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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So many victims of good marketing here! :D

    It IS a featured episode series, or another Romulan-centric season with some STFs and the new "adventure zone". It may be very well another path toward a playable race or faction, because they would be able to work on assets, maps, they could use again for Romulan stuff later, but it's too soon.

    The game still needs more endgame content. They have one complete faction, another one is half-finished and needs more than a tutorial and some episodes (ships, costumes, a couple of dailies, for instance), they still have 4-5 canon ships to sell, and so on. It's not time for a faction. Not yet. But it could be a good step toward it.

    I won't hold my breath for a faction because it's not going to happen anytime soon. If you have high hopes, well, expect high disappointment. :P
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    So many victims of good marketing here! :D

    It IS a featured episode series, or another Romulan-centric season with some STFs and the new "adventure zone". It may be very well another path toward a playable race or faction, because they would be able to work on assets, maps, they could use again for Romulan stuff later, but it's too soon.

    The game still needs more endgame content. They have one complete faction, another one is half-finished and needs more than a tutorial and some episodes (ships, costumes, a couple of dailies, for instance), they still have 4-5 canon ships to sell, and so on. It's not time for a faction. Not yet. But it could be a good step toward it.

    I won't hold my breath for a faction because it's not going to happen anytime soon. If you have high hopes, well, expect high disappointment. :P

    Two romulans appear behind diogene0. One skillfully stabs him with a green nanoblade knive. While proping him up between the two of them, the other mutters through his tholian silk scarf:

    So send him back to the consolate where he worked as a gardener, or straight to the ministry of information on Cardassia Prime where he really worked?
  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Umm..if its a new faction, does that mean we'll get a free character slot or will lowly f2p players be forced to either delete their fed (that they need to open the kdf option) to play rom/kdf or fork out for a new character slot?

    If so..meh, they'd have to offer a dilithium pooping romulan scimtar to make me consider it
  • wirtddwirtdd Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    New romulan episodes + romulan ships, perhaps playable romulan (not faction) nothing more.
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  • sollafsollaf Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    All I can say is this

    "March beneath the Raptor's Wings"

    March- Implying you

    Beneath- Serving

    Raptor's Wings- The Romulans, (Remember the Romulans are designed after the Romans, implying a legion)

    Other words, give your allegiance to the Romulan empire.

    Now, where is my D'deridex class cruiser?


    Oh and Denise Crosby was at a Sci-fi con recently, and said she did voice over work for STO, voicing the characters Tasha Yar, and Empress Sela. (Going to leave this right here.)
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  • derbeelzebotderbeelzebot Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    diogene0 wrote: »
    So many victims of good marketing here! :D

    It IS a featured episode series, or another Romulan-centric season with some STFs and the new "adventure zone". It may be very well another path toward a playable race or faction, because they would be able to work on assets, maps, they could use again for Romulan stuff later, but it's too soon.

    The game still needs more endgame content. They have one complete faction, another one is half-finished and needs more than a tutorial and some episodes (ships, costumes, a couple of dailies, for instance), they still have 4-5 canon ships to sell, and so on. It's not time for a faction. Not yet. But it could be a good step toward it.

    I won't hold my breath for a faction because it's not going to happen anytime soon. If you have high hopes, well, expect high disappointment. :P

    I agree with this assessment. And not because I don't want to see a Romulan faction, but because I want to see it done properly.

    I simply do not see how Cryptic's resources can do three factions justice, when they seem to struggle with doing two. The last thing I want is Romulans done as a copy-pasta job.
  • sollafsollaf Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I agree with this assessment. And not because I don't want to see a Romulan faction, but because I want to see it done properly.

    I simply do not see how Cryptic's resources can do three factions justice, when they seem to struggle with doing two. The last thing I want is Romulans done as a copy-pasta job.

    Yes, but at the same time, they are trying to fix the Klingon faction, which was muddled up since beta. It would be a lot easier to build a new faction from scratch, which they probably should have done with the Klingons.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    My two cents here is that a Romulan faction is way overdue. I know the boys in the KDF want more content, and that is understandable, but at the end of the day the series had started with the big 3 as the political superpowers. When the game came out, and the KDF limped on at the beginning, I was honestly wondering where the other superpower was in the star trek universe. With it not being in sight I figured that someone at cryptic dropped the ball on that one rather significantly. I have always wanted to see a romulan faction here, and after the whole beneath the raptor thing, I think, since so many people went 'faction' right away, I think their marketing department just shot the rest of perfect world in the face if they don't deliver the faction. A tie in with the KDF side mission wise would definitely solve people's want for the faction, and the KDF side being screwed content wise. Tie both sides into the same mission set. Done.

    In the end though, the fact that there hasn't been a 3rd faction done in a universe that started with 3 superpowers politically, was a bit short sighted. Let's get that 3rd political power player in the game as is canon, and let's go into 3 way PvP matches and wreck stuff. If they are going to deny one of those political powers though, they should drop KDF till they are ready to allow the different powers to be playable. Not a popular sentiment, but let's get on track and allow other factions into the game starting with the big 3, and then move on from there to Cardassian maybe, and who knows from there. But if you are going to cut one of the big 3 out of the equation, might as well cut the other out also and go full fed and it would solve insane amounts of complaints and problems for the future.

    Again, my two cents, someone else's turn now. Cheers all.

    so much this!

    also this:
    I hope it is a Romulan Faction. Romulans were who I wanted to play as when I first pre-ordered this game.

    im putting all my Dill on stale, just hoarding it and PVPing/DOFFing from now on, also polishing my Credit Card - so that i can support a Romulan Starbase and finally STAB YOU IN THE BACK, FEDs ! :D

    DANKE, DAKUJEM, THANK YOU, CHVALA Cryptic!
  • captaintrueheartcaptaintrueheart Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Thinking more on this... when they released that teaser they should have known that everyone seeing it would immediately think "Romulan Faction"...


    Perhaps what we'll see isn't a Romulan Faction, with a dedicated storyline but rather "Playable Romulan"

    Personally... I'm hoping for an exploration revamp. I loved how you could explore the world in Fallout 3, something resembling that concept would be very cool
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Perhaps what we'll see isn't a Romulan Faction, with a dedicated storyline but rather "Playable Romulan"

    What we'll see is a new adventure zone in Romulan Space and maye an FE including Romulans ... because that's what everybody told us since November ... not sure how anyone could believe in a Romulan Faction, considering previous Dev-Statements ...
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    that. Once we get closer, I?ll share more details.
    Dstahl: Season 7 is going to reveal more information about what *might* have happened to Sela as well as dive deep into the aftermath of the Romulan Feature Episode series. In addition, we are planning a big story update for Season 8 which will futher other story lines, but we aren't sharing any details about that yet since it is further out.
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  • lakenoplakenop Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Finally, around 370 AD, the ancient philosopher Surak, revered as the father of Vulcan civilization, led his people in a great reformation to reject their emotions in favor of a philosophy that embraced pure logic. He demonstrated enormous courage, working for peace in the face of war. (TOS: "The Savage Curtain")

    One group, known as "those who march beneath the Raptor's wings" (the future Romulans), did not accept Surak's teachings and split off from the Vulcans at this time. (TNG: "Gambit, Part II"; ENT: "Awakening")
  • dixoniumdixonium Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If the Nimbus III adventure zone is on the way, and is in any way connected to this new release, then we should reflect on the history of the planet. What was the function of Nimbus III, the planet of "galactic peace"? To bring three distinct factions together--the Federation, the Klingons, and the Romulans--so that they could develop the planet in unison and forge stronger alliances as a result. Is this a hint at things to come?
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    If this is their answer to competing with TOR's expansion, I am all for it. And, we all get a free character slot (well that is wishful thinking there)
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    If this is their answer to competing with TOR's expansion, I am all for it. And, we all get a free character slot (well that is wishful thinking there)
    A character slot that can only be used for a Romulan faction Char? It could happen.
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  • bobogheimbobogheim Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/romulan_ships.htm

    A website about what kind of romulan ship classes we will expect to see in the romulan faction as playable.

    I think we will see any retrofit designs and new romulan ship design with surprise :eek: as we have not seen before.

    What do you think about The Scimitar vessel?

    I think we will see a new Reman or Romulan vessels like the Scimitar ship and perhaps even more powerful, dangerous and deadly like the Guramba Siege Destroyer.

    What about the Neros mining vessel Narada?
  • captrott1captrott1 Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bobogheim wrote: »
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/romulan_ships.htm

    A website about what kind of romulan ship classes we will expect to see in the romulan faction as playable.

    I think we will see any retrofit designs and new romulan ship design with surprise :eek: as we have not seen before.

    What do you think about The Scimitar vessel?

    I think we will see a new Reman or Romulan vessels like the Scimitar ship and perhaps even more powerful, dangerous and deadly like the Guramba Siege Destroyer.

    What about the Neros mining vessel Narada?

    Nice link. Lol, I love how things have gone from skeptical to picking what ships we want over night.

    I want a Romulan faction as well but it seems so strange that they would sit on this information and not announce it, though I guess May is still quite awhile out.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    bobogheim wrote: »
    http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/romulan_ships.htm

    A website about what kind of romulan ship classes we will expect to see in the romulan faction as playable.

    I think we will see any retrofit designs and new romulan ship design with surprise :eek: as we have not seen before.

    What do you think about The Scimitar vessel?

    I think we will see a new Reman or Romulan vessels like the Scimitar ship and perhaps even more powerful, dangerous and deadly like the Guramba Siege Destroyer.

    What about the Neros mining vessel Narada?
    Scimitar is a strong candidate for Romulan Z-Store ship #1....

    I'd be interesting if it had a cone attack similar to Shinzon's Thalaron projector.

    BoP: very similar to the KDF version in having enhanced battle cloak, other stats? hard to say. good choice for low tier

    D7: hehe, why not? good choice for mid tier

    D'Deridex: heavy cruiser, good choice for high teir.

    Droneship: oy, there's a wide variety of interesting possibilities here....

    Science ship: with PHASING CLOAK!!! WANT!

    Scout: who knows?

    Shuttle: see scout, obvious source for a Romulan shuttle design though.

    Valdore: While the Mogai in the game is inspired by this ship.... this thing was meant as a huge vessel capable of slugging it out with the best the Federation could field.

    Reman Scorpions would make a nice fighter/shuttlecraft


    Mogai: this is a highly maneuverable tac ship in the game, and apparently considerably smaller than the Valdore.

    Narada.... that's an interesting monstrosity.... another good candidate for Z-store.
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  • wargasm121wargasm121 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I always considered Klingons to be vile, smelly, disgusting creatures but its cool they are giving them more love :P
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    1. The 2800 Teaser happened at least 2 months before release, and there were lot of speculations when they released it ... including playable Cardassians ... so we didn't exactly "knew" what is was either ...
    2. They already told us about "at least 1 FE with Season 8" just like they told us "no Romulan Faction before Season 9"

    Stahl recently said that the May update is something "more than a season" and that he no longer calls it a season. The only word I can think of -- and one I think he's deliberately teasing -- is an expansion.

    Also note how dry the C-Store has been. Unless lockboxes are THAT good, the other shoe has to drop sometime in terms of revenue.

    So I think maybe a paid expansion. The question is how Klingons are handled.
  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Stahl recently said that the May update is something "more than a season" and that he no longer calls it a season. The only word I can think of -- and one I think he's deliberately teasing -- is an expansion.

    Also note how dry the C-Store has been. Unless lockboxes are THAT good, the other shoe has to drop sometime in terms of revenue.

    So I think maybe a paid expansion. The question is how Klingons are handled.

    Z-Store is pretty dry for 1 year now in favor of Lockboxes / Lobi-Store ... besides the Vesta we only got some overpriced uniforms like Racing Uniforms (I'm pretty sure Ambassador+1, Andorian Ship etc are coming soonish btw) ... well we'll see but i heard the "The biggest prettiest Uber-Season yet" Stuff for 7 Seasons now ... so I have trouble believing it :P

    The way the STO F2P model works, I seriously doubt an Paid Expansion though ...
    1. Subs get it for free ... not gonna happen ... considering there is almost no point in Subscribing now ...
    2. Everyone has to pay for it ... which would make STO the most unfair F2P model ever ...
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Why do STO players get disappointed all the time?

    Ah yes, they raise the bar to impossible heights every time.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Z-Store is pretty dry for 1 year now in favor of Lockboxes ... besides the Vesta most of the stuff was some overpriced uniforms like Racing Uniforms ... well we'll see but i heard the "The biggest prettiest Uber-Season yet" Stuff for 7 Seasons now ... so I have trouble believing it :P

    The way the STO F2P model works, I seriously doubt an Paid Expansion though ...

    Odyssey class
    Armitage class
    Atrox Carrier
    Regent class

    and we got more Fleet ships then lockbox ships...we only have had 5 lock boxes.
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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    After Lockbox / Lobi
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Odyssey class
    Armitage class
    Atrox Carrier
    Regent class

    and we got more Fleet ships then lockbox ships...we only have had 5 lock boxes.

    VS

    Before Lockbox / Lobi
    Federation TOS Constitution Class Cruiser (1701 Enterprise) - 500
    Federation Dreadnought Cruiser (Galaxy X) - 2500
    Federation Exploration Cruiser Retrofit - 2000
    Federation Long Range Science Vessel Retrofit - 2000
    Federation Tactical Escort Retrofit - 2000
    Federation Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit (Excelsior) - 2000
    Federation Advanced Research Vessel Retrofit (Nebula class) - 2000
    Federation NX Class Starship Replica (NX-01 Enterprise) - 500
    Federation Shuttlecraft - Delta Flyer - 500
    Federation D'Kyr Science Vessel - 2000
    Federation Multi-Vector Advanced Escort - 2500
    Federation Oberth Class Light Science Vessel - 500
    Federation Peregrine Attack Fighter - 500
    Federation Rhode Island Class Refit - 750
    Federation Exploration Cruiser Refit - Venture Class - 1500
    Federation Heavy Escort Refit - Thunderchild Class - 1000
    Federation Long Range Science Vessel Refit - Bellerophon Class - 1500
    Federation Escort Refit - Gladius Class - 750
    Federation Cruiser Refit - Exeter Class - 750
    Federation Advanced Heavy Cruiser - 1000
    Federation Advanced Research Vessel - 1000
    Federation Tactical Escort Refit - Sao Paulo Class - 1500
    Federation Runabout: Yellowstone Class - 500
    Federation Stalker Stealth Fighter - 500
    lingon Defense Force B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit (B'rel) - 2000
    Klingon Defense Force Marauder Patrol Cruiser - 2000
    Klingon Defense Force Varanus Fleet Support Vessel - 2000
    Klingon Defense Force Kar'Fi Battle Carrier - 2000
    Klingon Defense Force Guramba Siege Destroyer - 2500
    Klingon Defense Force To'Duj Fighter - 500
    Klingon Defense Force Vor'cha Battle Cruiser Refit - Vor'Kang Class - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force K't'inga Battle Cruiser Refit - Koro't'inga Class - 1000
    Klingon Defense Force Pach Raptor Refit - Puyjaq Class - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Phalanx Science Vessel - 1000
    Klingon Defense Force Draguas Support Vessel - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Vandal Destroyer - 1000
    Klingon Defense Force Scourge Destroyer - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Dacoit Flight-Deck Cruiser - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Corsair Flight-Deck Cruiser - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Norgh Bird-of-Prey Refit - Ning'tao Class - 1000
    Klingon Defense Force Ki'tang Bird-of-Prey Refit - Ch'tang Class - 1500
    Klingon Defense Force Qorgh Raptor Refit - SuQob Class - 1000

    Soooo ... 3 Ships + 3 Uniforms in 1 year vs. ~25 Ships + ~25 Uniforms in 2 years ... pretty dry ...

    Bought pretty much everything in the CStore before F2P ... and now i don't really know what to do with my monthly stipend ...
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Soooo ... 3 Ships + 3 Uniforms in 1 year vs. ~25 Ships + ~25 Uniforms in 2 years ... pretty dry ... :



    Bought pretty much everything in the CStore before F2P ... and now i don't really know what to do with my monthly stipend ...

    That's nice but you said over lock box ships, so you just answered you own question there are more C strore than lock box ships.

    and there are more Fleet ships than lockbox ships.


    anywho not to derail the thread.

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  • thutmosis85thutmosis85 Member Posts: 2,358 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    That's nice but you said over lock box ships, so you just answered you own question there are more C strore than lock box ships.

    and there are more Fleet ships than lockbox ships.


    anywho not to derail the thread.

    ROMULANS!!

    Never asked any question ... so not sure whats your point here, and what Fleet Ships have to do with anything here .... hate to quote myself but it seems i have to
    Z-Store is pretty dry for 1 year now in favor of Lockboxes / Lobi-Store ...

    Considering we got ~20 CStore Ships per year !!!!BEFORE!!!! Lockboxes/Lobi and now we have 3-4 ... well ... not gonna do the math here sorry ... besides there is a lot more stuff than just 5 Ships in the Lobi Store ...

    PS : You're the one derailing here ... the point was ... Z-Store being dry right now (missing revenue?) doesn't mean Romulan Paid Expansion, because Z-Store is pretty dry for a long time ... doesn't really matter why anyway (Lockbox/Godzilla/Flying Monkeys) ... if you wanna blame it on Godzilla, be my guest ... but the Z-Store is dry none the less ...
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  • megacharge07megacharge07 Member Posts: 476 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Mogai escort incoming.
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  • captrott1captrott1 Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Well, if we do not get a Romulan faction, we can all say that teaser is:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs
  • kahless2001kahless2001 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I'm waiting patiently.

    Although I wont forget my Klingon characters. They need some lovin' too.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    After Lockbox / Lobi



    VS

    Before Lockbox / Lobi



    Soooo ... 3 Ships + 3 Uniforms in 1 year vs. ~25 Ships + ~25 Uniforms in 2 years ... pretty dry ...

    Bought pretty much everything in the CStore before F2P ... and now i don't really know what to do with my monthly stipend ...

    Yeah, well, my gut says that's because they staffed up around the time the dry spell started and didn't have the spare manpower for C-Store assets. Whatever hits in May has probably taken an expanded team (double the size of the launch team) over a year to assemble. Granted, I'm sure a ton was spent on training but I wouldn't rule out a full faction in that time. And I think that probably left the C-Store a bit dry.

    But that probably means what's coming will be paid.

    I wouldn't rule out it being a paid $50-60 expansion, which ZEN can't be used for.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    What we'll see is a new adventure zone in Romulan Space and maye an FE including Romulans ... because that's what everybody told us since November ... not sure how anyone could believe in a Romulan Faction, considering previous Dev-Statements ...

    I guess we'll laugh hard when season 8 is released, with so many rage threads. It's been explained all along this thread but since no one ever read other's posts... :D
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