Is this game better before or after the implement of tideborns?

TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »

What you have , which is normal for an assassin type class while comparing to others so you won't complain about the " ARCHERS ISH RANGE AND WE ISN'T !" thing and note I'll say what help's the compensate for being melees over ranged :

For being melee users bms got higher defenses & hp , speed skills ,leaps & target controll through stunlocks ;

For being melee users sins got self non-stat reliant evasion buffs , speed skills that are a bit weaker , 2 teleports that are better than leaps , target control as well , much higher skill dmg as well as leaps + stealth .

Also worth adding is that the point of ranged-attack is to be able to get a couple hits in on your opponent before your opponent can even touch you and/or to keep them from touching you.

Well, stealth actually goes a step further than range in that regard. Short ranged is basic attack with no such benefit. Long range is a special attack with an advantage against short range. Stealth is even more specialized and has an advantage against BOTH. After all, it doesn't matter how far away you are from a long ranged target, if the target doesn't even know you're there and can't attack you.

Arkaminus - Harshlands wrote: »

everyone keeps saying that sins ruined the game ..yeah that was right in like the first month of their release, now days i see sins getting pwned from all the types of classes, so now they r basically just another class

I agree they can be beat. Hell, I've said that Barbs have real issues with Psys, but honestly sometimes I meet a barb and just think "Why the F*** do you have so much HP," get tired of shooting him and kinda wanna just let him kill me. They may be sitting ducks for a good 10-12 seconds, but wow sometimes they amaze me at how well they survive it.

I think that's a good sign that Perfect World IS actually balanced. I mean honestly, every class can kill every class. Compared to other MMO's I've played and seen, PW is incredibly well planned and pretty damn balanced.

Still, I also think it's good that the community remains critical of the imbalances that do exist. The last MMO I played, people who complained were told to shutup. Well in my opinion, it's the people who complain who drive the game to improve; otherwise GMs and Devs would just sit on their butts since everyone is satisfied.


So of course things aren't TRULY imbalanced compared to what we would traditionally refer to as imbalance. However, it is still clear that Sins have more power than other classes, and by just how much is nothing to sneeze at.



1) Remove the ability to buff while stealthed.
2) Kill the majority of those chi bonuses.
3) Maybe let some AOEs such as Aqua Cannon, Slam, Dragon's Breath (basically the ones where the caster is the center mark of the AOE) be castable WITHOUT a target. This would allow several classes to use those AOEs the moment the Sin goes into stealth, giving them the chance to hit it.


Those simple three steps and things will be perfectly balanced in regards to assassins, imo.

And thus mark's the end of thread ... ( at least the fun part in it ) was fun while it lasted , at least for me :P

Before. And I mean, like, WAY before. Like within 4-5 months of the LC and HT being opened.

The appeal of PW to me was the sense of the unknown. Not knowing what to expect from the next FB, trying to find efficient ways to run TT, figuring out what the **** FF is for; etc etc. Now it's just all about who can spend more money for gear and level from 1 to 100 in 3 days.

PW just seems to have lost its appeal.

Born_Free - Harshlands wrote: »

Double post, I don't care.


WHAT?! b:shocked God damnit, now we're gonna have invisible BARBS to worry about....

And just when I thought things couldn't get ANY worse....

If that's how if works, picture invisible venos with invisible nixes. b:shocked

Server will be filled with ninja o.oa
well good thing it's hard to make and judging from the requirement, it would need a lvl8 apoth skills >.>

like any of you -pointing fingers- do use detection pots in pk /:)

Borsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm wondering if some people here can even think of a more plausible outcome.

I mean, that skill increases your stealth level does it not? But it's worthless without being in stealth already -- i.e you still need the stealth skill to use it. So it would only make assassins' stealth more OP by making them invisible even to awareness pots.

Yeah that's true, I mean every char has stealth level equal to your level yet you don't see everyone higher level than you invisible do you?

But don't worry they'll add in the boutique an item to make your char invisible costing 5 gold which lasts as long as your stealth works. Lol

Sint - Harshlands wrote: »

the sugestion was stupid enough, tyvm asheera

The boutique potion?

I was sarcastic :P


About your question yes mostly on that, well more correctly is the first who stuns most of the time wins (provided similar gear and level)

This doesn't necessarily mean the one who is invisible to the other, but 95% of the time yes it's that.

Legend - Raging Tide wrote: »

The only thing OP about Assassins is the ability to demon/sage spark in stealth and thats about it. Everything else is QQ from idiots who don't know how to PK.

would i be too immature if i said something like...

Look! An oracle noob from a PvE sever.

Sint - Harshlands wrote: »

would i be too immature if i said something like...

Look! An oracle noob from a PvE sever.

lol, no. no you wouldn't. (was kinda thinking same thing)