Cube Should Not Be Pk Enabled!!!!
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QQmoar please b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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#10 has been proven wrong (by your own admission now, the impact is minuscule), and the others are just par-for-the-course with you. None is a valid, objectively provable reason for that kind of behavior. Of course, you know that and I know that. It's somewhat amusing to see how your "arguments" kind of degenerate into uninspired trolling as time goes on. :PKiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »1. Cause I can.
2. Cause I still can.
3. Cause I am bored.
4. Cause I don't like you.
5. Cause your armor isn't shinny enough.
6. Cause your armor is too shinny.
7. Cause you are standing in my spot.
8. Cause you are not standing in my spot.
9. Cause my squad-mate(s) asked me to.
10. Cause I want to reduce the number of pages generated.
No one here is arguing off of a sense of entitlement (except maybe Kiyoshi), so it's foolish to assume so. But if you're going to talk about entitlement, at least admit that it works both ways.Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »1) I am not insulting your intelligence. I am just explaining why there is no "entitlement" in an online game.
This is supposed to be an argument for PVP servers? None of it would be necessary on a PVE server with a modified Cube.Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »2) KOS is for your own good. And I do know people who hunt down others when they log on. Faction vs. Faction wars or PvP wars erupt all the time in SP and such. And if they are r9, then you just have to deal with it and move on. Or better yet, get r9 yourself. Oh wait, you are content with you TT99 gear because PvE is so easy in this game.
Yes, and that's all done by popular consensus. Or, at least, systems that are designed to emulate popular consensus. Are those systems perfect? Hell no. But they're a lot better than taking the "law" into your own hands, because objectivity is near impossible to achieve as an individual (even less so when said individual is emotionally motivated, e.g. by a desire for "retribution").Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »3) Eye for an Eye is acceptable, and is the only thing that has ever really worked. Even today's system is some form of retributive punishment. You steal from someone, you get thrown in jail and your time is "stolen". Even if it is more refined and acceptable, in the real world you can only enforce rules with retribution of some sort.
My mistake in adding the term "squad leader." What I meant to convey there is that, leader or not, the drop-and-PK model is not an effective way to accomplish anything at all (unless you count "flimsy validation of my subjective opinion" as an accomplishment).Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »4) If it is a party leader, odds are you aren't going to finish the instance anyway, so drop squad, pk him, and tele out before anyone realizes what happened.
You have it backwards again. PVP is always an option on a PVE server. The only difference is innocent people aren't forced (to use your word) to bear hardship caused by someone else's whims.Sharuum - Lost City wrote:I am sure there are nice people out of faction too, but I don't feel that anybody should be forced to play nice. Hence, why I play on a PvP server.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yes, I'm still a stubborn holdout in favor of the old game. Haters gonna hate. ;]
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Can't you guys just agree to disagree? 22 pages of a thread that the OP hasn't been in for 20 of. The OP was talking about changing Cube. Cube isn't going to be changed.
Want it changed? Wanmei PW-CN's website.
I don't know why this thread wasn't moved to the suggestion box after page two. Yes guys, Kiyoshi is a hypocritical ***** that people would KoS. And? The end.0 -
Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »#10 has been proven wrong (by your own admission now, the impact is minuscule), and the others are just par-for-the-course with you. None is a valid, objectively provable reason for that kind of behavior. Of course, you know that and I know that. It's somewhat amusing to see how your "arguments" kind of degenerate into uninspired trolling as time goes on. :P
No one here is arguing off of a sense of entitlement (except maybe Kiyoshi), so it's foolish to assume so. But if you're going to talk about entitlement, at least admit that it works both ways.
This is supposed to be an argument for PVP servers? None of it would be necessary on a PVE server with a modified Cube.
Yes, and that's all done by popular consensus. Or, at least, systems that are designed to emulate popular consensus. Are those systems perfect? Hell no. But they're a lot better than taking the "law" into your own hands, because objectivity is near impossible to achieve as an individual (even less so when said individual is emotionally motivated, e.g. by a desire for "retribution").
My mistake in adding the term "squad leader." What I meant to convey there is that, leader or not, the drop-and-PK model is not an effective way to accomplish anything at all (unless you count "flimsy validation of my subjective opinion" as an accomplishment).
You have it backwards again. PVP is always an option on a PVE server. The only difference is innocent people aren't forced (to use your word) to bear hardship caused by someone else's whims.
I understand that this is a tangent, but I am pointing out that on PvP servers, you have a level of enforcement that PvE do not. Of course that is not perfect either, but besides submitting tickets to a GM, there is no way to enforce anything on a PvE server.0 -
Threads like these are created for a reason, you know. PWE is, effectively the regulatory authority of our game. Now we can debate how useful that is, or how responsive to our demands they are until there's no point left to it (as Tremblewith, unfortunately, seems to still be doing). And believe me when I say I have my own grievances about that, just like anyone. But the fact is that they are still the people we string up when something goes wrong or is insufficient, and they are still beholden to us to some extent.Sharuum - Lost City wrote:I understand that this is a tangent, but I am pointing out that on PvP servers, you have a level of enforcement that PvE do not. Of course that is not perfect either, but besides submitting tickets to a GM, there is no way to enforce anything on a PvE server.
tl;dr, If I wanted to play on a server with "self-enforcement" and no regulatory authority to string up, I'd play on a pserver. >_>
Dude. o.O What's it to you?Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »Can't you guys just agree to disagree? 22 pages of a thread that the OP hasn't been in for 20 of. The OP was talking about changing Cube. Cube isn't going to be changed.
Want it changed? Wanmei PW-CN's website.
I don't know why this thread wasn't moved to the suggestion box after page two. Yes guys, Kiyoshi is a hypocritical ***** that people would KoS. And? The end.
I mean, you've made a good half-dozen posts now about how you think this thread is pointless. We get it. We're not required to agree with you. Why should I have to explain this to someone who's been around as long as you have? >_>[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »I guess I just can't understand why anyone would put real money into a server with no real goal. PvE in this game is such a joke nowadays. Why would anybody waste their time on that with no PvP goal in mind.
why do you assume PvP is a "goal"? it isn't to me. and the game not having any intrinsic "goal" shouldn't be a surprise either; it's an MMO --- they're not designed to ever be completed by achieving any "goal", because then the paying user would quit. MMOs are designed to get us hooked and keep us paying, indefinitely.
now, me, i have a personal goal with my gameplay --- seeing all the game's content --- but that's not something i got as part of the game, it's a decision i've made for myself. and i have a sneaking suspicion that if and when i achieve it, i'll still stick around for the friends i've made in game --- turning the game client into a glorified IM program, eventually. okay, that last bit might be inherent in the game; social interaction IS one way MMOs use to get people hooked.
here's the key lesson: your idea of PKing as a "goal" for the game is as martian to me as my pure-PvE enjoyment might be to you. don't try to force me to play the game your way, and i won't try to force you to play it mine.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
I get my gear not for pvp, but just so I can say I did it. Getting the stuff I want not by cash shopping or by cat shopping, but by doing it all the hard way is what I like to do. Exploring everything in the game and doing things the hard way is what I find fun in mmos. ( do pvp when its actually balanced, I was in TWs every week for over a year here in PWI before packs)
I have never once been pked in the cube I admit. When it comes to the pk only rooms if someone else shows up (which is almost never) neither one of us is willing to attack the other. I'm not mean enough to **** someone else up and they end up being lower level or something so they couldn't beat me anyway. Last time that happened I killed myself so they could pass.Main characters
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Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »Dude. o.O What's it to you?
I mean, you've made a good half-dozen posts now about how you think this thread is pointless. We get it. We're not required to agree with you. Why should I have to explain this to someone who's been around as long as you have? >_>
At this point the thread should be locked since it's you, kiyoshi, and a few others bashing eachother over something that wasn't even the intended topic of the OP. You don't have to agree w/ me, but the thread is indeed pointless. This thread could easily go to 150+ pages of ranting and raving about whether PK in the Cube serves a purpose, should be done, etc.
In the end, thread should be closed.0 -
Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »At this point the thread should be locked since it's you, kiyoshi, and a few others bashing eachother over something that wasn't even the intended topic of the OP. You don't have to agree w/ me, but the thread is indeed pointless. This thread could easily go to 150+ pages of ranting and raving about whether PK in the Cube serves a purpose, should be done, etc.
In the end, thread should be closed.
Your posts aren't in any way related to the "intended topic of the OP" either, yet you keep making them every other page.
I also really doubt the thread will be closed, just because you say so, nor do I think we will stop posting in it, just because you think it's pointless, so in this sense your posts are just as useless as you claim the rest of the thread is.0 -
KareszPsych - Heavens Tear wrote: »Your posts aren't in any way related to the "intended topic of the OP" either, yet you keep making them every other page.
I also really doubt the thread will be closed, just because you say so, nor do I think we will stop posting in it, just because you think it's pointless, so in this sense your posts are just as useless as you claim the rest of the thread is.
Ya got me there. However, if I hadn't made these "pointless" posts, how could I have told you all that this thread is "pointless", and therefor should either be moved to the suggestion box, or be closed?
Edit: Lol @ page 23.0 -
Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »#10 has been proven wrong (by your own admission now, the impact is minuscule), and the others are just par-for-the-course with you.
Just cause my own action is minuscule in the grand scheme of thing... it means that i shouldn't do it. wow... guess all those people who tells you that every vote counts is dead wrong... after all... what would your messily ONE vote do when there is millions of others. and i guess my thousands of dollar donation to... lets see... whats the most recent disaster i donated to. oh yea... donated roughly 1k to japan earthquake. probably shouldn't have done that... since whats 1k when they need billions.
i would really like my 5k+ donations from my last year's tax statement back. after all... i can't even account for one hundredth of one percent in the grand scheme of things. better off not do it at all.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »At this point the thread should be locked since it's you, kiyoshi, and a few others bashing eachother over something that wasn't even the intended topic of the OP. You don't have to agree w/ me, but the thread is indeed pointless. This thread could easily go to 150+ pages of ranting and raving about whether PK in the Cube serves a purpose, should be done, etc.
In the end, thread should be closed.
of course its pointless. i won't stop killing them in cube or anywhere else of my choosing. and they won't stop complaining about people like me.1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.
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^^ ThisKiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just cause my own action is minuscule in the grand scheme of thing... it means that i shouldn't do it. wow... guess all those people who tells you that every vote counts is dead wrong... after all... what would your messily ONE vote do when there is millions of others. and i guess my thousands of dollar donation to... lets see... whats the most recent disaster i donated to. oh yea... donated roughly 1k to japan earthquake. probably shouldn't have done that... since whats 1k when they need billions.
i would really like my 5k+ donations from my last year's tax statement back. after all... i can't even account for one hundredth of one percent in the grand scheme of things. better off not do it at all.0 -
When I was leaving on vacation for 1 week you were lv. 103. How come you could get from lv. 103 to lv. 105 in a week?Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »It is pretty random which rooms they decided to make forced-PVP enabled.
Although it might have just been an accident like they did with room 1.
On PVE servers rooms 14/34 and maybe 11/32 should stay forced-pvp (since that is the specific purpose of those rooms) but you shouldn't be able to kill blue names outside of those.
Ideally 11,14,32, and 34 would be forced pvp for all while white / red names could PK eachother in all other rooms. I think it is a limitation of the game that you can mix and match forced-pvp with standard pvp in the same map.
The cube at its core is a PVE instance since it is about gaining XP, level 99 skills, cultivation quests, and farming gear.
Ohh wait FC glitch right?b:chuckle
This is unbelievable how bad is this game managed. No glitch fixing for years. Allowing people cheat. BIG FAIL!!![SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ya got me there. However, if I hadn't made these "pointless" posts, how could I have told you all that this thread is "pointless", and therefor should either be moved to the suggestion box, or be closed?
Edit: Lol @ page 23.
Seeing how the only people who can close or move threads are more than likely capable of making a decision on their own, without needing you to point this out every other page, there really wasn't much need for you to post them at all.
Just saying if you really think this thread is pointless, then you don't have to read it and post in it. I'm sure the people posting in this thread will get by just fine without your posts. b:surrender0 -
KareszPsych - Heavens Tear wrote: »Seeing how the only people who can close or move threads are more than likely capable of making a decision on their own, without needing you to point this out every other page, there really wasn't much need for you to post them at all.
Just saying if you really think this thread is pointless, then you don't have to read it and post in it. I'm sure the people posting in this thread will get by just fine without your posts. b:surrender
I agree, that people could get along just fine w/ out me posting. However, I can make the posts, just like anyone else can. Thus, I will continue saying this thread is pointless.0 -
Sharuum - Lost City wrote: »1) I am not insulting your intelligence. I am just explaining why there is no "entitlement" in an online game.
You were the first person to bring in the word entitlement and then spent a whole time ranting about how their is no entitlement in an online game. Oh, and by the way there is a sense in that they have to give you what is advertized. Of course right after you buy the product they could shut down the whole server, or introduce something better no problem. But while it running if they advertize a PvE server and say you won't be forced to PVP, then they should actually you know not force you to PVP. If you want to finish your character so to speak, as in actually complete the storyline of the game you have to PvP. So it not truly giving you what they advertized; which is a legitmate reason for complaing even if you prefer PvP.
PvP makes it more of a complete game. Learn to play around it, or take advantage of it. It isn't like 90% of the useful game is instanced anyway, where you enter with friends and can PvE to your heart's content.
That's your personal opinon, there are plenty of people who have fun playing PvE. In fact SO many people have fun playing it that their money and subscribers speak with their checkbook and the majority of the players want PvE. Your opinon is in the minority, or at least that is what market trends seem to dictate considering the last three servers they opened were all PvE. I mean Archosaur, Lothranis and Momaganon are the three newest ones aren't they?
Look, your on a PvP server so I guess you have harder time understanding why someone wouldn't want to pvp eventually anyway. That's all well and good. But there are plenty of people who don't feel the same way. There are plenty of people who enjoy PvE content. Who use guilds for socialization and getting instances done instead of giant retribution machines. PWI in their ToS says that one persons gameplay shouldn't ruin another persons but the only reason to PK in the cube is to grief. That doesn't really have a place on a pve server.
@Kiyoshi
Let's see your 1000 dollars for earthquake relief is enough money to feed a family. An election can be decided by a single vote. A child could be fed with your minuscule tax contribution. The PoF market is not affected at all by you PKing one person. Your examples are not comparable. Your real reasons came out, which is you do it because you can. That is the real reason. You enjoy upsettign other people in game which is what you enjoy unfavorable repuation so much. Why not just accept that? What's with all this pointless and easily demonstratable as false justification of it? Unless you realize that you're in fact wrong, and feel the need to justify your other reasons to yourself for whatever weird reason. It's a pointless reason. You enjoy pointlessly killing others. That's all welll and good. You should probalby be on a PvP server, why you are not is beyond me.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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This.VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »Your real reasons came out, which is you do it because you can. That is the real reason. You enjoy upsettign other people in game which is what you enjoy unfavorable repuation so much.
Of course, he's explicitly said as much, multiple times, in this thread alone. So why would any person try to put up flimsy justifications of what can't be justified? My guess is, because Kiyoshi knows that absolutely no one would support an opinion based around "I oppose changing the system because the current one allows me to act like the blatant, unapolagetic a-hole that I fully admit to being."
So he tries to put up an argument for an observable, objectively justifiable benefit - so that maybe someone else could support it. But even if it was objectively a benefit to hike PoF prices (which it never will be), it's already been proven wrong and he's already abandoned it once or twice before trying to revive it again. This time, it appears to be along the lines of comparing paying taxes and supporting disaster relief efforts to what he does in the cube. o.O
Idk, maybe it's just because I'm not PK-minded, but I like to think I know a losing battle when I see one. >_>
Yes, but one assumes that you hope to achieve something with your posts (it being assumed that no human being does anything without reason o.O). Seeing as no one who's made a significant post in this thread agrees with you, and it would've been locked already if the mods thought it crossed a line, what do you hope to achieve?Tremblewith wrote:I agree, that people could get along just fine w/ out me posting. However, I can make the posts, just like anyone else can. Thus, I will continue saying this thread is pointless.
I mean, sure, a couple other people thought this thread was pointless too. You know what they did? They made some generic one-line "QQ moar" post and left. Or better yet, they didn't post at all. o.O[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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It is indeed laughable when people try to justify their actions with some noble cause. Lets just call a spade, a spade. If you're man enough to grief someone, don't try to weasel your way around.
BTW, no offense but I wouldn't call PKing in PWI, in any shape and form, PVP simply because gear gives an almost insurmountable advantage to the one who has it. Traditionally this is called time > skill, or in PWI sense, CS > skill.
If you want real PVP try games like Guildwars. Certain FPSs too for that matter. Getting high end gear and one shotting some poor sap half your level isn't PVP. It's called mice bashing. I'm female and have played MMOs for over a decade. When I do kill someone or go on a rampage in past games I won't give the sort of excuses I'm seeing here, grow a pair guys!0 -
Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yes, but one assumes that you hope to achieve something with your posts (it being assumed that no human being does anything without reason o.O). Seeing as no one who's made a significant post in this thread agrees with you, and it would've been locked already if the mods thought it crossed a line, what do you hope to achieve?
I mean, sure, a couple other people thought this thread was pointless too. You know what they did? They made some generic one-line "QQ moar" post and left. Or better yet, they didn't post at all. o.O
I don't hope to "achieve" anything, as I've already achieved it. Doubt that makes any sense to someone that doesn't understand the goal I had, but meh.0 -
Sitting in a PK room and shooting players in the back as they port in takes no skill at all.
Anyone who does that is a griefer, plainly and simply. No lame and unjustifiable excuses will ever change that.
I chose a PvE server because I don't do PvP, it's that simple.
Having mandatory PvP in cube means I can't go in there at all, because I know some griefer will be itching to spoil my fun.
So no QQ from me, I just won't do cube. Have fun griefer, while you wait b:chuckle0 -
QFT since it was the last post on the last page.Kittsuko - Sanctuary wrote: »It is indeed laughable when people try to justify their actions with some noble cause. Lets just call a spade, a spade. If you're man enough to grief someone, don't try to weasel your way around.
BTW, no offense but I wouldn't call PKing in PWI, in any shape and form, PVP simply because gear gives an almost insurmountable advantage to the one who has it. Traditionally this is called time > skill, or in PWI sense, CS > skill.
If you want real PVP try games like Guildwars. Certain FPSs too for that matter. Getting high end gear and one shotting some poor sap half your level isn't PVP. It's called mice bashing. I'm female and have played MMOs for over a decade. When I do kill someone or go on a rampage in past games I won't give the sort of excuses I'm seeing here, grow a pair guys!
@Earthgirl, that's exactly what we're trying to prevent with this though.
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Earthgirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »Sitting in a PK room and shooting players in the back as they port in takes no skill at all.
Anyone who does that is a griefer, plainly and simply. No lame and unjustifiable excuses will ever change that.
I chose a PvE server because I don't do PvP, it's that simple.
Having mandatory PvP in cube means I can't go in there at all, because I know some griefer will be itching to spoil my fun.
So no QQ from me, I just won't do cube. Have fun griefer, while you wait b:chuckle
why not do it? you cant drop items on death in cube, and you dont lose any exp from dying. The worst thing that can happen is you go back to the first room.
nobody is gonna camp cube all day, because its too boring, and not a whole heap of people do it. I used to sit in room 14 for 20 minutes and not see anybody plenty of times.
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Earthgirl - Dreamweaver wrote: »Having mandatory PvP in cube means I can't go in there at all, because I know some griefer will be itching to spoil my fun.
Honestly since I started cube, I have only ever had two people PK me, and that happened in the mandatory PK rooms...Proving that not only archers do math since 2009. b:victory
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Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »Let's keep this thread alive to see how many times Tremblewith will complain. >.>
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I'm more lol'ing at people with hideous complaints like "a-ha! see! ur doing it because u can! glitch! exploit! griefing! terrorism! u like seeing people complain ur going to hell!11".Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »Let's keep this thread alive to see how many times Tremblewith will complain. >.>
I don't think people that take this instance so seriously (Kiyoshi and his cult following of anti-bra burners) should be given much credence on whether or not pk should or should not be enabled in the cube.0 -
SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »why not do it? you cant drop items on death in cube, and you dont lose any exp from dying. The worst thing that can happen is you go back to the first room.
i don't lose anything from playing checkers, either, apart from some of my time. i just don't want to play that game, and i don't want anybody ambushing me with a checkers board forcing me to play it while i'm in the middle of doing something else.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0 -
Thankfully a level 72 is nowhere near doing Room 38 chrono, so you're certainly safe from PWI holding a gun to your head and throwing you into cube to be someone's kill count +1.LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »i don't lose anything from playing checkers, either, apart from some of my time. i just don't want to play that game, and i don't want anybody ambushing me with a checkers board forcing me to play it while i'm in the middle of doing something else.0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »Thankfully a level 72 is nowhere near doing Room 38 chrono, so you're certainly safe from PWI holding a gun to your head and throwing you into cube to be someone's kill count +1.
oh goody, i don't HAVE TO go into that particular part of the video game i have chosen to play. what if i WANT to?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Heaven's Tear alts: KenLubin, Sou_Hon, JudyCaraco --- level 5x chars.0
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