Neither a lack of skill, nor patience, it's that it's designed as a gimped Oddy without those graces that apply to KDF Battle cruisers.
On my fed I can handle a "Slow turning ship" pretty easily-it's just that the experience on anything OTHER than a fed engineer makes my teeth hurt.
On the original topic, however-the Jupiter is (based on the art, and on appearances in PvE events like FM missions) the epitome of the slow, heavy, "Hit me if you dare" cruiser-the kind of cruiser we see in a somewhat lesser form with the Exploration cruiser series, and it would NOT generate the level of irritation that the Bort generated on the KDF side for being the same kind of ride.
Because it fits the Doctrine, what is called the "Faction 'Feeling'" in some circles, of the Federation's larger ship classes.
i.e. slow turning with lots of power, heavy shields, and thick, heavy hull. the Jupe would FIT.
You don't need the manuverabilty of KDF battlecruisers in PVE if you can handle manuvering a Bortasqu, my Command Bortasqu or Tac Bortasqu does the job my Fleet Torkaht does better because it has either an extra tac console or sensor analysis, autocannon, and still keeps its DHC on target all the time. It fits the KDF style of cruisers somewhat, because they all are about front facing damage, no ship does this better then a Bortasqu. A fed eng cant compare since you are using beams instead of DHC. I usually use single cannons on my Bort or use my Fleet Torkaht in pvp, but just for a laugh I even used the DHC on my bort a few times in pvp and was suprised at how well it does, timing alpha strikes doesnt give targets much time to manuver out of firing arc. Granted there were lots of times people caught on and stayed out of firing arc whole time but then i just pick a new target.
Back on topic I dont think a jupiter class should not be able to do what a bortasqu does, have massive front facing damage with dhc and autocannon. It should be slightly less manuverable and have something to give its beams more damage, maybe more weapon power then other ships have, and/or and innate beam skill, and should be as tanky as a bort or ody.
I'm slightly concerned that Dstahl was hesitant about adding the Typhoon... What could that mean about the Jupiter?
/sigh We've got more than 37 pages, because this is the second Jupiter forums I've made (the last one was close with the forum switch). That first had quite a few pages as well (I'd say around 30).
I'm slightly concerned that Dstahl was hesitant about adding the Typhoon... What could that mean about the Jupiter?
/sigh We've got more than 37 pages, because this is the second Jupiter forums I've made (the last one was close with the forum switch). That first had quite a few pages as well (I'd say around 30).
Here's to hope!
-Quiiliitiila
we must inite againts cryptic.. jupiter and typhoon fans must work together :O
If I'm going to be clamoring to get a ship put into the game it sure is not going to be a Jupiter.
I'm sorry but that ship has to be the ugliest kitbash I've ever seen. The Typhoon I can see, it has a design that at least makes some sense along the lines of how Starfleet makes ships, but the Jupiter looks like something put together by a Pakled because they couldn't figure out where the pieces go.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Hopefully when/if we get the two ships in game we'll get some costume options from the C-store, or just with the ships; As I'm also sick of the tradition you get one costume trend that's been happening lately.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Jupiter be the Starfleet version of a carrier, I enjoy the gameplay on my Atrox, it's just a shame I can't use any customisation stuff on it.
I'm slightly concerned that Dstahl was hesitant about adding the Typhoon... What could that mean about the Jupiter?
/sigh We've got more than 37 pages, because this is the second Jupiter forums I've made (the last one was close with the forum switch). That first had quite a few pages as well (I'd say around 30).
Hey, the Comet Class, and the Imperial Class are ugly but they are allowed ingame.
Go Jupiter, but Typhoon first.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Personally people, after reading a lot, i think that the Jupiter will be an Admiral level ship, in fact i am sure that one of the first, if not THE first Admiral level ship you will be able to get, will be the Jupiter.
As for the Typhoon, it always seemed "weird"to me, but now that they made the Chimera, maybe they will make it a skin for it?, maybe the Jupiter will be the Admiral Engineering ship and the Typhoon will be the Tactical ship?.
Old Mirror or new Mirror? This is a very important question
I would say new, the Typhoon is one of the few ships the yellow pattern works on.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Just because you lack the skill to play a Bortasqu doesnt mean it sucks, its just not for everyone. I do quite well in it and so do many others.
You don't need the manuverabilty of KDF battlecruisers in PVE if you can handle manuvering a Bortasqu, my Command Bortasqu or Tac Bortasqu does the job my Fleet Torkaht does better because it has either an extra tac console or sensor analysis, autocannon, and still keeps its DHC on target all the time. It fits the KDF style of cruisers somewhat, because they all are about front facing damage, no ship does this better then a Bortasqu. A fed eng cant compare since you are using beams instead of DHC. I usually use single cannons on my Bort or use my Fleet Torkaht in pvp, but just for a laugh I even used the DHC on my bort a few times in pvp and was suprised at how well it does, timing alpha strikes doesnt give targets much time to manuver out of firing arc. Granted there were lots of times people caught on and stayed out of firing arc whole time but then i just pick a new target.
Back on topic I dont think a jupiter class should not be able to do what a bortasqu does, have massive front facing damage with dhc and autocannon. It should be slightly less manuverable and have something to give its beams more damage, maybe more weapon power then other ships have, and/or and innate beam skill, and should be as tanky as a bort or ody.
/sigh We've got more than 37 pages, because this is the second Jupiter forums I've made (the last one was close with the forum switch). That first had quite a few pages as well (I'd say around 30).
Here's to hope!
-Quiiliitiila
we must inite againts cryptic.. jupiter and typhoon fans must work together :O
I'm sorry but that ship has to be the ugliest kitbash I've ever seen. The Typhoon I can see, it has a design that at least makes some sense along the lines of how Starfleet makes ships, but the Jupiter looks like something put together by a Pakled because they couldn't figure out where the pieces go.
and i hope when we get a Dreadnought wie became new Models
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*Drains glass.*
Kyle
Go Jupiter, but Typhoon first.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Fixed that for yah!
:rolleyes:
I know as a Community we can Get the Jupiter and Typhoon in game.
I have the faith guys:D
Founder and Current CO of Gamma Strike Force
Player since December 2009
As for the Typhoon, it always seemed "weird"to me, but now that they made the Chimera, maybe they will make it a skin for it?, maybe the Jupiter will be the Admiral Engineering ship and the Typhoon will be the Tactical ship?.
Fixed for you :P
P.s Mirror skin for Typhoon please
Old Mirror or new Mirror? This is a very important question
I would say new, the Typhoon is one of the few ships the yellow pattern works on.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I am starting to miss the old purple though...
Believe me your not the only one.
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Kyle
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Kyle
Anyway, my launcher is not working so I am not able to get the Ambassador yet. Is it worth it?
Kyle
Kyle