[Breaking News] Secret Passage Being Reverted

Sangodoc wrote: »

PK was not allowed in Secret Passage (SP) until a recent patch changed how PK works in SP. That change was intended to allow people to have fun with PvP without the normal consequences or having to switch to PvP. However, the location chosen has caused problems with quests and causes unsuspecting newbies to get randomly/unexpectedly killed, which most people think is a bad idea. So the plan is to revert SP back to the way it was.

However, until we get a new patch reverting SP to normal, PK is allowed in SP. After it is patched we will most likely go back to the old rule where it was bannable.

Maybe open the Arena, as has been suggested and asked for, like a zillion times?

_Ariiella_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Good work for reverting SP back kinda was super annoyed when I tried to help people through SP only to be confronted with butt heads on a lowbie killing spree in SP.

Worst yet they pk without any red name punishment which contradicts the pk punishment rules anyways.

As for pk arenas, isn't there enough events where higher levels gank at lower ones or each other already?

Leave the main quests and instances for main quests pk free to allow everyone to enjoy their gaming and actually level up b:chuckle

Anyways much appreciated, this is great news b:kiss

it isn't reversed. i had a mate accidentally kill a whole silverfrost squad because he thought it was fixed.. (he did gather and assist in a second successful murder of the big doggie immediately after but still feels bad)

gm says it will be fixed 'soon' :P i'm thinking it might be the parental promise of, "yes dear, we'll go to the zoo next holiday." until you're old enough to just drive there yourself b:cry

me and many others, still not buying zhen until it is actually fixed. my level 33 seeker is stalled until it is. i seriously can't stand one more episode of constant ganking while just trying to do the dumg**** quests..

According to Frankie we just have 15 days remaining before we get exciting new content and SP IS FIXED. Will we once again be disappointed? Do the programers listen to the suggestions and complaints? Do they actually GET to China?

mcfreakie wrote: »

According to Frankie we just have 15 days remaining before we get exciting new content and SP IS FIXED. Will we once again be disappointed? Do the programers listen to the suggestions and complaints? Do they actually GET to China?

no, China only hears PWCN ppls QQ. PWI does its own thing, r9 sales, mega cheap 1* sales, 10* sales, 11/12* sales, ect ect

only untill they lose money for the owners of PWI then PWCN steps in and tells them what to do, what to change, what to take out. ect ect

I agree completely with the no-PK in SP rule. I mean, if I wanted to get killed while helping fight a boss or something I would of just made a character in Harshlands or some other pvp server. I haven't been in SP for a very long time and I am hoping nothing of the sort happens to me if I ever have to go back. And besides, what is killing low levels going to prove? Is it REALLY that fun to kill a level 30 who was just questing? I mean seriously. I feel bad for the level 30's. There is nothing worth it that a level 100 could get from a 30. Maybe money-wise but otherwise I really don't see how it's worth your time. I think everyone should just leave the level 30's alone and go pk with people the same level as them, and if you can't win in a fair fight, then just level up and stop taking it out on the newbies. To think that you can only get joy out of killing new players on a game and making them frustrated... great life you have there. I am not talking about ALL pkers, I know some pretty nice ones. It's just some of them are so low they have to kill the newbies, who are just trying to finish their quests... I am NOT trying to offend anyone, I am just stating my opinion on this matter. Especially after seeing all these PKers complain about this.

TL;DR: Pro-carebear and still rather new to this game.

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »

so, in essence, SP is still closed to all who need it.b:angry

thats just great. the stupid PK crowd run up their meaningless body counts, and greedy idiots WC offers to 'escort' or 'bodyguard' squads through the mayhem. yeah, right...how the hell do you protect a squad from archers, etc who can kill across a room?



edit---BTW**PLEASE*** take off the 'Breaking News' banner from this thread. there is no news, and neither is it breaking now. it is misleading everyone into thinking that the problems has been solved.

sorry, peeps....we are still up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

Again... kill counts were frozen... http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1154871

These people like Enrage on our server are just doing it to be their normal a$$hole selves and quest block lowbies cause they think it's funny.

This is just not going to be changed back fast enough. It is getting impossible to accomplish anything in SP. BH, culti, various other quests might as well be shutdown until this is fixed. Because between people camping right by the safe zone, stealthed sins camping right in front of the Hall of Deception and the few other quest items there is nothing players that actually need to be in SP can get done.

b:chuckle // There would be 1 funny way they could clear SP out while these last 14 days go by....

And that would be if the DEVs gave permission to all the GMs to simply take stealth shots of the campers and their factions actions in SP then announce that they're gonna start BANNING ENTIRE GUILDs that are responsible for this BS!! aswell!! And not just their (PK camper) members alone!!!b:pleased

Now I'm sure that would make them Cut Their S**T the H**L OUT!! if all their other guild members were telling them to knock it the F*** Off!! in order to save themselves from being punished, for their (Rabid lil'friends) Misdeeds, Rather then finding it OHH! So FuNnY!! That their guildmates are SnIpInG all the low levs, and anyone else for that matter, in SP!!b:pleased

I'm fairly certain, that would work at reducing atleast the Guild Campers in SP...

Too bad the SOLO SCUM!!! would not likely be swayed to be stopped by it, though, but thats what (Permanently banning) accounts is for, taking care of the left over TRASH..b:bye

AND think of how quick that would free up the TW maps if the main guilds no longer existed, ROFL!! Plenty of FREE Parking on them there HILLs if Half the map LOOSES its OWNERS. lmao ^o^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seitori wrote: »

Too bad the SOLO SCUM!!! would not likely be swayed to be stopped by it, though, but thats what (Permanently banning) accounts is for, taking care of the left over TRASH..b:bye

If they won't permanently ban people who glitch dragoons to hit level 105, I seriously doubt they're going to permanently ban people who grief players in SP.

omg sp can get annoying esp if ur on kos by bunch of ppl but theres ways around that
granted wish theyd put it in a btr spot however its honestly not that big of a deal just shout doing bh or helping with bh most time i can get by and long as u skirt around the edges u rly dont get hit by aoes if on the occasions aholes are killing everyone who sets foot in there most nice friendly r9 +12 ppl hate those ppl and if ur friends with some nice r9 +12 ppl they usually dont mind killing those idiots but honestly its not that bad def could be better as if they made a zone for pvp but ik my faction holds events in there for fun and lets them experiance safe pvp we do sqd vs sqd matches in some back rooms and ik of several factions that do tw training in there on dw server sure ur pve but by gods occasionally i like to pvp just cause im tired of killing unintelligent mobs and want spice things up honestly its fun to one shot but rly u look like a loser if u brag about one shotting noobs and its more fun in a close fight with say a barb <.< and yah aoes suck but general rule is if they do a dmging aoe ppl gank their *** so most try not to aoe unless they can take the whole room <.< but in my experiance ppl usually leave if there is one there unless its also someone op geared as well then they kinda duke it out and to all the lowbies its pathetically easy to get coins once u buy a pick axe its called cat shopping ur mats that u farm like necter i only need 10 necter for 5k (thats insta sell to a catshop that buys it for 500 coins) thats maybe 3 min im not glad that they got rid of sp if theyre gonna get rid of it least give us a place for ppl who get bored at higher lvls say 100+ who want a little more than pve to spice up endgame gameplay and place where they can hang out and test thier skills i dont want play on a pvp server cause i dont always want to pvp and i dont feel like losing my drops honestly theyre qq over minor **** that can be fixed with some ingenuity but rly they should of just made it another place so everyone can be happy give me a god damn arena pwi so everyone can **** and as for the lowbies who need escorts and help thats what a faction and high lvl friends are for if ur friendless and factionless need work on those skills

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

If they won't permanently ban people who glitch dragoons to hit level 105, I seriously doubt they're going to permanently ban people who grief players in SP.

True, but it never hurts too dream about them realizing the difference between ganking Dragoons (mass mob) bug, and the real life players, that are PWis bread & butter...

now if only they'd dream that part aswell...b:sad

And Btw: PWi, I'm not making anymore detailed a description, then that, on Dragoon. As I prefer not too be banned again, for any reason, let alone b:cry for chatting on that subject... Cause I've heard how touchy ya get about it...b:surrender

Though I do wonder if the Dev's are ever gonna fix it? Since that seems the easiest way to take care of it, LoLz ??
?? ?_? ?? b:bye

heh, yeah, thats a good idea.

and since most of those causing the trouble are Enrage PKers, nail the whole guild, since the leader is not keeping his guild in line.

Lesthar - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It would be fun if the SP PKers (I do mean chronic griefers by that) were to be busted and had their PK count reset, once and for good. b:laugh

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »

heh, yeah, thats a good idea.

and since most of those causing the trouble are Enrage PKers, nail the whole guild, since the leader is not keeping his guild in line.

From the vast number of comments heard from many many different people... his leadership is only part of his 'ISSUES'. Considering the vocal minority crying cause they want a place like SP to have some PVP enjoyment... its pathetic to see so many members from high geared TW guilds harassing low level players which is why its being reverted. Seems to me the only ones who will be enraged in the end are those who are losing their play land.

Best idea yet... dont ban... just ship the entire faction to a PVP server.

escarte wrote: »

omg sp can get annoying esp if ur on kos by bunch of ppl but theres ways around that
granted wish theyd put it in a btr spot however its honestly not that big of a deal just shout doing bh or helping with bh most time i can get by and long as u skirt around the edges u rly dont get hit by aoes if on the occasions aholes are killing everyone who sets foot in there most nice friendly r9 +12 ppl hate those ppl and if ur friends with some nice r9 +12 ppl they usually dont mind killing those idiots but honestly its not that bad def could be better as if they made a zone for pvp but ik my faction holds events in there for fun and lets them experiance safe pvp we do sqd vs sqd matches in some back rooms and ik of several factions that do tw training in there on dw server sure ur pve but by gods occasionally i like to pvp just cause im tired of killing unintelligent mobs and want spice things up honestly its fun to one shot but rly u look like a loser if u brag about one shotting noobs and its more fun in a close fight with say a barb <.< and yah aoes suck but general rule is if they do a dmging aoe ppl gank their *** so most try not to aoe unless they can take the whole room <.< but in my experiance ppl usually leave if there is one there unless its also someone op geared as well then they kinda duke it out and to all the lowbies its pathetically easy to get coins once u buy a pick axe its called cat shopping ur mats that u farm like necter i only need 10 necter for 5k (thats insta sell to a catshop that buys it for 500 coins) thats maybe 3 min im not glad that they got rid of sp if theyre gonna get rid of it least give us a place for ppl who get bored at higher lvls say 100+ who want a little more than pve to spice up endgame gameplay and place where they can hang out and test thier skills i dont want play on a pvp server cause i dont always want to pvp and i dont feel like losing my drops honestly theyre qq over minor **** that can be fixed with some ingenuity but rly they should of just made it another place so everyone can be happy give me a god damn arena pwi so everyone can **** and as for the lowbies who need escorts and help thats what a faction and high lvl friends are for if ur friendless and factionless need work on those skills

"Worlds longest paragraph" Also if u wanted to know what someone non stop talking looked like this is it, try to use periods, commas, caps next time. Other then that i agree with some of what said. b:bye

frankieraye wrote: »

Hey all,


Due to the extremely negative feedback about the recent change to Secret Passage, the developers have agreed to revert it to its original state - the way that it was before the change.

From what I understand, the change is about to be implemented on the Chinese servers, and it will soon take place over here as well.


Thank you for all of your feedback on the matter



Update: Just wanted to be up front with you all and set a realistic expectation-

The way that we get content from China is that, instead of giving us one new thing every week or two, they wait a few weeks and then give us a bigger patch with multiple things. Doing it this way makes it easier to test and ensures a more stable client for us.

For this reason, the reversion to Secret Passage will come to us as part of one of these "content-bundles". What this means is that we will not be receiving it next week, and probably not the following week either. The patch with the reversion should be in our version in 3-4 weeks, along with some other cool new content.

So yeah, I'm sorry it has to take this long, but just know that it's on its way, and will be here within the above time-frame.


Also, some of you have asked whether we will now start punishing players for PKing in SP. The answer is that PK will still be allowed in there until it is actually changed with the patch. Remember, the change was made intentionally, so it's not like people are exploiting a bug here.


Thanks all, and let me know if you have any further questions.

What about the 101+ pkers who stand there picking off the low level NON pkers as soon as they set foot through the door ? Isnt this a form of griefing ? I have a 96 Veno and was trying to help a friend of mine in there I was killed so many times by Syphon bullet and his tame p.ussy Dazed_Killer I gave up and logged off.
Im not spending one more penny in PWI till this is fixed and the griefers banned.
We hear sooooo often "the GMs cant do anything " so how about there being GMs on duty in each server ? with the power to boot and ban these bullys ?
I SICK of the bullies in PW, sort it out PWI or im closing my faction and going back to WoW