To an extent, I think it's a case that some of the folks out there did not necessarily want to play Romulans - they wanted to play the RSE.
It would be like folks asking for playable Klingons...and uh, you know - that first mission there - the Klingon farmers?
It's like a genie - have to be careful what you wish for, eh?
They should be happy they're not getting missions from Madran, eh?
Exactly, we are gettign the equivalent of klingon farmers. And while there is nothing is inherently wrong with the concept of Klingon farmers, there would be something wrong if the Klingon faction was a breakaway group of farmers instead of the fearsome, honor-obsessed warriors we have all come to expect when the terms 'Klingon' and 'faction' are used together i nthe context of an MMO.
To an extent, I think it's a case that some of the folks out there did not necessarily want to play Romulans - they wanted to play the RSE.
It would be like folks asking for playable Klingons...and uh, you know - that first mission there - the Klingon farmers?
It's like a genie - have to be careful what you wish for, eh?
They should be happy they're not getting missions from Madran, eh?
My thoughts exactly. It comes down to this:
When you wish for something, be as specific as you can. For any open spaces will be filled with unknown matter.
In this case they (Cryptic) are delivering only in a technical sense, due to severe limitations. Only the Wishmaster can afford something more. And he would not be so compliant in the end. :P
D'tan and his fellow hippies can squat on that radioactive dump of a planet and call it New Romulus all they want, but it doesn't change that they're basically 1% of the entire empire, a bunch of wannabe Vulcans and essentially traitors who are selling the fruits of Romulan science and technology to the hated enemies of the empire for the protection they themselves can't provide.
I sincerely hope the Republic is nothing like them.
When you wish for something, be as specific as you can. For any open spaces will be filled with unknown matter.
In this case they (Cryptic) are delivering only in a technical sense, due to severe limitations. Only the Wishmaster can afford something more. And he would not be so compliant in the end. :P
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Reminds me about all those stories of genies corrupting a Wish:
"I want.....a Romulan faction!"
"Your wish is granted!"
"What....but....these aren't Romulans....these are hippies!"
We tell all the American Federation captains they are communists/liberals
We tell all the British Federation Captains they are republicans
We tell everyone else they are hippies
Meanwhile we tell the Klingons that the Romulans said "dreads are girlie"
I have been in almost every thing from romulan polls to threads and said I don't want a fed/kdf lap dog
"Ah but you see, technically they aren't Fed lapdogs, only inspired by their ideals of personal freedom and liberty to rebel against the oppressive RSE! Technically I granted your wish!"
"So do you want to wish for that Cardassian Faction now?"
D'tan and his fellow hippies can squat on that radioactive dump of a planet and call it New Romulus all they want, but it doesn't change that they're basically 1% of the entire empire, a bunch of wannabe Vulcans and essentially traitors who are selling the fruits of Romulan science and technology to the hated enemies of the empire for the protection they themselves can't provide.
I sincerely hope the Republic is nothing like them.
Qft!!!!!!!
I'll earn my 10char though. Romulus is loosely based on Rome (because Roddenberry wasnt that good) and Sela could be a non-tyrant Caeser and it would still sort of work. But it still needs to be the Roman empire. The group-huggers on New Romulus should be crushed under the boot for daring to use the name if no other reason. Who do they think they are?
"Ah but you see, technically they aren't Fed lapdogs, only inspired by their ideals of personal freedom and liberty to rebel against the oppressive RSE! Technically I granted your wish!"
"So do you want to wish for that Cardassian Faction now?"
they take help from feds kdf so mite as well be lap dogs
any one remember spock asking the Vulcans for help to save the home world? and they reply no? why the hell would any romulan ask for help from any one after that?
lets see I ask Vulcans for help they say no then im going to turn out to be like one 30 some years later I don't see that really happening
I'll earn my 10char though. Romulus is loosely based on Rome (because Roddenberry wasnt that good) and Sela could be a non-tyrant Caeser and it would still sort of work. But it still needs to be the Roman empire. The group-huggers on New Romulus should be crushed under the boot for daring to use the name if no other reason. Who do they think they are?
You do know that Rome was a republic before it was an empire, right? And that even as a republic, it was aggressively expansionistic? That American Republic grew on a concept called Manifest Destiny? That the First French Republic quite ably fought against virtually all the rest of Europe?
I can safely say that there will NEVER be a Borg faction and there is a 99% chance that will never be a dominion faction. You can hope all you want but its not gonna happen.
Seriously the romulan race is xenophobic to the core. The level of propaganda that was distributed over countless years does not rub off overnight. Couple that with the Hobus event still being pretty raw. I honestly think that the romulans we are currently helping would be a small splinter group, nothing more.
That's actually not correct. The Romulan government was isolationist for many years and entirely too many people take that to mean they were 'xenophobic' but the facts just don't support that case.
First and foremost, in TOS the Romulans were prepared to offer Spock, an Alien, full Romulan citizenship. In TOS the Romulans happily signed a treaty with the Klingons that held for about 70 years. in TNG they went back to working with Klingons without a second thought. In DS9 they worked with Cardassians, Humans and Klingons.
There may be some tendency towards Xenophobia, but to say the people are 'xenophobic to the core' is just not substantiated by the evidence. It's an intellectually lazy interpretation that relegates an entire race into some overblown stereotype.
in TNG they went back to working with Klingons without a second thought. In DS9 they worked with Cardassians, Humans and Klingons.
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in TNG that was Sela not the hole star empire do you even get why they where being help from sela so she could start civil war that would put the Klingon off guard to a romulan invasion in DS9 that was The Tal Shiar not The Star Empire they are they C.I.A. of the romulan and that was to stop a founder invasion of the alpha quadrant
only time The Star Empire has work with any one with out a hidden agenda is when they help the Fed's and the KDF defeat The Dominion
only time The Star Empire has work with any one with out a hidden agenda is when they help the Fed's and the KDF defeat The Dominion
And even then only because they became convinced they were next on the Dominion's list.
Before that they were quite content to sit aside and watch the Klingon Empire and the Federation burn.
And even then only because they became convinced they were next on the Dominion's list.
Before that they were quite content to sit aside and watch the Klingon Empire and the Federation burn.
more like tricked into it don't forget garak planted a bomb on that senator shuttle
and I would love for that info to find its way to all romulan not only that but sisko new about it
in TNG that was Sela not the hole star empire do you even get why they where being help from sela so she could start civil war that would put the Klingon off guard to a romulan invasion in DS9 that was The Tal Shiar not The Star Empire they are they C.I.A. of the romulan and that was to stop a founder invasion of the alpha quadrant
only time The Star Empire has work with any one with out a hidden agenda is when they help the Fed's and the KDF defeat The Dominion
And Sela was ofcourse operating alone, with no support or orders from her higher ups. :rolleyes:
As for the Romulans being devious, deceptive, self serving, backstabbing TRIBBLE who only help others to serve some agenda of their own, I won't argue against that. In fact, I don't have too, since that's not the same as being "xenophobic."
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The man is A bit "john lennon"
and the sooner someone puts a phaser on overload in his soup the better
lmfao lololololololololololol
system Lord Baal is dead
My thoughts exactly. It comes down to this:
When you wish for something, be as specific as you can. For any open spaces will be filled with unknown matter.
In this case they (Cryptic) are delivering only in a technical sense, due to severe limitations. Only the Wishmaster can afford something more. And he would not be so compliant in the end. :P
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I sincerely hope the Republic is nothing like them.
"I want.....a Romulan faction!"
"Your wish is granted!"
"What....but....these aren't Romulans....these are hippies!"
"You should have been more specific"
I have been in almost every thing from romulan polls to threads and said I don't want a fed/kdf lap dog
system Lord Baal is dead
We tell all the American Federation captains they are communists/liberals
We tell all the British Federation Captains they are republicans
We tell everyone else they are hippies
Meanwhile we tell the Klingons that the Romulans said "dreads are girlie"
and mop up afterwards
"So do you want to wish for that Cardassian Faction now?"
So be careful what you wish for.
As a deal with a ferengi will never turn out good, but a group of them? bad, very bad..
:P
Qft!!!!!!!
I'll earn my 10char though. Romulus is loosely based on Rome (because Roddenberry wasnt that good) and Sela could be a non-tyrant Caeser and it would still sort of work. But it still needs to be the Roman empire. The group-huggers on New Romulus should be crushed under the boot for daring to use the name if no other reason. Who do they think they are?
they take help from feds kdf so mite as well be lap dogs
any one remember spock asking the Vulcans for help to save the home world? and they reply no? why the hell would any romulan ask for help from any one after that?
lets see I ask Vulcans for help they say no then im going to turn out to be like one 30 some years later I don't see that really happening
just my opinion
system Lord Baal is dead
Sounds adequately Romulan to me.
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You do know that Rome was a republic before it was an empire, right? And that even as a republic, it was aggressively expansionistic? That American Republic grew on a concept called Manifest Destiny? That the First French Republic quite ably fought against virtually all the rest of Europe?
Republic does not automatically mean "hippy".
Oh well, maybe they'll get it right with the Dominion faction or playable Borg faction.
If "spark" is what the man needs, how about this one?;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq-YeD4L-bg
But uh...the RR will be at war with the Feds and KDF.
That's actually not correct. The Romulan government was isolationist for many years and entirely too many people take that to mean they were 'xenophobic' but the facts just don't support that case.
First and foremost, in TOS the Romulans were prepared to offer Spock, an Alien, full Romulan citizenship. In TOS the Romulans happily signed a treaty with the Klingons that held for about 70 years. in TNG they went back to working with Klingons without a second thought. In DS9 they worked with Cardassians, Humans and Klingons.
There may be some tendency towards Xenophobia, but to say the people are 'xenophobic to the core' is just not substantiated by the evidence. It's an intellectually lazy interpretation that relegates an entire race into some overblown stereotype.
in TNG that was Sela not the hole star empire do you even get why they where being help from sela so she could start civil war that would put the Klingon off guard to a romulan invasion in DS9 that was The Tal Shiar not The Star Empire they are they C.I.A. of the romulan and that was to stop a founder invasion of the alpha quadrant
only time The Star Empire has work with any one with out a hidden agenda is when they help the Fed's and the KDF defeat The Dominion
system Lord Baal is dead
And even then only because they became convinced they were next on the Dominion's list.
Before that they were quite content to sit aside and watch the Klingon Empire and the Federation burn.
more like tricked into it don't forget garak planted a bomb on that senator shuttle
and I would love for that info to find its way to all romulan not only that but sisko new about it
system Lord Baal is dead
And Sela was ofcourse operating alone, with no support or orders from her higher ups. :rolleyes:
As for the Romulans being devious, deceptive, self serving, backstabbing TRIBBLE who only help others to serve some agenda of their own, I won't argue against that. In fact, I don't have too, since that's not the same as being "xenophobic."