KDF and FED have that is so unique...they both have the same they both helping each other fight the borg...they have nothing special over each other.
A unique sense of identity.
And whilst I shudder to call it content, they have the Excelsior, they have the B'rel, they have faction-appropriate Boffs they can customize - they have Diplomacy and Marauding, they have a storyline that pits them as enemies even if at times they're required to cooperate - and yes, they have unique starbases.
End-game Romulans are going to be a faction without an identity - they'll have their social zone and they'll have their ships (which the Feds and the KDF will have too) and they'll have some unique costume options but other than that they're a Fed or a KDF in all but name.
For some players that'll be enough - in fact, it'll be more than enough because if they want to fly a B'rel they'll be able to. But for those that wanted to play the Romulans of the TV show - well, they're not even being offered that option.
Yes, I would be satisfied with "mini-factions"
68%
225 votes
No, I want each faction to be fully developed with full faction specific content
32%
105 votes
330 Total Votes
Granted that's not an official poll and only comprised of people who happened to see that thread at the time, but just off of that it seems that a decent number of people were okay with Rommies just being a mini faction. Interesting.
Which I'm sure they were doing back in the days of the Domuinion War when the Roms were ALLIES of the Feds VS the Dominion
Romulans and Remans running around Starfleet/KDF Academy
See above. Plus it just means my Reman bridge officer and Duty Officers that I already have will have more of their own people to socialize with.
Klingon and Federation banners every time you visit 'your' starbase
If I'm Romulan it will never be my starbase; just a Starbase I'm using to further my people's goals.
Elite Fed Phasers and KDF Disruptors at end-game
Yeah, like we don't already have members of all factions ALREADY using a variety of weapons types (IE Klingons using phasers and plasma weapon; Feds using Disruptors and Plasma weapons, etc.)
MACO/Honor Guard Armor for your Romulan
Again, if the tech is good, take it - hell the Feds stole a cloaking device all the way back in the TOS era
Feds and KDF flying Romulan ships
Romulans flying Fed and KDF ships and Bugs, Chel Grett etc.
Go watch the DS9 episode "The Die is Cast" - funny that the Romulans had no issues giving command of a Warbird to a Cardassian Enabran Tain as they allied with the Cardassians to attack the Founders and Jem Hadar. Also as I recall during MOST of DS9 Season 5 Gul Dukat was flying a Klingon Bird of Prey. So, yeah, no canon in Star trek of various factions using ship/equipment of other factions...oh, wait...
The same end-game grind, STFs and rewards as everyone else plus Tholian Rep
Alien hybrids unnecessarily locked behind Gold/LTS subscriptions
Playing a bunch of the same old Featured Episodes again to get from 40-50
Grinding Nomulus again
Having to finish T5 Rom Rep to get a Reman
A ship full of KDF/Fed Doffs since you have to use factional Doff packs
Yes, awful that bthey want to players who may decide to ONLY make a Romulan access to ALL the content available to all the other factions. I'm sure this will TRIBBLE off Romulan players no end.:rolleyes:
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How much did the fact that you (the devs) want to keep pvp a two-faction deal influence the decision to have the playable Romulans tag on to the existing factions? Because I strongly believe that gameplay should NOT influence story - it should be the other way around. I hope keeping pvp as two-faction didn't influence the decision, but if it did - why not just eliminate the faction queues, and have one "join pvp" button where everyone that queues just gets split up on two teams?
Oh please, you're the worst of the Cryptic apologists on this forum - it's thanks to people like you that Cryptic (falsely) thinks it can inflict things like Season 7 on the player-base without consequence.
If you actually gave a TRIBBLE about Trek, this game or its players you wouldn't be posting pro-Cryptic drivel like this - you'd either keep your ill-considered thoughts to yourself or at least acknowledge the fact that the Romulans as a race in Star Trek deserve more than being grafted on to the Feds/KDF.
And whilst I shudder to call it content, they have the Excelsior, they have the B'rel, they have faction-appropriate Boffs they can customize - they have Diplomacy and Marauding, they have a storyline that pits them as enemies even if at times they're required to cooperate - and yes, they have unique starbases.
End-game Romulans are going to be a faction without an identity - they'll have their social zone and they'll have their ships (which the Feds and the KDF will have too) and they'll have some unique costume options but other than that they're a Fed or a KDF in all but name.
For some players that'll be enough - in fact, it'll be more than enough because if they want to fly a B'rel they'll be able to. But for those that wanted to play the Romulans of the TV show - well, they're not even being offered that option.
Sooo the Romulans will be what the game was pre season 6 with a little extra AWESOME!!!!!!!!
Oh please, you're the worst of the Cryptic apologists on this forum - it's thanks to people like you that Cryptic (falsely) thinks it can inflict things like Season 7 on the player-base without consequence.
If you actually gave a TRIBBLE about Trek, this game or its players you wouldn't be posting pro-Cryptic drivel like this - you'd either keep your ill-considered thoughts to yourself or at least acknowledge the fact that the Romulans as a race in Star Trek deserve more than being grafted on to the Feds/KDF.
lol, wow hate to break it to you but a person can disagree with you and still love Trek
Sooo the Romulans will be what the game was pre season 6 with a little extra AWESOME!!!!!!!!
sounds like a faction to me. SWEET!!!:cool:
Its not a real faction, the player base split between two other factions. Romulan fleets if any will be few because no one is going to leave their current fleets. This is a "Alt" faction.
Its not a real faction, the player base split between two other factions. Romulan fleets if any will be few because no one is going to leave their current fleets. This is a "Alt" faction.
How are the player bases split if players want to hang out at ESD or FC that's one them, but they will get their own hub to hang out...as stated the RR is not answering to Quinn or the other guy.
How are the player bases split if players want to hang out at ESD or FC that's one them, but they will get their own hub to hang out...as stated the RR is not answering to Quinn or the other guy.
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Not just that - you're also getting:
D'deridex and warbirds orbiting ESD and Qo'noS
Romulans and Remans running around Starfleet/KDF Academy
Klingon and Federation banners every time you visit 'your' starbase
Elite Fed Phasers and KDF Disruptors at end-game
MACO/Honor Guard Armor for your Romulan
Feds and KDF flying Romulan ships
Romulans flying Fed and KDF ships and Bugs, Chel Grett etc.
The same end-game grind, STFs and rewards as everyone else plus Tholian Rep
Alien hybrids unnecessarily locked behind Gold/LTS subscriptions
Playing a bunch of the same old Featured Episodes again to get from 40-50
Grinding Nomulus again
Having to finish T5 Rom Rep to get a Reman
A ship full of KDF/Fed Doffs since you have to use factional Doff packs
Yes, you'll get some missions that will clumsily try to explain why you're now a stooge of the Federation or the Klingons and yes, you'll have a social zone and a range of ships and costumes exclusive to the Roms, what you won't have is any reason for Cryptic to give you any more than that once the initial rush of new players has died down.
It's never going to happen. Splitting the Roms off means making this a 3-faction game and if they don't have the resources or the time to do it now, they never will. Stahl's just doing what he always does - making vague assurances of considering what the players want when in fact he has no intention of the Romulans ever becoming an independent faction.
I don't mind these, I just beamed down from Sol where I was sat next to a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought, a ship from the future and a Defiant with half a Borg cube hanging out of the deflector.
And I won't even mention the strippers, I mean virtuous Starfleet officer's, sprinting around ESD.
It's just a further dilution of any notion of factions in this game - eventually Qo'noS and ESD will be one and the same - maybe some people want that, but I think anything that takes character and contrast away from the two factions is a loss for the players.
I couldn't help but laugh, so true.
Okay, okay, so we'll cloak our warbirds to not ruin the beautifull purple aestheics of the Jem'Hadar fleet guarding ESD. :P
Romulans & Remans?!?
If I log on to ESD now, I can meet Santa Claus & Spiderman, you really think at this point Romulans & Remans would trouble me?
This post was just for lolz
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I think this is part of the problem, you're basically telling the story of a prequel before having finished the main story. This sort of story would be great to flesh out events but to do so at this point in STO's life, where we haven't had any progress in the game's main story in years can only result in players not caring very much from a narrative perspective.
The other BIG issue, and arguably the most important is that players wanting to play as Romulans don't want to play as "Romulan adventurers" working to rebuild their shattered government. They wanted to be part of the RSE, ideally one reunited and on the rise, ans set AFTER the events of the Romulan FE. So not only did they want it placed in the continuation of the story, they wanted to play as the traditional Romulan Military, extra points if they even got to be part of a de-Iconianized Tal-Shiar.
LoR sounds like letting players play as humans.... that aren't part of Starfleet. It'd be a fantastic option to play something like a Maquis or Freedom Fighter, but only with the Starfleet option already available.
I understand a full third faction is untenable, and many of us were wondering how it'd be done. We mostyl expected a mini faction that would require only the ocational upkeep, what you're delivering is not what people were wanting. We'll all play thanks to the lack of content, but I honestly do not see any long term viability unless its purely for the toys it has available to it, making it lacking any sort of fan following.
We had mixed fleets hanging around Fed Starbases during the Dominion war as well. No one cried about that.
It's my friends' starbase not mine. What do I care how they decorate it? There are Romulan Disruptors too, you know? Disable Visuals Didn't get that from the Blog. Not exactly an issue that would be new to the game. LoR is not to blame for that. Yep, just like in any other MMO. Perfectly normal. Payers have been demanding more benefits for ages, so cut Cryptic some slack, maybe? Comes with playing an alt. You don't have to. Only if you actually want one. Besides, there never was a whole lot of racial variety in the Romulan Empire in the first place. There are Romulan, Reman and Hirogen Doffs already ingame. I'm sure there will be more.
Thing is, once all the Romulan content has been done, what's a Romulan player left with?
A Kumari or an Excelsior, a crew full of Federation Boffs and Doffs, a blue starbase hung with Fed banners and fighting KDF (and Roms) in PvP or siding with them in Cure space.
Oh, and a social zone and some costumes.
And then any future content added will be faction-agnostic.
So really - what's the point in playing a Romulan?
Other than marketing of course - which is the real and only point of this exercise.
Agreed it would of been better to offer the Romulan race in the c-store and their ships in lock boxes, they would of made a lot more money. This whole "faction"is a joke. All this effort and hard work could of went towards expanding federation gameplay and maybe give the KDF players a little something.
- couple of my Romulan-die-hard-fans friends and me planned on a Romulan fleet. This is not happening now as there is no sense = no starbases, no DOFF's. We are looking forward to the time you will have the resources to provide these systems.
In the meantime we decided to join another fleet with our future Romulan toons and help out a little.
#1 question: if our Romulan toons have different allegiances, will we still be able to play the end-game content (factional fleet actions) together, or will we be have to queue up for the faction we are allied with - separately?
#1.1 question: haven't you considered yet to make these fleet actions queues CROSS FACTIONal? It would be just an issue of renaming the KDF/FED enemies to "rebels", or eliminating these 2 enemy types altogether (we do have enough other species)
#3 question: i would really like to hear more about that faction-exclusive social hub we are getting.
#4 question: will there be a Romulan exclusive foundry where Romulans/Remans of BOTH ALLEGIANCES can join a mission together?
#5 question: when the time comes and there finally be the systems described on the top available to Romulans, what will happen with the allied toons? Will they get a mini-mission to "defect" and rejoin "Romulan Republic" or however you will call it?
Will they be able to keep the FED/KDF ships and DOFF's? Or only the ones they are using and which they have in the inventory?
#6 are you revamping the accolades UI? will there be Romulan only accolades?
#7 from what i understood you are NOT giving Romulans fleet ships, as there are no fleets. Did i understood this right? (think it is actually a good decision, cause it points to Romulan fleet holdings to be released soon, as in 2013)
#8 when will we get some infos on the upcoming ships?
#9 are Suliban planned to be the next playable race available to Romulans?
#10 will there be a Romulan TOS pack featuring NO V-shaped ridge above the bridge of their nose, also seen in the new JJ film?
Also, i would like to make a proposal. Why don't you just create a generic green Starbase/Embassy map, where you can only switch textures and NPC'S for every in the future incoming faction?
Also, with Romulans being the 3rd biggest faction in Star Trek, i think you should stop here, and every other faction is OK having to join any of the 3 existing factions, or a "4th faction", which would get the "generic" fleet holding map with a texture of their choosing (you can charge big Dillithium for this).
This 4th faction would be an united pool for all upcoming "factions".
They could use ANY DOFF packs, and would also have access to all DOFF assignments.
Every new faction should keep the exclusivity to their ships, so that you have to lvl a toon to get a ship.
QUEUE problems. Now i see how a cross faction PVP and PVE is necessary in these times.
Please, make it a reality soon. for EVERY fleet action. I haven't been able to join Big Dig, or Breaking The Planet AT ALL on my KDF toon, while my son plays it twice an afternoon on his fed captain.
Also, thank you for giving us the opportunity to finally play as Romulan, even if, franky, i will try to get rid of D'Tan in a very unpleasant way every time i meet him on New Romulus. (and you should add the emote "it's a FAAAAKE")
Jolan'Tru
This statement just blows my mind. About a year ago the forums were screaming and chanting "Content Content Content" and you just called and entire faction's worth of content meaningless.....
Also apparently having a starbase means you're a faction....guess Season 6 made the FED a full faction.
Looks like the RR got the best deal that both the KDF, and FED don't have
FEDs always positing how they want KDF ships, because they want the battle cloak...well RR got that over the FEDs... KDF ship access and their own ships.
KDF wanted story to get them to end game content which has always been the same for both factions. KDF just got cut in half at 20 to get them there.....RR get their own from 1-40 then get to start on the FE and the end game from 40-50 just like FED.
the RR just don't get the sinks that both factions keep complaining about.
I don't care what anyone says the RR pretty much got what the other factions have been begging for 3 years.
Cryptic has manipulated the circumstances with the skill of a Romulan.:D
they have only done that because of the end result, a ripped apart faction. it's like having the kdf in reverse. roms get the content from 1-50 that you wont play again or at least are unlikely to. and basically have no end game. but joining the 2 current factions so you can fight themselves in the kdf vs fed war yet they are meant to be in the same faction?!?!:eek:
hows that work?? it don't really dose it :P
More content=good.
But this implementation is just... bizarre.
A bunch of new Romulan-orientated missions that take a new character from 1-40 - none of these missions are available to Feds or KDF through their journal but Roms can invite their faction allies to join them in (re)doing those.
Once a Romulan is done with those, 40-50 is the same old FE's, Defera, Nukara and Nomulus.
KDF get... well... we don't know yet - we know we're getting some missions as well as the tutorial and then there's talk of this 'Nimbus Adventure Zone' *shudder* which I suspect will be new end-game grinding for both factions.
On top of that I imagine there'll be some faction-agnostic FE-type stuff for the Feds and KDF.
All that's kind-of neat - and it's a lot of work - and I suppose it puts everything on an even footing for all future missions being identical irrespective of who you play (which I *hate* btw - so lazy) but is the game really any better for all this effort?
And the Romulans aren't a faction at all - just a bit of backstory that we need to create a new character to experience. All their introduction really achieves is allowing Cryptic to stick Romulan ships in the C-Store/lockboxes.
Which perhaps was the point all along.
What end game does the KDF and FED have that is so unique...they both have the same they both helping each other fight the borg...they have nothing special over each other.
Hell I did not expect Cryptic to even give 1-40 content...i was expecting 40-50 and join KDF...hell I did not see a faction coming ever.
and as a KDF player...I rather have had the 1-40 stuff over the end game TRIBBLE...instead of starting from 20-50 having to play as a Fed to unlock the KDF.
Mine Trap Supporter
im more then likely on that poll saying I didn't and saw others say we don't want romulan lapdogs I can tell you of another poll I did the same thing it was one by cryptic and ask vote for playable romulans again said I did not want lapdogs
system Lord Baal is dead
If I recall people called the kdf a mini faction and that's what they thought a mini faction was when voting. Which was content short but their own people fighting their own battles not getting split in 2 and fighting each other in some one else's war:eek:
A unique sense of identity.
And whilst I shudder to call it content, they have the Excelsior, they have the B'rel, they have faction-appropriate Boffs they can customize - they have Diplomacy and Marauding, they have a storyline that pits them as enemies even if at times they're required to cooperate - and yes, they have unique starbases.
End-game Romulans are going to be a faction without an identity - they'll have their social zone and they'll have their ships (which the Feds and the KDF will have too) and they'll have some unique costume options but other than that they're a Fed or a KDF in all but name.
For some players that'll be enough - in fact, it'll be more than enough because if they want to fly a B'rel they'll be able to. But for those that wanted to play the Romulans of the TV show - well, they're not even being offered that option.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=198416&highlight=mini+faction
Yes, I would be satisfied with "mini-factions"
68%
225 votes
No, I want each faction to be fully developed with full faction specific content
32%
105 votes
330 Total Votes
Granted that's not an official poll and only comprised of people who happened to see that thread at the time, but just off of that it seems that a decent number of people were okay with Rommies just being a mini faction. Interesting.
Mine Trap Supporter
Which I'm sure they were doing back in the days of the Domuinion War when the Roms were ALLIES of the Feds VS the Dominion
See above. Plus it just means my Reman bridge officer and Duty Officers that I already have will have more of their own people to socialize with.
If I'm Romulan it will never be my starbase; just a Starbase I'm using to further my people's goals.
Yeah, like we don't already have members of all factions ALREADY using a variety of weapons types (IE Klingons using phasers and plasma weapon; Feds using Disruptors and Plasma weapons, etc.)
Again, if the tech is good, take it - hell the Feds stole a cloaking device all the way back in the TOS era
Go watch the DS9 episode "The Die is Cast" - funny that the Romulans had no issues giving command of a Warbird to a Cardassian Enabran Tain as they allied with the Cardassians to attack the Founders and Jem Hadar. Also as I recall during MOST of DS9 Season 5 Gul Dukat was flying a Klingon Bird of Prey. So, yeah, no canon in Star trek of various factions using ship/equipment of other factions...oh, wait...
Yes, awful that bthey want to players who may decide to ONLY make a Romulan access to ALL the content available to all the other factions. I'm sure this will TRIBBLE off Romulan players no end.:rolleyes:
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Oh please, you're the worst of the Cryptic apologists on this forum - it's thanks to people like you that Cryptic (falsely) thinks it can inflict things like Season 7 on the player-base without consequence.
If you actually gave a TRIBBLE about Trek, this game or its players you wouldn't be posting pro-Cryptic drivel like this - you'd either keep your ill-considered thoughts to yourself or at least acknowledge the fact that the Romulans as a race in Star Trek deserve more than being grafted on to the Feds/KDF.
Sooo the Romulans will be what the game was pre season 6 with a little extra AWESOME!!!!!!!!
sounds like a faction to me. SWEET!!!:cool:
lol, wow hate to break it to you but a person can disagree with you and still love Trek
IDIC fail
Its not a real faction, the player base split between two other factions. Romulan fleets if any will be few because no one is going to leave their current fleets. This is a "Alt" faction.
How are the player bases split if players want to hang out at ESD or FC that's one them, but they will get their own hub to hang out...as stated the RR is not answering to Quinn or the other guy.
they mean the romulan playerbase / fake faction