Or it could be a reference to it? Holy super critical with absolutely ZERO idea or knowledge of what they are planning or what the writing will be like...
Or it could be a reference to it? Holy super critical with absolutely ZERO idea or knowledge of what they are planning or what the writing will be like...
"ZERO idea" is a pretty silly statement. The picture is Romulan; that is a fact not a guess. The phrase "march beneath the raptor's wings", with the raptor being the Romulan figurehead, implies allegiance to the Romulans. Fed and KDF captains allegiance is to their respective factions, not the Romulans. So while we do not know exactly what they are planning, saying we have "ZERO idea" is just wrong.
At this point I'm not even going to bother apologizing for what I'm about to say about the KDF faction, because really what's the point. The KDF have been so overused in ST that they have become like the Borg in STO, forgettable and boring.
That's not to say that there are KDF fans and players out there, but really this whole "build it and they will come" philosophy that KDF players are clinging to is really getting dusty. KDF interest has long since peaked and people finally need to come to grips with the fact there just really aren't that many interested, and again I personally think alot of this is because the KDF are so overused and hence have become boring.
Romulans apart from the whole reunification saga still have been largely untapped as a whole. Nemesis and other bits of ST have given us hints of the inter-workings of the Romulan Government, but the overall culture still remains largely a mystery. The fact there is so much that can be done with the Romulans that really hasn't been seen before (and the fact the ships look cool as hell), of course there is going to be a huge amount of interest in a RSE faction. A Romulan faction and the KDF faction have absolutely nothing to do with each other and just because one has become a developmental and financial failure doesn't mean the other will be.
I think what most KDF players are forgetting is that the KDF and the UFP have/had been allies for so long, where as the KDF and RSE have been mortal enemies for so long that having a RSE faction, and the subsequent RSE VS KDF has the possibility to actually increase interest in the KDF.
Personally, if they add the RSE as a faction and have just enough DEV content to last until the foundry starts filling up with some good RSE story content I'd be more than happy and would probably for the more part ditch my FED for RSE in 2.2 secs.
A RSE faction may infact spark a rebirth for the KDF faction so to all the KDF out there don't come down on the idea of a RSE faction too hard.
Oh and just for the record.....
WARRIORS DO NOT WHINE, ONLY COWARDS WHINE!!!
WHERE'S YOUR HONOR??
Jengoz... that book took the name from a line of dialogue in Enterprise. To go and fault STO for a lack of originality and hold up, of all things, the Trek novels as a shining beacon of independent thought is, if I had to put a label on it, comically misguided.
I don't know where that page came from. Did someone dig it up, or did it get leaked on purpose? Was tomorrow's one-off FE going to hint this way anyway? Only one thing is certain. If it's not a Romulan faction, after this thread, there's disaster movie panic levels inside Cryptic Studios. (Luckily, the roof's not that far off the ground.)
Jengoz... that book took the name from a line of dialogue in Enterprise. To go and fault STO for a lack of originality and hold up, of all things, the Trek novels as a shining beacon of independent thought is, if I had to put a label on it, comically misguided.
I don't know where that page came from. Did someone dig it up, or did it get leaked on purpose? Was tomorrow's one-off FE going to hint this way anyway? Only one thing is certain. If it's not a Romulan faction, after this thread, there's disaster movie panic levels inside Cryptic Studios. (Luckily, the roof's not that far off the ground.)
"ZERO idea" is a pretty silly statement. The picture is Romulan; that is a fact not a guess. The phrase "march beneath the raptor's wings", with the raptor being the Romulan figurehead, implies allegiance to the Romulans. Fed and KDF captains allegiance is to their respective factions, not the Romulans. So while we do not know exactly what they are planning, saying we have "ZERO idea" is just wrong.
While I doubt it, it COULD be the Featured Episode equivalent to The Enterprise Incident or Unification.
Ie. we all get surgically altered and pose as Romulans. That would be marching beneath the Raptor's wings too.
But let's be real:
It's a Romulan faction. If it's a complete Romulan faction, that's 50 episodes give or take that would be needed.
20 of those are taken care of with FEs. That means 30 new episodes. I bet 5 of those new episodes would be shared with Feds and KDF. Leaving 25 unique Romulan episodes to fill.
Which leaves Klingons with a 15 episode and a tutorial gap. Take 10 of those 25 Romulan episodes and share them with KDF (and NOT Feds).
The Romulans still have 15 unique episodes that way. Do 5 episodes for the KDF (actually, 4 counting the 3rd anniversary mission) and a tutorial and the Klingon faction is "complete." Wrap a bow on it.
Now, the Romulans would then have 35 missions in common with the KDF but 15 unique and a unique tutorial.
And with FEs at that point accounting for 26+ missions, the idea if probably that 50% or more of any new factions will be FE play.
I really to hope this becomes a faction, which will be cool but i hope it also makes the romulan ships playable via FED because now were allies so I hope we will have accesse to there technology as they do ours.
Pretty cool, i also remember reading about updates to Crafting. My dream is to be able to craft any console,weapon, space or ground set. Or to have a dry-dock to craft ship upgrades like increase turn rate or add hull points. Or craft boff slot upgrades, I do remember reading crafting upgrades were also suppose to be coming in season 8, I hope for us who love the crafting aspect of MMO's that we get something better than what we have currently.
I'd imagine it's the return of Empress Sela, and a resurgence of the old Romulan Empire. If Klingon content features heavily in Season 8, then perhaps the Romulans are bringing the fight to the Klingon Empire.
i agree with you on this. old romulan empire which will start with a FE series. i also think that it will fill out kdf content as well as setting the stage for a romulan faction. just think about it, season 8 is slated to be out in may (ask cryptic: january 2013). maybe the title of the season? but who knows, we can all speculate their reason behind their tease. and we all know that there will be disappointment, especially for all that want a romulan faction.
honestly, we all know they didn't use denise crosby for one special mission, and why in the pc gamer video would they place the teaser after the three year anniversary clip with denise's voice over of yar.
my thoughts: klingon content with their 'blood enemy', romulan FE series based around the new romulus leader with unificationist ideals and the return of sela (that would play into the new romulus adventure zone being neutral ground for current factions), setting the stage for a new faction for release of season 9 (which unfortunately will end up like the current kdf, ask for more content, but that would have been an easy fix to have a special team work on that and have a larger general patch.....hint hint.), and more adventure zones (which are great, but could use one for kdf and fed for their war, because pvp or story missions does not do the so-called war justice)
God, please let it not be a new faction and just a mission chain now.
I want to see what this place is like then. It would be absolutely glorious.
There's been absolutely zero indication at any point ever that Romulans as a faction will happen pre-season 9, so if all that's been a ruse... it's one of the greatest ruses in MMO history.
Doesn't seem at all likely though. Much more likely the game is doing well enough to just afford a bit of self-promotion.
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What if it is just a playable Romulan, with ships and stuff lol, gosh I hope note.
I want a Faction, but to have a faction they'd have to have done a complete storyline like they did on the FED side, i don't see that happening with their budget/number of employees.
Maybe it is just the next FE, and a really good FE at that.
I think also KDF might get more content in S8, but I don't see how that relates to the romulan teaser.
Cryptic overhyping things is not exactly NEW either, though .... still waiting for these 10-15 FE's per year they were talking about in 2010
True. It could be they just have enough money to throw around to afford a fancy teaser.
But still... why this far in advance? I don't recall the 2800 teaser being put out literally months in advance, and certainly not before we knew what it was. And why timed so well with S8? Possibly coincidence, possibly has nothing to do with anything, but peculiar enough to warrant mention.
Considering that, and the fact we know of no other actual story/mission content in the works post-Anniversary... It reminds me of the Drought of 2011 when they all ducked their heads down to revamp every old mission to scale for F2P.
Fits my predictions for a Romulan Faction. No way, even staffed up, they'd be able to churn out a whole faction without all hands on deck aside from a skeleton crew doing appeasement work for lockbox/C-Store. I'd expect a whole lot of nearly nothing between mid-February and May.
If it is an FE, they'll tell us well before May anyway. Can't think of a time they haven't.
True. It could be they just have enough money to throw around to afford a fancy teaser.
But still... why this far in advance? I don't recall the 2800 teaser being put out literally months in advance, and certainly not before we knew what it was. And why timed so well with S8? Possibly coincidence, possibly has nothing to do with anything, but peculiar enough to warrant mention.
If it is an FE, they'll tell us well before May anyway. Can't think of a time they haven't.
1. The 2800 Teaser happened at least 2 months before release, and there were lot of speculations when they released it ... including playable Cardassians ... so we didn't exactly "knew" what is was either ...
2. They already told us about "at least 1 FE with Season 8" just like they told us "no Romulan Faction before Season 9"
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As someone who's actually more interested in the Romulans than the KDF, that's my thought as well. They so far haven't bothered to even edit shared content coherently to make sense for the KDF, and the library of actual KDF missions is tiny. It leaves a really bad precedent for the RSE.
I think this as well, minus any interest whatsoever in the Romulans (Romulans??!! BAH! HUMBUG!!)
I do think that they could still be done as a sort of top heavy faction. Maybe.. 10 missions that level you up to lvl 50, or maybe you just have to do the missions as an introduction while already being 50? Then all they'd need to do is add proper Doffing assignments, a sector or two, and a few base costumes and ships... and everything else could be C-store/Lobi. Basically they make it as short as possible while opening up on the things they could sell. That would be an ideal way for them to introduce new factions, make them require a lvl X fed character, offer up a short introductorey set of missions and off they go... each faction would be accompanied by the appropriate C-store/Lobi releases of course.
If they have any foresight they will make as much faction neutral clothing as they can, things most humanoids can easily wear to broaden their potential buyers... or they might make it all bound to character just to try to get people to spend more, be ready for anything from Cryptic marketing.
I'd be very surprised if it was a faction. More likely the traditional RSE going on the offensive, the Tal Shiar and Sela 'marching beneath the Raptor's wings,' with the Iconians directing them from the shadows. Another FE seems much more likely than the resources necessary to do another faction, even one merely Klingon sized. Besides, it means we get to advance the main plot again, the Federation heroically defending the quadrant and the Klingons messily killing both their favorite enemies and the people who ultimately manipulated them.
1. The 2800 Teaser happened at least 2 months before release, and there were lot of speculations when they released it ... including playable Cardassians ... so we didn't exactly "knew" what is was either ...
2. They already told us about "at least 1 FE with Season 8" just like they told us "no Romulan Faction before Season 9"
We're still talking two months versus a little over three between now and May (four if they don't release until the end of May). That's a considerable difference. That said, the teaser could just be interpreted a lot of ways, one of them being a return of Sela in force; an army marching under the raptor's wings, as it were.
As for two, they also tell us nearly constantly, "plans change". I'm just saying, we might be looking at a rare instance of plans changing in our favor rather than resulting in another disappointing push-back for no clear quality gain.
YES!! Time to restore the Empire to glory. Death to our enemies, the stars will run red and pink with their blood.
Like the Romulan Alliance System? Of course you do, it sounds fine to you because you aren't Romulans, you're FED or KDF who are going to make a Romulan alt, it makes a HUGE difference in perspective.
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They took the name from a Star Trek Enterprise book. http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Enterprise-Romulan-Beneath/dp/145160582X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359602569&sr=1-1&keywords=beneath+the+raptor%27s+wing
Facepalm ! C?mon Cryptic, you can?t even come up with an original name for the next season?!?
The doors, Mister Scott!
"ZERO idea" is a pretty silly statement. The picture is Romulan; that is a fact not a guess. The phrase "march beneath the raptor's wings", with the raptor being the Romulan figurehead, implies allegiance to the Romulans. Fed and KDF captains allegiance is to their respective factions, not the Romulans. So while we do not know exactly what they are planning, saying we have "ZERO idea" is just wrong.
That's not to say that there are KDF fans and players out there, but really this whole "build it and they will come" philosophy that KDF players are clinging to is really getting dusty. KDF interest has long since peaked and people finally need to come to grips with the fact there just really aren't that many interested, and again I personally think alot of this is because the KDF are so overused and hence have become boring.
Romulans apart from the whole reunification saga still have been largely untapped as a whole. Nemesis and other bits of ST have given us hints of the inter-workings of the Romulan Government, but the overall culture still remains largely a mystery. The fact there is so much that can be done with the Romulans that really hasn't been seen before (and the fact the ships look cool as hell), of course there is going to be a huge amount of interest in a RSE faction. A Romulan faction and the KDF faction have absolutely nothing to do with each other and just because one has become a developmental and financial failure doesn't mean the other will be.
I think what most KDF players are forgetting is that the KDF and the UFP have/had been allies for so long, where as the KDF and RSE have been mortal enemies for so long that having a RSE faction, and the subsequent RSE VS KDF has the possibility to actually increase interest in the KDF.
Personally, if they add the RSE as a faction and have just enough DEV content to last until the foundry starts filling up with some good RSE story content I'd be more than happy and would probably for the more part ditch my FED for RSE in 2.2 secs.
A RSE faction may infact spark a rebirth for the KDF faction so to all the KDF out there don't come down on the idea of a RSE faction too hard.
Oh and just for the record.....
WARRIORS DO NOT WHINE, ONLY COWARDS WHINE!!!
WHERE'S YOUR HONOR??
We don't know if that's the name of next season, and I pretty sure they picked that phrase because some Trek fans would know what it means.
I don't know where that page came from. Did someone dig it up, or did it get leaked on purpose? Was tomorrow's one-off FE going to hint this way anyway? Only one thing is certain. If it's not a Romulan faction, after this thread, there's disaster movie panic levels inside Cryptic Studios. (Luckily, the roof's not that far off the ground.)
it was at the end of the anniversary video http://youtu.be/q4cKfh5mmIg?t=2m47s
While I doubt it, it COULD be the Featured Episode equivalent to The Enterprise Incident or Unification.
Ie. we all get surgically altered and pose as Romulans. That would be marching beneath the Raptor's wings too.
But let's be real:
It's a Romulan faction. If it's a complete Romulan faction, that's 50 episodes give or take that would be needed.
20 of those are taken care of with FEs. That means 30 new episodes. I bet 5 of those new episodes would be shared with Feds and KDF. Leaving 25 unique Romulan episodes to fill.
Which leaves Klingons with a 15 episode and a tutorial gap. Take 10 of those 25 Romulan episodes and share them with KDF (and NOT Feds).
The Romulans still have 15 unique episodes that way. Do 5 episodes for the KDF (actually, 4 counting the 3rd anniversary mission) and a tutorial and the Klingon faction is "complete." Wrap a bow on it.
Now, the Romulans would then have 35 missions in common with the KDF but 15 unique and a unique tutorial.
And with FEs at that point accounting for 26+ missions, the idea if probably that 50% or more of any new factions will be FE play.
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Romulans will be a very PvP based faction.
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i agree with you on this. old romulan empire which will start with a FE series. i also think that it will fill out kdf content as well as setting the stage for a romulan faction. just think about it, season 8 is slated to be out in may (ask cryptic: january 2013). maybe the title of the season? but who knows, we can all speculate their reason behind their tease. and we all know that there will be disappointment, especially for all that want a romulan faction.
honestly, we all know they didn't use denise crosby for one special mission, and why in the pc gamer video would they place the teaser after the three year anniversary clip with denise's voice over of yar.
my thoughts: klingon content with their 'blood enemy', romulan FE series based around the new romulus leader with unificationist ideals and the return of sela (that would play into the new romulus adventure zone being neutral ground for current factions), setting the stage for a new faction for release of season 9 (which unfortunately will end up like the current kdf, ask for more content, but that would have been an easy fix to have a special team work on that and have a larger general patch.....hint hint.), and more adventure zones (which are great, but could use one for kdf and fed for their war, because pvp or story missions does not do the so-called war justice)
lets just wait and see
I want to see what this place is like then. It would be absolutely glorious.
There's been absolutely zero indication at any point ever that Romulans as a faction will happen pre-season 9, so if all that's been a ruse... it's one of the greatest ruses in MMO history.
Doesn't seem at all likely though. Much more likely the game is doing well enough to just afford a bit of self-promotion.
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I want a Faction, but to have a faction they'd have to have done a complete storyline like they did on the FED side, i don't see that happening with their budget/number of employees.
Maybe it is just the next FE, and a really good FE at that.
I think also KDF might get more content in S8, but I don't see how that relates to the romulan teaser.
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The only one who is hyping, are people who can't manage their expactations like you :P
They "hyped" the last FE exactly the same way ... still not playing as one of the 2800 though ...
http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2012/02/2800.jpg
Cryptic overhyping things is not exactly NEW either, though .... still waiting for these 10-15 FE's per year they were talking about in 2010
True. It could be they just have enough money to throw around to afford a fancy teaser.
But still... why this far in advance? I don't recall the 2800 teaser being put out literally months in advance, and certainly not before we knew what it was. And why timed so well with S8? Possibly coincidence, possibly has nothing to do with anything, but peculiar enough to warrant mention.
Considering that, and the fact we know of no other actual story/mission content in the works post-Anniversary... It reminds me of the Drought of 2011 when they all ducked their heads down to revamp every old mission to scale for F2P.
Fits my predictions for a Romulan Faction. No way, even staffed up, they'd be able to churn out a whole faction without all hands on deck aside from a skeleton crew doing appeasement work for lockbox/C-Store. I'd expect a whole lot of nearly nothing between mid-February and May.
If it is an FE, they'll tell us well before May anyway. Can't think of a time they haven't.
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1. The 2800 Teaser happened at least 2 months before release, and there were lot of speculations when they released it ... including playable Cardassians ... so we didn't exactly "knew" what is was either ...
2. They already told us about "at least 1 FE with Season 8" just like they told us "no Romulan Faction before Season 9"
I think this as well, minus any interest whatsoever in the Romulans (Romulans??!! BAH! HUMBUG!!)
I do think that they could still be done as a sort of top heavy faction. Maybe.. 10 missions that level you up to lvl 50, or maybe you just have to do the missions as an introduction while already being 50? Then all they'd need to do is add proper Doffing assignments, a sector or two, and a few base costumes and ships... and everything else could be C-store/Lobi. Basically they make it as short as possible while opening up on the things they could sell. That would be an ideal way for them to introduce new factions, make them require a lvl X fed character, offer up a short introductorey set of missions and off they go... each faction would be accompanied by the appropriate C-store/Lobi releases of course.
If they have any foresight they will make as much faction neutral clothing as they can, things most humanoids can easily wear to broaden their potential buyers... or they might make it all bound to character just to try to get people to spend more, be ready for anything from Cryptic marketing.
We're still talking two months versus a little over three between now and May (four if they don't release until the end of May). That's a considerable difference. That said, the teaser could just be interpreted a lot of ways, one of them being a return of Sela in force; an army marching under the raptor's wings, as it were.
As for two, they also tell us nearly constantly, "plans change". I'm just saying, we might be looking at a rare instance of plans changing in our favor rather than resulting in another disappointing push-back for no clear quality gain.
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