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Jem'Hadar Attack Ship Results Thread
tercerus
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So yeah, bought 15+ Fleet Officer Packs and no Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. Meanwhile the chatbox was flying by with dozens of people who had gotten it while I was opening my packs. Along with people in chat complaining that it took them 5-9 packs to get it. Well that is a giant load of TRIBBLE that you can't even make the odds good enough for me to get it when I opened double to triple what other people did.
Yeah, Perfect World, you won't be getting another dime from me. Thanks for stealing my money. Fkn lame.
Yeah, Perfect World, you won't be getting another dime from me. Thanks for stealing my money. Fkn lame.
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Cryptic won't get any money from me especially from lockboxes so it's up to each individual to make their own mind up.
1. It's going to take a lot more than 15. The odds of a lock box (which is 125 zen) is 1 in 200 for the top prize.
2. Yeah, it looks like a lot but consider how many thousands of people must be opening them and not winning.
3. It's not meant to be given away like candy, hence the low odds.
4. You played the lottery. You took your chances. And not to mention that the pack's primary function is to provide you with doffs. So yeah, you can't blame PWE or Cryptic for stealing your money when you willingly gave it to them knowing the low chances
If memory serves, the Doff packs cost about twice what keys cost and had a correspondingly doubled chance to drop a bugship... so instead of 0.05% you had 0.1%
This was widely known info since last time, why would you take such a gamble??
Even if you didn't know the exact odds surely by now you would have heard the rage and disgust thrown at anything related to RNG that Cryptic does, again... why would you take such a gamble??
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
It might be well known to you, but not to me. I am a new player. Just started a few weeks ago. So all PerfectWorld managed to do was teach me NOT to give them my money. I am paying for a monthly subscription too, but I don't see any real benefit to it. So I'm just going to cancel my subscription. They could have gotten a lot more money out of me over the long run if they weren't so shady.
Sorry, but the way they worded it on the announcement, they made it seem like you could open a handful of packs and get it. And the people in chat were all talking about how they have it. So you are telling me EVERYONE in chat opened hundreds of packs? From what I saw, they were opening 5 to 9 packs and getting it.
The actual odds are more like 1/200.
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In that case... Sorry.
For future reference, I suggest you do quick searches on the forums when you feel tempted about an item.
There are pro and con threads on pretty much everything, some good quality, and some not so good, and they will help you make a proper decision.
They are basically your shortcut to well known facts, if you take a little time reading up on them.
Not all the items are bad, but if the description involves the words "chance to get", then personally, I advice going as far around it as you can, unless you want to expirience what you just expirienced again.
Some of the calculations out there generally place the chance of getting the "grand prize" between 1:300 and 1:600.
Hope this helps you in the future.
That's where they get you. Read this part carefully.
The Winter Packages were essentially lock boxes. So yeah, the odds are clearly stated.
Personally, I disabled zone chat long ago and never looked back. I wouldn't trust anything said about lock boxes in it for my life. But y'know, unfortunately it's just a lesson learned for you.
I KNOW it's a longshot, but look at the bottom of your inventory tab- maybe you have an overflow bag.
Think positive: santa's giftbag.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Let me ask you this. What do you think the purpose is of PerfectWorld spamming us with System GameplayAnnounce messages that show so many people winning these types of ships? You know as well as I know that it's to give us a sense of false confidence in the odds of winning it ourselves.
Otherwise there is absolutely no purpose whatsoever to spamming us all with what other players have won. If you walked into a casino and people all around you were screaming JACKPOT and winning, wouldn't you think your odds are going to be pretty good too?
As I typed this message, at least 10 people have won the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship according to the onscreen spam messages. Sorry for getting lulled into a false sense of hope by their tantalizing jackpot messages. After all, that is exactly what they wanted me to feel so I would open my wallet.
Now I know not to fall for it again. So all they have managed to do is keep me from spending more money on their scam-ridden promos.
You can turn off the spam
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BTW, RNG is RNG.
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Lock box odds are 1 in 190ish at 125 zen
so Doff pack would be 275 - so yay I would say 1 in 90 or about 25,000 Zen Max
Not to add insult to injury but I was 1 for 1 on my JHAS when they first offered the ship via doff packs. Since I'm like 0 for 150. I'm sure I will add to that count after tonight passes.
No one ever enjoys not winning ship lotteries, but please don't be naive about it. It's very rare for a reason. The reason you see so many people winning is because there are literally thousands of people opening them on day 1 of the promo. Most people are not going to win this ship from this doff pack. At most there will be a couple thousand over the next two weeks, most kept, leftovers sold off. 3 months from now we'll see once again a meager 5 ships or so for sale for 300 million +.
It's a judgment call. Either risk your dollars for no return, or use your dollars to get EC until you can buy the ship. I'm telling you now from experience, option 2 is by far the superior choice by 10,000 miles, but the temptation of getting the ship with little effort is very strong and you'll likely choose option 1. And you did. And it didn't pay off. And you're not the first person to rage post about it on these forums. And you won't be the last. But getting mad at it is like getting mad at the real lottery for not winning. Your money is gone and there's nothing to show for it. That's why they call it gambling. The only person you can blame is yourself for giving into temptation.
None of this helps you at the end of the day, but that's just the way it is. Gambling rocks when you win. It blows hardcore when you lose. Cryptic's method is shady, but it's a far cry from scamming.
Dude, I frikkin' love this. It sums up this whole scam completely. I'm sure a few have gotten lucky. But the desert is a pretty big place for lots of people...
With that money you can buy whatever shiny toy you want off the exchange.
Otherwise you just learned you lesson.
But I believe there is a case of a person who won on their 1st ticket
The odds of getting hit by a metor with Captain kirk riding it are actually higher!
Get back to me in another 50 keys.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
Actually 15 pack @ 275 zen = 4125/125 = 33 keys
It's time to turn off the computer for the day and go look at trees. Touch a kitten. Talk to people. Eat a fruit.
My apologies.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
I'm new, so I'm not sure what you mean. I did get some alien artifacts. What do I do with them?
Go to your ship's interior, speak with your science officer on the engineering deck and you can get them powered and then converted into MK XII consoles. If you're lucky you'll get a Purple quality MK XII console that people want; they can sell for millions.
If you bothered to check around, the expected value of a Jem'Hadar ship was about $150 when it was first introduced. I have no idea what the expected value is for it this time around, but I doubt it has changed much. You likely have to open over $100 US worth of packs to get a ship and you have a reasonable chance of spending $100s of dollars without winning the lottery.