You all are forgetting the simple thing. Its a 9 console ship. Which logical means, they are going to sell us a 10 console upgraded version in the c-store or in the fleet store.
You all are forgetting the simple thing. Its a 9 console ship. Which logical means, they are going to sell us a 10 console upgraded version in the c-store or in the fleet store.
As long as we can unlock it with a tier 1 shipyard, and not a tier 5 shipyard. Or make it a 500 zen C-store ship for LTS SUBS ONLY!
altho both options are animal poo ( keeping it polite here ) It should be on par with Fleet right from the get go, They upgrade the Lockbox ships to be onpar why not this ship?! :mad:
Talking to my self, asking stuff to my self, definitely not understanding my self. Such is the life of an overworked Starfleet admiral.
You all are forgetting the simple thing. Its a 9 console ship. Which logical means, they are going to sell us a 10 console upgraded version in the c-store or in the fleet store.
Most likely a fleet store version since anyone and everyone can buy one.
That was only because when the ship "jumped", the main power core vanished, so in order to fire the gun, they have to reconfigure the ship to make connections between the secondary power core(s) and the main gun. To this day I still don't know why they didn't just build a big switch or something to bridge the gap, but whatever.
This ship is apparently designed to have it's main arrays "hidden" when not in use. Presumably to avoid an "aggressive" look (which to me is more deceptive than just having the weapons there to begin with).
Heh. This is SO off-topic.
I just finished watching the entire Macross Franchise with my nephew, save for the last couple of episodes that we have yet to get to (and the new FB7 movie, obviously).
Anyway, the SDF-01 was required to transform before it lost the SpaceFold Engine. The twin booms had to slide apart and their center portions had to rotate in order to create the 'barrel' for the quantum energy cannon.
As for why they didn't just build a switch, the Fold Engine never defolded, but it was not gone in the literal sense. It was still 'there' and still constantly produced the energy, it was just out of dimensional phase. They showed it once. It was all black and sparkly.
I assume that they could not build anything in that space because the crew would have been fried if they stepped in to the area by the flowing energies. That was they had to reconfigure the ship, so that only the parts vessel that were designed to hold the quantum energy would enter the area where the Fold Generator was as they would not be harmed by it.
James was right, that KDF with the Battle Cloak looks darn sweet. I'm wondering just how over powering that multi-target Disruptor Javelin is going to be
On the Fed side, this makes me even more sad for the Dreadnought. The fact that this ship only has 9 consoles really is sorta a let down from everything I was expecting. This really does mean Cryptic/PWE want you to pay for the extra console slot. Don't get me wrong, awesome ships, both of them. Give it 10 consoles and make people wait to get it, this is suppose to be the ultimate reward.
Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
James was right, that KDF with the Battle Cloak looks darn sweet. I'm wondering just how over powering that multi-target Disruptor Javelin is going to be
On the Fed side, this makes me even more sad for the Dreadnought. The fact that this ship only has 9 consoles really is sorta a let down from everything I was expecting. This really does mean Cryptic/PWE want you to pay for the extra console slot. Don't get me wrong, awesome ships, both of them. Give it 10 consoles and make people wait to get it, this is suppose to be the ultimate reward.
Don't feel so bad for the poor Dreadnought, it does have 8 weapon slots and not 7.
I'll add that due to a combination of price and apparent lack of desire to have an upgraded version if I understand Geko's posts correctly, they should go ahead and make this ten console.
Just make it an extra sci console though. It encourages making it a C-Store console dump slot and balances this out in adirection where Sci Captains may want it for regen mode.
Just make it an extra sci console though. It encourages making it a C-Store console dump slot and balances this out in adirection where Sci Captains may want it for regen mode.
I know how you feel, I'm a tac that tends to focus on sci too, but I was thinking of either another Engi Console or a Universal Console slot (evil grin). Goes with the rest of the ships seating a bit, it is a tactical vessel, but is split even between science and engineering, it would only make sense to have 3 engineering, 3 science and 4 tactical. This would allow the Universal BOFF slots be the deciding factor. If it had been up to me, that universal Ensign would of been a universal Lt. since that Lt.Cmdr is already going to science.
Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
I know how you feel, I'm a tac that tends to focus on sci too, but I was thinking of either another Engi Console or a Universal Console slot (evil grin). Goes with the rest of the ships seating a bit, it is a tactical vessel, but is split even between science and engineering, it would only make sense to have 3 engineering, 3 science and 4 tactical. This would allow the Universal BOFF slots be the deciding factor. If it had been up to me, that universal Ensign would of been a universal Lt. since that Lt.Cmdr is already going to science.
Well, I don't focus on science, really. For me, an extra sci-console would leave me looking for a C-Store console to drop in the slot.
I just think that extra sci console would be a nice token gesture whereas an extra engineering or tac console would make this ship a REPLACEMENT for other ships rather than something cool on its own.
Actually, what I'd like to see them do is give these ships a carrier Boff layout.
Cmdr Tac
Lt Cmdr Sci
Lt Cmdr Engi
Lt Universal
Gives a nice, well rounded ship that can go offensive or full up cruiser depending on how you staff her. Having 10 console slots would be nice, but mixed with the rest of the ship the suggested Boff Seating would make her killer.
And being able to use a fed cloaking device would be nice. Just saying, since they're prototypes.
And sensor analysis, since this is supposed to be the Super Prototype unholy stepchild of an Escort, Sci ship and Light Cruiser.
... Am I the only one who thought "Death Blossom" at the Lotus mode pics?
Maybe.
=edit=
Well I had been thinking it would be nifty if the devs would add another vet reward to 1000 days where the full Admiral rank was unlocked for us, maybe even Fleet Admiral; but now they've made it so purchasing the LTS immediately unlocks all vet rewards, so perhaps that wouldn't be so nifty, after all.
anyone anywhere say anything about a new interior for the ship?
No interior.
Looks like maybe no ship until tomorrow too, despite rewards previously unlocking at x99.1 as opposed to x00.0 this time that is apparently failing to be the case. So I guess actual 1000 Day Vets aren't even going to get a few hours of early access, even though by all previous accounts they should be getting just that...
There are no Vets anymore, just people who have played the game for a long time...
I'm kinda bitter at this development, though on the positive side it means that I don't have to wait till Dec to get this new ship...
I wonder if They will at least acknowledge in some manner those of us who have been around since the beginning with something else special...
...probably not...
I think at the very least, the assorted Titles should not be given out except to those who have Actually been around long enough to Earn Them!
I wanna Yaay and Boo at the same time at the moment...
<grumble, grumble..grumble>
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I wonder if They will at least acknowledge in some manner those of us who have been around since the beginning with something else special...
...probably not...
I believe they still haven't reinstated the Ambassador and, what was it... Emissary? titles yet. The ones for early adoption that already existed that they unceremoniously dumped with the PWE switch over. So probably not is no doubt the right answer.
They also haven't fixed "Join Date: Jun 2012" on the forums, and probably never will, nor do anything about that.
It's like they're trying to conceal how many actual "old timers" there are... maybe because there's such an embarrassingly small number of us left...
I believe they still haven't reinstated the Ambassador and, what was it... Emissary? titles yet. The ones for early adoption that already existed that they unceremoniously dumped with the PWE switch over. So probably not is no doubt the right answer.
They also haven't fixed "Join Date: Jun 2012" on the forums, and probably never will, nor do anything about that.
It's like they're trying to conceal how many actual "old timers" there are... maybe because there's such an embarrassingly small number of us left...
This 'old timer' is having a hard time at the moment reconciling his feelings toward this recent development...
But..., like yesterdays tuna casserole...
...This too shall pass.
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@TheEvilJelly is there gonna be a way for silver members and people who arn't 1000 day vets to get a variation of the ship @CaptainGeko No plans for that. How much would that enrage vets?
So, "no plans at this time" for this to be a C-Store ship.
1000 Day Veteran Exclusive Starship Variant only.
Didn't take very long for those plans to change. :rolleyes:
I can just imagine the conversations,
"Well they're not technically c-store ships."
"Technically, no, but they are now available for purchase. Just as if they were on the C-Store."
"Not 'just as if it were on the C-Store'... It costs a heck of a lot more."
"Ah yes. Right. So obvious.... So it's more like a pair of lockbox ships."
"... Don't you have something you should be doing?"
There are no Vets anymore, just people who have played the game for a long time...
Hate to say it, but yeah......
Guess this pretty much answers the question if "there is going to be any future Veteran Rewards past 1000 Days?". From here on out, everything we originals had, is now a signing up perk as part of a new LTS package.
Just got to try out the new ships (and enjoy the 2 extra ship slots that I needed. ).
Ship BOFF Slots: Like it's variation where it could be a pure escort, which can be like an older T5 escort with a universal slot of your choosing). And doesn't make the MVAM or the T5 Akira out of date. At the same time giving a flexability that can give it high damage tactical cruiser with a higher survivability with a LTC Engineering or LTC Science.
Chimera Looks: The Chimera is good looking in base form, but was hoping you slimed down the guppy mouth on Vektor's original design.
Don't like the Transformation, it's like it's transforming into a Hamburger. More or less, whats with the glowing edges? What are they supposed to be?
Puj Looks: Gawd, this has to be the UGLIEST Klingon ship of all times. And that Transformation is just outright stupid (no offense). When I we were told about transformations, I was expecting the nacelles adjust and the guns move forward, not some lame glowing thing that we are lead to believe is a weapon system?
If it wasn't for the looks, I honestly would probablly retire the Raptor.
The game is patching 1133mb of data. It's just a pity Cryptic decided to put a damper of it by making it an instant unlock. There could have been a couple of weeks were true 1000 day players could have felt special since the Vet rewards were separate from a lifetime subscription. Now there isn't really Vet rewards anymore as is there a point to paying 1000 days worth of monthly subs when a LTS is much better value?
Still, I can't say it was unexpected after all this is what they do. The free Odyssey was just an advert for the pack like this is an advert for the LTS. I'm still burned from when the TOS bundle came out back when it cost real money and it said =
Limited Time Offer!
Purchase the Value Bundle TODAY and you'll also receive:
Federation Costume Pack: TOS Dress Uniform
Federation Costume Pack: TOS Medical Uniform
Federation Costume Pack: TOS Command Tunic
So I bought it expecting the uniforms to be removed. They weren't and then the pack went on sale. The description remains and the uniforms are really just a part of the pack. There was never anything limited about them. It's not the money but the lies that I hate.
I don't mind non-1000 day players getting this ship but it'd be better if it was reduced to a year or even 100 days because they won't get the feeling of achievement or anticipation having it all immediately.
Just got to try out the new ships (and enjoy the 2 extra ship slots that I needed. ).
Ship BOFF Slots: Like it's variation where it could be a pure escort, which can be like an older T5 escort with a universal slot of your choosing). And doesn't make the MVAM or the T5 Akira out of date. At the same time giving a flexability that can give it high damage tactical cruiser with a higher survivability with a LTC Engineering or LTC Science.
Chimera Looks: The Chimera is good looking in base form, but was hoping you slimed down the guppy mouth on Vektor's original design.
Don't like the Transformation, it's like it's transforming into a Hamburger. More or less, whats with the glowing edges? What are they supposed to be?
Puj Looks: Gawd, this has to be the UGLIEST Klingon ship of all times. And that Transformation is just outright stupid (no offense). When I we were told about transformations, I was expecting the nacelles adjust and the guns move forward, not some lame glowing thing that we are lead to believe is a weapon system?
If it wasn't for the looks, I honestly would probablly retire the Raptor.
Those are the super beam arrays for the lotus weapon, at least the beams fired from those locations for me.
Don't like the Transformation, it's like it's transforming into a Hamburger.
Hamburgers are my favorite food! Now I can play the game, get hungry looking they Lotus Transformation, sue the company for making me fat. My Vet Reward will be $2.6 million USD.
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Its more like 3%, hardly the gamebreaker you make it out to be.
As long as we can unlock it with a tier 1 shipyard, and not a tier 5 shipyard. Or make it a 500 zen C-store ship for LTS SUBS ONLY!
altho both options are animal poo ( keeping it polite here ) It should be on par with Fleet right from the get go, They upgrade the Lockbox ships to be onpar why not this ship?! :mad:
Most likely a fleet store version since anyone and everyone can buy one.
Heh. This is SO off-topic.
I just finished watching the entire Macross Franchise with my nephew, save for the last couple of episodes that we have yet to get to (and the new FB7 movie, obviously).
Anyway, the SDF-01 was required to transform before it lost the SpaceFold Engine. The twin booms had to slide apart and their center portions had to rotate in order to create the 'barrel' for the quantum energy cannon.
As for why they didn't just build a switch, the Fold Engine never defolded, but it was not gone in the literal sense. It was still 'there' and still constantly produced the energy, it was just out of dimensional phase. They showed it once. It was all black and sparkly.
I assume that they could not build anything in that space because the crew would have been fried if they stepped in to the area by the flowing energies. That was they had to reconfigure the ship, so that only the parts vessel that were designed to hold the quantum energy would enter the area where the Fold Generator was as they would not be harmed by it.
On the Fed side, this makes me even more sad for the Dreadnought. The fact that this ship only has 9 consoles really is sorta a let down from everything I was expecting. This really does mean Cryptic/PWE want you to pay for the extra console slot. Don't get me wrong, awesome ships, both of them. Give it 10 consoles and make people wait to get it, this is suppose to be the ultimate reward.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Don't feel so bad for the poor Dreadnought, it does have 8 weapon slots and not 7.
Just make it an extra sci console though. It encourages making it a C-Store console dump slot and balances this out in adirection where Sci Captains may want it for regen mode.
I know how you feel, I'm a tac that tends to focus on sci too, but I was thinking of either another Engi Console or a Universal Console slot (evil grin). Goes with the rest of the ships seating a bit, it is a tactical vessel, but is split even between science and engineering, it would only make sense to have 3 engineering, 3 science and 4 tactical. This would allow the Universal BOFF slots be the deciding factor. If it had been up to me, that universal Ensign would of been a universal Lt. since that Lt.Cmdr is already going to science.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Well, I don't focus on science, really. For me, an extra sci-console would leave me looking for a C-Store console to drop in the slot.
I just think that extra sci console would be a nice token gesture whereas an extra engineering or tac console would make this ship a REPLACEMENT for other ships rather than something cool on its own.
Cmdr Tac
Lt Cmdr Sci
Lt Cmdr Engi
Lt Universal
Gives a nice, well rounded ship that can go offensive or full up cruiser depending on how you staff her. Having 10 console slots would be nice, but mixed with the rest of the ship the suggested Boff Seating would make her killer.
And being able to use a fed cloaking device would be nice. Just saying, since they're prototypes.
And sensor analysis, since this is supposed to be the Super Prototype unholy stepchild of an Escort, Sci ship and Light Cruiser.
Maybe.
=edit=
Well I had been thinking it would be nifty if the devs would add another vet reward to 1000 days where the full Admiral rank was unlocked for us, maybe even Fleet Admiral; but now they've made it so purchasing the LTS immediately unlocks all vet rewards, so perhaps that wouldn't be so nifty, after all.
No interior.
Looks like maybe no ship until tomorrow too, despite rewards previously unlocking at x99.1 as opposed to x00.0 this time that is apparently failing to be the case. So I guess actual 1000 Day Vets aren't even going to get a few hours of early access, even though by all previous accounts they should be getting just that...
I'm kinda bitter at this development, though on the positive side it means that I don't have to wait till Dec to get this new ship...
I wonder if They will at least acknowledge in some manner those of us who have been around since the beginning with something else special...
...probably not...
I think at the very least, the assorted Titles should not be given out except to those who have Actually been around long enough to Earn Them!
I wanna Yaay and Boo at the same time at the moment...
<grumble, grumble..grumble>
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
I believe they still haven't reinstated the Ambassador and, what was it... Emissary? titles yet. The ones for early adoption that already existed that they unceremoniously dumped with the PWE switch over. So probably not is no doubt the right answer.
They also haven't fixed "Join Date: Jun 2012" on the forums, and probably never will, nor do anything about that.
It's like they're trying to conceal how many actual "old timers" there are... maybe because there's such an embarrassingly small number of us left...
This 'old timer' is having a hard time at the moment reconciling his feelings toward this recent development...
But..., like yesterdays tuna casserole...
...This too shall pass.
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Personally, I am indifferent toward this Vet Rewards development.
I do think the new Fed ship is pretty nifty. In a lot of ways, it was what I had jokingly asked for months ago. So I am eager to try it out.
I am the same. I do not know what it is to feel anymore so it's all just background noise to me now.
Oh well, I get some new ships to play with a few days early.
Didn't take very long for those plans to change. :rolleyes:
I can just imagine the conversations,
"Well they're not technically c-store ships."
"Technically, no, but they are now available for purchase. Just as if they were on the C-Store."
"Not 'just as if it were on the C-Store'... It costs a heck of a lot more."
"Ah yes. Right. So obvious.... So it's more like a pair of lockbox ships."
"... Don't you have something you should be doing?"
Wow... that's just fail. Looks like some PWE CEO decided to overrule it, disregarding the Veterans in this case.
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Preeee~cisely! I am going to go. And I am going to enjoy my new toys. And I am going to be happy about it.
Hate to say it, but yeah......
Guess this pretty much answers the question if "there is going to be any future Veteran Rewards past 1000 Days?". From here on out, everything we originals had, is now a signing up perk as part of a new LTS package.
just going to bust some chops here but....when you buy a LTS you're no longer a silver player
Ship BOFF Slots: Like it's variation where it could be a pure escort, which can be like an older T5 escort with a universal slot of your choosing). And doesn't make the MVAM or the T5 Akira out of date. At the same time giving a flexability that can give it high damage tactical cruiser with a higher survivability with a LTC Engineering or LTC Science.
Chimera Looks: The Chimera is good looking in base form, but was hoping you slimed down the guppy mouth on Vektor's original design.
Don't like the Transformation, it's like it's transforming into a Hamburger. More or less, whats with the glowing edges? What are they supposed to be?
Puj Looks: Gawd, this has to be the UGLIEST Klingon ship of all times. And that Transformation is just outright stupid (no offense). When I we were told about transformations, I was expecting the nacelles adjust and the guns move forward, not some lame glowing thing that we are lead to believe is a weapon system?
If it wasn't for the looks, I honestly would probablly retire the Raptor.
Still, I can't say it was unexpected after all this is what they do. The free Odyssey was just an advert for the pack like this is an advert for the LTS. I'm still burned from when the TOS bundle came out back when it cost real money and it said =
So I bought it expecting the uniforms to be removed. They weren't and then the pack went on sale. The description remains and the uniforms are really just a part of the pack. There was never anything limited about them. It's not the money but the lies that I hate.
I don't mind non-1000 day players getting this ship but it'd be better if it was reduced to a year or even 100 days because they won't get the feeling of achievement or anticipation having it all immediately.
Those are the super beam arrays for the lotus weapon, at least the beams fired from those locations for me.
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Dedication Plaque: "Nil Intentatum Reliquit"
Hamburgers are my favorite food! Now I can play the game, get hungry looking they Lotus Transformation, sue the company for making me fat. My Vet Reward will be $2.6 million USD.