reasons why you want or dont want sins in ur squad

Risingson - Lost City wrote: »

oh great, another Tideborn QQ thread.

Duh, b:beatup isn't you a tideborn yourself ? he trying to make people know what are your race capable to do in squad and how their cover the weakness, so people won't think them as totally useless in squad. b:tired

Btw, the old thread link so people can read it.

Assassins can't tank, heal, crowd control, or lure. They're not "needed" in a squad because there's a lot of already existing DDs already and they don't have primary support skills. I really don't mind if an Assassin comes into my squad, just that they're another DD and since they're so upclose to the target if they get aggro they can die easely.

well... if ppl know what u can do, they will never reject you ... i can tank every boss in BH 59 ... can help cleric if takes agro healing tank ... i dunno why would any1 reject Sin in squad... from my point of view its silly ... i think ppl just need time to adapt to new classes cheers b:cute

Somebody - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm not trying to make a QQ thread here.
I'm just merely trying to understand the reason behind people not to invite sins or psy's doesn't matter much.

since a good sin will not steal aggro, will slow the boss by 50% at all times, will keep squishies safe from sudden death in FB/BH, has AOE amp dmg, hard hitting AOE dmg skill (bout same as archers deadly shot so i heard), have HP regen for barb/bm (not much but it helps)

This is the first time I've actually seen someone spell out what a 'sin can do.

I run a barb. I didn't drop my barb and roll a new char when tideborn came out, because I'm happy with my char. I have no idea what 'sins can do, nor have any that I have met ever *told* me what they can do. They just show up, and do what I expect everyone in the squad to do - kill the mobs/boss, and don't get the rest of us killed.

I have never refused either of the new classes a place in a squad, assuming the basics are covered (tank, healer, DD, lure). As long as that's done, you can bring your grandmother if you want.

I assume the others in my squad know what to do, unless proven otherwise. When someone FAILs, I assign that fail to the DERP behind the keyboard, not the char on the screen.

If they refuse to let you into their squads, they're FAIL already, and you don't want to associate with 'em.

RedMenace

AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »

Why would I not squad an assassin....hmmm.......cause they're ugly.

no1 can tell me that a barb looks better than Sin ... you look like fat animal ... u should be ashamed to tell something like that... may God have mercy on your soul ... b:kiss b:bye joking :P

I have yet to come across a good looking sin.

Edit:
@Grim-We're extra hairy. You're hairless. I vote for us. b:avoid

I love having a sin in my Frost party

Their aoe-ulti amps all the mobs, everything dies so fast and also blood paint is amazing b:victory. The sins 2 aoe skills is often enough, the mobs are dead after that.

I like to party psychics to, the reflect buff and their dmg is really good but but they tends to take a lot of agro, more than they should actually. Ive seen 8X psys taking all agro from 95+ archers in frost, debating if their aoes has some sort of draw agro hidden b:shocked.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Reasons to squad an assassin:
Bloodpaint
Checking where bosses (Fushma, Rankar) and roamers are in '51
Checking which doors are open in '79

Reasons not to squad an assassin:
The individual assassin is an **** who is obsessed with showing off his tricks/proving how useful he can be. I do NOT want one to pull multiple reverexes in '39, I do NOT want one to pull that entire group of hexocs at the corner east of Hu's room so we can sneak past... and then have enemies on both sides of us. I'm sure others have other stupid assassin stories to share.

lol sorry but she has a point there...b:cold

If the cleric takes agro from the tank? I guess you mean if the cleric heals too quick, but a simple flesh ream from the barb can take agro easy anyway.

The fact that you are LA means you can't tank the phys like a bm/barb. An LA archer has the distance, so s/he is in the aoe heals if there is a magic AoE with the cleric.

Wizards can have more Pdef easy, we have backup heals. The veno can lure just as much. We have high Damage, not so high DPS, but thats just agro stealing (Not that I have problem stealing agro anyway)

Venos can lure and have amp damage.

Honestly, I don't see why you would want to change something that works so well already. We get along without bloodpaint, slowing the boss etc. A good Rainbow squad can work well without these.

Thats why people don't feel the need to have you in squad.

But in saying all that, I don't see why people can't adapt. I'd happily have my friends, who play TB to be in a squad with me.
Thing is, I don't know skills of either of the TB, so It's a little more difficult to work with them for now.

I have nothing against the TB as long as they can work with the rest of the squad and not do stupid stuff.

Somebody - Raging Tide wrote: »

i know i posted this in sin section already, but since not everybody looks there, I'm still looking for an answer from more people.

Ok, so I'm wondering after being denied for to many squads.
what's your reason to either squad a sin or not??
And don't start about "all those fail sins" but look at the good ones. why would u squad them or why would you leave them behind.

discuss

1. Boss has short range aoe... so I would rather have ranged DDs.
2. Boss has 20m aoe sleep... so I would rather have ranged DDs.

well, for tts where the boss has a physical aoe, im seeing very often sins sitting in the back leeching. why? cause they die

sins that dont sit at the back are wasting the cleric's mp in rezes.

when they steal agro, the shout at clerics for not healing them.

aoe= dead sin.