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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    daan2006 wrote: »

    That's what Dan said. They agreed they wouldn't be making it "as envisioned." CBS said, "Make it as envisioned or don't put it in."
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    Might be a rarity issue if they give us ships that looks like it belongs in the 29th Century. The amount of people that will reach 1000 days or even reach 1000 days will be the total amount of lifetime subscribers minus lifers that will never play this game again. I doubt that even 1% of the players in this game will ever reach the 1000 day veteran reward. I have just over a month to go for whatever this ship would be.

    Of course, it might be possible that these ships are based on designs that the Department of Temporal Investigations and their KDF counterpart took on the Wells and Korath ships. So there will be some minor improvements that these ships have, but nowhere near what a ship 400 years in the future would have compared to present day starships.

    Of course, it is more likely that these are npc models for a future time travel mission or a mission that has been scrapped and we will never see it. I have no idea what the 1000 day veteran reward ship will look like, but since it says starship variant, then chances are that it will be a retrofit.

    I'd guess almost 20% of the players are lifers although maybe about half of lifers don't play at all. Beyond that, many subbers have days built up. (I figure there's a good 50k lifers.)

    I can see where they'd do this to get people to resub. A subscription becomes a timeship installment plan. I can also see where they might change vet rewards so that lifers get them all instantly in order to push impulse sales of lifetime accounts.

    They said they were looking at adding value to subbing. My theory is that vet rewards ARE the value in subbing in their model. If you want them, sub for 'em.
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    tosveteranstosveterans Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I think that the real special surprise is that Cryptic was told by CBS that all the real Star Trek fans have been around for over 1000 days and should be allowed to receive a Tier 6 Connie of their choice ;)
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    ortsimortsim Member Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I'm kind of curious how they'll go about it.

    I wonder if it might be a non-standard ship like the lockbox ones. Perhaps even one that levels with the player, though I doubt they have the tech for that. Common sense makes me assume that whatever it is, its not going to be the best out there, but it should be something neat to look at or operate. Maybe a Vice Admiral Gold plated Connie? =p.

    I doubt CBS would allow anything too far out of the way, which is why I'm thinking it will be token based choice between the three main types of ships (probably a variant of the Defiant, Galaxy, and Intrepid), possibly with more universal bridge officers slots, and maybe a special power/console included that references the shows they originated from.
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ortsim wrote: »
    I'm kind of curious how they'll go about it.

    I wonder if it might be a non-standard ship like the lockbox ones. Perhaps even one that levels with the player, though I doubt they have the tech for that. Common sense makes me assume that whatever it is, its not going to be the best out there, but it should be something neat to look at or operate. Maybe a Vice Admiral Gold plated Connie? =p.

    I doubt CBS would allow anything too far out of the way, which is why I'm thinking it will be token based choice between the three main types of ships (probably a variant of the Defiant, Galaxy, and Intrepid), possibly with more universal bridge officers slots, and maybe a special power/console included that references the shows they originated from.

    Ships that level with you is impossible with the current system. Each ship uses a model that indicates weapon, console, and boff layout. Since this is the biggest difference between ship tiers, then to do a ship that levels with you would mean to replace the ship at each tier. Most likely is part of the reason why we have to purchase Fleet Ships instead of using an upgrade to improve our ships.
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    xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    hravik wrote: »

    I do hope that its 1000 day rewards "wells class" make me soooo happy, problalby jump out of my seat with so excitement.
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    shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    apparently not the wells so a dev said in game.
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    sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I want the 1000 Day Reward to include the Veteran Bridge Officer they got for the S5 dilithium conversion. Because honestly the 800 day Mugato sucked pretty hard.
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    captainmerzancaptainmerzan Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I want the 1000 Day Reward to include the Veteran Bridge Officer they got for the S5 dilithium conversion. Because honestly the 800 day Mugato sucked pretty hard.

    Hey hey hey now no bad mouthing the monkey hehehehehehehe
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    foxfire2000foxfire2000 Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I want the 1000 Day Reward to include the Veteran Bridge Officer they got for the S5 dilithium conversion. Because honestly the 800 day Mugato sucked pretty hard.

    Sounds like your's has a added feature that's sounds nice. lol
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    palpha2clearancepalpha2clearance Member Posts: 432 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    jcsww wrote: »
    The Wells would be an awesome ship to have for the 1,000 Day Vet Reward. It would be the first time int he history of Veteran Rewards that Cryptic actually gave the playerbase something that they actually want.

    I wanted my android?
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    psymantispsymantis Member Posts: 329 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The 1000 day ship is a Dyson Sphere.
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    apparently not the wells so a dev said in game.

    Hm? Any clue what dev?
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    assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hm? Any clue what dev?

    I call pics or it dinnae happen.:D
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I call pics or it dinnae happen.:D

    I really don't like accusing people of dishonesty. I'm sure that's what the poster thought he saw.

    BUT... We do have a history in this game of people misinterpreting devs and playing the telephone game with dev comments.

    So a dev could say something like:

    "I wouldn't be so sure the Wells is a thousand day reward."
    "I wouldn't say that the Wells is the 1000 day reward."
    "Why would we give a timeship as a thousand day reward...?"
    "The ship you saw leaked isn't the 1000 day reward."

    None of which would actually rule out the Wells if you look at them legalistically.

    The first two are indications of what the dev can say, not what is planned or what will happen. The third is a plot/feature tease that, if said, would pretty much confirm the Wells as the reward. The fourth could just mean there are art and mechanics tweak or that the vet reward is a timeship variant rather than the canon class. (Ie. The Vet reward ship unlocks a ship with one costume. Maybe a lockbox unlocks it with the canon costume.)

    But as I've seen with players, if a dev made any one of those four statements, a sizable chunk of our playerbase would walk away saying a dev had "denied" it.
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    We know that whatever it is, we've likely seen at least some of the art for it somewhere in game.

    My guesses:

    The Timeships, whatever anybody says.

    T5/Fleet Tier Excalibur (Really, this one is an odd case, which might justify odd distribution) and a corresponding T5 B'rel retrofit.

    Fleet Tier version of one of the non-Fleet represented T5 ships. (Ie. say... Galaxy Dreadnaught and Guramba Siege Destroyer at Fleet Tier.)

    Cross-faction ships with art tweaks. Ie. Fed Bird of Prey in grey hull/blue and red nacelles with 2409 texture and bits and/or a green Fed ship with yellow impulse engines.

    Mirror Universe versions of popular ships. (Maybe coupled with prior suggestion, Mirror Dreadnaught and Siege Destroyer).

    Something on the order of the Tuffi. Ie. maybe something like a TOS Connie with sub-T5 stats but nice travel options, crafting, bank access, and ship swapping capability and corresponding Klingon ship (a D7?).

    Undine ship. Same stats between Fed and KDF. 10 console slots, one taken up by a "mode toggle" console like the Ferengi D'Kora. This swaps it between Cruiser/Escort/Science and whenever it takes on those forms, it takes on the look of one of those ships. (For Feds, for example, maybe its appearance toggles between Defiant/Intrepid/Galaxy depending on the toggle that's activated and defaults to Undine when not activated.) Comes with an Undine bridge but can use any bridge.
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    captaintrueheartcaptaintrueheart Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    azerdraco wrote: »
    GOLD Master Keys - one free per month to all Gold Members - allows you to open 10 lockboxes of your choice.
    Latinum Series Master Keys - available only to Gold members with 500 days or more - allows you to open any number of lockboxs of a particular series (Each series key sold seperately) - available for the price of a 10 pack of regular keys in the Z Store
    Latinum Master Key - K Series - A reward at 1000 days - Bound to Account, so it can be traded across characters - Allows unlimited opening of all lockboxes released up to and including the 1000 day mark of the game. (This means that the K1 series released with the 1000 day rewards would open Cardassian, Ferengi, and Tholian Lockboxes.)

    That would never happen as I have a suspicious feeling the bulk of their "profit" comes from people who are long time veterans to the game.

    They want people paying for the Gold plus paying for everything else... They can't afford to just nickle and dime the silver players, I guess.
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    assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I really don't like accusing people of dishonesty. I'm sure that's what the poster thought he saw.

    Woah, woah, I wasn't accusing anyone of dishonesty. But as you say there is a lot of room for mistakes, so the best thing if you see a dev saying something like that is to grab a screenshot. Just to make sure that you didn't overlook a word or read a message by someone with a name similar to a dev etc...
    We know that whatever it is, we've likely seen at least some of the art for it somewhere in game.

    My guesses:

    The Timeships, whatever anybody says.

    T5/Fleet Tier Excalibur (Really, this one is an odd case, which might justify odd distribution) and a corresponding T5 B'rel retrofit.

    I would say timeship too, otherwise there would be no reason for the Korath. I would prefer Excalibur but that shouldn't be such a special case and a lot of people probably would be less happy with it than with the Wells and Korath.
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    szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    It's now official. The 1000 day Veteran Reward will be the Mirror Universe Miranda Class Starship. :eek::eek::eek: Congratulations!
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    theindefatigabletheindefatigable Member Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    With no disrespect intended to the original poster, somehow I find myself a lot more excited about an exclusive, really cool, really beautiful new ship than even the most special lock box keys. Look at it this way. I don't have nearly the piles of credits some players brag about having, but I still managed to obtain my Tholian Recluse Carrier off the Exchange by saving up 55 million EC and paying cash to get 10 master keys to sell on the exchange to make up the difference. That was right before the Regent-class became available (which I did buy using cash). Already, not too long after, I am past 30 million EC and getting close to the 38 million EC price of an Orb Weaver on the exchange...without using any real cash to kickstart things.

    All of my seven toons have their own Tholian silk scarves, and my main character has the robe as well. Didn't open a single Tholian lock box.

    I guess what I am saying is, many of us longtime players are going to be excited more by new, premium, exclusive content than by the ability to obtain more easily the stuff we can get anyway by playing the game.

    Looking at screenshots of the Wells and Korath class ships, I can say that if those really are the "Exclusive Starship Variants" for 1,000 day vets...as long as the ships are on par with Fleet Ships in terms of stats then I am quite excited about getting to 1,000 days.

    If "Exclusive Starship Variant" really does mean "variant," and we're looking at a Tier 5/6 Connie--preferably with the ability to use both the TOS skin and the later ship parts including the Exeter--that'll satisfy a lot of folks, perhaps a slightly different crowd, and while I'd rather have the Wells and Korath I'll still fly the Connie lots if it's statted well enough.

    If I had the ability to obtain pretty much any and all lockbox items I wanted, that would be awesome, but it wouldn't add any new and additional lockbox items to the list of items I could acquire through other means. Admittedly, there are items I couldn't acquire without spending loads of cash, such as the Ferengi space set, so that dampens my argument somewhat. Still, it seems a lot of people are more excited about the Wells, Korath, or some other ship variant. I wonder if this tells Cryptic anything? hmmm? Maybe sweeten some of the lower tier veteran rewards (for new subbers) and continue the program past 1,000 days (to keep lifers checking back in and long-term non-lifers re-upping)?
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    shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I really don't like accusing people of dishonesty. I'm sure that's what the poster thought he saw.

    BUT... We do have a history in this game of people misinterpreting devs and playing the telephone game with dev comments.

    So a dev could say something like:

    "I wouldn't be so sure the Wells is a thousand day reward."
    "I wouldn't say that the Wells is the 1000 day reward."
    "Why would we give a timeship as a thousand day reward...?"
    "The ship you saw leaked isn't the 1000 day reward."

    None of which would actually rule out the Wells if you look at them legalistically.

    The first two are indications of what the dev can say, not what is planned or what will happen. The third is a plot/feature tease that, if said, would pretty much confirm the Wells as the reward. The fourth could just mean there are art and mechanics tweak or that the vet reward is a timeship variant rather than the canon class. (Ie. The Vet reward ship unlocks a ship with one costume. Maybe a lockbox unlocks it with the canon costume.)

    But as I've seen with players, if a dev made any one of those four statements, a sizable chunk of our playerbase would walk away saying a dev had "denied" it.

    I said "1000 day vet reward in less then 50 days *cough wells*

    the dev said "Cough not the wells"
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    starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I said "1000 day vet reward in less then 50 days *cough wells*

    the dev said "Cough not the wells"

    Are you sure he was talking about the Wells Class ship and not other types of wells?

    It is not like they could verify it unless they have permission. So it could be misdirection. Unless some dev posts in this thread saying that the Wells Class ship will never be a playable ship, then there will always be doubt.
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    hrisvalarhrisvalar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    szim wrote: »
    It's now official. The 1000 day Veteran Reward will be the Mirror Universe Miranda Class Starship. :eek::eek::eek: Congratulations!

    As long as it's a T5, 2409-ized Miranda (Centaur saucer, Shi'kah nacelles and deflector, Miranda struts) I'll take it! No joke.
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    jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I'd be overjoyed if it was, "pick a ship, any ship in game, no charge, and now it's Tier-5 Fleet level."

    I'd be orgasmically excited it it was, "customize your own ship, whatever BOFF configuration you want" but the tech for that would be pretty tricky.

    Whatever it is, I hope there's choice involved. I hope it's something more than one shiny ship that you may or may not enjoy playing.
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Just curious what you think about the Undine ship?

    It's part of STO lore that Undine ships shapeshift.

    We also have ships (Siege Destroyer, D'Kora) that can virtually toggle between escort and cruiser. We have ships like the MVAM that have three modes.

    It actually seems pretty doable to me that you could have a ship that can toggle between four modes. (Likely a default "balanced" setting. Then Sci/Cruiser/Escort.)

    Now there are a couple of considerations on such a ship. It can equip cannons because it has an escort mode (like the D'Kora). So you need some balance in there.

    I think the balance would come from number of console slots (9 like the ships that have special powers and aren't getting a fleet tier upgrade) and the console/BO loadout... which I think would probably be more science and eng heavy.

    Maybe a 4 Sci/3 Eng/2 Tac console loadout. Can equip cannons. Gains subsystem targeting in Sci mode. Turnrate/hull/shields vary heavily by mode but maybe give it some extra oomph in Escort mode to offset the stats being sci/eng heavy. More shields and hull than a fleet tier ship by just a bit. BO slots with a high end Eng and Sci, everything else univeral.

    Takes on the look of a Galaxy/Intrepid/Defiant for Feds. Maybe Orion/Gorn/Nausicaan for Klingons. The individual versions are non-customizable (because they're costumes) but could be pre-fabbed using vet hull texture.

    Default mode is an Undine ship, unremarkable enough that nobody would stay in that mode but witha super-weapon energy drain beam overload special.

    Fed version comes with an Undine bridge but can use any other Fed interior. Klingon version comes with Undine bridge and can use any Klingon interior.
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    jermbotjermbot Member Posts: 801 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Mechanically an Undyne ship would be the best way to appeal to a wide variety of play styles. If it has to be only one ship your idea is hands down the best I've heard and I'd like to see that ship make it into the game regardless, particularly if they can design it so that changing forms mid-combat could become an interesting tactical decision. Obviously it would be capable of being anticipated and countered, but if used right it could give the captain a huge advantage. I think your idea is a good one, but I don't think it's right for the 1000 day Veteran Reward.

    You see, I think that the 1k Veteran Reward should appeal to every 1K Veteran in game and that is a pretty diverse segment of the population. What's more, I will go totally off the deep end and say that, in a perfect world, I'd want to see every 1k Veteran using their veteran reward. After all, this is the reward we've all been waiting for, this is the big one and I don't want to see any player left utterly disappointed. So, with inclusiveness as my primary hope for the 1K veteran reward I don't like your idea because it will disappoint quite a lot of people in three ways. First, and least importantly, anyone cannon obsessed may not be interested in flying an Undyne ship, even if it can transform into a Galaxy. Then there's the physical appearance of these forms, I like the Defiant-R, but not as much as I like the Dervish, that sort of makes me a freak and I acknowledge that. I don't like the Intrepid at all, I'd take the Recon Sci Vessel over it any day of the week, but I recognize that even more people love the look o the Nova. You can't make believable transformation animations that cover every ship in the game. But most importantly it comes down to how effective these forms will be. Even if they are on par with the best ships in game, they will invariably be slanted towards one role or another and so less effective for the rest of the forms roles. I don't just mean Cruiser/Escort/Sci here, I'm thinking more along the lines of DPS Cruiser/Tank Cruiser/Glass Cannon Escort/Survival Focused Escort/Debuff Sci/Healer Sci and so on. You can get around some of this by allowing universal BoFF stations but... only some of this.


    So, I'd still prefer all that art and mechanical effort be put towards creating a more varied range of less striking choices. Klingon variants of existing Federation ships or Federation variants of existing Klingon ships would be out there possibilities, but I'd feel my sub money well spent if we just got to redeem for free one of a cluster of special cosmetic veteran variants of lockbox and fleet level ships. And if they let us tailor the BOFF layout ourselves, I'll be over the moon.
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    starfleetfcstarfleetfc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    If the 1000 day vessel is a T5 Connie I will spontaneously combust.
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    thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    If the 1000 day vessel is a T5 Connie I will spontaneously combust.
    That will NEVER happen. The nerd rage that would cause on the forum would make the internet combust. :)
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    syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    That will NEVER happen. The nerd rage that would cause on the forum would make the internet combust. :)

    Not to mention every player over 40 would never buy another ship again. :)
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