[Breaking News] Secret Passage Being Reverted

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  • Batini - Archosaur
    Batini - Archosaur Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sangodoc wrote: »
    PK was not allowed in Secret Passage (SP) until a recent patch changed how PK works in SP. That change was intended to allow people to have fun with PvP without the normal consequences or having to switch to PvP. However, the location chosen has caused problems with quests and causes unsuspecting newbies to get randomly/unexpectedly killed, which most people think is a bad idea. So the plan is to revert SP back to the way it was.

    However, until we get a new patch reverting SP to normal, PK is allowed in SP. After it is patched we will most likely go back to the old rule where it was bannable.

    Maybe open the Arena, as has been suggested and asked for, like a zillion times?
  • _Ariiella_ - Heavens Tear
    _Ariiella_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Good work for reverting SP back :) kinda was super annoyed when I tried to help people through SP only to be confronted with butt heads on a lowbie killing spree in SP.

    Worst yet they pk without any red name punishment which contradicts the pk punishment rules anyways.

    As for pk arenas, isn't there enough events where higher levels gank at lower ones or each other already?

    Leave the main quests and instances for main quests pk free to allow everyone to enjoy their gaming and actually level up b:chuckle

    Anyways much appreciated, this is great news b:kiss
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  • Ellisandro - Archosaur
    Ellisandro - Archosaur Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Good work for reverting SP back :) kinda was super annoyed when I tried to help people through SP only to be confronted with butt heads on a lowbie killing spree in SP.

    Worst yet they pk without any red name punishment which contradicts the pk punishment rules anyways.

    As for pk arenas, isn't there enough events where higher levels gank at lower ones or each other already?

    Leave the main quests and instances for main quests pk free to allow everyone to enjoy their gaming and actually level up b:chuckle

    Anyways much appreciated, this is great news b:kiss

    it isn't reversed. i had a mate accidentally kill a whole silverfrost squad because he thought it was fixed.. (he did gather and assist in a second successful murder of the big doggie immediately after but still feels bad)

    gm says it will be fixed 'soon' :P i'm thinking it might be the parental promise of, "yes dear, we'll go to the zoo next holiday." until you're old enough to just drive there yourself b:cry

    me and many others, still not buying zhen until it is actually fixed. my level 33 seeker is stalled until it is. i seriously can't stand one more episode of constant ganking while just trying to do the dumg**** quests..
  • Rhylla - Harshlands
    Rhylla - Harshlands Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Completely agree with you ...well said :)
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    According to Frankie we just have 15 days remaining before we get exciting new content and SP IS FIXED. Will we once again be disappointed? Do the programers listen to the suggestions and complaints? Do they actually GET to China?
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    so, in essence, SP is still closed to all who need it.b:angry

    thats just great. the stupid PK crowd run up their meaningless body counts, and greedy idiots WC offers to 'escort' or 'bodyguard' squads through the mayhem. yeah, right...how the hell do you protect a squad from archers, etc who can kill across a room?




    edit---BTW**PLEASE*** take off the 'Breaking News' banner from this thread. there is no news, and neither is it breaking now. it is misleading everyone into thinking that the problems has been solved.

    sorry, peeps....we are still up the proverbial creek without a paddle
    .

    It has not, I was just there today for Crimson Pendant on my Psy and was PKed repeatedly. Apparently using flight to reach the Hall of Deception and various quest items is no longer a safe method of travel as PKs now use that to hunt down lowbies who have figured out they can fly in SP.
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  • Nubispotze - Heavens Tear
    Nubispotze - Heavens Tear Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    mcfreakie wrote: »
    According to Frankie we just have 15 days remaining before we get exciting new content and SP IS FIXED. Will we once again be disappointed? Do the programers listen to the suggestions and complaints? Do they actually GET to China?


    no, China only hears PWCN ppls QQ. PWI does its own thing, r9 sales, mega cheap 1* sales, 10* sales, 11/12* sales, ect ect

    only untill they lose money for the owners of PWI then PWCN steps in and tells them what to do, what to change, what to take out. ect ect
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Inb4: " unfortunately the fix going to..... " b:surrender b:avoid
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  • Nyuchama - Archosaur
    Nyuchama - Archosaur Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I agree completely with the no-PK in SP rule. I mean, if I wanted to get killed while helping fight a boss or something I would of just made a character in Harshlands or some other pvp server. I haven't been in SP for a very long time and I am hoping nothing of the sort happens to me if I ever have to go back. And besides, what is killing low levels going to prove? Is it REALLY that fun to kill a level 30 who was just questing? I mean seriously. I feel bad for the level 30's. There is nothing worth it that a level 100 could get from a 30. Maybe money-wise but otherwise I really don't see how it's worth your time. I think everyone should just leave the level 30's alone and go pk with people the same level as them, and if you can't win in a fair fight, then just level up and stop taking it out on the newbies. To think that you can only get joy out of killing new players on a game and making them frustrated... great life you have there. I am not talking about ALL pkers, I know some pretty nice ones. It's just some of them are so low they have to kill the newbies, who are just trying to finish their quests... I am NOT trying to offend anyone, I am just stating my opinion on this matter. Especially after seeing all these PKers complain about this.

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  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    no, China only hears PWCN ppls QQ. PWI does its own thing, r9 sales, mega cheap 1* sales, 10* sales, 11/12* sales, ect ect

    only until they lose money for the owners of PWI then PWCN steps in and tells them what to do, what to change, what to take out. ect ect

    They seem to listen when Investor Relations is contacted personally.
  • Chadric - Heavens Tear
    Chadric - Heavens Tear Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    so, in essence, SP is still closed to all who need it.b:angry

    thats just great. the stupid PK crowd run up their meaningless body counts, and greedy idiots WC offers to 'escort' or 'bodyguard' squads through the mayhem. yeah, right...how the hell do you protect a squad from archers, etc who can kill across a room?




    edit---BTW**PLEASE*** take off the 'Breaking News' banner from this thread. there is no news, and neither is it breaking now. it is misleading everyone into thinking that the problems has been solved.

    sorry, peeps....we are still up the proverbial creek without a paddle
    .

    Again... kill counts were frozen... http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1154871

    These people like Enrage on our server are just doing it to be their normal a$$hole selves and quest block lowbies cause they think it's funny.
  • Nahleanna - Sanctuary
    Nahleanna - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    I just wish they would fix it already its really getting old
  • Sheshka - Raging Tide
    Sheshka - Raging Tide Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    This is just not going to be changed back fast enough. It is getting impossible to accomplish anything in SP. BH, culti, various other quests might as well be shutdown until this is fixed. Because between people camping right by the safe zone, stealthed sins camping right in front of the Hall of Deception and the few other quest items there is nothing players that actually need to be in SP can get done.
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Again... kill counts were frozen... http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1154871

    These people like Enrage on our server are just doing it to be their normal a$$hole selves and quest block lowbies cause they think it's funny.


    You are SO correct. Tiny Epeen syndrome. They have their chance to over compensate.




    As of midnight... 14 days remaining.
  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    b:chuckle // There would be 1 funny way they could clear SP out while these last 14 days go by....

    And that would be if the DEVs gave permission to all the GMs to simply take stealth shots of the campers and their factions actions in SP then announce that they're gonna start BANNING ENTIRE GUILDs that are responsible for this BS!! aswell!! And not just their (PK camper) members alone!!!b:pleased

    Now I'm sure that would make them Cut Their S**T the H**L OUT!! if all their other guild members were telling them to knock it the F*** Off!! in order to save themselves from being punished, for their (Rabid lil'friends) Misdeeds, Rather then finding it OHH! So FuNnY!! That their guildmates are SnIpInG all the low levs, and anyone else for that matter, in SP!!b:pleased

    I'm fairly certain, that would work at reducing atleast the Guild Campers in SP...

    Too bad the SOLO SCUM!!! would not likely be swayed to be stopped by it, though, but thats what (Permanently banning) accounts is for, taking care of the left over TRASH..b:bye

    AND think of how quick that would free up the TW maps if the main guilds no longer existed, ROFL!! Plenty of FREE Parking on them there HILLs if Half the map LOOSES its OWNERS. lmao ^o^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    seitori wrote: »
    b:chuckle // There would be 1 funny way they could clear SP out while these last 14 days go by....

    And that would be if the DEVs gave permission to all the GMs to simply take stealth shots of the campers and their factions actions in SP then announce that they're gonna start BANNING ENTIRE GUILDs that are responsible for this BS!! aswell!! And not just their (PK camper) members alone!!!b:pleased

    I'm fairly certain, that would work at reducing atleast the Guild Campers in SP...

    AND think of how quick that would free up the TW maps if the main guilds no longer existed, ROFL!! Plenty of FREE Parking on them there HILLs if Half the map LOOSES its OWNERS. lmao ^o^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    With 14 days left... I think your idea is great. Only change I would make is instead of banning the entire faction... automatic transfer of the entire faction to a PVP server.
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    seitori wrote: »
    Too bad the SOLO SCUM!!! would not likely be swayed to be stopped by it, though, but thats what (Permanently banning) accounts is for, taking care of the left over TRASH..b:bye

    If they won't permanently ban people who glitch dragoons to hit level 105, I seriously doubt they're going to permanently ban people who grief players in SP.
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  • Nniotora - Lost City
    Nniotora - Lost City Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Sp will be reverted soon
    3months after:
    Player: when will Sp be fixed
    GM: expect Sp to be reverted soon
    another month:
    Player:b:angry Sp still not reverted QQ i quit
    Gm: good less QQ on forums
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  • escarte
    escarte Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    omg sp can get annoying esp if ur on kos by bunch of ppl but theres ways around that
    granted wish theyd put it in a btr spot however its honestly not that big of a deal just shout doing bh or helping with bh most time i can get by and long as u skirt around the edges u rly dont get hit by aoes if on the occasions aholes are killing everyone who sets foot in there most nice friendly r9 +12 ppl hate those ppl and if ur friends with some nice r9 +12 ppl they usually dont mind killing those idiots but honestly its not that bad def could be better as if they made a zone for pvp but ik my faction holds events in there for fun and lets them experiance safe pvp we do sqd vs sqd matches in some back rooms and ik of several factions that do tw training in there on dw server sure ur pve but by gods occasionally i like to pvp just cause im tired of killing unintelligent mobs and want spice things up honestly its fun to one shot but rly u look like a loser if u brag about one shotting noobs and its more fun in a close fight with say a barb <.< and yah aoes suck but general rule is if they do a dmging aoe ppl gank their *** so most try not to aoe unless they can take the whole room <.< but in my experiance ppl usually leave if there is one there unless its also someone op geared as well then they kinda duke it out and to all the lowbies its pathetically easy to get coins once u buy a pick axe its called cat shopping ur mats that u farm like necter i only need 10 necter for 5k (thats insta sell to a catshop that buys it for 500 coins) thats maybe 3 min im not glad that they got rid of sp if theyre gonna get rid of it least give us a place for ppl who get bored at higher lvls say 100+ who want a little more than pve to spice up endgame gameplay and place where they can hang out and test thier skills i dont want play on a pvp server cause i dont always want to pvp and i dont feel like losing my drops honestly theyre qq over minor **** that can be fixed with some ingenuity but rly they should of just made it another place so everyone can be happy give me a god damn arena pwi so everyone can **** and as for the lowbies who need escorts and help thats what a faction and high lvl friends are for if ur friendless and factionless need work on those skills
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    well, so much for yammering about upholding the TOS. banning herein the forums is a big deal, but its never done on the game.

    there, ingame, are God only knows the number of players who are ganking/griefing/breaking the TOS every which way from Friday, and the powers that be sit on their thumbs, doing nothing but think up new ways to wring money out of us with more and more things to sell. if they put but a fraction of that computational brain power to work, this issue would be resolved the first day. i think this is where they are looking for solutions ....pic attached....
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    Again... kill counts were frozen... http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1154871

    These people like Enrage on our server are just doing it to be their normal a$$hole selves and quest block lowbies cause they think it's funny.
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  • seitori
    seitori Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    If they won't permanently ban people who glitch dragoons to hit level 105, I seriously doubt they're going to permanently ban people who grief players in SP.

    True, but it never hurts too dream about them realizing the difference between ganking Dragoons (mass mob) bug, and the real life players, that are PWis bread & butter...

    now if only they'd dream that part aswell...b:sad

    And Btw: PWi, I'm not making anymore detailed a description, then that, on Dragoon. As I prefer not too be banned again, for any reason, let alone b:cry for chatting on that subject... Cause I've heard how touchy ya get about it...b:surrender

    Though I do wonder if the Dev's are ever gonna fix it? Since that seems the easiest way to take care of it, LoLz ??
    ?? ?_? ?? b:bye
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    so, in essence, SP is still closed to all who need it.b:angry

    thats just great. the stupid PK crowd run up their meaningless body counts, and greedy idiots WC offers to 'escort' or 'bodyguard' squads through the mayhem. yeah, right...how the hell do you protect a squad from archers, etc who can kill across a room?

    It would be fun if the SP PKers (I do mean chronic griefers by that) were to be busted and had their PK count reset, once and for good. b:laugh
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  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    heh, yeah, thats a good idea.

    and since most of those causing the trouble are Enrage PKers, nail the whole guild, since the leader is not keeping his guild in line.


    It would be fun if the SP PKers (I do mean chronic griefers by that) were to be busted and had their PK count reset, once and for good. b:laugh
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  • Ziraia - Raging Tide
    Ziraia - Raging Tide Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Someone told me it was actually a mistake to make the secret passage as it was now a little period. And that you cover it by saying you just tried it or whatever. Is this true?

    Maybe you've been already talking about it in this thread, but im to lazy to read atm xD Im glad you're changing it back tho. My alt died several times and it made me kinda mad..
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  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    heh, yeah, thats a good idea.

    and since most of those causing the trouble are Enrage PKers, nail the whole guild, since the leader is not keeping his guild in line.

    From the vast number of comments heard from many many different people... his leadership is only part of his 'ISSUES'. Considering the vocal minority crying cause they want a place like SP to have some PVP enjoyment... its pathetic to see so many members from high geared TW guilds harassing low level players which is why its being reverted. Seems to me the only ones who will be enraged in the end are those who are losing their play land.

    Best idea yet... dont ban... just ship the entire faction to a PVP server.
  • Ellisandro - Archosaur
    Ellisandro - Archosaur Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    escarte wrote: »
    omg sp can get annoying esp if ur on kos by bunch of ppl but theres ways around that
    granted wish theyd put it in a btr spot however its honestly not that big of a deal just shout doing bh or helping with bh most time i can get by and long as u skirt around the edges u rly dont get hit by aoes if on the occasions aholes are killing everyone who sets foot in there most nice friendly r9 +12 ppl hate those ppl and if ur friends with some nice r9 +12 ppl they usually dont mind killing those idiots but honestly its not that bad def could be better as if they made a zone for pvp but ik my faction holds events in there for fun and lets them experiance safe pvp we do sqd vs sqd matches in some back rooms and ik of several factions that do tw training in there on dw server sure ur pve but by gods occasionally i like to pvp just cause im tired of killing unintelligent mobs and want spice things up honestly its fun to one shot but rly u look like a loser if u brag about one shotting noobs and its more fun in a close fight with say a barb <.< and yah aoes suck but general rule is if they do a dmging aoe ppl gank their *** so most try not to aoe unless they can take the whole room <.< but in my experiance ppl usually leave if there is one there unless its also someone op geared as well then they kinda duke it out and to all the lowbies its pathetically easy to get coins once u buy a pick axe its called cat shopping ur mats that u farm like necter i only need 10 necter for 5k (thats insta sell to a catshop that buys it for 500 coins) thats maybe 3 min im not glad that they got rid of sp if theyre gonna get rid of it least give us a place for ppl who get bored at higher lvls say 100+ who want a little more than pve to spice up endgame gameplay and place where they can hang out and test thier skills i dont want play on a pvp server cause i dont always want to pvp and i dont feel like losing my drops honestly theyre qq over minor **** that can be fixed with some ingenuity but rly they should of just made it another place so everyone can be happy give me a god damn arena pwi so everyone can **** and as for the lowbies who need escorts and help thats what a faction and high lvl friends are for if ur friendless and factionless need work on those skills


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  • QueenNique - Dreamweaver
    QueenNique - Dreamweaver Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    escarte wrote: »
    omg sp can get annoying esp if ur on kos by bunch of ppl but theres ways around that
    granted wish theyd put it in a btr spot however its honestly not that big of a deal just shout doing bh or helping with bh most time i can get by and long as u skirt around the edges u rly dont get hit by aoes if on the occasions aholes are killing everyone who sets foot in there most nice friendly r9 +12 ppl hate those ppl and if ur friends with some nice r9 +12 ppl they usually dont mind killing those idiots but honestly its not that bad def could be better as if they made a zone for pvp but ik my faction holds events in there for fun and lets them experiance safe pvp we do sqd vs sqd matches in some back rooms and ik of several factions that do tw training in there on dw server sure ur pve but by gods occasionally i like to pvp just cause im tired of killing unintelligent mobs and want spice things up honestly its fun to one shot but rly u look like a loser if u brag about one shotting noobs and its more fun in a close fight with say a barb <.< and yah aoes suck but general rule is if they do a dmging aoe ppl gank their *** so most try not to aoe unless they can take the whole room <.< but in my experiance ppl usually leave if there is one there unless its also someone op geared as well then they kinda duke it out and to all the lowbies its pathetically easy to get coins once u buy a pick axe its called cat shopping ur mats that u farm like necter i only need 10 necter for 5k (thats insta sell to a catshop that buys it for 500 coins) thats maybe 3 min im not glad that they got rid of sp if theyre gonna get rid of it least give us a place for ppl who get bored at higher lvls say 100+ who want a little more than pve to spice up endgame gameplay and place where they can hang out and test thier skills i dont want play on a pvp server cause i dont always want to pvp and i dont feel like losing my drops honestly theyre qq over minor **** that can be fixed with some ingenuity but rly they should of just made it another place so everyone can be happy give me a god damn arena pwi so everyone can **** and as for the lowbies who need escorts and help thats what a faction and high lvl friends are for if ur friendless and factionless need work on those skills

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  • Zuqria - Dreamweaver
    Zuqria - Dreamweaver Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    still not reverted ****SIGH****

    Still not putting any more money into this game...
  • _Rune_ - Archosaur
    _Rune_ - Archosaur Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    Hey all,


    Due to the extremely negative feedback about the recent change to Secret Passage, the developers have agreed to revert it to its original state - the way that it was before the change.

    From what I understand, the change is about to be implemented on the Chinese servers, and it will soon take place over here as well.


    Thank you for all of your feedback on the matter :)



    Update: Just wanted to be up front with you all and set a realistic expectation-

    The way that we get content from China is that, instead of giving us one new thing every week or two, they wait a few weeks and then give us a bigger patch with multiple things. Doing it this way makes it easier to test and ensures a more stable client for us.

    For this reason, the reversion to Secret Passage will come to us as part of one of these "content-bundles". What this means is that we will not be receiving it next week, and probably not the following week either. The patch with the reversion should be in our version in 3-4 weeks, along with some other cool new content.

    So yeah, I'm sorry it has to take this long, but just know that it's on its way, and will be here within the above time-frame.


    Also, some of you have asked whether we will now start punishing players for PKing in SP. The answer is that PK will still be allowed in there until it is actually changed with the patch. Remember, the change was made intentionally, so it's not like people are exploiting a bug here.


    Thanks all, and let me know if you have any further questions.

    What about the 101+ pkers who stand there picking off the low level NON pkers as soon as they set foot through the door ? Isnt this a form of griefing ? I have a 96 Veno and was trying to help a friend of mine in there I was killed so many times by Syphon bullet and his tame p.ussy Dazed_Killer I gave up and logged off.
    Im not spending one more penny in PWI till this is fixed and the griefers banned.
    We hear sooooo often "the GMs cant do anything " so how about there being GMs on duty in each server ? with the power to boot and ban these bullys ?
    I SICK of the bullies in PW, sort it out PWI or im closing my faction and going back to WoW
  • mcfreakie
    mcfreakie Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited October 2011
    "So yeah, I'm sorry it has to take this long, but just know that it's on its way, and will be here within the above time-frame." FrankieRaye



    12 days left till the deadline. Will we see new content? Will it just be different packs? Will SP get reverted? Will the developer who thought SP be the easy fix for players wanting a free for all PVP zone get fired? What story will Frankie give us for things NOT happening when this time limit set by Frankie passes?

    What story will the MODs give to try to support Frankie when this time frame passes and they start puckering up to Frankie?

    How many new players will PWI lose cause of this blunder?