Yes, some are luck to get it on the 3rd or 4th lock box open!!! However to be honest, if Cryptic made the Jem'Bug a c-store purchase... I would probably "Rage Quit" STO indefinitely. While I did end up getting the Jem'Bug, sadly it took me roughly 6 months to get. Not through the "countless" lock boxes I opened, but the EC it took to save to buy one the exchange. I personally don't mind spending $50 a month on zen, simply to promote STO servers to stay live. Cause in the end, if the servers go down... then game over.
Yes, some are luck to get it on the 3rd or 4th lock box open!!! However to be honest, if Cryptic made the Jem'Bug a c-store purchase... I would probably "Rage Quit" STO indefinitely. While I did end up getting the Jem'Bug, sadly it took me roughly 6 months to get. Not through the "countless" lock boxes I opened, but the EC it took to save to buy one the exchange. I personally don't mind spending $50 a month on zen, simply to promote STO servers to stay live. Cause in the end, if the servers go down... then game over.
You guys give the bug ship too much credit. I have the bug ship but I don't even fly it regularly. I also find the temporal destroyer to be a much more versatile ship all around. It really all depends on your build and the powers you choose that will make the difference. The bug ship maybe the last few percent but you guys have completely turned it into an OMG HAX situation.
In my experience, the biggest advantage of the JHAS is this: The combination of 5 tactical consoles, a very good boff station layout, .22 impulse modifier that made it the previous title-holder when it came to epic speed tanking, and the unusually high turnrate for an escort.
If you've ever fought a JHAS, you'll notice that it tends to dart all over the screen, even without having speed buff on. . .that's the impulse modifier. And that's only .22. . . .25 on the Corvette is much worse.
It is a great ship for speed-tanking like a boss and dishing out epic burst DPS and general pew-pew. It isn't good for anything else beyond that, like most escorts.
Considering the mountains of money they made putting that sale on the Fleet support pack - top prize of the Bug ship AND the frieghter - i would think they would want to do it again on the Romulan doff pack.
They were printing those packs as fast as the computers could generate the numbers going by the amount of bug ship winner fly-bys every few seconds for a few days!!
So to get back to my question, they do a bug ship promo maybe twice a year? Is that correct?
They stated the last time the promo ended that the JHAS will NOT be returning. There you have it.
Not a big deal anyways, so many new ships are far superior to it. The only thing that sucks is the fact we have to own one in order to purchase the hangar pets for the Dreadnought.
They stated the last time the promo ended that the JHAS will NOT be returning. There you have it.
Not a big deal anyways, so many new ships are far superior to it. The only thing that sucks is the fact we have to own one in order to purchase the hangar pets for the Dreadnought.
I don't remember them saying that it would not return - seems like a silly thing to say if they did - even so - they can always(and do) change their minds.
it was not in the news release:
Chance to win a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship!
We are currently running a promotion that will provide an additional bonus when opening a Fleet Support Duty Officer Pack!
From now until server maintenance during the morning (PDT) of Thursday, March 28, 2013, every Fleet Support Duty Officer Pack you open will also* include either 10 Lobi Crystals or a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship**! If you missed unlocking one of these vessels during the previous Duty Officer promotions, here's your chance at owning one of the most sought-after ships.
EXCLUSIVE: As an added bonus for owners of a Jem’Hadar Attack Ship, there is a Hangar item available for use exclusively for the Jem’Hadar Dreadnought Carrier (available for purchase in the Lobi Store). Scaling quality levels of these items will be available for purchase from the Shipyard Store, Dilithium Store, or Fleet Store only if you have obtained both the Jem’Hadar Attack Ship and Jem’Hadar Dreadnought Carrier.
* NOTE: This is in addition to the normal items listed below
**NOTE: The odds of winning the Jem’Hadar Attack Ship are rare but have been normalized based on the price of the Fleet Support Duty Officer Pack (275 ZEN) when compared to the 2011 Winter Packages (125 ZEN) we were selling during the 2011 Winter Event. Ship details can be found at the bottom of this page.
if they never release this ship again then they better make it so i dont need it to get the attack fighters for my JH dreadnought..
this is ridiculous. the ship is almost 500m in the exchange.. they better release it again soon so i can get one.. i have been waiting.
[12:35] Vessel Two of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 225232 (271723) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Lance.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
I don't remember them saying that it would not return - seems like a silly thing to say if they did - even so - they can always(and do) change their minds.
it was not in the news release:
It was not in that article. It was stated by a DEV during an interview that posted on the main page as a Devblog.
It will not be returning. And the requirement for the JHAS to aquire the hangars will most likely be removed.
The ship only came out when they know they could bank on it, and this time around they most likely will not. With the release of the new romulan escorts, and other special ships, the demand will be to low
They are better off placing the item in the ZEN store..I might consider paying 2500 zen for it.
How in the hell can you even obtain something like a ship with a .5% chance? That doesn't even seem feasible!!! But I guess to the game it makes perfect sense.
the requirement for the JHAS to aquire the hangars will most likely be removed.
if they do this there will be a lot of pissed off people that grinded up to 500m ec to get those hangars..
specially if they are like me and will most likely never fly that attack ship because its not my class
[12:35] Vessel Two of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 225232 (271723) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Lance.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
While there is a prerequisite of having JHAS and Dreadnaught in your hangar to acquire elite fleet pets, you can't have those pets as something is broken. Check my this thread where I have reported the issue.
I am quite lucky that I got 2 ships from exchange very cheap many moons before. But imagine, if some guy manages to collect 500 mil ec, most likely by selling lockbox keys which he bought by buying zen points for cash, only to find out that he can't have what he was looking for even spending cash because there is a game breaking bug which isn't solved since the launch of this season.
The funny part: This bug was solved before this season (check this thread, laugh and single/double facepalm at the same time) , but somehow the bug managed to find its way back when this season was launched. Suffice to say their code base is messed up and that's why old bugs keep coming back. Then of course, according to the tradition, if they resolve a bug, it ends up breaking something, and if they fix something then it breaks something else....and this vicious cycle continues.
There is no ETA and not even any acknowledgement about this bug form any of the show runners. For me, it wasn't much of the deal as I am happy with flight simulators and ArmA world (bought them in dirt cheap price when they were in discount by the way) but I can't say the same about those who spend a lot of time in this half-cooked game.
My suggestion: Don't bother about JHAS. It is simply not worth it.
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if they do this there will be a lot of pissed off people that grinded up to 500m ec to get those hangars..
specially if they are like me and will most likely never fly that attack ship because its not my class
i hope by class you mean "your style"...nothing prohibits science or engis to fly this ship. infact both classes add some srs benefits to all kind of escorts.
The notion that engis are bound to fly cruisers and science is bound to sci ships is ridiculous in so many ways.
i hope by class you mean "your style"...nothing prohibits science or engis to fly this ship. infact both classes add some srs benefits to all kind of escorts.
The notion that engis are bound to fly cruisers and science is bound to sci ships is ridiculous in so many ways.
yeah except for the fact that you are buying a very expensive ship to get hangar pets for a carrier that you want to fly?
sure you can do anything you want.. but when it comes down to it. i want to fly a carrier with jhas hangars.. not the jhas itself.
[12:35] Vessel Two of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 225232 (271723) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Lance.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
It was not in that article. It was stated by a DEV during an interview that posted on the main page as a Devblog.
It will not be returning. And the requirement for the JHAS to aquire the hangars will most likely be removed.
The ship only came out when they know they could bank on it, and this time around they most likely will not. With the release of the new romulan escorts, and other special ships, the demand will be to low
They are better off placing the item in the ZEN store..I might consider paying 2500 zen for it.
"Oh this will be the last time it's up for grabs, honest!" is a great way to push sales. Nobody cares about romulan escorts. Everyone cares about the JHAS.
"Oh this will be the last time it's up for grabs, honest!" is a great way to push sales. Nobody cares about romulan escorts. Everyone cares about the JHAS.
All around the ship is STILL op - fast - 4 eng slots - 5 tac slots - uni boff slots - you see one with a skilled player show up in PvE - they will eat Borg Cubes before most players can even get a shot off.
I'm not impressed with the "odds" of boxes and doff packs for ships myself, i seen to always read a post that states that the odds of getting ships from the boxes and doff packs is equal to the value the ship would be in the zen store (works out at roughly 10-14 doff packs or 20-30 boxes) i myself have gone through 200+ boxes and 30+ doff packs when ships have been available in them and only ever received a Galor, K'Dora and Tuffli (1 of each to clarify). when i purchased the full legacy pack and got 30 keys i also purchased another 30+ keys in hopes of gaining the Tal'Shiar Destroyer, 76 boxes later still no destroyer.
Now i'm not moaning regarding the lack of ships other than to state that it's annoying when you see the system message pop up every minute almost and sometimes the same person gets 2 in a row. My beef is with the so called odds being being fully described as to say how many it takes in order to get a ship from a box or doff pack. XX% means nothing when people such as myself and many others have spend hundreds of pounds on the game in one form or another and get frustrated at the lack of the item/ship we're wanting.
I'd much prefer a set number of boxes/packs required for a ship or the ship to be purchasable via the zen store after say 3 months of box only availability.
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I really feel for people who spend money but don't get anything.
If you put down 100s of dollars in my opinion you should have access to everything in the game since that is the price of full games.
So I totally get it when people run out and buy cash expecting to get their money's worth.
The other side of that is you should always do your homework. The information is freely available.
I will admit it sort of is a grey area. On one hand they do advertise lockbox ships but don't go out of their way to explain the small chance, I don't know if they have to, and yes they spam your screen with announcements of other people getting ships.
On the other hand wouldn't you expect them to try and get your money?
I have everything in the game I want and I never spend any cash on keys...
But yeah it's sort of the feeling we going to sucker the people who can't control themselves.
The bug ship? No special console, no cloak, 3 aft weapons, 2 device consoles and 1 science console? (plus the ugly design).
There is litterly nothing special about it minus the fact it's rare.
At first when I heard about it I thought "ah, it's a bugged ship that has some type of exploit and that's why it's expensive"
When the lockbox system was introduced those who now patronize the OP, whined like little babies. A few months later the OP will laugh heartily at newbs like he is now.
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yeah except for the fact that you are buying a very expensive ship to get hangar pets for a carrier that you want to fly?
sure you can do anything you want.. but when it comes down to it. i want to fly a carrier with jhas hangars.. not the jhas itself.
I couldn't agree with you more on this. It seems quite ridiculous to me that they would gate the hangars in this manner. I personally don't much care for the JHAS, but I do want to have the hangars for my Dreadnought so that I can actually launch frigates. With no alternative frigates for Fed characters (That work with the Dreadnought), I'm stuck with sub-standard fighters that are practically made of tin foil. Hell, I'd even be happy with just the rare JHAS pets. This is only compounded by the fact that the cheapest JHAS are 450~ million, and apparently they will never again be available through the lottery. I'd like to have competent pets, but I don't think that 450 million EC is worth a hangar bay!
Just hope that Cryptic decides to make at least the rare ones open, because this is a little ridiculous as it is.
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You guys give the bug ship too much credit. I have the bug ship but I don't even fly it regularly. I also find the temporal destroyer to be a much more versatile ship all around. It really all depends on your build and the powers you choose that will make the difference. The bug ship maybe the last few percent but you guys have completely turned it into an OMG HAX situation.
If you've ever fought a JHAS, you'll notice that it tends to dart all over the screen, even without having speed buff on. . .that's the impulse modifier. And that's only .22. . . .25 on the Corvette is much worse.
It is a great ship for speed-tanking like a boss and dishing out epic burst DPS and general pew-pew. It isn't good for anything else beyond that, like most escorts.
They were printing those packs as fast as the computers could generate the numbers going by the amount of bug ship winner fly-bys every few seconds for a few days!!
They do it whenever they want to rake in massive $$$$ - no set time/date
Bravo, sir! BRAVO!
They stated the last time the promo ended that the JHAS will NOT be returning. There you have it.
Not a big deal anyways, so many new ships are far superior to it. The only thing that sucks is the fact we have to own one in order to purchase the hangar pets for the Dreadnought.
I don't remember them saying that it would not return - seems like a silly thing to say if they did - even so - they can always(and do) change their minds.
it was not in the news release:
this is ridiculous. the ship is almost 500m in the exchange.. they better release it again soon so i can get one.. i have been waiting.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
It was not in that article. It was stated by a DEV during an interview that posted on the main page as a Devblog.
It will not be returning. And the requirement for the JHAS to aquire the hangars will most likely be removed.
The ship only came out when they know they could bank on it, and this time around they most likely will not. With the release of the new romulan escorts, and other special ships, the demand will be to low
They are better off placing the item in the ZEN store..I might consider paying 2500 zen for it.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
if they do this there will be a lot of pissed off people that grinded up to 500m ec to get those hangars..
specially if they are like me and will most likely never fly that attack ship because its not my class
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
I am quite lucky that I got 2 ships from exchange very cheap many moons before. But imagine, if some guy manages to collect 500 mil ec, most likely by selling lockbox keys which he bought by buying zen points for cash, only to find out that he can't have what he was looking for even spending cash because there is a game breaking bug which isn't solved since the launch of this season.
The funny part: This bug was solved before this season (check this thread, laugh and single/double facepalm at the same time) , but somehow the bug managed to find its way back when this season was launched. Suffice to say their code base is messed up and that's why old bugs keep coming back. Then of course, according to the tradition, if they resolve a bug, it ends up breaking something, and if they fix something then it breaks something else....and this vicious cycle continues.
There is no ETA and not even any acknowledgement about this bug form any of the show runners. For me, it wasn't much of the deal as I am happy with flight simulators and ArmA world (bought them in dirt cheap price when they were in discount by the way) but I can't say the same about those who spend a lot of time in this half-cooked game.
My suggestion: Don't bother about JHAS. It is simply not worth it.
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i hope by class you mean "your style"...nothing prohibits science or engis to fly this ship. infact both classes add some srs benefits to all kind of escorts.
The notion that engis are bound to fly cruisers and science is bound to sci ships is ridiculous in so many ways.
yeah except for the fact that you are buying a very expensive ship to get hangar pets for a carrier that you want to fly?
sure you can do anything you want.. but when it comes down to it. i want to fly a carrier with jhas hangars.. not the jhas itself.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
All around the ship is STILL op - fast - 4 eng slots - 5 tac slots - uni boff slots - you see one with a skilled player show up in PvE - they will eat Borg Cubes before most players can even get a shot off.
Now i'm not moaning regarding the lack of ships other than to state that it's annoying when you see the system message pop up every minute almost and sometimes the same person gets 2 in a row. My beef is with the so called odds being being fully described as to say how many it takes in order to get a ship from a box or doff pack. XX% means nothing when people such as myself and many others have spend hundreds of pounds on the game in one form or another and get frustrated at the lack of the item/ship we're wanting.
I'd much prefer a set number of boxes/packs required for a ship or the ship to be purchasable via the zen store after say 3 months of box only availability.
If you put down 100s of dollars in my opinion you should have access to everything in the game since that is the price of full games.
So I totally get it when people run out and buy cash expecting to get their money's worth.
The other side of that is you should always do your homework. The information is freely available.
I will admit it sort of is a grey area. On one hand they do advertise lockbox ships but don't go out of their way to explain the small chance, I don't know if they have to, and yes they spam your screen with announcements of other people getting ships.
On the other hand wouldn't you expect them to try and get your money?
I have everything in the game I want and I never spend any cash on keys...
But yeah it's sort of the feeling we going to sucker the people who can't control themselves.
The bug ship? No special console, no cloak, 3 aft weapons, 2 device consoles and 1 science console? (plus the ugly design).
There is litterly nothing special about it minus the fact it's rare.
At first when I heard about it I thought "ah, it's a bugged ship that has some type of exploit and that's why it's expensive"
oh , they already got your money.
"working as intended".
...and people still throw their money at keys for 'random' real cash stuff ....
people are just stupid, plain and simple, and PWE knows it....and is profiting.
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I couldn't agree with you more on this. It seems quite ridiculous to me that they would gate the hangars in this manner. I personally don't much care for the JHAS, but I do want to have the hangars for my Dreadnought so that I can actually launch frigates. With no alternative frigates for Fed characters (That work with the Dreadnought), I'm stuck with sub-standard fighters that are practically made of tin foil. Hell, I'd even be happy with just the rare JHAS pets. This is only compounded by the fact that the cheapest JHAS are 450~ million, and apparently they will never again be available through the lottery. I'd like to have competent pets, but I don't think that 450 million EC is worth a hangar bay!
Just hope that Cryptic decides to make at least the rare ones open, because this is a little ridiculous as it is.