Cube Should Not Be Pk Enabled!!!!

I gave up doing that thing looooong ago because that reason.

^- "you all" = 2 or 3 ppl.. most ppl responding to them from their own servers are telling them to get over it.

LilNai - Harshlands wrote: »

You all cry so much about a couple of forced PvP zones,

well duh. why, exactly, do you think we rolled on PvE servers in the first bloody place? if we wanted to be forced into PvP, we'd be on the PvP ones --- are you even capable of comprehending that much, or will you just pretend to some kind of affected superiority instead of trying to see somebody else's point of view even once in your life? y'know, like janus does.

yes, we cry over being forced to do the one thing we picked our servers in order to avoid having to do in the first place. we have a perfect right to be butthurt over that; anyone would.

just imagine if there was a monster in that room that had a 90% chance to one-shot you as you entered. Youd likely not complain, il bet.

speaking strictly for myself, no, i'd not mind that. there are rooms just like that in the game as it is, and i expect so long as i keep playing a veno there always will be bosses that can oneshot me just like that. them, i do not care about.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So let me get this straight.

You have a forum system for your very own faction for members but don't care to use that to ask for help. You have a faction chat where you could ask faction for help.

Really, somebody evidently needs to learn to read. Let's look back at an exact quote from my last post to which that was your reply: "I did not think it was fair to have someone else repeatedly run Cube for me, then stand around in room 38 once they finally hit it for however long it might take for a GM to get me in there. So now, if you had actually READ this sentiment that I keep repeating for you, why do you keep accusing me of having so much help available? And there are maybe 3-4 people in my entire faction that run Cube because the others feel much the same as me. Before I thought this whole thing through I did actually ask one of them, only to find out (as I also previously stated) that those running Cube are now doing so when it is 5AM for me because it is free of PKers then, and they are not on my timezone.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

...and the workaround isn't the greatest solution because even if you could get someone willing to do that for you, asking someone not to play their character for a week or more (I think my ticket took like a month to resolve and it was fairly simple, though at least it ended favorable) while you wait for customer to get back to you is pretty rude. I mean even if they are willing to do it, I would rather not ask as it selfishly burdens someone else with both the PvE and PvP cost of doing it just because you don't like one tiny aspect. I'd rather my character get killed a million times then put my problem on someone else (a person behind that computer who just wants to play their game and their characters). I think for this to be a legitimate solution, the GMs should just have some noob character they put in there for the sole purpose of taking care of tickets. If they did that, so that you could reasonably get it done PvE I dont think there would be any reasonable resistance to the cube.

This is exactly what I am talking about. It would be ridiculous to expect someone to do that for me, and I will not ask anyone else. And for all of you that say I am lazy, quit making assumptions about people you don't know. I'll have you know that I have been trying Cube since my archer got the stupid quest since it is the only freaking way I can complete it. The best time I have found to run it is at night (coinciding with event times, takes people out of Cube perhaps) but there is one person in there that manages to get me multiple times almost every run. Guess what, a sin. Never a chance to force log and continue. And when I can't get through after almost two hours of that **** of course I quit. By then I am usually so upset that I quit the game as well because I no longer feel like playing.

On a PvE server, I should not have to deal with this. That is all I'm saying. I know 9/10 of you aren't so bothered by PK as I am so this is no issue to you, and you probably laugh that I get upset. I AM NOT YOU. You have no idea what other people might feel like so quit posting useless insults.

It is probably about time a mod closes this thread. It has just become one group of people insulting another over the way they feel, and that does nothing for anybody.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The latter post LilNai is a good point, I think it's an issue of competitiveness, not the forced PVP thing. I'm pretty sure even they understand the reasonableness behind trying to remove all PVP aspects of the cube for one quest. However, looking at some of the posts directed especially at players from PVP servers, it looks evident that it's an effort to avoid competing with others, the same way people QQ up a storm when getting KS'd during legions or the old wraith attacks or at the tideborn expansion when questing.. on PVE servers no less. The arguments and attitude look so eerily similar.

I think thats exactly it.... I don't want to compete with you.... I used to enjoy pvp... now its just blah and I wish I could migrate all my toons to a pve server... Now if someone attacks me I don't do anything, most of the time I just sit there and let it happen... Depends on who it is that does the attacking to as to what result I get


Result 1. they kill me and I respawn and go on my way

Result 2. they take to long to kill me so I turn around (depending on mood) either I fly away or go to safe zone or I turn around and hit back end up killing them

Result 3. they realize I am not fighting back and just stop give up and leave.

Result 4. realize I am not fighting back stop and pm me with dude wtf??? noob can't even blah blah blah blah

Anyone who knows me in game also knows I refuse 99% of all duels sent to me.. I don't care who it is and I don't care to know how I would do

frankieraye wrote: »

PK in room 1 is bannable because being able to PK in there is technically a glitch. Actually doing it is considered exploiting a glitch.



As for whether PK should be enabled in the Cube, it comes down to two questions: "Do the players like it?" and "Is it a mandatory part of the game?".

Some players hate the PvP within, and some actually enjoy it, so I'd say the answer to the first question is a wash. Then, as we know, the Cube is not a mandatory thing that players have to take part in. As it stands now, those who don't want to deal with it don't have to, and those who do get to enjoy the extra human element that exists inside the Cube.

Also, consider the nature of the Cube - It's an instance whose whole idea is based around mystery, random chance, and problem solving. In my opinion, having a PvP element within only amplifies these attributes.

but saying you can pk in there isnt that also harrestment if person in question gets killed while doing culti?If so why put culti in there in the first place becuz you basic make it mandotory and i know sins who stleath in 38 whne you come in you dead

frankieraye wrote: »

PK in room 1 is bannable because being able to PK in there is technically a glitch. Actually doing it is considered exploiting a glitch.

oh come the hell on, frankie. it's a "glitch" that has its very own, specific and detailed, definition in the map's zone files. THAT IS NOT A GLITCH.

i can think of a bunch of different reasons why that corner might be defined as PK-enabled, starting with "some CEO's nephew likes to RPK people there" and ranging all the way down to "some disgruntled developer snuck it in as a form of sabotage on the last day before they ragequit the company and has been laughing their butt off at it ever since" --- but i can read the game files as well as the next geek, and "it's an unintentional glitch" is one excuse i flat out refuse to swallow. think of something better to cover your employer's collective **** with than THAT.

frankieraye wrote: »

PK in room 1 is bannable because being able to PK in there is technically a glitch. Actually doing it is considered exploiting a glitch.

As for whether PK should be enabled in the Cube, it comes down to two questions: "Do the players like it?" and "Is it a mandatory part of the game?".

Thanks for the reply.

There isn't actually anything in the game that is "mandatory". You don't have to do cultivation. You don't have to do any quests. You don't have to get XP to level. You don't have to get level 11 skills. If you choose to play the game with no objective than nothing is required.

If for some reason you do choose to get a level 100 culti or farm your level 99 skills than yes cube is mandatory.

As for if players that like to kill people for sport, you have to remember we are talking about blue names on a PVE server. They should be free to proceed on their own without having to worry about being killed to serve as some other player's amusement. That's not what you sign up for when you choose a PVE server.

(again this doesnt apply to PK-specific rooms like 34)

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »

Since nothing will be done about it by the Wanmei devs,

There is no need to fix this on Wanmei... The asian players are to polite to kill random ppl that enter room 1 of the cube...

Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Conversely you could just run it, eventually get room 38, and be done with it. Running the cube does NOT guarantee you will get PKed...


I find it somewhat humorous that no one here has complained that RB is PK-enabled (I only recall one post on the forum a while ago). You only have one cube quest whereas you must run at least four separate delta instances before acquiring your Celestial fairy. Imagine if you want to run your wave 4 or 5 quest and someone gets their BH done, drops squad, and PKs you. Or maybe you DC, relog, and get one-shot by the zhens.

Also, I did the cube a THIRD time this morning just to keep seeing when I'll eventually die (since the posts in this thread seem to imply that it's practically a given). Still no campers and no getting PKed; just boredom on my part. Clearly the cube must be in a state of constant RPK on HT because I keep gathering that it is IMPOSSIBLE to run from all the posts I am reading.

Not anymore, so how about it Frankie can we get that ticket thing as the official fix of being forced to PK to finish culti.

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Good lord.. /facepalm

I don't think I've seen a whinier thread by such a few amount of posters yet.

If the ticket thing works out it will solve the problems of everyone, I don't see what the big deal is or why you so against a particular thread. :P

JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've seen the ticket thing work for a few people, and I've helped two get it done so far. If you were on HT yesterday I could have helped you as well, wife randomly suggested we should do cube, she wanted another cog of fate, so we both ran cube (I did normal, too lazy to do cog run) and I accidentally stumbled upon 38 again. I happened to use 12 DA's, once in 14 (no one was there as usual), and 8 more in 47 because I wasn't charmed. Wife got both bored rooms, Room 34, and PK room 57 or 58 (forget which). Still no PK's.

However, I don't think the ticket thing will stop whining about this. No solution does.

Well you can't please all of the people all of the time, but at least there would be an official and stickied solution for all camps. If someone still isn't happy, and to be honest the solution isn't perfect, at least it can be said that there was an attempt made to satisfy them. That the complaints weren't ignored and brushed to the side by "well some people really like killing you!" That's all that can really be asked for since actual content updates to anything are few and far between.

WidowDee - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I have to agree with you. I am on Heaven's Tear because it is a PVE server. I don't PK and I don't appreciate having someone do that to me just because they can. Too many sit in the cube just waiting for someone to come in. This gets costly and time consuming. If they want PK, they should go to a PVP server. Please, stop the PK on our PVE servers.

I do the cube several times a week and on several characters, and I have not been PK'd in probably a month (room 14 and I wasn't paying attention). So where are you getting PK'd at? And by whom? Since it's "too many" I'm sure you won't have any trouble coming up with this. However, I believe this is just a general statement that pretty much discredits itself.